Sunday, March 31, 2019

Cognitive Dissonance and the loss of objective reasoning

Mueller report findings upend partisan views of probe, poll finds
Among Democrats, who long expressed faith in Mueller during the inquiry, 53 percent now say they are disappointed with its conclusions. And while most still approve of Mueller’s efforts, more than 6 in 10 Democrats do not accept his finding on whether Trump conspired with Russia.

Herein lies the main fact here. The partisanship at this point is divided among accepting reality and rejecting reality. This tells us exactly how married Democrats have been to the concept that Trump "colluded" with Russia and how they will continue to believe (with or without any factual evidence to back it up). Make no mistake, this is still entirely a lack of acceptance of the 2016 election.

But it exposes the deeper issue with our media, bias, and an increasingly strange viewpoint that facts are no longer objective. In what seems to be a very strange set of circumstances (which I can only hope is temporary) - our society is moving into the concept that all things factual being viewed subjectively (and allowing personal feelings to count) is something that is "normal" and "accepted" and somehow actually "relevant".

There is a fine line between allowing someone who is biologically one sex to "identify" as the opposite sex, and allowing someone to not accept other types of facts, based on the idea that those facts make them uncomfortable. We now find certain statistical information to be "hateful" or worse,  because it points out something that people don't want to accept.

It's as if we now have a dual means of verifying whether something is factual or true. It seems as if it not only has to be proven factually, but it also has to to pass a political correctness test before it can be seen as a fact. A certain subset of Americans might (for example) commit more capital crimes than other subsets. But that will not be accepted by many as a fact, as long as they deem that statistic to be somehow unfair or demeaning for that subset.

It's not even whether or not we allow that statistic to be reported. We (as a society) are quite literally at a place where people will simply not believe something to be true, if they don't want it to be true. So in essence, what this poll is saying isn't that 6 in 10 Democrats don't believe the report, it's that they don't "want" to believe it, and feel it is their right to believe what they want. Taking it one step further, these same people are upset that such a thing was even "allowed" to be reported, because of the information in the statement actually upset them.

To be clear, there is quite literally zero evidence that what they heard from the report is untrue (zero evidence), but they didn't want to hear it anyways. Their need to reject it is so blatant that not only will they "not" believe it, but they will do everything in their power to undermine the factual statements being made.

Now this is both a millennial thing and a liberal thing. More and more we see the liberal millennials such as Ocasio-Cortez purposely clouding up the differences between something that is desired and something that is possible. We cannot (for example) find nearly 100 trillion dollars to pay for the "Green New Deal".  But somehow the fact that it cannot be paid for, is simply lost on those who support it.  Paying for it, is quite literally not something they worry about. What they worry about is finding something rhetorical that sounds good, like "we cannot afford not to do it" as an argument.

Obviously rhetoric that plays to emotions is not an argument that will garner us 100 trillion dollars or change the fact that Trump did not collude with Putin in 2016.

We, as a country, are heading down a strange and dangerous path of cognitive dissonance, bias confirmation, and a wishful reality. Reality and facts cannot be not subjected to "polling". They are rooted in the basic concept of our existence. The further and further we, as a society, move away from objective facts and accepting the truth, the more dangerous things become.

50 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump New Name Is Wrinkle Vagina Neck.

We, as a country, are heading down a strange and dangerous path of cognitive dissonance, bias confirmation, and a wishful reality.

It's the result of the President and his pathological supporters who live in an alternate universe, disconnected from reality.

People like you are the reason that dictatorships rise from a democracy.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Climate change is a socialistic belief in your mind.

Pathological lying behavior is acceptable behavior!

C.H. Truth said...

Climate change is a socialistic belief in your mind.

Good example.

Strip away the emotional arguments regarding climate changes and the underlying facts change faster than Seattle weather.

In fact, the fact that you refer to it now as "Climate Change" rather than "Global Warming" is all the proof we need to show that the issue is not "objective" but rather subjective to the point where a complete change in the underlying facts (that our planet has a changing climate rather than our planet is warming out of control) does not change the underlying emotional response...

Even though it objectively should make society reevaluate, society doesn't want to. It's married to the original concept.

Anonymous said...

Even though it objectively should make society reevaluate, society doesn't want to. It's married to the original concept.


and like most things, follow the money. from busts like solyndra to the grant $$$ cascading from government, when there's big $$$ involved, and so much of it "free" $$$ from uncle sugar, the fraud will be perpetuated for as long as it's profitable.

and if we could harness the power of the hypocrisy surrounding it, we could fuel the planet with the energy of a thousand suns.


Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Trump New Name Is Wrinkle Vagina Neck.



and since mail order bounced your ass out, that's the only vag you'll get to look at anymore, so enjoy it while you can alky.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

"Trump Cuts U.S. Aid To 3 Mexican Countries" the chyron read. It went viral almost immediately. Now Fox News is apologizing.

Its a deep state conspiracy!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

our planet has a changing climate rather than our planet is warming out of control

Is incoherent bullshit

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

95% of the scientists say that global warming is mostly man caused.

The further and further we, as a society, move away from objective facts and accepting the truth, the more dangerous things become.

You are a prime example.

anonymous said...

Lil Scotty makes the most ludicrous claim regarding science with...
Strip away the emotional arguments regarding climate changes and the underlying facts change faster than Seattle weather.

Please numb nutz....please provide examples of changed underlying facts other than you being a dumb fucking idiot that makes shit up!!!!!!!

BTW Asshole...Global warming and climate change are interchangeable terms....deal with it jag off....second dumb ass claim in one post that you cannot defend with other than your bullshit opinion...

C.H. Truth said...

Global warming and climate change are interchangeable terms

Funny...

The fact that you actually believe that, proves my point!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sen. Bernie Sanders has vowed to cut prescription drug prices in half if he is elected president in 2020, calling it "a national health emergency" that many Americans cannot afford the medications prescribed by their doctors.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Global warming is a symptom of global change.

You failed English and science classes.

I was a straight A student on them.

caliphate4vr said...

Arkansas House Passes Bill Legalizing Machine Guns

I hear a pederasts head exploding

C.H. Truth said...

Sen. Bernie Sanders has vowed to cut prescription drug prices in half

All that's missing is an actual plan to do so that can actually possibly succeed!

James said...

Ch was once reasonable on climate change. But now he is a Trumpista.

Ch was once reasonable on gay rights. But now he is a Trumpista.

Ch was once reasonable on the economy. But now he is a
Trumpista.

Ch was once reasonable on trade. But now he is a Trumpista.

Ch was once reasonable on birth control and abortion. But now he is a Trumpista.

Ch was once reasonable on Russia. But now he is a Trumpista.

Ch was once reasonable on Trump. But now he is a Trumpista.

And that is but a small portion of the list which just goes on and on and on and on and...

James said...

Trump’s new health care push will backfire.
--Taegan Goddard

James said...


White House Claims to Be Working on Health Plan
--and also That There is a Tooth Fairy

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway maintained on Fox News that Republicans are “working on a plan” for replacing the Affordable Care Act, days after President Trump surprised members on both sides of the aisle when he declared that the Republican Party “will soon be known as the party of health care,” the Washington Post reports.

Said Conway: “There is a plan. We’ve been working on a plan for a long time. And we hope that Congress would come along.”

Host Chris Wallace responded:
“Right, nine years, but you’ve never actually come up with a whole plan.”

Commonsense said...

Trump’s new health care push will backfire.
--Taegan Goddard


Now I know Trump will succeed.

James said...

USA Today: “White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that he could guarantee that Americans would not lose their health care insurance coverage if the Affordable Care Act ends up being struck down in its most recent court challenge.”
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And also that the Tooth Fairy will still come.

Commonsense said...

Host Chris Wallace responded:
“Right, nine years, but you’ve never actually come up with a whole plan.”


Too bad Chris Wallace isn't as tough on Nancy Pelosi.
Oh, that's right Nancy Pelosi doesn't do Fox.

James said...

Trump will succeed?

Most Americans ‘Uncomfortable’ with Trump Re-Election

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds half of registered voters say they are “very uncomfortable” with President Trump’s candidacy for re-election while an additional 9% say they have “some reservations.”

Among those saying they’re “very uncomfortable” are at least half of several traditional swing voter groups, such as independents (50% saying they are “very uncomfortable”), suburban women (56%) and moderates (57%).

In contrast, just 26% of voters overall say they’re “enthusiastic” about Trump’s 2020 bid, with another 14% saying they are “comfortable.”

Commonsense said...

White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that he could guarantee that Americans would not lose their health care insurance coverage if the Affordable Care Act ends up being struck down in its most recent court challenge.”

He can guarantee that because 1. Most American get health insurance coverage through either work, Medicare, or Medicaid, and 2. Individual health insurance coverage would be honored through the end of the year.

Only the stupid and ignorant would believe James' nonsense.

James said...

Ohio Voters Disapprove of Trump By Large Margin

A new Baldwin Wallace University poll finds just 39% of Ohio adults approve of President Trump’s job performance, with almost three times more saying that they they “strongly disapprove” of Trump’s handling of the presidency than those who said they “strongly approve.”

Ohio is not currently considered in play on the interactive Electoral Vote Map.

James said...

Americans Not Buying Barr’s Summary of Mueller Report

A new NBC News/ Wall Street Journal poll finds that 29% of Americans say they believe President Trump has been cleared of wrongdoing, based on what they have heard about special counsel Robert Mueller’s findings, while 40% say they do not believe he has been cleared.

But a third of Americans — 31% — say they’re not sure if Trump has been cleared. That includes nearly half of independents (45%) and about a quarter of both Democrats (27%) and Republicans (25%.)

Washington Post: How the Mueller report can still threaten Trump’s legitimacy.

FOX NEWS said...

TRUMP CUTS AID TO THREE MEXICAN COUNTRIES

Laughing, James said...

Republicans Hope Trump Will Drop Obamacare Overhaul

“Republicans have no intention of heeding President Trump’s urgent demands for a new health-care plan to replace the Affordable Care Act, fearing the potential political damage that such a proposal could cause in 2020 and hoping he will soon drop the idea,” the Washington Post reports.

“Not only is there no such health-care overhaul in the works on Capitol Hill — there are no plans to make such a plan.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“Trump is threatening to shut down the border completely, not just to immigration but to trade as well. And he says since we have a trade deficit with Mexico, stopping the flow of goods from there will be a "profit-making enterprise." The man is an absolute fucking moron. He has no idea how many industries and companies rely on exports from Mexico to make their finished products, particularly cars. That would crash the economy in short order. How the fuck did this dumbass get elected? Oh yeah, he got 65M other dumbasses to vote for him”. ~ Ed Brayton

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

the POS spamming "pastor" is sure working overtime again.

Desperate.

And ineffective.

James said...

Trump Is Feeling Tired

New York Times: “After two years in office, Mr. Trump, 72, is tired, aides said. The unstoppable campaigner, so far, will commit to participating in only one campaign event a day, and recently balked at a possible rally out West during a fund-raising swing. The rally may still happen, people familiar with the plans said, but only because campaign officials insisted on it.”
_______________

It takes a lot of energy to lie so consistently.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Approximately 20 million Americans will lose their medical insurance coverage, and perhaps up to 25,000 Americans will die as a result of this shit.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Auburn is going to the final four!

anonymous said...

CH the flaming trumpist claims....

The fact that you actually believe that, proves my point!!!

And it also most amusing you avoided providing some changed facts you claimed......LOLOLOLOLOLOL

The only point is the one on top of your pin head......Here ya go idiot.....Thanx for eliminating the last shred of credibility you ever had!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Dumb fuck!!!!.

cli·mate change
noun
1.
a change in global or regional climate patterns, in particular a change apparent from the mid to late 20th century onwards and attributed largely to the increased levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide produced by the use of fossil fuel


global warming | Definition, Causes ... - Britannica.com
www.britannica.com/science/global-warming
Global warming is related to the more general phenomenon of climate change, which refers to changes in the totality of attributes that define climate. In addition to changes in air temperature, climate change involves changes to precipitation patterns, winds, ocean currents, and other measures of Earth’s climate.

anonymous said...

This same thing should happen to bakers who refuse to bake cakes.....


A conservative writer attacked a gay journalist on Twitter. This outlet just dropped her.

One of Denise McAllister's tweets aimed at journalist Yashar Ali. This and subsequent tweets resulted in her being dropped from the Federalist, a conservative outlet.
By Kayla Epstein March 31 at 1:55 PM
Denise McAllister’s name ricocheted around the Internet last week thanks to a viral dispute with Meghan McCain, co-host of ABC’s “The View.” Now, the publisher of a conservative outlet says McAllister will no longer write for it after she sent a barrage of homophobic tweets aimed at a gay journalist on Saturday.

Publisher Ben Domenech said that McAllister had written for the Federalist on a freelance basis and that the feedback he had received from the public and other writers in response to her tweets played a role in his decision.

“We have hundreds of freelancers,” he told The Washington Post. “She won’t be one of them going forward.”

Soon after the news broke, McAllister went on the offensive. “I was fired when I criticized a gay man who mocked my heterosexual relationship,” she tweeted. “Yet no one defended me when I stood for masculinity and God’s design for sexuality despite outlets saying they represent Judeo-Christian values about sexuality, identity and purpose. What is truth?”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election is over, but federal prosecutors are pursuing a slew of criminal inquiries that grew out of the investigation.

Several investigations stemmed from the inquiry into Michael D. Cohen, Donald J. Trump’s former personal lawyer. The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, turned the Cohen investigation over to federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York early last year.



Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty to arranging two hush money payments to women who said they had affairs with Mr. Trump. Prosecutors have examined the involvement of Mr. Trump and the Trump Organization in arranging and concealing the payments.
The special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election is over, but federal prosecutors are pursuing a slew of criminal inquiries that grew out of the investigation.

Several investigations stemmed from the inquiry into Michael D. Cohen, Donald J. Trump’s former personal lawyer. The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, turned the Cohen investigation over to federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York early last year.

It takes a lot of energy to lie so consistently.

Scott is furious that most Americans support Medicare for everyone.

He's so busy claiming that anyone who dares disagrees with him has cognitive dissonance.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The majority of Americans have cognitive dissonance, according to Scott.

WASHINGTON — Even as the White House claims vindication from the summary of special counsel Robert Mueller’s findings in the Russia probe, the American public does not see a clear verdict about whether President Donald Trump has been cleared of wrongdoing.

According to a new NBC News/ Wall Street Journal poll, 29 percent of Americans say they believe Trump has been cleared of wrongdoing, based on what they have heard about Mueller’s findings, while 40 percent say they do not believe he has been cleared.


But a third of Americans — 31 percent — say they’re not sure if Trump has been cleared. That includes nearly half of independents (45 percent) and about a quarter of both Democrats (27 percent) and Republicans (25 percent.)

Even 25% of Republicans have cognitive dissonance, according to Scott.

Michael Nöthem said...

‏@mikandynothem

Trump is despised by degenerate rappers, perverted Hollywood slime, cop hating NFL players, #FakeNews talking heads, and liberal nut jobs like Beto O'Rourke.
Makes me proud I voted for him!!

C.H. Truth said...

Approximately 20 million Americans will lose their medical insurance coverage, and perhaps up to 25,000 Americans will die as a result of this shit.

Who told you that Roger?

Same people who brought you the collusion delusion?

anonymous said...

Who told you that Roger?

Does it matter after your claim of facts being changed faster than the seattle weather?????? Like that Lil Scotty?????

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I know one thing for sure is that the racist rodent bastard will make some sick comments about Presidential Democratic hopeful Pete Buttigieg tells @vanjones68 that if America leads on human rights and LGBTQ issues, other countries' leaders would be "forced by world opinion to make some advancements."

Tune in for more at 7 p.m. ET on CNN. https://t.co/LegkyVfTft https://t.co/yBsuvDPvWC

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I heard it on the television last week. I will follow up.

anonymous said...

Same people who brought you the collusion delusion?

Or was it the promise of 3% GDP??????

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Since U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor’s surprise decision Friday night, most of the attention has focused on the immediate threat to pre-existing condition protections and health insurance for 20 million people covered through Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion and subsidized insurance markets. If the ruling is ultimately upheld after appeals, that would all be wiped away.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/19/obamacare-court-ruling-opposition-middle-class-1039811

More to come

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Just think about it. So many people who have diabetes, especially the elderly, would not be able to afford insulin.

And, yes if preexisting conditions were not covered by Medicare I would not be driving you crazy with facts.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

On Google, you will find many different numbers, but Scott.

Trump said that the Republicans will be the health care party. McConnell has said absolutely nothing in regards to the President and his irrational outbursts.

His appearance in Michigan should make you wonder WTF is going on there! Pencil neck, sixth grade insults, and even worse is threatening the free press and his opponents who dared to call him out.

If President Hillary Clinton had declared herself the smartest person ever to be President? You would be tweeting about this saying that she might take action against her opponent! #impeachment

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You delusional beliefs that the four page letter exonerated of all charges are once again your personal opinion.

As noted by Marcy Wheeler:

Here’s the thing, though: at least given what they lay out here, they only considered whether Trump was covering up his involvement in the hack-and-leak operation. It doesn’t consider whether Trump was covering up a quid pro quo, which is what there is abundant evidence of.

They didn’t consider whether Trump obstructed the crime that he appears to have obstructed. They considered whether he obstructed a different crime. And having considered whether Trump obstructed the crime he didn’t commit, rather than considering whether he obstructed the crime he did commit, they decided not to charge him with a crime.

William Saletan takes Barr's attempted cover-up apart, in detail, piece by piece:

Special counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his report on the Russia investigation, and Republicans are gloating. They claim a four-page letter from Attorney General William Barr, purporting to summarize the report, exonerates President Donald Trump. They’re wrong. The letter says the Justice Department won’t prosecute Trump, but it reaches that conclusion by tailoring legal standards to protect the president. Here’s a list of Barr’s weasel words and what they’re hiding.

To summarize:

When we get our hands on Mueller’s report—and ultimately, Mueller’s evidence—we’ll have a fuller picture of what he found. We know from Barr’s letter that in the report, Mueller “sets out evidence on both sides” of the obstruction question—and that Mueller says his report “does not exonerate” Trump. For now, all we have is the letter. And it doesn’t show that Trump is innocent of collusion or obstruction. It shows that collusion and obstruction were defined to exclude what he did.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/24/how-william-barr-did-old-man-back-flips-to-avoid-arresting-donald-trump/


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-report-barr-summary-obstruction-conspiracy-close-reading.html

I know that it's not Breitbart or Faux News Fiction

C.H. Truth said...

Politico???

Paaaahleeeze!

Collusion delusion flat earthers, just like the rest of them.

Sorry Roger... been hearing "sky is falling" reports from the left over everything from Health insurance, to unemployment rising, to a stock market crash, to recession, to nuclear war, to Russian collusion ever since Trump became President.


I have yet to find ANY of it has come true.

Why should I suddenly "believe" this pile of crap?

C.H. Truth said...

So Roger...

What you expect me to believe is:

Marcy Wheeler has evidence that the Mueller Special Counsel team never bothered to check out?


Seriously????

Commonsense said...

So many people who have diabetes, especially the elderly, would not be able to afford insulin.

Medicare part D covers insulin. I know of no health plan that doesn't also have a prescription drug plan.

And even if you don't have a drug plan the pharmaceutical company often give these drugs to people for free or deep discounts.

Nobody in America is denied needed medication simply because they can't afford it. That is simply a liberal lie.

Tom Fitton said...


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Anonymous said...

Sen. Bernie Sanders has vowed to cut prescription drug prices in half..."
Lol, how long has he been A Senator?

What major legislation has he authored that has become Law?

Just give us his top 3.

Thank you