Sunday, March 31, 2019

Tale of two polls

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that just 31% of all Likely U.S. Voters think congressional Democrats should do their own investigation even though the Mueller probe has failed to prove that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government. Sixty-one percent (61%) say Democrats in Congress should move on to other issues.
The Post-Schar School poll also shows there is now less overall support for Democrats’ investigating obstruction-of-justice claims against Trump than there was for investigations of Russia-related issues earlier this year. Just under half, 49 percent, say House Democrats should continue to investigate whether Trump interfered with the Russia investigation, while 48 percent say Democrats should stop investigating this issue.

So, there seems to be little support for a "fifth" investigation into whether or not the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The Rasmussen report (of likely voters) has been consistently lower than other polls commissioned by WaPo and others. But in the latest WaPo poll, the question regarding continued investigation into Russian collusion was apparently not asked (or at least not reported).

I think it would be "silly" at this point to not accept the Mueller probe as the final arbitrator on the subject. Sometime in April we will be getting the larger report from Mueller (redacted with Mueller's assistance) and that should put the issue to rest. As much as Democrats will call for "everything" I believe that once the bulk of the information has been provided to the public, even more will be willing to "move on".

In terms of obstruction, I would ask what the reason would be to start another investigation. There is quite literally zero chance that Democrats could remove Trump from office over some vague legally unprecedented obstruction charge that was not recommended by Mueller and flat out rejected by the viewpoint of the Department of Justice.

Moreover, without spending a single penny on the subject, the House could hold a vote on the subject of obstruction and it would likely be entirely partisan. They could spend the next year, spend millions of dollars and use countless resources, and it will not change one vote in the House. Acting as if it would, is a waste and ultimately a dereliction of duty. Too many other important things out there.

Lastly, the only "real" reason to investigation Obstruction would be to take a vote for impeachment. While some Democrats might have a stomach for more investigations, how many would have the stomach to formally reject the findings of the Department of Justice on the very sort of legal question that the Department of Justice is tasked and provided authority to decide?

The impeachment question has been losing steam for some time, and with an election in less than two years, why not just leave it to the American public to make that determination at the ballot box?


7 comments:

anonymous said...

Rasmussen the most biased poll in the market......Haven't seen enough of Post to make a conclusion yet....but you have!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!! Let the investigations go as long as the Hillary inquisitions......I think that would be fair considering the D's have been in charge for 4 months and the nunes and gowdy BS went on for 2 years......

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Fourth poll: CNN, CBS, PBS/NPR/Marist & NBC/WSJ showing the Barr strategy, while allowing Trump Admin to control initial dialogue, has utterly failed in lifting the cloud for any voters beyond his base. That's all Trump cares about. It has worked well on Scott Trumpism

C.H. Truth said...

Well Rog...

Try NYT poll...

Then you could have included "all" the pollsters that showed Hillary up double digits against Trump!

Again...

Whether or not you want to believe it.

The fact is that Mueller decided against any indictments and did not find any evidence of coordination.

A "poll" is not a fact, Roger!

Sorry.

C.H. Truth said...

The Funny thing Roger...

Is that you are simply proving the point I made in the previous post. That you will not accept a "fact" unless you can point to that "fact" being socially acceptable.

Reality has nothing to do with polls. Not only are polls capable of getting things entirely wrong, but so are the people who take them.

Again, if NYT commissioned a poll where 51% of Americans believed that 2+2=5 - would that make it true?


The only "fact" here is that nobody in the Trump family or the Trump inner circle is going to be indicted for any election conspiracies, and that the "principle conclusion" of Mueller's probe was that there was no conspiracy or coordination between Trump and the Russians who interfered with our election.

That doesn't go away simply because enough delusional people refuse to accept it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

We have not yet seen the full report.

It's quite likely that some of the things that people in the campaign or others may have done things that didn't break any laws.

But inappropriate behavior can cause serious damage to the President and his family or more.

You should be upset when he sided with Putin on the Russian intervention into the election, despite Trump's own Security services and intelligence services told him otherwise.

You sited polling to make a statement, but now A "poll" is not a fact, and it doesn't prove he is innocent or inappropriate behavior by the President or the United States.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Again, if Rassmusson commissioned a poll where 51% of Americans believed that 2+2=5 - would that make it true?


You would.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Again, if Rassmusson commissioned a poll where 51% of Americans believed that 2+2=5 - would that make it true?



moron,

polls are conducted to reflect public sentiment, not validate it.

it chaps your ass that even though scott rasmussen leans right, his former polling firm that bears his name remains the most accurate by a longshot.

especially in the case of the 2016 presidential election.