From a policy standpoint, the only lesson that can be drawn from the Christchurch massacre is reflected in the difference in the casualty totals between the two attacks. Forty-one were killed at the Dean Ave. mosque, the first one that was targeted, where the murderer had plenty of time and at one point returned to his vehicle to reload. There were only seven killed at the Linwood mosque because one of the worshippers was armed: (link)
So in the case where nobody but him was armed. He was able to take his time, kill fortyone people. In the case where he was not the only one armed, he killed seven, and was chased off by two gunmen.
Had he gone to the second church first, there is a good chance that only seven people would have been killed. Certainly a tragedy, but better than forty-nine. We see this time and time and time and time and time again. Mass murderers are always more successful when they are in gun free zones.
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So in the case where nobody but him was armed. He was able to take his time, kill forty one people
In in floriduh...there was an armed guard on campus....how'd that work out Lil Scotty?????? Your flawed logic that being armed would prevent mass killings is about as useless as the current background checks......
New Zealand will be reexamining its gun laws to see why this man could have a modified rapid fire weapon.
The White House is describing as "outrageous" any attempts to link the killer to Trump.
Candace Owens (a black, right wing Trump supporter) is threatening with a lawsuit any leftists who suggest a link between her and the killer.
Trouble is, the killer himself made those links, identifying Trump and Owens as two of his most important inspirations.
Well Denny...
I know it's always been a hard reality for liberals to wrap their head around, but "guns" on their own don't kill anyone or protect anyone.
When the guy with the gun wets his pants, runs and hides behind is squad car, then he really isn't an armed combatant attempting to help out. He might as well not had a gun.
Which of course is why he was fired.
your link is broken. here you go:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/03/observations-on-christchurch.php
and i agree with hinderaker. the best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. but in addition to the gun, the courage to use it under fire is required. unlike the broward coward who shit himself at the scene and promptly retired with a full pension.
y but him was armed. He was able to take his time, kill forty one people
Would anyone being armed at theLas Vegas concert massacre save any lives against an a machine gun above you????? Now you buy the NRA BS.....arming civilians is a joke that would probably endanger more then it saves.....
but it's trump who is completely off his rocker...
Woman slashed stranger's SUV tires because she allegedly 'disagreed' with his MAGA hat inside
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/woman-slashes-strangers-suv-tires-disagreed-maga-hat-inside-220714214.html
Trouble is, the killer himself made those links, identifying Trump and Owens as two of his most important inspirations.
, but "guns" on their own don't kill anyone or protect anyone.
LOLOLOPL!!! All it takes is one idiot, asshole.....guns in anyones hands multiples the danger for all around....Now you differentiate that a trained officer is incapable of protecting the public.....and you think you wouldn't shit a brick when fired at...YOUR DUMBEST COMMENT EVAH Lil Scotty....What did the firing prove???? Asshole....figure that out and you may come up with something...LOLOLOLOL
er's SUV tires because she allegedly 'disagreed' with his MAGA hat inside
That'll teach you to put that sigh of bigotry in the glove box or trunk.....Must have been a pissed citizen who dislikes trump.... I see a MAGA hat no different than a Confederate flag...KKK hoodie or calling spanish speaking people beaners......
No white nationalist problem here according trump as long as they vote for me!!!!!!!
By Colby Itkowitz and
John Wagner March 15 at 6:32 PM
President Trump said Friday he does not believe white nationalism is a rising global danger after a suspected gunman who authorities say espoused that ideology killed 49 Muslims in New Zealand.
When asked at the White House whether white nationalists were a growing threat around the world, Trump replied: “I don’t really. I think it’s a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. It’s certainly a terrible thing.”
Trump also said he had not seen a manifesto, purportedly from an attacker, that named him as an inspiration for white identity ideology.
The responses Friday by Trump and other U.S. politicians divided heavily along partisan lines. While many Republicans de-emphasized the role of white nationalist ideology, some Democrats suggested, either directly or indirectly, that Trump’s history of anti-Muslim remarks and policies contributed to the tragedy.
“Time and time again, this president has embraced and emboldened white supremacists — and instead of condemning racist terrorists, he covers for them,” tweeted Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), who is seeking to challenge Trump in 2020. “This isn’t normal or acceptable. We have to be better than this.”
I actually wrote the manifesto
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/03/15/the-new-zealand-manifesto/
Thanx donnie....you are doing a helluva job!!!!
M Ohio plant closes after 52 years
General Motors employee Amy Drennen (r.), who has worked at the company’s Lordstown, Ohio plant for 12 years, receives a hug from fellow employee Pam Clark, as people gather in front of the General Motors assembly plant on March 6, 2019. Wednesday is the last day of the plant's Chevrolet Cruze production, a move that will eliminate nearly 1,700 hourly jobs and idle the plant. (Steph Chambers / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette via AP)
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Employees at the General Motors plant in Lordstown, Ohio mourned the closing of their plant on March 6, 2019 as the last Chevrolet Cruze came off the assembly line. The plant is closing after 52 years, since GM production will now be conducted outside the U.S., and workers both protested and wept outside of the facility on Wednesday.
Jobs, jobs, jobs...latest job openings data show that Trump knows what it's about
With the press largely focused on the college cheating scandal and cooking up new ways to Blame Trump for the mosque massacre in New Zealand, some real news is going largely unnoticed: "US Job Openings Soar To All Time High: 1.3 Million More Than Unemployed Workers."
@Chairmnoomowmow
This week I learned that America’s most prestigious universities, the shining examples of liberal thought and equality, are selling degrees to celebrities, under the table, for cash.
Federal Judge Tosses Lawsuit That Accused Trump Campaign of Conspiring with Russia and WikiLeaks to Hack and Release DNC Emails
It has been nearly three years since the DNC accused the Trump campaign of conspiring with Russia to hack the DNC servers and give WikiLeaks the DNC emails, yet the FBI still has never done a forensic inspection of the servers.
We have no proof the DNC servers were even hacked in 2016 — and if they were hacked, by whom?
Former FBI Director James Comey admitted during a January 2017 testimony that the FBI requested the DNC servers on “multiple” occasions, yet the DNC refused to hand over their servers — there was no pre-dawn door buster raid to seize the servers, because Democrat privilege.
The DNC conveniently hired Crowdstrike as part of their deal with the FBI to investigate the servers and they concluded the DNC servers were hacked by Russian groups dubbed ‘Fancy Bear’ and ‘Cozy Bear’ yet they offered zero concrete proof.From the judge:
Trump’s Breitbart Biker Threat Came From the Putin Playbook—Then Tweet Deleted After Mosque Massacre.
MOSCOW—They call themselves The Night Wolves, “a new kind of motorcycle club,” or, sometimes, “Putin’s Angels.” And just as much as the Orthodox Church or the military, the Wolves have become a symbol of Vladimir Putin’s Russia. But the idea that they might be used as his extra-legal enforcers in times of trouble is usually implicit—embedded in their flag-waving Putinized patriotism—never really spelled out.
U.S. President Donald Trump is not so subtle, however, especially when he takes his cues from the Kremlin. Leave it to him to put the potential for violent defense of his interests by a motorcycle gang front and center in the public view.
We are headed down the road to a dictatorship.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-biker-threat-came-from-the-putin-playbook-but-tweet-deleted-after-mosque-massacre
Mass murderers are always more successful when they are in gun free zones.
The Oklahoma City bombing was a domestic terrorist truck bombing on the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building[1] in downtown Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, United States on April 19, 1995. Perpetrated by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, the bombing happened at 9:02am and killed at least 168 people,[2] injured more than 680 others, and destroyed one-third of the building.
Mass murderers are always more successful when they are in gun free zones.
https://youtu.be/FcEbkM5Z3yA
The country Scott desires.
Gunsmoke
We are headed down the road to a dictatorship.
is that what the voices in your head are telling you this week, rog?
*** FAKE NEWS ALERT ***
Roger Amick said...
Trump’s Breitbart Biker Threat Came From the Putin Playbook—Then Tweet Deleted After Mosque Massacre.
The Daily Beast was forced to issue a correction undermining it's whole story, though nobody reads down to the bottom of their "news" and it actually should have been removed. Mission accomplished, damage done, Roger is happy.
This article has been corrected to note that Trump’s Breitbart interview was on Monday, although published Wednesday, and he did not tweet directly his widely commented upon remarks about bikers but tweeted a link to the Breitbart home page. That tweet was the one subsequently removed.
New Zealand Mass Murderer Visited Pakistan Last Year – Called it “Incredible Place Filled With the Most Kind-Hearted, Hospitable People in the World”
The Daily Mail reported about his several trips abroad, including Pakistan last year. In a previous Facebook message about a trip to Pakistan on Facebook, he wrote: ‘an incredible place filled with the most earnest, kindhearted and hospitable people in the world,‘ The Sydney Morning Herald reported.
‘The beauty of hunza and nagar valley in autumn cannot be beat,’ he stated.
The fact that Tarrant recently visited Pakistan is interesting, especially since he spoke so highly of Pakistan in recent Facebook posts.
The mosques that he targeted in New Zealand were Bangladeshi mosques. It is well known that Pakistan and Bangladesh are two Muslim nations that do not get along.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/new-zealand-mass-murderer-visited-pakistan-last-year-called-it-incredible-place-filled-with-the-most-kind-hearted-hospitable-people-in-the-world/
looks like facts are still coming out but this certainly doesn't fit with the media narrative...
Nigerian Muslim Militants Kill 120 Christians in Three Weeks"
No one's care because they are Christians.
is that what the voices in your head are telling you this week, rog?""
We learn that Mail Order kept Alky grounded.
Blogger KD said...
Nigerian Muslim Militants Kill 120 Christians in Three Weeks"
Please.....the headline is breitbart which is the biggest source of FAKE NEWS!!!! No wonder why there is no coverage because its not real or it would be.....Idiot
This is the current headline of the source Breitbart claimed to have used
Grandmother fighting to save 10-y-o grandson from puberty blockers, gender-transition speaks out
BY BRANDON SHOWALTER
Eight year-old Jack Wilson was on a weekend visit to his grandparents' house in mid-December 2017 when he informed his grandmother that his name was really Jacquelyn.
Mother of girl who thinks she’s a boy speaks out, unpacks lies therapists told her
Doctors speak out: Lupron and the 'diabolical' push to sterilize, gender-transition confused kids
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Fucking hilarious goat fucking idiot...!!!
120 people killed, 140 homes destroyed by Nigeria Fulani since February
At least 120 people have been killed by alleged Fulani militant attacks since February in the Kaduna state of Nigeria with the latest attacks on Monday resulting in the deaths of over 50 and the destruction of more than 140 homes. The governor of Kaduna state, Nasir El-Rufai, imposed a dusk-to-dawn curfew this week in the troubled Kajuru Local Government Area as thousands have been displaced from their homes by violence caused by militant Fulani herdsmen.The curfew comes as there have been a string of recent attacks against communities within the predominantly Christian Adara chiefdom of southern Kaduna.
On Monday, 52 people were killed, dozens injured and around 143 homes were destroyed in attacks on the villages of Inkirimi, Dogonnoma and Ungwan Gora in the Maro district of the Kajuru Local Government Area, according to Christian Solidarity Worldwide.
The Monday attack followed an attack on Sunday in the Ungwan Barde village in Kajuru in which 17 people were killed and dozens of homes were burned.
In late February, there was another attack in Maro that resulted in the deaths of about 38 Christians and saw homes and a church burned. On Feb. 10, 10 people were killed in an attack in Ungwan Barde as six others were killed in isolated attacks the day before.
CSW, a United Nations-recognized NGO that advocates for persecuted Christians worldwide, reports that victims in the attacks on Monday included women and children. Survivors told the nonprofit that the attackers were separated into three groups. One group shot and killed people, the second set fire to buildings, and a third ran after people fleeing the scene.
According to CSW, one victim of the attack who suffered a deep cut delivered a stillborn baby shortly after.
“We are deeply disturbed by the resurgence of militia attacks in southern Kaduna, and extend our deepest condolences to the Adara people,” CSW Chief Executive Mervyn Thomas said in a statement.
CSW believes that the recent violence could have been incited by Kaduna Governor el Rufai’s claims on the eve of Nigeria’s presidential elections that 66, mostly Fulani, people were killed in Kajuru.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/120-people-killed-140-homes-destroyed-by-nigeria-fulani-since-february.html
Sure hope this sawed off runt gets to spend some time at Uncle Sam's finest hotels with Manafort....
Jared Kushner had a rough week and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better
Business Insider
DAVID CHOI (DCHOI@BUSINESSINSIDER.COM)
It's been a rough week for President Donald Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner.
Kushner still faces congressional scrutiny after an internal White House memo suggested Trump was directly involved in granting his security clearance.
Kushner's academic records and the circumstances surrounding his acceptance to Harvard University have also been publicly questioned.
Several other excerpts from the upcoming tell-all book on Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, Kushner, Inc.: Greed. Ambition. Corruption. The Extraordinary Story of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, shine an unflattering light on the couple.
In a statement to INSIDER about the book, a spokesperson for Kushner's real-estate firm called the book "fiction," and said "the book is too fake and too dumb to warrant any comment."
It's been a rough week for President Donald Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner.
Questions surrounding the circumstances of his security clearance (and whether Trump influenced the process), still loom as lawmakers demand the US Justice Department launch an investigation into the matter.
According to people who were briefed on a contemporaneous memo, Trump had "ordered" former White House chief of staff John Kelly to upgrade Kushner's interim top-secret security clearance. The incident reportedly concerned Kelly and prompted him to put it on the record.
Democratic lawmakers like Rep. Ted Lieu of California and Rep. Don Beyer of Virginia issued a joint statement saying they were "deeply disturbed" by the existence of Kelly's memo, which was first reported by The New York Times last week.
"We request that the Department of Justice open an immediate investigation to determine if Mr. Kushner is criminally liable," the lawmakers said, as they referenced over a hundred foreign contacts that were omitted from Kushner's initial security clearance application.
Anonymous posted link to fraudulent site whose latest headline was about an 8 year old transgender!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.christianpost.com/news/120-people-killed-140-homes-destroyed-by-nigeria-fulani-since-february.html
Unknown - Gender _ Unknown
explains why he was searching for that - LOL
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