In a Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released Tuesday, 67 percent of respondents said the question, “Is this person a citizen of the United States?” should be allowed on the census. That number included about 88 percent of Republicans, 52 percent of Democrats, and 63 percent of independents agreed.
“The public here agrees with the administration that it makes sense to ask citizenship on the census,” said poll director Mark Penn. “It is a clear supermajority of Americans on this issue.”
While it looks like the census question will not be on the 2020 census, the "victory" is hollow as most Americans disagree with the Democratic stance.
Liberals continue to live in their collective bubble on the issues of the day. The worst is their extreme positions on immigration, which being pretty much more open border than the next person seems to be a requirement for any Democrat wanting to win the nomination.
But according to recent polling, only 27% want to "increase" the amount of people let in the country, and the same scant percentage (27%) would like to make asylum easier. Meanwhile a plurality wants immigration to be determined by skills (rather than chain migration), and 70% of the public sees what is happening at the border either a serious problem or a crisis. Democrats continue to twist themselves into knots by demanding that there is simultaneously no crisis, while people like Ocasio-Cortez wander around telling us how horrible things are at the border. The recent bill passed by the House accented their issues with the whole situation, driving a wedge between various groups.
It's like they want to complain, but they don't want to allow anyone to fix anything (so they can continue to complain).
Democrats have similar issues when it comes to free speech issues, supporting the violence of groups like Antifa, going over the edge with their support for the "woke" issues of the day, and standing behind anti-Americans like Colin Kaepernick. Not to mention the extreme stances on abortion, pushing new trans-laws that offend even women, and basically making a point to oppose anything Trump is in favor of.
They may feel good about the 2020 election right now. But once they have to actually step up and argue their points... things could change in a hurry.
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You lost the argument.
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WASHINGTON — The Trump administration, in a dramatic about-face, abandoned its quest on Tuesday to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, a week after being blocked by the Supreme Court.
Faced with mounting deadlines and a protracted legal fight, officials ordered the Census Bureau to start printing forms for next year’s head count without the question.
The decision was a victory for critics who said the question was part of an administration effort to skew the census results in favor of Republicans. It was also a remarkable retreat for an administration that typically digs into such fights.
Just last week after the Supreme Court’s decision, President Trump said he was asking his lawyers to delay the census, “no matter how long,” in order to fight for the question in court.
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Word of the action came in a one-sentence email from the Justice Department to lawyers for plaintiffs in a New York lawsuit that sought to block the question’s inclusion in the head count.
The email offered no explanation, but the administration was confronting weeks or months of additional legal challenges to the question. Meanwhile, the Census Bureau had said it needed to begin printing questionnaires by July 1 to meet the April 2020 deadline for conducting the census.
The administration’s decision appeared to end a yearlong battle over the country’s all-important decennial head count. Census results are used to divvy up seats in the House of Representatives and to draw political maps at all levels of government. They are also used to allot federal funding for key social services.
The addition of a citizenship question to the census could have had profound implications for American politics. Officials at the Census Bureau itself have said that including the question would lead to an undercount of noncitizens and minority residents. As a result, areas with more immigrants, which tend to vote Democratic, could have lost both representation and federal funding.
Not to mention the extreme stances on abortion, pushing new trans-laws that offend even women, and basically making a point to support anything Trump is in favor of.
Puppets like you.
These people are being treated like prisoners of the President that you support no matter how extreme!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/help-photos-show-hundreds-migrants-squashed-cells-appealing-assistance-n1025831
This will not be an issue in the election.
You want more concentration camps filled with people who answered the census count accuracy, who are illegal immigrants, or seeking asylum, because you want the citizenship question to be used to put thousands more beaners in the cages.
And remember that the allocation of electoral college votes depends upon the census count.
Lol@Roger ,
What Roger meant was, the population of each state determines the number of Electorial College votes for that State.
Not as he stated. Wrong on everything Roger.
May 1, 2019 · California's 2018 population growth was the slowest in state history, new ... patterns, declining birthrates and economic strains that are making it harder for some to afford living here."
What?
Great news.
"Statewide, the number of people calling New York home dropped by 48,500, a 0.25% decline to 19.5 million, over the most recent one year time frame measured by the Census Bureau. The nation witnessed 0.6%population growth. "Nine states lostpopulation, New York being one of them," Vink said.Apr 18, 2019"
What was the uniformed Alky saying?
States can gain or lose congressional seats in the house of Representatives. The number of electoral college votes are determined by the number of members in the house of Representatives.
You say that you have a college degree. I find that hard to believe.
From a friend who used to post on soars.
You do realize why they are fleeing their country?
The upshot is that many Central Americans trying to enter the United States are literally running for their lives.
That includes Pedro, whose uncle and two brothers were gunned down on a crowded Guatemala City street in 2015 because, he believed, his cousin had stolen from a drug-trafficking organization. Like others I’ve interviewed who are fleeing violent persecution, he requested anonymity to protect himself and family still living in Guatemala.
Pedro said he moved with his wife and two daughters to another part of the city to escape detection. But then police discovered his 13-year-old daughter’s body in an alleyway.
Her assailants had raped her, burned her with cigarettes and knifed her to death. Pedro said that no one would tell him who did it, but he fled with his family to ensure their safety.
Or Alejandra, from a mid-size city west of the Guatemalan capital, who told me she was in her final year of a nurse training program and spending Christmas holidays with family when she witnessed her uncle gunned down in his front yard while he strung up party lights.
The uncle, she said, had refused to pay extortion money to a criminal group run by active and former police officers. The next day, Alejandra received threatening messages on Facebook. She didn’t want to leave the country, but moved in with a friend in another town and tried to lie low.
A few weeks later, Alejandra claimed, the group sent a kid with a handgun to kill her. She escaped by throwing herself from her motorbike. That’s when she decided to give up her career and flee Guatemala.
For financial or personal reasons, many Central Americans are unable or unwilling to flee in the face of such threats. That can exact a steep price.
One evening in late 2018, a woman named Sofia said that members of MS-13 caught her when she was walking home from work in San Pedro Sula, Honduras. She’d moved to the city months before with her 12-year-old daughter, because her husband, Pablo, had fled the country to escape the gang’s threats.
Pablo had worked driving a produce truck, but then MS-13 killed his boss for refusing to pay extortion. Gang extortion is believed to be a leading cause of murder in Honduras and though the majority of the country’s extortion victims are poor, they pay about $200 million a year to protect themselves.
MS-13 told Pablo he was next.
The family’s funds were just enough to get Pablo out of Honduras. Maybe, they hoped, if he was gone the gang would leave the family alone. Once in the States, he could send money home.
The plan didn’t work. Four gang members forced Sofia into a car, drove her to the countryside, beat her and raped her repeatedly. “This is what will happen to your daughter,” they shouted at her over and over again, “if you don’t pay us what your husband owes.”
And you want to send them back? Keep them in cages? When did you lose your morality?
alky logic -
it's unamerican to count how many actual Americans are in America.
i knew that this country would eventually go swirling down the shitter, and i knew that it would be at the hands of liberals, but i never did actually want to live to see it.
vile piece of shit who dresses like a fucking rodeo clown had this to say:
"Those people who are online making fun of members of Congress are a disgrace and there is no need for anyone to think that is unacceptable," Wilson said during a press conference. "We are going to shut them down and work with whoever it is to shut them down, and they should be prosecuted."
https://www.dailywire.com/news/49109/frederica-wilson-people-should-be-prosecuted-ryan-saavedra
i'm not sure what the left hate's more - trump or the first amendment.
I recall not too long ago as our menstral cramps had a shit fit over funding of NPR!!!!! Not a peep for this blatantly political event, sponsored by the tax payers!!!!! Rat just keeps swallowing!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!
Park Service diverts $2.5 million for Trump’s July 4 extravaganza
The agency will dip into fees primarily intended to improve parks across the country, according to two individuals familiar with the arrangement.
By Juliet Eilperin, Josh Dawsey and Dan Lamothe
Oh look, Roger is taking a creative writing class.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You lost the argument.
actually alky, the poll CH cites clearly indicates that we've won the argument. what we lost was the USSC case. once again, thanks to roberts.
the harsh reality of this is that democrats don't want us to known how many criminal beaners from third world shitholes are here illegally. and the reason for that is simple - as it stands right now states like NY stand to lose at least one and probably two congressional seats. the same with that open sewer known as CA.
so, simply put, the left has to once again rely on a LIE and sleight of hand to maintain their grip on power. kind of like 'ballot harvesting' only in reverse.
we see right thru your bullshit alky. and your phony compassion for pablo, pedro, and every other fake sadz beaner story you concoct.
Blogger Commonsense said...
Oh look, Roger is taking a creative writing class.
At least he makes cogent posts, unlike you and the fuck from albany who are both examples of the failed education system!!!!
he poll CH cites clearly indicates that we've won the argument
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!! you dumb fuck....Polls also indicate that the overwhelmingly majority think the country is going in the wrong direction!!!!! Is that also a win? Asshole
And the heat goes on.....even warm for floriduh!!!!!! Yes, this is weather assholes......
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Melbourne FL
434 AM EDT Wed Jul 3 2019
FLZ041-044>046-053-058-141-144-147-032300-
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Inland Volusia-Northern Lake-Orange-Seminole-Osceola-Okeechobee-
Coastal Volusia-Southern Lake-Northern Brevard-
Including the cities of Debary, Deland, Deltona, Eustis,
Mount Dora, Leesburg, Tavares, Apopka, Maitland, Orlando,
Winter Park, Union Park, Altamonte Springs, Casselberry, Oviedo,
Sanford, Winter Springs, Celebration, Kissimmee, Saint Cloud,
Basinger, Fort Drum, Okeechobee, Daytona Beach, New Smyrna Beach,
Ormond Beach, Clermont, Mascotte, Groveland, Cocoa,
and Titusville
434 AM EDT Wed Jul 3 2019
...HEAT ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM THIS MORNING TO 7 PM EDT
THIS EVENING...
The National Weather Service in Melbourne has issued a Heat
Advisory, which is in effect from 11 AM this morning to 7 PM EDT
this evening.
* TEMPERATURE...Heat index values between 106 and 110 are expected
across the interior today, as well as along the coastal Volusia
County and north Brevard County.
* IMPACTS...The high heat index values could lead to dehydration,
heat exhaustion, and heat stroke for those outdoors.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
A Heat Advisory means that a period of hot temperatures is
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possible. Drink plenty of fluids...stay in an air-conditioned
room...stay out of the sun...and check up on relatives and
neighbors.
Take extra precautions...if you work or spend time outside. When
possible...reschedule strenuous activities to early morning or
evening. Know the signs and symptoms of heat exhaustion and heat
stroke. Wear light weight and loose fitting clothing when possible
and drink plenty of water.
To reduce risk during outdoor work...the occupational safety and
health administration recommends scheduling frequent rest breaks
in shaded or air conditioned environments. Anyone overcome by heat
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Fuck this BS event honoring our liar in chief......and the slurpers will drool all over themselves....!!!!!
Board July 1 at 7:35 PM
In recent weeks, readers have written letters to The Post recounting their memories of gathering on the Mall and watching the fireworks on the Fourth of July. Claire O’Dwyer Randall remembered her father driving her family in a 1939 DeSoto sedan “as close as we can get” to the Mall. Mary Resnick wrote about “our” special spot on the steps of the reflecting pool, surrounded by tens of thousands of “our best friends.” Carol Cavanaugh explained how the celebration was her annual reminder of the United States as glorious melting pot.
The letters were written in response to President Trump taking direct control of plans for the country’s premier Independence Day festivities; the writers were worried that a day traditionally set aside for Americans to come together for simple love of country was in danger of being co-opted and usurped. Judging by the latest revelations of the president’s plans, they were right to worry. The order of the day as ordained by Mr. Trump will not be patriotism but instead personality and politics.
It was bad enough that Mr. Trump sought to make the holiday about himself with plans to deliver a nationally televised address from the Lincoln Memorial, thus eliminating what many consider the hands-down best spot in Washington for fellowship and fireworks on the Fourth of July. But Mr. Trump now plans to cordon off an area in front of the memorial reserved just for dignitaries, family and friends. Nothing about reserved seating says “We the people.”
Equally, if not more troubling, is his insistence on a display of military might that will include a flyover of warplanes and the stationing of tanks or other armored military vehicles on the streets of the capital. What this will cost the Defense Department and the National Parks Service is anyone’s guess. (Officials have refused comment.) But the question of expense pales in comparison with the message that will be sent by a gaudy display of military hardware that is more in keeping with a banana republic than the world’s oldest democracy.
Administration officials say the celebration will be bigger and better than before, with more music and a longer fireworks display. But Americans shouldn’t be lured by the trappings or the spectacle or the rhetoric of Mr. Trump. Instead, like our letter writers, they should claim the day for values embraced by the founders: freedom, tolerance and respect for all.
Roger has always had college degree Envy.
What does an idiot say:
"States can gain or lose congressional seats in the house of Representatives. The number of electoral college votes are determined by the number of members in the house of Representatives. "
Those US Representatives are based on State Population. CA and New York will loss Electorial Votes as their population have either remained static or gone done.
Celebration of Summer Weather and the 4th of July as the bumper crop of wheat fills the grain elevators and gets ship abroad.
Don't forget to check out the big 4th of July party in Washington DC. It's gonna be Hugh!!!!!
Heat index values between 106 and 110 are expected
across the interior today
huh.
not too many years ago i built a backyard fence for my next door neighbor in olathe kansas. totally stick built (no panels) per neighborhood association specs. we did everything from drilling the post holes in that kansas clay to screwing/nailing up each board until finished in a heat index that hovered around 120.
nobody got sick, nobody died, fence was beautiful when finished.
it seems like in the span of less than 20 years we've gone from being able to work outside like that to becoming total pussies who need the media to warn us that it is in fact... summertime.
i suppose it would be terrible if those man bun-sporting hipster douchebags wilted a little in the mid-day sun.
thanks for the public service announcement denny.
just think of all the turd burglar lives you might have saved today.
Heat index values between 106 and 110 are expected
across the interior today
In other words, a typical summer day in Florida.
Why the hell do you think the need to put roofs on MLB parks in Florida.
Daily weather reports by Denny
Oh Roger , you were Saying?
,"The report found New York was just one of nine states to see a decrease in population, losing an estimated 48,510 residents between July 1, 2017, and July 1, 2018.
That's more than any state.
Illinois saw the second largest population loss of 45,116."
Illinois "come on man".
Funny how GW is now a concern and caused by man by 67% makes you still believe it is a hoax???? No different than your BS thread using polls to say dems are wrong.....more abject hypocrisy by our esteemed pedophile......LOILOLOL Data from gallup......
In other words, a typical summer day in Florida.
Another opinion based on your antidotal bias......BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Well, since I've experienced about 63 Florida summers I considered myself an expert. 😁😁😁
Austin city council votes to allow homeless camping on sidewalks… except in front of city hall
Today’s prize for lack of self-awareness goes to the Austin, Texas city council. While it is fine and dandy for homeless people to camp out in front of people’s homes and businesses, with all the problems of human waste, panhandling, mental illness, and open drug use that we in the Bay Area see whenever we venture to take a walk in San Francisco, the wise councilors exempted their own place of business from the such concerns.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/07/austin_city_council_votes_to_allow_homeless_camping_on_sidewalks_except_in_front_of_city_hall.html#ixzz5scPh5Rcf
Wonder if all the illegal border crossers have any effect on homelessness ???
Wonder if all the illegal border crossers have any effect on homelessness ???
Maybe.....maybe not. But it sure proves how those in dangerous countries will risk their lives to try and better themselves.....Something you have never experienced being a privileged white boy living in a nearly perfect life.....LOLOLOLOL
Hey.....coward....here's an idea.....Give that 5 million trump will spend to blow himself tomorrow to help the homeless problem in Austin....no one will miss the $ since it is being pissed away on donnie's ego and vanity!!!!!
In cramps narrow version of the world....this would be murder and must make women carry to term in spite of the prognosis.....Yep, the cultist way wants to tell everyone what to do no matter what......Alabama and Ga would jail the doctor.....brilliant!!!!
When I was 20 weeks pregnant, I and my husband learned during a routine ultrasound that our baby had not developed a major portion of her brain and never would. The condition, anencephaly, a type of neural tube defect that also stunts the growth of the skull, is terminal. If carried to term, our baby would be very unlikely to survive for more than a few hours.
One in 1,000 fetuses have this condition. We had no warning signs. No indications. No idea this was coming. This was a baby we had planned for. Just three weeks earlier we had told our 5-year-old daughter that she would soon have a baby sister. We returned home from the hospital that day and had to tell her that her sister was not coming any more. It was the first time she saw me sobbing, unable to speak.
We made the decision to terminate the pregnancy immediately. Then came the roadblocks.
I am a federal worker, and the Hyde Amendment, passed by Congress in 1976, barred my health insurance company from covering my abortion, just as it does for the millions of other women who are federal employees and for the millions of women who are federal Medicaid recipients. The amendment allows abortion coverage only if the pregnancy will endanger a woman’s life or is the result of rape or incest. Some states use their own funds to cover abortions that don’t fall within those bounds. Pennsylvania, where I live, is not one of them.
I’m lucky to be a federal employee in some respects. I benefited from regular prenatal care that was entirely covered by my insurer. I benefited all the way until I needed to have an abortion, when my health care coverage disappeared — at the time I needed it most
lo iq "anonymous said: "When I was 20 weeks pregnant"
ROFLMFAO !!!
good work lo iq, what a mind, and a wasted life you are
Roger has always had college degree Envy.
Roger envies my college degree
Denny envies my wife
James envies my ability to write
I am a federal worker, and the Hyde Amendment, passed by Congress in 1976
If she's a federal worker, then she could have paid for the abortion herself.
But her story doesn't pass the smell test. If the termination was truly to preserve the life and health of the mother then it would have been covered.
There nothing in the Hyde amendment that requires her to carry the baby to term if it endangers her life.
Hey.....coward....here's an idea.....Give that 5 million trump will spend to blow himself tomorrow to help the homeless problem in Austin....
So what exactly would the federal government do in Austin. Round up the homeless and deport them ?
I like the idea of a big 4th of July party.
You know Austin has a LOT of bats, they live under bridges. The term bat shit crazy is true and then there's the rabies.
https://austinot.com/guide-bat-season-in-austin
The term bat shit crazy is true and then there's the rabies.
You mean bats live the same place you and the other losers reside?????
Maybe Austin could set up pens to get the vagrants off the street with the wasted money in DC....asshole....or why not just burn it for all the good is being wasted!!!!!
By Greg Sargent
Opinion writer
July 3 at 10:39 AM
The authoritarian nationalist leader typically rewrites the story of the nation in his own image. Our own homegrown authoritarian nationalist has proved particularly devoted to this fusion of national mythmaking and self-hagiography, often delivered in his own unique language of crass, gaudy spectacle.
The historians tell us that this is what authoritarian nationalists do. As Harvard’s Jill Lepore puts it, they replace history with tried-and-true fictions — false tales of national decline at the hands of invented threats, melded to fictitious stories of renewed national greatness, engineered by the leader himself, who is both author of the fiction and its mythic hero.
This is what we will be seeing in one form or another on the Fourth of July, no matter what Trump says in his planned Independence Day speech from the Lincoln Memorial. The very act of taking over the proceedings in the manner he has cooked up itself accomplishes this feat.
New details are emerging about Trump’s plans. The Post reports that the National Park Service will now divert millions of dollars previously earmarked to improve parks across the country to fund Trump’s celebration on the Mall.
Meanwhile, a White House official tells The Post that the plans include a plane from Air Force One’s fleet soaring overhead at precisely the moment that Trump takes the stage. Tanks will take part in the display.
Finally, the White House is handing out tickets to the event to GOP donors and political appointees. Passes are being distributed by the Republican National Committee and Trump’s reelection campaign.
As many critics have pointed out, by politicizing the Fourth of July so nakedly, Trump has inevitably transformed the celebration into a campaign event. It remains to be seen whether he will do so explicitly in his speech, but either way, that conversion has already been implicitly accomplished.
Blogger KD said...
Roger has always had college degree Envy.
While you remain a goat fucking idiot asshole with no visible means of support!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!! You just have envy...a real sin!!!!!
I like the idea of a big 4th of July party.
Hey asshole....the DC mall has a big party every year with music, fire works and lots of entertainment It is a happening!!!!....Now King Trump is going to give a fucking speech at your expense.....maybe they should charge for the flyovers???? Dayum you need to open your eyes!!!!!!
Fatty we all know you suffer from toxoplasmosis
you're especially angry today, hunger pangs before a big eating competition tomorrow
To really trigger the left I hope he ends tomorrows parade with a large "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner.
Won't be able to hear the fireworks over the lefty heads exploding.
ROFLMFAO !!!
@realDonaldTrump
The News Reports about the Department of Commerce dropping its quest to put the Citizenship Question on the Census is incorrect or, to state it differently, FAKE! We are absolutely moving forward, as we must, because of the importance of the answer to this question.
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Fatty we all know you suffer from toxoplasmosis
BWAAAAAAAA!!!! And we all know you to be a GA loser salesman with a very large head. who drinks too much...,.LOLOLOLOL asshole
We know where fatty will be tomorrow
2019 Jul 4
units: slices
Watermelon Eating Contest [Link]
Vogel State Park http://explore.gastateparks.org/info/222334?c=16534104
Blairsville, GA
https://bestthingsga.com/event/july-4th-celebration-2019-07-04-blairsville-ga.html
Hey asshole....the DC mall has a big party every year with music,
Triggering fatty into apoplectic episode of incoherent gibberish.
Mission Accomplished!!!
CHT exactly
Roger has always had college degree Envy.
"Roger envies my college degree
Denny envies my wife
James envies my ability to write"
Roger has for years envied my wealth.
Socialist Democrats view of America.
"We’re not going to make America great again. It was never that great,”
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