Trump goes to China to talk shop. Within days Donald Jr gets a billion dollar investment from the Chinese Government to help with a private business. Later, when Trump is in Ukraine, he pressures them to fire a Prosecutor who just happens to be investigating Donald Jr's company as well as a company run by the Koch brothers. Trump brags on video that he threatened to withhold a billion dollars in aid, and his audience laughs when he tells them that the Ukrainian President followed suit and fired the guy.
Now imagine that more specifics regarding this incident was provided to members of Congress by representatives of the Ukrainian Government. Imagine that Congress decided to possibly work with Ukraine on investigating whether or not Trump and his Administration was trying to squelch an investigation that affected a Trump family member.
Now imagine that the Trump administration and the media accused them of "conspiring with a foreign government to dig up dirt on the President". Imagine that these accusations went all the way to the idea that these members of Congress are should be impeached for "election interference". Imagine the idea that these members of Congress should be impeached just for the mere discussion of investigating something that looks obvious to everyone to be an unethical and corrupt action.
Nobody in their right mind would accept that sort of nonsense. Everyone would demand that Congress look into even the slightest idea that Trump did something wrong. The fact that the investigation would involve a foreign government or have a negative effect on Trump's reelection chances, would not matter one bit.
But you look at it the other way around, then suddenly the logic is that the original behavior is not at issue. Whether or not American politicians used their power to spur foreign investment or squelch foreign investigations is no longer important. The only thing that is important is that such an investigation might harm a Democrat who is running for President, and therefore it becomes "election interference".
Only someone badly infected with TDS would be able to intellectually sort this clusterflick out.
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On Monday, President Trump unequivocally denied he threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine in order to pressure the country into investigating former Vice President Joe Biden’s son.
But the Washington Post reported late Monday evening that Trump did, in fact, order his acting chief of staff to hold hundreds of millions in military funds from Ukraine about a week before he had the now-infamous phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
According to three senior administration officials who spoke to the Post, officials at the Office of Management and Budget told the State Department and the Defense Department in mid-July that Trump had “concerns” about handing over the nearly $400 million and wanted to further review the spending. The White House finally doled out the $400 million on Sept. 11, but not before telling Congress the delay was due to an “interagency process,” according to the Post.
The Prosecutor was a member of the previous regime and was corrupt. He is no longer a member of the Ukrainian government.
There was an investigation, since then and no dirt was found.
If the prosecutor was corrupt, then that would have been up to the Ukrainian Government to make that determination. Why would Americans care what a Ukrainian prosecutor does or doesn't do? Nobody really believes that we cared about one Prosecutor just "because he was corrupt".
Do you think in a million years that our Government would ever allow a foreign leader to tell us who in our own government should be or shouldn't be fired? The idea is simply silly. But of course, you are willing to accept "silly" as an explanation (since there is actually no good one).
The funny thing here Roger is that you are also not only willing to believe the unbelievable.. but also willing to believe that the fact that this prosecutor was investigating companies associated with both Hunter Biden and George Soros to be just a random coincidence.
Sure Roger...
"Man CH is beating Roger like a rented mule.
TDS is a terrible thing." 😂 CS
Roger when will you be putting on display your Self Proclaimed High IQ?
House Democrats Lead by The Squatters are meeting to begin, the beginning of kinda the END of the beginning of Impeachment, maybe.
A nothing burger.
The story behind Biden's son, Ukraine and Trump's claims
By STEPHEN BRAUN and LYNN BERRY
Yesterday
WASHINGTON (AP) — In 2014, then-Vice President Joe Biden was at the forefront of American diplomatic efforts to support Ukraine's fragile democratic government as it sought to fend off Russian aggression and root out corruption. So it raised eyebrows when Biden's son Hunter was hired by a Ukrainian gas company.
The Obama White House said at the time that there was no conflict because the younger Biden was a private citizen. And there's been no evidence of wrongdoing by either Biden.
Yet the matter is back in the spotlight following revelations that President Donald Trump prodded Ukraine's president to help him investigate any corruption related to Joe Biden, now one of the top Democrats seeking to defeat Trump in 2020. Trump's private lawyer Rudy Giuliani has also publicly urged Ukrainian officials to investigate the Bidens.
Hunter Biden was named a paid board member of Burisma Holdings in April 2014. The company's founder was a political ally of Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine's Russia-friendly president, who was driven out in February 2014 by mass protests.
Yanukovych's ouster prompted the Obama administration to move quickly to deepen ties with Ukraine's new government. Joe Biden played a leading role, traveling to Ukraine and speaking frequently with its new Western-friendly president.
The younger Biden's business role raised concerns among anticorruption advocates that Burisma was seeking to gain influence with the Obama administration. At the time, the company ran a natural gas extraction operation in Crimea, a Ukrainian peninsula annexed by Russia after Yanukovych was pushed from power.
Hunter Biden has denied using his influence with his father to aid Burisma. He remained on the board through early 2019, often appearing at energy-related conferences abroad representing Burisma's interests.
On Saturday, the former vice president said he never speaks to his son about his overseas business dealings.
The matter, however, has continued to be questioned by Trump and his allies. They've pointed in particular to Biden's move in March 2016 to pressure the Ukrainian government to fire its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had previously led an investigation into Burisma's owner.
Biden was representing the official position of the U.S. government, a position that was also supported by other Western governments and many in Ukraine, who accused Shokin of being soft on corruption. His successor found no evidence of corruption.
Corruption has continued to fester in Ukraine. In May, the country's new president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, came into office with no political experience but with bold promises to put an end to the corrupt practices.
Around this time, Giuliani began reaching out to Zelenskiy and his aides to press for a government investigation into Burisma and Hunter Biden's role with the company.
In a Fox News interview on May 19, Trump claimed the former Ukrainian prosecutor "was after" Joe Biden's son and that was why the former vice president demanded he be fired. There is no evidence of this.
Ukraine's current prosecutor, Yuriy Lutsenko, was quoted by Bloomberg News in May as saying he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden or his son. Bloomberg also reported that the investigation into Burisma was dormant at the time Biden pressed for Shokhin's ouster.
The new President of Ukraine has found nothing to support your allegations against the vice President Biden and his son
Your "logic" is evidence of Trumpism stage four brain cancer.
The story behind Biden's son, Ukraine and Trump's claims
https://apnews.com/9d4595ba4f3140c6bb6a3473a91f4a4c
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Only someone badly infected with Trumpism stage four would be able to intellectually believe this was not an attempt to bribe the government of Ukraine to get dirt on Vice President Biden.
The thing is VP Biden told a friendly group the HE withheld the 1.2 Billion in exchange for the Firing and Protection FOR CokeHead Hunter Biden .
He openly admitted collusion with a foreign nation.
And you don't give a flying fuck.
Panel Of Third Graders To Dictate Nation's Climate Change Policy
WASHINGTON, D.C.—At a panel on climate change held yesterday, the Senate brought in a group of excited third graders for ideas on fighting climate change.
"These kids have ideas and they are passionate, so we must listen to them," said Sen. Brian Schatz of Hawaii. "There are no possible downsides to taking kids who have been told the world is ending by the public school system and allowing them to dictate national policies on important issues."
The kids came up with the following list so far, though they say they're "just spitballing" and the ideas need some fleshing out:
*Bribing the climate with cookies and candy
*Putting the climate on time-out
*Just ignoring climate change and playing Fortnite
*Building a giant magnet and sucking up all the bad climate stuff
*Buying a Nintendo Switch for every person in the nation (so they'll stay inside and play Nintendo instead of driving cars)
*Making a big freeze ray gun like in Despicable Me and shooting the climate
*Pointing and laughing at cows who fart so they'll be embarrassed and stop farting
*Hey do you guys want to play some Minecraft? This is boring.
"It's incredibly brave for these kids to volunteer to take over our government's climate change policies," said Schatz as the panel convened for its seventh Fortnite break of the morning. "I'm not sure why we didn't think of this before."
The kids will also be asked to make policies on bedtime, homework, and candy.
He just said that he withheld the funding because we are the only country supporting Ukrain.
It's a Witch Hunt to bring down the best President ever elected.
The European union has contributed billions to Ukraine to support its government from the Russians.
You have your marching orders Scott.
Responding to those allegations, White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said on Monday night that the "allegations are completely false, but because the media wants this story to be true so badly, they'll once again manufacture a frenzy and drive ignorant, fake stories to attack this president."
Well Roger..
The second you tell me that you would support impeachment of Congressional members who decide to use "investigations" as a means to "dig up dirt" and create "election interference" is the day that I will believe that you have a valid complaint.
Otherwise, it's just another round of hypocrisy.
You are simply willing to take whatever garbage explanation from the media on the original Biden issue (as if it is the gospel truth) even though we both know it doesn't pass any smell test.
I would love to see any "evidence" that any other "western" leaders were strong arming the Ukrainian President to fire a prosecutor. Because while the media continues to parrot such an explanation, they actually provide no proof of it.
Just like they ignore the FACT that the Ukrainian government is standing with the President and denying that there was any pressure, any terms, or any talk of withholding funding over an investigation.
If you refuse to take "facts" at face value Roger... and rather accept poorly thought out innuendo from the media instead.
Then you have no credibility.
Fox News apologized on Monday after a guest on the network attacked 16-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg as a “mentally ill Swedish child.”
The comments by Michael Knowles of the Daily Wire, who appeared on “The Story,” came hours after Thunberg delivered an emotional speech at the United Nations berating world leaders for failing to act on climate change.
But Knowles didn’t see an impassioned young activist fighting for her planet.
Instead, he repeatedly called Thunberg “mentally ill” and claimed she was “being exploited by her parents and by the international left.”
Democratic commentator Chris Hahn, also on the show, immediately called him out for it.
“You’re a grown man and you’re attacking a child,” he said. “Shame on you.”
Knowles replied: “I’m not. I’m attacking the left for exploiting a mentally ill child.”
But Hahn didn’t let it slide.
“Relax, skinny boy, I got this, OK? You’re attacking a child,” he said. “You’re a grown man. Have some couthe.”
Knowles cut in with a verbatim repetition of his attack: “I’m not. I’m attacking the left for exploiting a mentally ill child.”
Then, Hahn let loose:
“Maybe on your podcast you can get away and say whatever you want because nobody’s listening. You’re on national television. Be a grown-up when you’re talking about children. She’s trying to save the planet because your president doesn’t believe in climate change and kids need to take to the streets to worry about their future.”
Hahn called Knowles “despicable” and demanded that he apologize.
Knowles instead said she has “many mental illnesses.”
He did not apologize, but Fox News did.
“The comment made by Michael Knowles who was a guest on ‘The Story’ tonight was disgraceful,” a network spokesperson said. “We apologize to Greta Thunberg and to our viewers.”
The spokesperson added that there were “no plans to book Knowles again.”
Thunberg has Asperger syndrome, which is a developmental disorder on the autism spectrum, not a mental illness, but it has been used as a right-wing talking point to attack the young activist.
Last month, she said that “many ignorant people still see it as an ‘illness’” and instead called Asperger’s a “superpower,” writing:
✔
@GretaThunberg
When haters go after your looks and differences, it means they have nowhere left to go. And then you know you’re winning!
I have Aspergers and that means I’m sometimes a bit different from the norm. And - given the right circumstances- being different is a superpower.#aspiepower
Advocates from within the autism community also hit back at Knowles.
“Certainly some might disagree with Ms. Thunberg on policy issues, but it is shameful to issue a derogatory statement to a youth advocate,” the Autism Society told The Hollywood Reporter in a statement.
Just like they ignore the FACT that the Ukrainian government is standing
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Seems to me their statement is as hollow as yours, Lil Scotty.......They also said there was nothing factual about the bidens.....which you don't believe.....so what is it you hypocrite??????
WHERE IS THAT TRANSCRIPT OF FRUMP'S CONVERSATION, CH? HE ASSURES US NOTHING WAS SAID THAT WAS WRONG. SO WHY DOES HE NOT RELEASE IT?
COULD IT BE FOR THE SAME REASON HE DOES NOT RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS EVEN THOUGH THE IRS SAYS THAT HIS CLAIM THAT CAN'T BECAUSE HE'S BEING AUDITED IS PATENTLY UNTRUE.
The New York Post
WASHINGTON – Ukraine’s top prosecutor said he hasn’t seen any evidence of wrongdoing by former Vice President Joe Biden nor his son Hunter Biden in dealings with the country.
Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko said Hunter Biden and Burisma, a Ukrainian private gas company of which the younger Biden served on the board, were not the targets of investigations by his office.
He also said the former vice president, and current Democratic 2020 hopeful, didn’t act improperly when he called for the dismissal of Ukraine’s former prosecutor general, Victor Shoki, who had been investigating the company.
“I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections,” Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. “Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws – at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board.”
President Trump’s allies – including Donald Trump Jr. – have suggested the Bidens acted inappropriately. The president’s outside lawyer, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, had threatened to travel to Ukraine to investigate things on his own, but has since canceled those plans.
“All the reports indicated that not a single, solitary thing was inappropriate about what my son did,” Biden told WMUR in an interview this week.
https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/
https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/
You believe in the deep state conspiracy theory and thereof you have no credibility.
Senior Ukrainian officials told The New York Times they were blindsided when they discovered that the U.S. wasn’t releasing military aid this past summer. “It was a total surprise,” Pavlo Klimkin, Ukraine’s foreign minister at the time, told the Times when he learned that the aid was blocked with no explanation. A July 25 phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelenskyy in which the two leaders discussed investigating former Vice President Joe Biden’s son has put fresh scrutiny on the decision to put a hold on military support from Washington in early July. Speculation is growing over whether Trump manipulated foreign policy for his own political gain by withholding the security assistance to attempt to tarnish a family member of his potential 2020 rival. Hunter Biden had business dealings in Ukraine while his father, then the vice president, was tapped to oversee American policy toward Ukraine and has never been found to have any wrongdoing in his position
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraine-officials-were-blindsided-when-us-military-aid-was-withheld-after-trump-call-report
This is beginning to look like 1974.
That's it. When you're unable to counter argue the coldheartedtruth, just start loading the thread up with pasted opinions of others.
The thread hypothetical is spot on.
What a beautiful morning
Made even more enjoyable by the screaming desperation of the crooked left.
Wonderful !!!
No it's looking more like 1971.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/09/24/more-dems-back-impeachment-amid-new-ukraine-revelations/23818826/
Take this video and cram it down your gullets.
My, my, conduct so unbecoming of a "pastor"
ROFLMFAO !!!
@catturd2
Maybe Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden should switch dentures to see if they fit better.
Joe Biden claims he never discussed Ukraine with Hunter. New Yorker reports that Hunter say they did.
Oops. Clearly the media wants a twofer, eliminate both Trump and Biden with this to they can move ahead with someone more socialist.
1972 election all over again.
@thebradfordfile
2016: The walls are closing in!
2017: The walls are closing in!
2018: The walls are closing in!
2019: The walls are closing in!
2020: TRUMP WINS AGAIN!
They have no idea it's coming.
MY, THIS CONDUCT IS SO UNBECOMING A PRESIDENT
NYR Analysis: Instead of ‘No Collusion!’ Trump Now Seems to Be Saying, So What if I Did?
45 minutes ago
WASHINGTON — The last time he was accused of collaborating with a foreign power to influence an election, he denied it and traveled the country practically chanting, “No collusion!” This time, he is saying, in effect, so what if I did?
President Trump’s appeal to a foreign power for dirt on former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. is an astonishing breach of the norms governing the American presidency.
Even for a leader who has audaciously disregarded many of the boundaries that restrained his predecessors, President Trump’s appeal to a foreign power for dirt on former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. is an astonishing breach of the norms governing the American presidency.
That his phone call with Ukraine’s leader took place literally the day after the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III testified to Congress about Russian interference in the 2016 election demonstrated that Mr. Trump took no lessons from that episode about the perils and propriety of mixing his own political interests with international relations.
If anything, the president has grown even more defiant since Mr. Mueller found insufficient evidence to establish a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, almost as if having avoided charges, he is daring the establishment to come after him again. The man who once said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan without consequence seems to be testing whether he can do the political equivalent.
“What he’s learned is you can get away with just about anything if you’re willing to gamble and you have zero shame,” said Gwenda Blair, a biographer of the Trump family. “He had just outbluffed the old-school way of holding people to account, so what the heck, why not go for it in the phone call to the new, young and vulnerable Ukrainian president?”
Mr. Trump has openly acknowledged raising the topic of Mr. Biden during a July 25 phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine in which he urged the newly inaugurated government to crack down on corruption. While Mr. Trump denied applying pressure to investigate Mr. Biden, he said it would “have been O.K. if I did.”
Likewise, he said that he did not threaten during the call to cut off security aid if Ukraine failed to investigate Mr. Biden. But he also did not explain why he blocked the aid, and he quickly added that “we’re giving a lot of money away to Ukraine” and it was legitimate to want to ensure that an aid recipient was “going completely to be not corrupt.”
In speaking with reporters while in New York for the annual United Nations General Assembly, Mr. Trump was in a combative mood on Monday, brimming with hyperbole and invective, at one point even casually saying that if Republicans had done what Mr. Biden had done, “they’d be getting the electric chair right now.”
Mr. Trump scored his lawyer’s rambling and confusing appearance on a CNN show last week like a boxing match. “Rudy Giuliani took Fredo to the cleaners,” he said, using a derogatory nickname for the show’s host, Chris Cuomo. And the president excoriated reporters in the room with him. “You are crooked as hell,” he charged.
NO, SIR, YOU ARE CROOKED AS HELL, AND THE PRESS IS ONE WAY WE THE PEOPLE HAVE OF HOLDING YOU TO ACCOUNT.
Myballs said...
Joe Biden claims he never discussed Ukraine with Hunter. New Yorker reports that Hunter say they did.
Did they get Corn Pop to comment ?
Better yet to have a rematch with Biden before the next debate.
PPV Gold. All proceeds to anti-bullying campaign of course.
Mr. Giuliani has been Mr. Trump’s point person in pushing Ukraine for an investigation, and in recent days, he has thrown out a dizzying series of allegations and conspiracy theories about the country involving Hillary Clinton, George Soros and others plotting to take down Mr. Trump in 2016.
But now it is Mr. Trump whose intervention with Ukraine is at issue, and whether it constitutes an abuse of power will fall to Congress to decide. After bulldozing past so many other controversies, Mr. Trump has now exposed himself to a greater risk of impeachment in the House than ever before, even if conviction in the Senate remains a remote possibility.
Mr. Trump has openly acknowledged raising Mr. Biden during a July 25 phone call with the leader of Ukraine.
“I do regard this as a transgression by the president even more egregious and dangerous, and even more clearly calling for impeachment, than the many that have come before it,” said Laurence H. Tribe, the Harvard law professor and an author of “To End a Presidency,” a book on impeachment.
“It’s difficult to imagine a purer example, even on the president’s own account of his conduct, of why the Constitution’s framers thought it essential to include the impeachment power,” he added.
Richard Ben-Veniste, a former Watergate prosecutor, said that if reports about the president’s actions were accurate, it would be “the latest and perhaps most disturbing example in a series of actions that display a profound disregard for presidential norms by this president.”
Plenty of questions remain unanswered, and Congress will now press for more information, particularly the release of a transcript of the call with Mr. Zelensky as well as the complaint filed by an American government whistle-blower raising alarms. A clear focus of the inquiry will be the blocked aid.
Some critics said it did not even matter if Mr. Trump explicitly linked the two issues in the call; simply using the power and prestige of his office to lean on a foreign leader for help in a domestic political contest by itself could justify impeachment, they said. And suspending the aid, they said, appeared to be a corrupt exercise of presidential power to benefit himself, whether he mentioned it to Mr. Zelensky or not.
But Mr. Trump’s defenders said he was being targeted for partisan and political reasons, his every move interpreted in the most cynical light and distorted to tarnish his reputation, while adversaries like Mr. Biden are given a free pass.
The United States “routinely pushes foreign countries to launch broad anti-corruption initiatives as well as to undertake criminal investigations or prosecutions of specific persons, both Americans and foreigners,” said David B. Rivkin Jr., a lawyer in the administrations of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush.
“And we routinely back up such requests with threats and blandishments,” he added. “So, political issues aside, there is nothing inherently unusual about Trump’s request to Zelensky.”
Mr. Trump and his allies argue that Mr. Biden is the one who abused his power when he was vice president by threatening to hold up $1 billion in American loan guarantees to Ukraine unless it fired its chief prosecutor. At the time, his younger son, Hunter Biden, worked for a Ukrainian oligarch who had come under scrutiny by the prosecutor.
The ouster of the Ukrainian prosecutor, who was widely believed to be turning a blind eye to rampant corruption, was the consensus position of the Obama administration as well as European governments and international institutions at the time. No evidence has emerged to indicate that Mr. Biden acted to protect his son. However unseemly it might be for a family member to appear to cash in on the vice president’s name, no authorities in either country have alleged illegality by either Biden.
Anthony Scaramucci, who served briefly as White House communications director but has now broken with the president, said Mr. Trump was not interested in corruption but re-election. “He is going after Biden hard because he knows Biden destroys him in a general election, and so he will do and say anything to anybody to knock him out now,” Mr. Scaramucci said.
“Rudy Giuliani took Fredo to the cleaners,” he said, about the show’s host, Chris Cuomo. And the president excoriated reporters in the room with him. “You are crooked as hell,” he charged.
FACT CHECK - TRUE
The furor that has developed in recent days will force the White House, Congress, the Justice Department, the intelligence agencies and perhaps even the courts to confront once again the question of where the lines of political standards are drawn and whether Mr. Trump crossed over them.
In more than two years in office, Mr. Trump has kept his properties, which do business with the federal government and foreign officials, and has even proposed hosting next year’s Group of 7 summit at his Doral resort in Florida. He has repeatedly called on the Justice Department to investigate his political rivals, and he fired an attorney general who he complained did not protect him from Mr. Mueller. The president has even sought the repudiation of weather forecasters who contradicted his hurricane prediction.
In recent days, his lawyers have asserted that not only can Mr. Trump not be indicted while serving as president, he cannot even be criminally investigated, a far more sweeping claim of immunity than ever found by courts. And Mr. Trump has made clear he sees no problem in accepting derogatory information from foreign governments, saying, “I’d take it,” even after the Mueller report.
That leaves the impression with allies and adversaries alike that Mr. Trump is focused on his own interests. “The president will say and do anything for his own personal pursuits and not for the benefit of the country,” said Heather A. Conley, the director of the Europe program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
All of which, she said, has damaged the notion of America as a “shining city on a hill,” as Mr. Reagan put it, the country that would stand for principle, even if it did not always live up to that aspiration. Now, she said, millions of people around the world “have now learned that the city is for sale, not unlike other kleptocratic regimes.”
@thebradfordfile
Chelsea Clinton is probably the only person in America who thinks Hunter Biden is qualified to give advice to a Ukrainian gas giant. She was on the board of directors at Expedia before she knew how to book a flight.
@BuckSexton
just wait: when enough people catch on to how gross it is that Hunter Biden was pulling down $50,000 a month from Ukraine while his dad was Obama's policy point man there-
the brave journos will pretend a random diplomat buying a cheeseburger at Trump Hotel is the same thing
Trump confirms he withheld military aid from Ukrfaine, says he wants other countries to help pay
Washington Post Staff 17 mins ago
President Trump was pressed by reporters as to why he blocked aid a week before his call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
“But very importantly, Germany, France, other countries should put up money, and that’s been my complaint from the beginning,” Trump said.
The Washington Post reported Monday that Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the son of former vice president Joe Biden, according to three senior administration officials.
This is a developing story. It will be updated.
@jeffrygc
“The unprecedented investigation into an American presidential campaign at either the behest or approval of Barack Obama and with the help of numerous foreign entities is the most norm-breaking act in modern political history.”
Biden’s Real Foreign Election Interference: Russiagate
It looks as though Joe Biden is about to bumble and babble and bluster his way to a third failed run for president. Even before President Trump took aim at Hunter Biden for his shady financial ties to the Ukraine while his father was vice president, Biden was struggling with basic facts and weird stories about confronting a disobedient black teen with a chain in the 1960s.
Now it looks like Biden might be forced to answer serious questions about how his children capitalized on the former vice president’s international political connections and how Biden himself ran interference when his family’s grift was jeopardized.
continues:
https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/23/bidens-real-foreign-election-interference-russiagate/
Trump Dismisses Calls to Impeach Him
September 24, 2019 at 10:20 am EDT
President Trump scoffed at the mounting calls for impeachment proceedings from House Democrats as he faces increasing scrutiny for his interactions with Ukraine, The Hill reports.
Said Trump: “I think it’s ridiculous. It’s a witch hunt. I’m leading in the polls. They have no idea how they stop me the only way they can try is through impeachment.”
He added: “It’s nonsense, and when you see the call, when you see the readout of the call, which I assume you’ll see at some point, you’ll understand. That call was perfect.”
LIAR IN CHIEF, WHY DO YOU 'ASSUME' WE WILL SEE IT? WHY HAVEN'T WE ALREADY SEEN IT? IS IT BECAUSE YOUR CRONIES ARE BUSY ALTERING IT?
AND GUESS WHAT? YOU ARE NOT LEADING IN THE POLLS. THAT'S WHY YOU STUPIDLY WENT AFTER BIDEN.
@julie_kelly2
The Left and NeverTrump now want to impeach Trump on the word of an unknown whistleblower based on a conversation they haven’t heard and US aid that was briefly withheld for legit reasons then released. All in service of protecting Joe Biden and his grifter son. Solid plan
ROFMLFAO !!!
@Shem_Infinite
Wow.
The absolute morons on the left are tripling down on a fake Ukrainian scandal and are, for the tenth time in a week, about to be mocked relentlessly when it all blows up in their faces again.
and even more ROFLMFAO !!!
The Best Argument Against Impeachment No Longer Holds
Zack Beauchamp: “The most compelling argument against impeachment, to my mind, was that it wouldn’t really accomplish anything.”
“There’s a virtual guarantee that impeachment will fail in the Republican-controlled Senate, which means there’s no real chance of actually removing Trump from office. Public opinion about the Russia scandal became more set along partisan lines as time went on, making it unlikely that drawing attention to it would galvanize public opinion against the Trump presidency in 2020. Why risk distracting Democrats from the issues on which Trump is genuinely unpopular, and jeopardizing the House Democratic majority, when the gains were so marginal?”
“This seems to be something like the reasoning that has guided Pelosi’s stolid opposition to impeachment. It’s not obviously correct, but it’s a serious argument — and one that pro-impeachment Democrats and commentators dismissed too easily.”
“The new Ukraine scandal challenges this logic. There is now an obvious and immediate pragmatic upside to impeachment: stopping an ongoing abuse of presidential power that could undermine the integrity of the 2020 election.”
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOT RID OF A NIXON WHO WOULD DO ANYTHING TO HOLD ON TO POWER. TIME TO DO IT AGAIN.
@julie_kelly2
My piece today:
“Biden thus far has escaped any inquiry about his role in legitimate election interference: The Trump-Russia collusion hoax, manufactured by the Obama Administration with the help of foreign agencies, diplomats and operatives.”
Biden’s Real Foreign Election Interference: Russiagate
https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/23/bidens-real-foreign-election-interference-russiagate/
“Has Pelosi been emulating O’Neill [regarding holding off on Nixon till the time was right]? She’s been taking plenty of heat from pro-impeachment Democrats. She’s certainly been unwilling to get ahead of her caucus. Perhaps that’s because she thinks impeachment could be avoided. OR PERHAPS SHE'S BEEN BETTING THAT TRUMP'S PAST AND CURRENT LAWLESSNESS WOULD KEEP SUPPLYING NEW EVIDENCE..."
BINGO.
@Rockprincess818
Wow!! 53% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
the more the left talks about impeachment and uses little kids as political props the higher TRUMP’s approval ratings get. It’s like magic.
Crush the Left
53-45 !!! keep it up "pastor"
ROFLMFAO !!!
Or as the "pastor" says
BINGO !!!
ROFLMFAO !!!
Well Roger...
Let's just take the Ukrainians at their word and declare that neither HUNTER Biden or Trump did anything wrong!
But if your problem seems to be the idea of withholding funds to pressure a foreign government, then JOE Biden is still on video admitting to doing as much.
So Trump is innocent
Hunter is innocent
Joe... well not so much.
Pedophile no one reads your spam
Cali, Exactly.
"Man CH is beating Roger like a rented mule.
TDS is a terrible thing." 😂 CS
it continues
LOL I laughed the other day when telling some people about this blog and Cali's pedophile mania.* I laugh now as I write, never having been sexually attracted to little girls, much less little boys.
*But has Cali stopped watching girl on girl porno yet?
DO NOT READ THIS
House Barrels Toward Impeachment
“House Democrats hurtled on Tuesday toward a consequential set of decisions about the potential impeachment of President Trump, weighing a course that could reshape his presidency amid starting allegations that he sought to enlist a foreign power to aid him politically,” the New York Times reports.
“Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has stubbornly resisted a rush to impeachment, appeared to be rapidly changing course, as lawmakers from every corner of her caucus lined up in favor of filing formal charges against Mr. Trump if the allegations are proven true, or if his administration continues to stonewall attempts by Congress to investigate them.
“Ms. Pelosi planned a meeting Tuesday afternoon to coordinate strategy with the six committee chairmen who have led the investigations of Mr. Trump, followed by a broader closed-door meeting of all of the chamber’s Democrats to brief them and gauge their mood in light of the changed circumstances.”
The current President of the United States has withheld millions from Ukraine, that it needed to protect itself from the Russians.
It was purely in his self interests, and is collusion with a foreign nation to get dirt. The founding fathers were aware that foreign governments should not have any influence on our elections.
Donald Trump has solicited dirt on his opponent.
That's what matters.
You will just follow orders!
President Donald Trump on Tuesday shifted his explanation for temporarily withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine, citing what he criticized as a lack of similar financial contribution by other Western powers to the Eastern European nation.
Trump’s latest remarks are at odds with his assertion Monday that he denied the assistance because he feared bureaucratic corruption within Ukraine’s government. The new claim also comes after weekend reports that he repeatedly pressured newly elected Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky during a July phone call to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden’s son.
Seig Heil Mr. Trump
@julie_kelly2
Another backfire: Most Americans - why are we giving Ukraine $400M in aid?
Dummies
@akarl_smith
A senior aide to a House Democrat told me 20 to 30 or more Democrats may announce support for impeachment action today.
Byron York Retweeted Allan Smith
Dems rushing forward in absence of information about what actually happened. Lesson of Russiagate: Strike now. Don't wait for investigation; could just complicate things. http://ow.ly/OG5R30pBaw0
FACTS ??? We don't need no stinking FACTS.
@thebradfordfile
Declassification must be coming.
THEY ARE SCARED...
(speaking of democrats)
The current President of the United States has withheld millions from Ukraine, that it needed to protect itself from the Russians.
Factually incorrect.
The President has provided all of the funds. There is nothing being withheld. The Ukrainian Government has stated for the record that none of the funding was ever threatened or otherwise held back on any conditions provided by the White House.
Until you acknowledge this fact...
Nothing you write or C&P will matter!
@julie_kelly2
Biden is holding a presser this afternoon—here are a few questions for Joe:
Which foreign governments monitored the Trump campaign?
What foreign Intel did you discuss during your secret meetings with Brennan in 2016?
When did you see the Steele dossier?
I only have so much popcorn but still would be great if Corn Pop shows up.
Or even a Corn Pop mascot
@jeffrygc
“The unprecedented investigation into an American presidential campaign at either the behest or approval of Barack Obama and with the help of numerous foreign entities is the most norm-breaking act in modern political history.”
maybe Biden's presser is to drop out. After all as his best buddy says at some point you have enough money. Even if he won't endorse him.
Menstra said last week that this would have disappeared from the news.
The President has provided all of the funds after the phone call and under pressure from the Congress.
He used the funds in an attempt to get dirt, from a foreign nation, and influence our sacred right to vote.
That's unacceptable behavior from the President of the United States.
You are lying but it is all you have left.
"The Ukrainian Government has stated for the record that none of the funding was ever threatened or otherwise held back on any conditions provided by the White House."
They don't disagree with the timeline. He had withheld millions in order to pressure them into investigating Biden, but what you leave out, is the fact that the Ukrainian government had already investigated them and found nothing wrong.
How would you know? Biden force them to fire the investigating prosecutor.
They don't disagree with the timeline.
So... they disagree with the wild conspiracy theory media driven conclusion!
Ukrainian government had already investigated them and found nothing wrong.
Well the prosecutor who worked on the case (Sergiy Gorbatyuk) states that the Prosecutor General dropped the probe in midstream and closed it down "illegally".
But of course, Gorbatyuk hasn't yet noticed that you repeated this here (and in bold print). I am sure once he sees what you wrote, he will change his mind.
Commonsense said...
How would you know? Biden force them to fire the investigating prosecutor.
apparently roger believes Biden wanted the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor because he found Biden innocent.
and therefore Biden figured he must be incompetent.
lol, yep, that is Roger logic.
this explains Roger.
"Factually incorrect"
no INSANE is what describes Roger
Speaking of INSANE
Ryan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra
Democrat Rep. Rashida Tlaib (MI): “Scientists [say] secondhand smoking is worse than directly smoking cigarettes”
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1176561010963968000
hey a teenager and a bar tender are lefts climate experts
caliphate4vr said...
hey a teenager and a bar tender
And you remain a trump slurper.....at least they have brains.....BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
those little girls have been traumatized into believing they earth ends in 10 years.
Biden, Obama, Merkel, The IMF, Macron,May all wanted to get rid of the crooked prosecutor in the Ukraine.......sorry cramps, you are full of shit again!!!!!!!
And the goat fucking denier burns wood to heat his hovel.......BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
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