Thursday, September 26, 2019

Now I have heard everything?

I read that the President engaged in an "illegal solicitation of an investigation" stated as if that was actually a real crime. Now let's forget for a second that such a crime doesn't actually exist on any statute anywhere.  Even if it did (and it doesn't) it most certainly would not and could not apply to people who actually (by definition of their job) have authority and responsibility to make determinations on investigations. Which most certainly the President of the United States has.

But let's imagine that such a fake statute actually "did" exist. What would make the solicitation of an investigation illegal? Certainly the investigation would first have be found to be completely unwarranted. People who have committed crimes or otherwise put themselves into positions to be investigated by their own actions, have no legal recourse to challenge the premise of an investigation. They (based on certain due process) are allowed to challenge the means of the investigation and to expect that their constitutional rights are respected.

But if you are suspected of breaking the law, and there is legitimate cause to investigate, then there can be nothing "illegal" about such an investigation.

So would the argument be that the situation in the Ukraine with Hunter Biden not be a valid investigation? Certainly at one time there were prosecutors and investigators who believed that there was something there. According to the actual investigator of that case, he was pulled off the case by the new Prosecutor (approved by the Obama administration) and the case was never reassigned. The new President of Ukraine seems to believe that there was a cover up of this situation and claims to want to get to the bottom of it.

To be completely blunt. The MSM suggesting that the case was investigated and closed is a blatant crock of shit lie. It has no basis other than the original statement provided by the people who ended the investigation. Seriously, if we simply accept the excuse of everyone who is accused of wrongdoing, then we would never find a single person guilty of anything. Not sure exactly how brain dead you would have to be to take those statements at face value.

But let's compare apples to oranges here and ask ourselves the question of the day. If fundamentally unwarranted investigations driven by political (not legal) goals would be considered illegal, then how many of the current investigations into the President (who is also a political candidate just like Biden) would be also illegal? Given that the President cannot be charged with a crime and given that the idea of impeachment is completely pointless. Given that he has been exonerated of the Russian Conspiracy allegations by at least three Congressional and one Special Counsel investigation. Given that none of the investigations have found any actual law breaking by the President. Then it's 100% entirely clear that each and every one of the investigations into the President is politically motivated.

Doesn't that make them all "illegal" based on the same standards that apply to declaring the Hunter Biden Burisma Holdings investigation to be illegal?

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

To be completely blunt, Lil Scotty....I did not read your POS post other than the header.....The shit is hitting the fan and some R's like Sasse know the game is over!!!!! Keep slurping because when the complaint comes out, there will be no turning back!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Rep. says whistleblower complaint is 'deeply disturbing'
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Whistleblower's complaint is out
By Meg Wagner and Amanda Wills, CNN

Updated 9:01 a.m. ET, September 26, 2019
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What we know so far
Whistleblower's complaint is out: It has been declassified and was just released. We are going through it now.
9 a.m. ET: Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire is set to testify before the House Intelligence Committee.

4 min ago
Whistleblower said Trump instructed Vice President Pence to cancel plans to travel to Ukraine
From CNN's David Shortell

The whistleblower says he or she learned from US officials that President Trump instructed Vice President Mike Pence to cancel planned travel to Ukraine to attend President Volodymyr Zelensky's inauguration in May.

Instead he sent Secretary of Energy Rick Perry to lead the delegation, according to the declassified complaint.

The whistleblower also said he or she learned from the US officials that Trump did not want to meet himself with Zelensky until Trump saw how Zelensky "chose to act" in office, the complaint says.


9 min ago
Whistleblower said White House officials intervened to "lock down" records of July 25 call
From CNN's Tammy Kupperman and Mike Callahan

In the days following the July phone call, the whistleblower learned from multiple US officials that senior White House officials had intervened to “lock down: all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced as is customary by the White House Situation Room. This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.”

The whistleblower continued:

“White House officials told me that they were “directed” by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript from the computer system in which such transcripts are typically stored for coordination, finalization, and distribution to Cabinet-level officials.
Instead the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of any especially sensitive nature.

One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/26/congress-releases-whistleblower-complaint-alleging-trump-abused-his-office-1514008

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

"In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election,” the whistleblower wrote in the complaint dated Aug. 12. “This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals. The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph W. Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General (William P.) Barr appears to be involved as well.”

cowardly king obama said...


DISGRUNTLED DEEP STATER with a POLITICAL AGENDA

No real facts to offer other than hearsay and opinions

Last gasp desperation to create a narrative before the FISA IG reports come out.

Democrats, the compliant media and their minions will try and play it up until it collapses.

Must really suck to be a democrat now. Depressing and angry.


Anonymous said...

DISGRUNTLED DEEP STATER with a POLITICAL AGENDA


BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Yeah that's it asshole.....Nunes and you butt fucking buddies!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLO The complaint has legs you dumb fuck....!!!!

cowardly king obama said...

lo iq "anonymous" proves my point and says "BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Yeah that's it asshole.....Nunes and you butt fucking buddies!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLO The complaint has legs you dumb fuck....!!!!

ROFLMFAO at lo iq !!!

daily if not hourly entertainment.

MORE POPCORN PLEAZE !!!

Anonymous said...

Hey dumb fuck......the wheels have come off!!!!!! Why do you hate our country???????