If the the two whistleblowers, whoever they were, reported something that has not been or is not being corroborated by others, their whistleblowing should be totally ignored.
If, on the other hand, the two whistleblowers reported something that has been and is being corroborated by numerous others, including those who tried to hide what was said from the public, then it must have been a valid report, a valid expression of concern, and needs to continue to be looked into.
So far, nothing has been reported that the President didn't release himself in a transcript. The only thing that the witnesses have done is provide their personal opinions on whether or not what the President did was "proper".
I stand with the vast majority of Americans when I suggest I couldn't give a flying fuck what "opinions" are being held by these sort of deep state players.
Another new poll just came out from 17 target battleground states and it's not pretty for the "impeachment" side. Since the impeachment fiasco started:
- Trump's approval has risen in these 17 states - Trump's approval among Republicans has risen - By a five point margin these swing state voters would rather see Biden than Trump investigated. - Biden has taken a 30 point with independents - Voters oppose impeachment by 14 points - Independents oppose by the same basic margin - 70% believe this is "politics" and would prefer Congress concentrate on other things
These targeted state polls are a "nightmare" for the Democrats. They can flood their west and east coast liberal constituents with a whole bunch of red meat, but it's coming at the expense of their credibility everywhere else!!!
Lawyer Moved Transcript AFTER Adviser Raised Alarms
(NOW WHY DID HE DO THAT, CH?--MOVE A HARMLESS TRANSCRIPT OF A "PERFECT" CONVERSATION?) October 30, 2019 at 11:24 pm EDT
“MOMENTS AFTER President Trump ended his phone call with Ukraine’s president on July 25, an unsettled national security aide rushed to the office of White House lawyer John Eisenberg,” the Washington Post reports.
“Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the top Ukraine adviser at the White House, had been listening to the call and was disturbed by the pressure Trump had applied to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate his political rivals.
“Vindman told Eisenberg, the White House’s legal adviser on national security issues, that what the president did was wrong… Scribbling notes on a yellow legal pad, Eisenberg proposed a step that other officials have said is at odds with long-standing White House protocol: moving a transcript of the call to a highly classified server and restricting access to it.”
Democrats Will Have to Subpoena John Bolton October 30, 2019 at 8:19 pm EDT
Wall Street Journal: “The House committees want Mr. Bolton to appear on Nov. 7, a person familiar with the matter said. Mr. Bolton’s attorney, Charles Cooper, informed the committee that his client wouldn’t appear voluntarily as requested. Mr. Cooper said he was ready to receive a subpoena on Mr. Bolton’s behalf at any time.”
SOUNDS LIKE JOHN BOLTON JUST WANTS A LITTLE "COVER" FOR DOING WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO ANYWAY :-)
HOORAY! Obamacare Is Stronger than Ever October 31, 2019 at 5:25 am EDT
Politico: “Three years into a presidency that promised to kill Obamacare, the health care law has never been stronger.
“Millions of people buying coverage during the enrollment period starting Friday will find that average premiums have dropped across the country. When consumers go to HealthCare.gov, they’ll be paying 4 percent less on average for the most popular health plans — with six states reporting a double-digit decline.
“The years of huge rate hikes and insurers abandoning the markets appear to be a thing of the past as the 10th anniversary of the law approaches next spring. Predictions of the Affordable Care Act’s demise — made by President Donald Trump himself and Democrats who criticized administration policies undermining the law — haven’t materialized.” ______________
Will Next Week’s Elections Break the Mold? October 31, 2019 at 5:50 am EDT
Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball: “In an era of political nationalization that is bleeding down the ballot even to state-level races, the best bet in all three states would be to go with partisanship. And that’s where we’re leaning: Our ratings for the gubernatorial races in Kentucky and Mississippi remain Leans Republican and, while we don’t issue ratings for specific state legislative chambers and races, our sense is that the Democrats are better-positioned than Republicans to win both the Virginia House of Delegates and (especially) the Virginia Senate.”
Asked Wednesday if he had any concerns at all in light of recent reports on Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine, Scott said, “There’s lot of things that concern me.”
But he added, “That’s not the question.”
“The question on the table is impeachment and that’s the question we should get an answer to, and the answer so far is ‘For what would we impeach the president?’ And the answer is ‘I don’t see anything for that,’ ” he said.
At the same time, Scott acknowledged there is pressure on Senate Republicans to take any impeachment articles seriously.
“Everybody wants us to do the right thing. In order to do the right thing, we want to see all that there is,” Scott told reporters, explaining that he’s not ready to dismiss the House charges out of hand.
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) said Wednesday that the prospect of a quick vote on a motion to dismiss any articles of impeachment against Trump seems unlikely.
“I certainly think we need to hear it out from the House. This is a serious thing. You’re considering removing somebody from office or impeaching them in that way. I think you got to hear it,” she said.
A Republican senator who requested anonymity to comment on internal party discussions said GOP colleagues are taking the possibility of an impeachment trial seriously as the Democratic-controlled House compiles more evidence.
“We’re all becoming much more aware of the process and that’s because of the situation we’re in with the House,” the senator said, who added of colleagues, “I don’t think they’re going to dismiss it.”
“Right now, based on the facts that we have currently, the president will have the support he needs to get through this,” the senator added, though the lawmaker said there are enough colleagues who feel they owe it to the public to give the articles of impeachment serious consideration.
It’s a more measured tone than Republicans used when the House was considering impeachment
Another came days before, when acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney appeared to confirm at a press conference that military aid was withheld as leverage to push Ukraine to investigate corruption, although he later tried to walk back the statement.
McConnell on Tuesday declined to echo White House language calling the House impeachment probe “illegitimate and unconstitutional.”
Instead, he observed that “impeachment as a practical matter is whatever a majority of the House decides it is at any given moment.”
After Taylor’s damning testimony, Thune admitted to reporters: “The picture coming out of it based on the reporting that we’ve seen is, yeah, I would say not a good one.”
On Wednesday, another blow against the president came when Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan, Trump’s nominee to serve as ambassador to Russia, testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that he was aware of an effort by Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s personal lawyer, to remove Marie Yovanovitch as the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, on Wednesday said it would be “inappropriate” if Giuliani or anyone else spread misinformation to remove a U.S. ambassador.
“I would be concerned if a U.S. ambassador anywhere in the world is the subject of a disinformation campaign directed from abroad or from any interest, for that matter,” he said. “That would be something I wouldn’t be happy about. That would be something I would find to be inappropriate.”
Rubio also said it is important that he and his Senate colleagues carefully weigh the facts compiled by the House investigation.
“It’s important for us to make decisions based on all of the facts taken in context and taken together,” said Rubio, who noted that all of the facts and evidence compiled by House investigators have yet to be shared with the Senate.
Trump Approval Holds Steady October 31, 2019 at 8:41 am EDT
A new AP/NORC poll finds 42% of Americans approve of President Trump’s handling of his job, in line with where he has been throughout his tenure. Just 7% of Democrats have a positive view of Trump as president.
“Trump’s job approval rating and other markers in the survey underscore the deeply divisive nature of his presidency, with Republicans largely favoring his actions and Democrats overwhelmingly disapproving. As Trump eyes his reelection campaign, it suggests his path to victory will hinge on rallying higher turnout among his core supporters as opposed to persuading new voters to back his bid for a second term.
Also interesting: 61% of Americans say Trump has little or no respect for the country’s democratic institutions and traditions. ______________
GOP Anxiety Deepens October 31, 2019 at 8:30 am EDT
“Republican concerns are mounting about President Trump as damaging information piles up regarding his dealings with Ukraine,” The Hill reports.
“The dam is not yet at the bursting point, but anxiety — fueled by the sense that more revelations could emerge at any moment — is rippling through the GOP.
“More discord could burst into public view soon. There are tensions about the White House’s strategy, with the most fervent Trump allies favoring a hard-line approach and others expressing misgivings.” ______________
Most in Pennsylvania Want a New President October 31, 2019 at 7:20 am EDT
A new Franklin & Marshall poll in Pennsylvania finds 37% of registered voters believe President Trump has done a good enough job to deserve re-election, while 59% voters say it is time for a change.
Also interesting: 57% of registered voters in the state support an impeachment inquiry into Trump.
In the Democratic presidential race, Joe Biden leads the field with 30%, followed by Elizabeth Warren at 18%. ________________
GOP Senators Shift Tone on Impeachment October 31, 2019 at 6:46 am EDT
The Hill: “Senate Republicans are taking the House impeachment proceedings against President Trump more seriously as damaging revelations against the president mount and the possibility of a quick dismissal of the charges shrinks.”
At a GOP fundraising event, President Trump reflected on the shooting of House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA) a few years ago...
Trump ... said Scalise’s wife “cried her eyes out when I met her at the hospital that fateful day… I mean not many wives would react that way to tragedy, I know mine wouldn’t.” ___________ Would she have broken into laughter, Donald?
White House official expected to confirm diplomat’s account that Trump appeared to seek quid pro quo.
The Republican strategy is to say "so what?". quid pro quo is just another political decision. But seeking as from a foreign power is unconstitutional.
Scott A**hole doesn't give a shit about the Constitution because of his political bias.
Eric Ciaramella needs to testify under oath. He needs to disclose why he met with a DNC operative who colluded w/ foreign officials to smear Trump in 2016, and why he met w/ representatives of a Clinton Foundation donor who gave up to $25M to the Clintons.
Eric Ciaramella also needs to testify under oath why he invited a rep for Ukrainian oligarch and Clinton Foundation donor Victor Pinchuk to the White House the same day that oligarch’s representative met with Steele dossier leaker David Kramer.
And if, as @RCInvestigates asserts, Eric Ciamarella is the anti-Trump whistleblower, he needs to come clean under oath about his coordination with Adam Schiff and his potentially illegal concealment of that information from the IG. What is he hiding?
So many questions, I'm sure the search for the truth will find the answers.
MWAHAHA! We've got Trump exactly where we want him! We've set him up to run against Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi in 2020 with the actual Democrat nominee looking like their puppet! That will be... oh.
would be nice but I think Nancy will announce her "retirement" before the next election.
20 comments:
He had a part in launching The Russian Hoax too.
If the the two whistleblowers, whoever they were, reported something that has not been or is not being corroborated by others, their whistleblowing should be totally ignored.
If, on the other hand, the two whistleblowers reported something that has been and is being corroborated by numerous others, including those who tried to hide what was said from the public, then it must have been a valid report, a valid expression of concern, and needs to continue to be looked into.
Actually James...
So far, nothing has been reported that the President didn't release himself in a transcript. The only thing that the witnesses have done is provide their personal opinions on whether or not what the President did was "proper".
I stand with the vast majority of Americans when I suggest I couldn't give a flying fuck what "opinions" are being held by these sort of deep state players.
Another new poll just came out from 17 target battleground states and it's not pretty for the "impeachment" side. Since the impeachment fiasco started:
- Trump's approval has risen in these 17 states
- Trump's approval among Republicans has risen
- By a five point margin these swing state voters would rather see Biden than Trump investigated.
- Biden has taken a 30 point with independents
- Voters oppose impeachment by 14 points
- Independents oppose by the same basic margin
- 70% believe this is "politics" and would prefer Congress concentrate on other things
These targeted state polls are a "nightmare" for the Democrats. They can flood their west and east coast liberal constituents with a whole bunch of red meat, but it's coming at the expense of their credibility everywhere else!!!
You don't give a flying fuck about the Constitution.
Lawyer Moved Transcript AFTER Adviser Raised Alarms
(NOW WHY DID HE DO THAT, CH?--MOVE A HARMLESS TRANSCRIPT OF A "PERFECT" CONVERSATION?)
October 30, 2019 at 11:24 pm EDT
“MOMENTS AFTER President Trump ended his phone call with Ukraine’s president on July 25, an unsettled national security aide rushed to the office of White House lawyer John Eisenberg,” the Washington Post reports.
“Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the top Ukraine adviser at the White House, had been listening to the call and was disturbed by the pressure Trump had applied to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate his political rivals.
“Vindman told Eisenberg, the White House’s legal adviser on national security issues, that what the president did was wrong… Scribbling notes on a yellow legal pad, Eisenberg proposed a step that other officials have said is at odds with long-standing White House protocol: moving a transcript of the call to a highly classified server and restricting access to it.”
Democrats Will Have to Subpoena John Bolton
October 30, 2019 at 8:19 pm EDT
Wall Street Journal:
“The House committees want Mr. Bolton to appear on Nov. 7, a person familiar with the matter said. Mr. Bolton’s attorney, Charles Cooper, informed the committee that his client wouldn’t appear voluntarily as requested. Mr. Cooper said he was ready to receive a subpoena on Mr. Bolton’s behalf at any time.”
SOUNDS LIKE JOHN BOLTON JUST WANTS A LITTLE "COVER" FOR DOING WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO ANYWAY :-)
HOORAY!
Obamacare Is Stronger than Ever
October 31, 2019 at 5:25 am EDT
Politico:
“Three years into a presidency that promised to kill Obamacare, the health care law has never been stronger.
“Millions of people buying coverage during the enrollment period starting Friday will find that average premiums have dropped across the country. When consumers go to HealthCare.gov, they’ll be paying 4 percent less on average for the most popular health plans — with six states reporting a double-digit decline.
“The years of huge rate hikes and insurers abandoning the markets appear to be a thing of the past as the 10th anniversary of the law approaches next spring. Predictions of the Affordable Care Act’s demise — made by President Donald Trump himself and Democrats who criticized administration policies undermining the law — haven’t materialized.”
______________
Will Next Week’s Elections Break the Mold?
October 31, 2019 at 5:50 am EDT
Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball:
“In an era of political nationalization that is bleeding down the ballot even to state-level races, the best bet in all three states would be to go with partisanship. And that’s where we’re leaning: Our ratings for the gubernatorial races in Kentucky and Mississippi remain Leans Republican and, while we don’t issue ratings for specific state legislative chambers and races, our sense is that the Democrats are better-positioned than Republicans to win both the Virginia House of Delegates and (especially) the Virginia Senate.”
Asked Wednesday if he had any concerns at all in light of recent reports on Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine, Scott said, “There’s lot of things that concern me.”
But he added, “That’s not the question.”
“The question on the table is impeachment and that’s the question we should get an answer to, and the answer so far is ‘For what would we impeach the president?’ And the answer is ‘I don’t see anything for that,’ ” he said.
At the same time, Scott acknowledged there is pressure on Senate Republicans to take any impeachment articles seriously.
“Everybody wants us to do the right thing. In order to do the right thing, we want to see all that there is,” Scott told reporters, explaining that he’s not ready to dismiss the House charges out of hand.
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) said Wednesday that the prospect of a quick vote on a motion to dismiss any articles of impeachment against Trump seems unlikely.
“I certainly think we need to hear it out from the House. This is a serious thing. You’re considering removing somebody from office or impeaching them in that way. I think you got to hear it,” she said.
A Republican senator who requested anonymity to comment on internal party discussions said GOP colleagues are taking the possibility of an impeachment trial seriously as the Democratic-controlled House compiles more evidence.
“We’re all becoming much more aware of the process and that’s because of the situation we’re in with the House,” the senator said, who added of colleagues, “I don’t think they’re going to dismiss it.”
“Right now, based on the facts that we have currently, the president will have the support he needs to get through this,” the senator added, though the lawmaker said there are enough colleagues who feel they owe it to the public to give the articles of impeachment serious consideration.
It’s a more measured tone than Republicans used when the House was considering impeachment
Another came days before, when acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney appeared to confirm at a press conference that military aid was withheld as leverage to push Ukraine to investigate corruption, although he later tried to walk back the statement.
McConnell on Tuesday declined to echo White House language calling the House impeachment probe “illegitimate and unconstitutional.”
Instead, he observed that “impeachment as a practical matter is whatever a majority of the House decides it is at any given moment.”
After Taylor’s damning testimony, Thune admitted to reporters: “The picture coming out of it based on the reporting that we’ve seen is, yeah, I would say not a good one.”
On Wednesday, another blow against the president came when Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan, Trump’s nominee to serve as ambassador to Russia, testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that he was aware of an effort by Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s personal lawyer, to remove Marie Yovanovitch as the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, on Wednesday said it would be “inappropriate” if Giuliani or anyone else spread misinformation to remove a U.S. ambassador.
“I would be concerned if a U.S. ambassador anywhere in the world is the subject of a disinformation campaign directed from abroad or from any interest, for that matter,” he said. “That would be something I wouldn’t be happy about. That would be something I would find to be inappropriate.”
Rubio also said it is important that he and his Senate colleagues carefully weigh the facts compiled by the House investigation.
“It’s important for us to make decisions based on all of the facts taken in context and taken together,” said Rubio, who noted that all of the facts and evidence compiled by House investigators have yet to be shared with the Senate.
ALSO INTERESTING...
Trump Approval Holds Steady
October 31, 2019 at 8:41 am EDT
A new AP/NORC poll finds 42% of Americans approve of President Trump’s handling of his job, in line with where he has been throughout his tenure. Just 7% of Democrats have a positive view of Trump as president.
“Trump’s job approval rating and other markers in the survey underscore the deeply divisive nature of his presidency, with Republicans largely favoring his actions and Democrats overwhelmingly disapproving. As Trump eyes his reelection campaign, it suggests his path to victory will hinge on rallying higher turnout among his core supporters as opposed to persuading new voters to back his bid for a second term.
Also interesting: 61% of Americans say Trump has little or no respect for the country’s democratic institutions and traditions.
______________
GOP Anxiety Deepens
October 31, 2019 at 8:30 am EDT
“Republican concerns are mounting about President Trump as damaging information piles up regarding his dealings with Ukraine,” The Hill reports.
“The dam is not yet at the bursting point, but anxiety — fueled by the sense that more revelations could emerge at any moment — is rippling through the GOP.
“More discord could burst into public view soon. There are tensions about the White House’s strategy, with the most fervent Trump allies favoring a hard-line approach and others expressing misgivings.”
______________
Most in Pennsylvania Want a New President
October 31, 2019 at 7:20 am EDT
A new Franklin & Marshall poll in Pennsylvania finds 37% of registered voters believe President Trump has done a good enough job to deserve re-election, while 59% voters say it is time for a change.
Also interesting: 57% of registered voters in the state support an impeachment inquiry into Trump.
In the Democratic presidential race, Joe Biden leads the field with 30%, followed by Elizabeth Warren at 18%.
________________
GOP Senators Shift Tone on Impeachment
October 31, 2019 at 6:46 am EDT
The Hill: “Senate Republicans are taking the House impeachment proceedings against President Trump more seriously as damaging revelations against the president mount and the possibility of a quick dismissal of the charges shrinks.”
As you can see, there's strong corroboration of what some of my posts said in Roger's post above.
LOL
Trump Reflects on Scalise Shooting
At a GOP fundraising event, President Trump reflected on the shooting of House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA) a few years ago...
Trump ... said Scalise’s wife “cried her eyes out when I met her at the hospital that fateful day… I mean not many wives would react that way to tragedy, I know mine wouldn’t.”
___________
Would she have broken into laughter, Donald?
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/468246-senate-gop-shifts-tone-on-impeachment
That's the same F&M polling that in Oct 2016 had hillary up 9 points in PA. And Trump won the state didn't he?
The Socialist Democrats passed in purely Partasian Vote the suspension of due process .
White House official expected to confirm diplomat’s account that Trump appeared to seek quid pro quo.
The Republican strategy is to say "so what?". quid pro quo is just another political decision. But seeking as from a foreign power is unconstitutional.
Scott A**hole doesn't give a shit about the Constitution because of his political bias.
Blogger James said...
ALSO INTERESTING...
No pedo, nothing you regurgitate from your hack sites is interesting nor are you
You are simply boring old and stupid
@seanmdav
Eric Ciaramella needs to testify under oath. He needs to disclose why he met with a DNC operative who colluded w/ foreign officials to smear Trump in 2016, and why he met w/ representatives of a Clinton Foundation donor who gave up to $25M to the Clintons.
Eric Ciaramella also needs to testify under oath why he invited a rep for Ukrainian oligarch and Clinton Foundation donor Victor Pinchuk to the White House the same day that oligarch’s representative met with Steele dossier leaker David Kramer.
And if, as @RCInvestigates asserts, Eric Ciamarella is the anti-Trump whistleblower, he needs to come clean under oath about his coordination with Adam Schiff and his potentially illegal concealment of that information from the IG. What is he hiding?
So many questions, I'm sure the search for the truth will find the answers.
White House official expected to confirm diplomat’s account that Trump appeared to seek quid pro quo
Appeared? So that's the standard of evidence with the Democrats?
@Doc_0
MWAHAHA! We've got Trump exactly where we want him! We've set him up to run against Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi in 2020 with the actual Democrat nominee looking like their puppet! That will be... oh.
would be nice but I think Nancy will announce her "retirement" before the next election.
Roger, tell us more about your private Chef?
God you are so full of bullshit.
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