- A new Marquette Poll shows that only 44% of Wisconsin voters want Trump impeached, while 51% are against removing the President.
- Meanwhile a new University of North Florida poll also shows the idea of impeachment underwater at 46% against and 48% for.
- Add these new polls to the recent Siena College poll of battleground states showing impeachment down ten points (43-53), and you begin to see the pattern.
Sure... impeachment is probably overwhelmingly popular in California, New York, and a few liberal strongholds. But if it is underwater in the purple states, imagine how unpopular it is in the red states? The issue for Schumer (once this gets to the Senate) is that this is not a national issue (so national polling doesn't matter). It's a state by state issue.
When you view it as such, Schumer is contending with at least 45 Senators from states where a vote for impeachment might as well be a resignation letter. Moreover, there is every reason for Republicans from more moderate states to vote with the President. The only question will be what does someone like Tammy Baldwin from Wisconsin do, when her constituents are against what her Party wants her to do and her vote doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things?
Impeachment is going to go down in flames in the Senate. That's just a fact. Moreover, because of the transparency of the President and his team, the general public already knows what he did. They've heard the allegations, the explanations, and read the transcripts. They know Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate possible 2016 election interference. They know Trump wanted Ukraine to look into Hunter Biden's company. They know Trump wanted Ukraine to look into the firing of the prosecutor. They likely suspect that he used the military aid to put pressure on the Ukrainian President. They simply do not see these things as crimes (likely because they are not crimes). They simply do not see this as the sort of behavior that rises to the level of being the first President EVER removed from office.
So no amount of "bombshell" witnesses repeating what we already know is going to really move that needle. No amount of deep state actors providing us with their irrelevant and unnecessary self-absorbed opinions is going to change anyone's minds. No amount of self soothing rhetoric from Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Lawrence Tribe, Jeffry Toobin, or Morning Joe is going to help. Certainly no amount of anonymous sources and rumors from WaPo, Politico, The Hill, and the NY Times is going to change reality.
Nothing changes, unless someone comes up with something entirely different, completely criminal, and are able to provide absolute proof. Otherwise... this thing is a failure!
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Vindham’s Testimony Appears to Contradict Rick Perry
Testimony from Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman “appeared to contradict Energy Secretary Rick Perry’s ardent denials that he ever heard former Vice President Joe Biden or his son Hunter discussed in relation to U.S. requests that Ukraine investigate corruption,” Politico reports.
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Cunningham to Vote for Impeachment Rules
Rep. Joe Cunningham (D-SC) told the Charleston Post & Courier that he intends to vote in favor of a House resolution this week that will lay out the ground rules for the ongoing impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
“The vote, which is expected Thursday, is not over whether to impeach Trump — a question that Cunningham emphasized he remains firmly undecided on — but simply to clarify the process as it moves into an increasingly public phase.
“Still, the decision by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to hold a process vote nevertheless placed the vulnerable freshman Democrat in a precarious political position, forcing him to take a side for the first time in a polarizing debate that he had generally avoided thus far.”
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Democrats Set Scope of Impeachment Inquiry
The House Democrats unveiled a resolution Tuesday afternoon to set the parameters of the public phase of the impeachment inquiry, the Washington Post reports.
They also released a statement and fact sheet.
The House plans to vote to formalize it Thursday.
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Trump Has a Big Problem In the Suburbs
A new Selzer & Company poll find just 32% of all suburban voters now say they would definitely vote to re-elect President Trump, while another 14% said they would consider someone else, and 51% said they would definitely vote for a candidate other than Trump.
Suburban women especially appear motivated to make their disapproval felt: 88% of suburban women said they would definitely vote in the 2020 presidential election, ten points higher than voters overall.
Said pollster Ann Selzer: “This to me is striking not so much in that they are aligning against President Trump, but the degree to which they are aligning against President Trump. That is sort of the pin in the hand grenade. They have the opinion and they’re more likely to vote.”
Seltzer needs to poll black and Hispanic support for Trump. It is significant.
White House Ukraine Expert Sought to Correct Transcript of Trump Call
Updated 9:31 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON — Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that the White House transcript of a July call between President Trump and Ukraine’s president omitted crucial words and phrases, and that his attempts to include them failed, according to three people familiar with the testimony.
The omissions, Colonel Vindman said, included Mr. Trump’s assertion that there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter.
Colonel Vindman, who appeared on Capitol Hill wearing his dark blue Army dress uniform and military medals, told House impeachment investigators that he tried to change the reconstructed transcript made by the White House staff to reflect the omissions. But while some of his edits appeared to have been successful, he said, those two corrections were not made.
Colonel Vindman did not testify to a motive behind the editing process. But his testimony is likely to drive investigators to ask further questions about how officials handled the call, including changes to the transcript and the decision to put it into the White House’s most classified computer system — and whether those moves were meant to conceal the conversation’s most controversial aspects.
The phrases do not fundamentally change lawmakers’ understanding of the call, which was first reported by the C.I.A. whistle-blower whose complaint set off the impeachment inquiry. There are plenty of other examples of Mr. Trump referring to Ukraine-related conspiracy theories and asking for investigations of the Biden family. But Colonel Vindman’s account offered a hint to solving a mystery surrounding the conversation: what Mr. Trump’s aides left out of the transcript in places where ellipses indicated dropped words.
YEP. I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG THAT WE NEEDED THE UNEDITED TRANSCRIPT OF THE CALL.
Islamic State Defector Critical to Raid’s Success
“U.S. commandos zeroed in on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s final hideout with the help of an extraordinarily well-placed informant, an Islamic State operative who facilitated the terrorist leader’s movements around Syria and even helped oversee construction work on his Syrian safe house, according to U.S. and Middle East-based officials knowledgeable about the operation,” the Washington Post reports.
“The mole’s detailed knowledge of Baghdadi’s whereabouts as well as the room-by-room layout of his sanctuary proved to be critical in the Oct. 26 raid that ended with the death of the world’s most-wanted terrorist.”
HE MAY NOT STILL BE ALIVE AFTER TRUMP'S BLATHERING OUT DETAILS THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AIRED.
Race Hustler Chicago Street Whore said
"I want to remind white folks that y’all were running from us. And you’re still running.”
— Michelle Obama
The mole was rescued and is safe James. His/her identity is still a secret.
Only The Socialist Democrats are never going to let the CIA Mole see the light of day with full Public Hearing and with Cross examination.
Speaker in Name Only Polosi can't risk it.
So, with apparently no self-awareness whatsoever, socialist Bernie Sanders and Rep. Rashida Tlaib, who has endorsed his campaign, posed in front of some empty shelves at a food pantry.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/10/29/thats-the-sign-of-socialism-bernie-sanders-poses-in-front-of-empty-shelves-at-food-pantry/
i'm starting to think we've officially entered 'idiocracy' territory.
I like this better, you fuck up.
Roger Amick October 23, 2019 at 4:41 PM
BTW I'm living in a 2,500 square foot house, with everything."
Today.
"Roger Amick October 29, 2019 at 1:22 PM
A 2,800 sf house with everything necessary for a great life. "
what a dope
US. Treasury Home
Deficit Spending
2017 - $667 billion
2018 - $774 billion
2019 - $984 billion
total = $2,425 Trillion.
Why are you so Spectacularly Wrong again Roger ?
Roger, you said 3 trilion has been added.
That is wrong.
You don't have to be a dummy everyday.
😣"You know, it's funny. Sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is when people are lining up for food. That's a good thing. "
Uncle Bernie
a dispatch in liberal asshattery from the land of alky:
The rolling blackouts in California is not a climate change story. It’s a perfect storm of bad management decisions and rent-seeking green energy contractors.
California gets a lot of well-deserved grief for not clearing publicly managed lands of organic debris, thus ensuring that the state is an epic tinderbox every year. This is something that does not happen here in Florida. Florida ecologists and wildlife officials supervise controlled burns throughout the state to ensure that there’s not a situation where a wildfire among the mangroves poses a threat to a major (or even a minor) city. It also protects the state’s tourism industry, which is a significant component of the state’s economy.
But that’s not where the rolling blackouts came from. California’s investor-owned utilities have dealt with the increasingly batshit people in Sacramento by taking an “if you can’t beat them, join them” attitude in lobbying. And that’s what you are seeing backfiring now.
PG&E went all-in on the green energy projects that California lawmakers and their constituents love. So much so that the company was actively choosing to invest in new green projects rather than make the necessary safety upgrades to its existing transmission systems. Those investment decisions are how California got the deadliest wildfire in state history last year. They had shitty equipment that was past its useful life.
The company now has so little faith in the safety of its equipment that it decided leaving millions of Californians without power during natural cycles of high winds and dry conditions was worth the risk that people might die or be otherwise injured without power. That turning major intersections into four-way stops for days on end was a better idea than burning a large fraction of the state down. Their decision isn’t stupid. The decisions that created this dilemma in the first place were stupid.
The investment bank Credit Suisse estimated that contracts with green energy companies is costing PG&E $2.2 billion more than rates can support EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Over two billion dollars to nurse their liberal political connections, while the utility cannot afford even to inspect their 100,000 miles of power lines, let alone make repairs to them. The utility claims that inspecting the lines alone would require quadrupling their rates. That’s how long they have let their system rot in the service of liberal fantasies.
https://daysofsunshine.blog/2019/10/13/california-has-much-much-bigger-problems-than-wildfires/
😣"You know, it's funny. Sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is when people are lining up for food. That's a good thing. "
Uncle Bernie
especially when they're lining up for food at the zoo, or the nearest landfill.
Socialism is a mental Health issue.
Today's Leading American Socialist Democrats running for President are All Millionaires.
That is the economic model of Socialism.
Schiff shuts down questioning by GOP members directing witnesses not to answer them.
So tell me again how they have a right to cross-examination?
Gee Lil Scotty.....as more shit becomes public during the open hearings......me thinks there will be many idiots seeing the light of the trump tyranny........Keep praying as the atheist you are....it is all you got left after Vindman confirmed the alleged transcript was missing stuff.....just as I suspected from the liar in chief!!!!! And the goat fucking idiot still spewing GOP BS like the good little non thinking minion he is!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
The party of lincoln is rapidly becoming the party of dumb fucks!!!!!! Faux yesterday with their bashing of Vindiman was despicable , just like trump fucking hookers!!!!! And you keep slurping!!!!
Oct. 29, 2019 at 8:58 p.m. EDT
A top National Security Council official on Tuesday delivered a firsthand account of President Trump pressuring Ukraine to investigate his political rivals, putting congressional Republicans in a bind and emboldening Democrats as they moved toward their first impeachment vote Thursday.
Trump and his allies on TV lashed out at Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who said his concerns about what he heard in Trump’s July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky drove him to notify his superiors. Trump dismissed Vindman as a “Never Trumper,” while some of his allies questioned the patriotism of the Army combat veteran because his family emigrated from the Soviet Union when he was 3.
Trump’s attack on the Purple Heart recipient unnerved Republicans in Congress, with several pushing back, albeit without naming the president. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) called the offensive “misplaced and very unfortunate,” and said he had “full confidence” in Vindman “as an individual and his patriotism.”
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The response from Trump’s party created an unusual dynamic in which Republicans were defending a man who was simultaneously accusing the president of undermining national security for his own political purposes. Privately, several Republicans found Vindman’s testimony to be damaging and lamented that once again they were forced to defend the president.
Zeldin: Democrats 'losing their minds' at Vindman hearing
Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.) called the House Democratic impeachment resolution a "wasted opportunity" and called the entire impeachment process "illegitimate." (The Washington Post)
The GOP reaction to Vindman comes as the party faces frontal attacks on two of its major talking points in Trump’s defense. Vindman’s account of the phone call deprives Republicans of the complaint that the witnesses called by Democrats have relied on hearsay when discussing the president’s interactions with Zelensky. And as Democrats moved to vote on a resolution to hold open hearings on impeachment, Republicans faced the prospect of losing their complaint that the inquiry is being conducted in secret.
The resolution, set to come before the full House on Thursday, would empower Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) to take the lead on public hearings. It would also enable House Republicans for the first time to make requests before Schiff’s committee for testimony and documents — a practice that matches the minority-party powers in the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton.
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Democrats unveil procedures for Trump’s impeachment inquiry, rebutting GOP attacks
Republicans have raised questions about Trump’s right to be personally represented by attorneys during the impeachment proceedings, noting that Clinton had lawyers present during the House Judiciary Committee’s consideration of articles of impeachment in 1998. The committee on Tuesday issued a three-page summary of procedural safeguards for the president. They include the right of the president or his counsel to recommend additional testimony or evidence for the committee’s review and to question any witnesses who testify, among other provisions.
Several Democrats said they believed the vote would undermine Republicans, who for weeks have raised objections to the process Democrats have undertaken and have called for a formal vote on launching impeachment proceedings.
“The message this week is going to be: You asked for it, you got it,” said Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.).
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Blogger James said...
Vindham’s Testimony Appears to Contradict Rick Perry
Vindham's testimony is contradicted by a lot of people. Which makes you wonder about Vindham's testimony.
Vindham's testimony is contradicted by a lot of people
Link asshole.....!!!!!! Or are you basing that on Fox News opinion ??????? BWWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Well if you bother to read (can you read?) you see it is contradicted by Volodymyr Zelensky, Donald Trump, Rick Perry SOS Pompeo, the official transcript, and pretty much everyone else on the call.
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