New public opinion polls are moving against Democrats on impeachment as independents sour on the House inquiry and increasingly express opposition to the hearings that have consumed Washington in recent weeks.
The new data comes as a surprise to Democrats, many of whom believe witnesses have offered damning testimony about President Trump’s dealings with Ukraine.
Witnesses have testified that Trump pressed Ukraine’s leaders to conduct investigations of the energy company Burisma Holdings — which was seen as code for probes of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, given the younger Biden’s work for the company as a board member.
There has also been testimony that security aid for Ukraine was delayed to put more pressure on that country’s government. Other witnesses have castigated Trump for pursuing conspiracy theories that Ukraine and not Russia was a major player in electoral interference in 2016.
This pretty much reads as a parody. The "Hill" (much like liberals and the coastal elitists) just see things differently than the rest of the Country.
“There’s always a disconnect between Washington and what people are thinking out in the states,” said Dick Harpootlian, the former chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party and a surrogate for former Joe Biden’s presidential campaign.
The reality is that testifying to secret codes (rather than real evidence), delays (rather than actual withholding), or issues irrelevant to the impeachment allegations are not going to move anyone who isn't already convinced that Trump is guilty of something, everything, and anything in between.
I cannot personally figure out exactly why Schiff, Pelosi and the rest of the gang believe that they can continue to push impeachment without actually being able to prove what they are alleging. A majority of the witnesses do not even pretend to have any relevant information about the allegations. Rather they spent all of their time disagreeing with the manner in which the President is conducting his Ukrainian foreign policy.
I guess if you are one of those people who believe that Presidents shouldn't be allowed to make their own foreign policy, then these are effective witnesses (even thought they have nothing to do with the issue at hand). On the flip side, if you are of the opinion that the Constitution matters, then these witnesses are proof positive that a deep state does exist and that they are no longer hiding the fact.
But anyone holding the Democrats to the point that they are trying to make are going to be extremely disappointed with the case being made so far. This would be exactly why support is dropping and why the support is dropping specifically in "flyover country" (which of course is where pretty much all of your battleground states are located).
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The Democrats pursuing President Donald Trump
https://twitter.com/Tombx7M/status/1198582750275616768
Probably his BEST PLAY EVER, even dems are applauding
THE HILL
Impeachment will make some Senate Republicans squirm
There is speculation whether impeachment will hurt some House Democrats from marginal districts; no doubt, a few will squirm.
If, as seems likely, the House votes to impeach Donald Trump, and it goes to the Senate for a trial, a handful of Republicans there — who may hold the balance in next year's elections — may squirm EVEN MORE.
These include Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Sen. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.), Sen. Joni Ernst (R Iowa) and Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.). All are either slight favorites or in toss-up races against likely formidable opponents.
Voters, according to politicians and polls, care more about health care, the economy, immigration and education than impeachment. But a pitched congressional battle over removing Trump will affect marginal races, probably energizing voters on both sides.
Any possible Senate votes wouldn't occur for at least ten weeks. Ten weeks ago, little was known about the scandal, in which the president pressured the Ukrainians to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden while holding up much-needed military assistance.
Senate Republicans have to be worried what ELSE may come out in the weeks and months ahead; court tests may be settled that would require turning over more information — and perhaps even the TESTIMONY OF ADMINISTRATION WITNESSES in the face of White House stonewalling. Static analysis is perilous in this saga.
Polls show a pronounced partisan split on impeachment: Democrats overwhelmingly for; Republicans overwhelmingly against — with independents divided.
That's why a vote might cause some angst for maybe 15 percent of the new House Democrats who won Republican-held seats last year and several non-freshmen Democrats.
But any on the fence have a believable argument: Impeachment is like an indictment, and plenty of abuse of power and obstruction of justice particulars have emerged.
That won't avail in the Senate, where Republicans hold a 53 to 47 Republican majority and it takes a two-thirds vote to convict.
If this scenario plays out, it will pressure a few Democratic Senators — but it will mainly affect those handful of Republicans in battleground states, where the public is divided. Three of those states — North Carolina, Iowa and Arizona — voted for Trump, who likely would be on the ballot next year. Democrats say all these states will be in play next year.
If more comes out and Senate Republicans look for a compromise like censure instead of impeachment, that's likely to be opposed by one prominent party leader: Donald J. Trump.
Senior Senate Republicans, Like Tennessee's Lamar Alexander, who's retiring, and Rob Portman of Ohio, not up until 2022, may offer an easier cop-out. They say the president's actions were "inappropriate" and "wrong," but trying to shake down a foreign country to go after your political opponent isn't an impeachable offense. In the House, Portman voted to impeach Bill Clinton for lying about sex. Alexander wasn't in Congress yet.
These office holders know Trump owns the party and his base will punish any Republican who goes off the reservation. A recent illustration: Sen. Mitt Romney (R- Utah) has been one of the more outspoken GOP critics of Trump's behavior; in 2012, Romney and former Sen. Rick Santorum basically tied for first in the Iowa caucuses — in last weekend's Iowa poll, Republicans gave Romney a 36 percent favorability rating. Trump, by contrast, has an 85 percent rating.
Most of the marginal Republican Senate incumbents, keenly aware of the Trump base, have indicated, as of now, they'd vote against an impeachment conviction, while trying to avoid the issue. Ernst struggled over a Trump impeachment-related question at a town hall. Gardner has repeatedly declined to say whether it was proper for Trump to pressure a foreign country to smear his political opponent, but he laments impeachment as a "partisan exercise."
McSally, who literally rushed away from reporters at the Capitol when asked about the issue, knows the dangers of trying to walk a fine line. In the Arizona Senate race last year, she tried to self-identify both with Trump and the late Sen. John McCain, two men of profoundly different values and views who had contempt for one another. She lost. She was appointed to the Senate this year to fill a vacancy.
Collins, facing the toughest race of her career in Maine, may be walking the most delicate line. A recent Boston Globe analysis concluded that other than the president, no politician "is more jammed up by impeachment than Collins."
Sorry James...
Other than Collins (who is the only coastal Republican in the mix) - the rest will be representing states where impeachment will be largely underwater. Iowans, Arizonians, and Carolinians are not supporting impeachment.
I just don't think you are willing to accept that this is going badly for Democrats and that it is going specifically badly for them in Battleground areas of the country.
C.H. Truth said...
Sorry James...
I just don't think you are willing to accept that this is going badly for Democrats and that it is going specifically badly for them in Battleground areas of the country.
the "pastor" is such an ultra-partisan the dems could actually lose 100,000,000-1 and he would be cut-and-pasting articles from political_lire about how dems will soon be doing better and the republicans will be falling from current levels.
@RNCResearch
WaPo’s Bade: some Democrats getting “cold feet” as worries grow about public opposition to impeachment
https://youtu.be/OU7f8wHDngc
Jesse Kelly Retweeted RNC Research
One of the worst political mistakes of all time. It’s been fascinating watching Democrats commit ritualistic suicide while every bubble-bound Trump hater convinces himself this whole thing has been effective.
Of course this is all cover to the worst political scandal of all-time. The OBAMA CRIME SYNDICATE
Schiff is already backing away from impeachment.
That leaves James, Roger and Denny in an embarrassing position.
Schiff on why Democrats didn’t call the Ukraine whistleblower to testify
Despite two weeks of extraordinary impeachment hearings, which amassed a dozen witnesses and over 30 hours of testimony, there was one person the public and Democratic-led House of Representatives did not get to hear from: the still-anonymous whistleblower who triggered the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) on Sunday told NBC “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd the committee wanted to call for the whistleblower’s testimony but declined to do so for a pair of reasons.
“You did pledge that the intelligence committee would hear from the whistleblower in some form or another,” Todd said. “Are you going to fulfill that pledge?”
“We had a deep interest in having the whistleblower testify until two things happened,” Schiff said. “One, we were able to prove everything in the whistleblower complaint with witnesses that had firsthand information; and second, the president and his allies effectively put that whistleblower’s life in danger.”
He continued: “The president said the whistleblower and others should be treated as a traitor or a spy and we ought to use the penalty we used to use for traitors and spies and that’s the death penalty."
“So here’s the thing, Chuck, we don’t need the whistleblower secondhand evidence anymore,” Schiff added. “It would only serve to endanger this person and to gratify the president’s desire for retribution and that is not a good enough reason to bring in the whistleblower.”
Trump, at the conclusion of the televised impeachment hearings, continued his calls for the whistleblower’s identity to be revealed as he lashed out at the inquiry in an interview with FOX & Friends last Friday.
“The bottom line is all of those witnesses, they're all shifty Schiff, don't forget. There was no due process. You can't have lawyers. We couldn't have any witnesses. We want to call the whistleblower,” Trump said, before adding, “I want a trial” in the Senate if the House votes to impeach him.
Meanwhile, the FBI recently sought to question the whistleblower, as Yahoo News first reported last week. No interview has been scheduled.
The inquiry, which followed the whistleblower’s complaint over President Trump’s July 25 Ukraine call, is centered on the president’s efforts, conveyed through his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, to coerce the government of Ukraine to announce investigations that he thought would help his 2020 campaign, including of his potential opponent Joe Biden and his son Hunter. Part of the pressure on Ukraine involved the temporary withholding of military aid.
While the public hearings have ended and Schiff on CNN's "State of the Union said “the evidence that's been produced overwhelmingly shows serious misconduct by the president,” the Democratic lawmaker doesn’t “foreclose the possibility of more depositions, more hearings.”
“We are in the process of getting more documents all the time. So that investigative work is being done," he told host Jake Tapper. "What we're not going to do is wait months and months while the administration plays a game of rope-a-dope in an effort to try to stall. We're not willing to go down that road. And what's more, the evidence is already overwhelming.”
Schiff spoke about another potential witness, John Bolton, the president’s former national security adviser, who reemerged on Twitter last week amid the hearings and had refused to testify before Congress, but, as the Democratic leader acknowledged, would more likely testify before a Republican-majority Senate.
“We have certainly been in touch with his lawyer. And what we have been informed by his lawyer -- because we invited him to come in, and he did not choose to come in and testify, notwithstanding the fact that his deputy Fiona Hill and his other deputy, Colonel Vindman, and Tim Morrison and others in the National Security Council have shown the courage to come in -- is, if we subpoena him, they will sue us in court,” Schiff told Tapper.
“Now, he will have to explain one day if he maintains that position, why he wanted to wait to put it in a book, instead of telling the American people what he knew when it really mattered to the country,” he added.
Schiff, nodding to the possibility of upcoming investigations, told Todd “there are still other witnesses, other documents we would like to obtain" before articles of impeachment would be moved from the House likely before the year’s end.
When asked by Todd whether he would testify if called by the Senate in an impeachment trial in the event that the House impeaches Trump, Schiff said, “If the Senate wants to call me as a witness then they pretty much made the decision not to take this process seriously.”
“I’m not a fact witness,” he added.
Schiff on why Democrats didn’t call the Ukraine whistleblower to testify
What followed was two overfilled posts of lies.
Today is the day we all need the Thank The Squatters for making the Impeachment happen.
"The smart move for the Democrats would be censure. This get's it over with and it would not go to the senate where they can't control events.
But that is exactly what they won't do because the stupid-leftest wing of the party won't accept anything less than impeachment." CS
😆 “If the Senate wants to call me as a witness then they pretty much made the decision not to take this process seriously.”
“I’m not a fact witness,” he added.😉
Huffington Post
He is publicly Schitting his adult diaper.
CS , the Censure is the best way for the Socialist Democrats to exit the Jack n the box they put themselves in.
Another example of the R pig party trying to cover trumps fat old white ass with BS!!!! Some day history will look on trump and his party with utter disdain as everything they do is to keep trump out of jail....>How sad there are sooooo many blind followers here just follow the bouncing ball as the story keeps evolving to keep up with the lies.....!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! This will be the next fire storm all slurpers will defend!!!!!
Emails show an extensive effort to justify decision to block Ukraine aid
A confidential White House review of President Trump’s decision to place a hold on military aid found hundreds of documents that reveal extensive attempts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision and a debate over whether the delay was legal, according to three people familiar with the records.
Lol@Fatty
The goat fucker again shows why he is a flaming idiot......nothing but stupid!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Keep LOLing.....proving there ain't a single working synapse in your empty head!!!!!! Asshole
November 24, 2019 at 2:57 p.m. EST
A confidential White House review of President Trump’s decision to place a hold on military aid to Ukraine has turned up hundreds of documents that reveal extensive efforts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision and a debate over whether the delay was legal, according to three people familiar with the records.
The research by the White House Counsel’s Office, which was triggered by a congressional impeachment inquiry announced in September, includes early August email exchanges between acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and White House budget officials seeking to provide an explanation for withholding the funds after President Trump had already ordered a hold in mid-July on the nearly $400 million in security assistance, according to the three people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal White House deliberations.
One person briefed on the records examination said White House lawyers are expressing concern that the review has turned up some unflattering exchanges and facts that could at a minimum embarrass the president. It’s unclear if the Mulvaney discussions or other records pose any legal
They said that crooked Hillary was going to win, so why do you believe them now?
Someone else should be impeached and bribery!
WASHINGTON — Internal State Department emails and documents released late Friday further implicate Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in a campaign orchestrated this year by President Trump and his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani to pressure Ukraine for political favors.
The emails indicate that Mr. Pompeo spoke at least twice by telephone with Mr. Giuliani in March as Mr. Giuliani was urging Ukraine to investigate Mr. Trump’s rivals, and trying to oust a respected American ambassador to Ukraine, Marie L. Yovanovitch, who had been promoting anticorruption efforts in the country.
Anyone who gets involved with this President, gets in trouble!
Scott A**hole. this is not disagreeing with the manner in which the President is conducting his Ukrainian foreign policy.
That's politics. But the truth is that the President has committed bribery, and abused the power of the President of the United States of America.
If this was just about politics or policy decisions, I would agree with you.
But it is much more dangerous.
Any President in the future would be able to do anything he or she wants.
The Congress is granted to power to check the power of the President. Is it a big problem? Fuck yeah. But I don't want any future President to be a virtual dictator!
The key is not to believe Trump (or anyone) who says that impeachment is working in the White House's favor. It might be! But that Marquette poll doesn't prove much of anything yet. Nor does the article on The Hill
"Roger Amick said...
The key is not to believe Trump (or anyone) who says that impeachment is working in the White House's favor. It might be!"
hmm OK
The public isn't interested or is bored with the President and the Democrats impeachment hearings.
But I remember the last two impeachment hearings.
We will see..m
Navy Secretary Asked to Resign
November 24, 2019 at 5:47 pm EST
“Defense Secretary Mark Esper demanded the resignation of the Navy secretary, Richard Spencer, declaring that he had lost “confidence” in the Navy’s top civilian leader after Mr. Spencer diverged from President Trump over the treatment of a member of the Navy SEALs at the center of a high-profile war crimes case,” the New York Times reports.
“In a statement, Mr. Esper said he had lost trust in Mr. Spencer because his private statements about the Navy SEAL case differed from what he advocated in public. But Defense Department officials said Mr. Spencer prompted the ire of Mr. Trump when he threatened to resign over the president’s handling of the case of the SEALs member, Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, and publicly said he disagreed with the president’s handling of the matter.”
House Intelligence Committee Has Videos
November 24, 2019 at 5:48 pm EST
The House Intelligence Committee is in possession of audio and video recordings and photographs provided to the committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudy Giuliani, who reportedly played a key role in assisting him in his efforts to investigate Joe Biden and Ukraine, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.
White House Emails Show Cover Up of Ukraine Scandal
November 24, 2019 at 6:02 pm EST
“A confidential White House review of President Trump’s decision to place a hold on military aid to Ukraine has turned up hundreds of documents that reveal extensive efforts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision and a debate over whether the delay was legal,” the Washington Post reports.
“The research by the White House Counsel’s Office, which was triggered by a congressional impeachment inquiry announced in September, includes early August email exchanges between acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and White House budget officials seeking to provide an explanation for withholding the funds after President Trump had already ordered a hold in mid-July on the nearly $400 million in security assistance.
"...and a debate over whether the delay was legal...":
TRUMP SAYS:
FIRE ANY OF MY PEOPLE WHO DEBATED THAT!
A confidential White House review of President Trump’s decision to place a hold on military aid to Ukraine has turned up hundreds of documents that reveal extensive efforts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision and a debate over whether the delay was legal, according to three people familiar with the records.
This looks like a coverup for the charges against the President for bribery and extortion.
The hold on the military aid is at the heart of House Democrats’ investigation into whether the president should be removed from office for allegedly trying to pressure Ukraine into investigating his political rivals in exchange for the U.S. support that President Volodymyr Zelensky desperately wanted in the face of Russian military aggression.
hundreds of documents that reveal extensive efforts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision
Sandy testified that the decision to delay aid to Ukraine was highly unusual, and senior political appointees in his office wanted to be involved in reviewing the aid package. Sandy testified that he had never seen a senior political OMB official assume control of a portfolio in such a fashion, according to the people familiar with his testimony.
Sandy told impeachment investigators he had questions about whether it was legal to withhold aid Congress had expressly authorized to help Ukraine defend itself from Russia, but OMB lawyers told him it was fine as long as they called it a temporary hold, according to a person familiar with Sandy’s account. Sandy, the deputy associate director for national security programs at the OMB, signed formal letters to freeze the funds, but top political appointees were unable to provide him with an explanation for the delay.
Trump has continued to describe that impeachment investigation as a “hoax” and maintain that he did nothing wrong.
“This is a continuation of the witch hunt which has gone on from before I got elected,” he told Fox News on Friday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-review-turns-up-emails-showing-extensive-effort-to-justify-trumps-decision-to-block-ukraine-military-aid/2019/11/24/2121cf98-0d57-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html
The same Washington post that has a story today titled Barack Obama, conservative?
You're too easy
Holy shit again. Remember the Nixon tapes were the final nail in the coffin of Richard Nixon's Presidency.
The House Intelligence Committee is in possession of audio and video recordings and photographs provided to the committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who reportedly played a key role in assisting him in his efforts to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and Ukraine, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.
The material submitted to the committee includes audio, video and photos that include Giuliani and Trump. It was unclear what the content depicts and the committees only began accessing the material last week.
video and photos that include Giuliani and Trump.@!@@
Obama was a moderate Democrat.
You need to relax and read the story. It true they were objecting justice!
Remember the Nixon tapes. This President looks like it's just just following his policy decisions. It's not just that. He's been tying to cover up his illegal acts.
Obama was no moderate. He's the reason the dem party is so fat left.
Yep, The Obimbo Radicalized the Democrats.
Since the Three Socialist Stooges of CHT are clearly winning, why are they so angry?
“I cannot in good conscience obey an order that I believe violates the sacred oath I took in the presence of my family, my flag and my faith to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
He resigned rather than support a murderer who killed a rag head.
The swamp is not going away because the crocodiles are going to eat the President.
Must Read Josh Marshall. A blogger who has millions of followers, unlike Thecoldheartedtruth.bst
Josh Marshall
Great exclusive here from Josh Kovensky who’s been working this story for several weeks and has more coming on this front. Another Trump-aligned attorney — actually a former U.S. Attorney, Bud Cummins — was pushing the Southern District of New York on investigations of Joe Biden based on clients he was working for in Ukraine. He was trying to serve as an intermediary for Yuriy Lutsenko, the crooked prosecutor who later hooked up or was already working with Rudy Giuliani. Yesterday, Giuliani published a letter to Senator Lindsey Graham, offering new purported evidence for Graham’s investigation into the Biden family. This is what he was talking about.
The big picture here is that when you have a crooked President who puts out word that he’s looking for foreigners to take out his political rivals, a lot of shady people come out of the woodwork — unsurprisingly.
As far back as October 2018, a former U.S. attorney acting on behalf of Ukrainian interests tried to get federal law enforcement to bite on bogus political dirt about the Bidens and on whether Paul Manafort’s notorious Black Ledger was a forgery.
Bud Cummins, a former U.S. attorney in Arkansas, emailed the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York relaying a request for a meeting on the same topics into which President Trump would later demand Ukraine conduct investigations.
TPM has been investigating Cummins’ role in attempting to serve as an intermediary between certain Ukrainian interests and federal law enforcement. Cummins’ involvement has not been previously reported. However, Rudy Giuliani sent a letter on Saturday to Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Lindsey Graham (R-SC) claiming that a former U.S. attorney was ready to provide emails and memoranda about an attempt to get the FBI to investigate Biden and the list of Manafort bribes, called the Black Ledger.
Cummins confirmed to TPM Sunday morning that Giuliani’s letter was referring to him.
The meeting proposed by Cummins would have been between Ukraine’s then-prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, and Manhattan U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman. Lutsenko waged a campaign to push out Marie Yovanovitch, the then-U.S. ambassador in Kyiv, in part by spreading the same allegations that he had sent to Cummins. Lutsenko has emerged as the figure who also channeled dirt to Giuliani as it made its way into the U.S. media ecosystem.
The email proposing the meeting, which Cummins said he sent on Oct. 4, 2018, laid out allegations about Hunter Biden and his work for Burisma, and that the Black Ledger was falsified, Cummins told TPM in a phone interview.
Cummins said that he received the information about Hunter Biden and Manafort from two intermediaries of Lutsenko in September 2018.
“The information I gave to them was a request to meet with Lutsenko,” Cummins said, adding that he had a brief phone call with Berman and sent three follow-up emails after the information was sent.
Speaking over the phone Sunday morning, Cummins expressed to TPM a mixture of dismay that Berman broke off contact and mild embarrassment at having dealt with Ukrainians whose motivations he admitted he did not understand. Cummins added that when he sent the email to Berman he “wasn’t advocating for the legitimacy of any of this.”
“At the time, I didn’t know a whole lot about Ukraine. I didn’t make any real attempt to vet this.” He added “I didn’t care, that wasn’t my job” in a discussion of what may have been motivating Lutsenko.
Lutsenko and a spokesperson for Lutsenko didn’t immediately return requests for comment. Berman’s office declined to comment.
Cummins told TPM that he had tried to signal to Berman that he was not vouching for the credibility of the allegations themselves. He said that he suggested to Berman that Lutsenko could “delegate some investigators to meet with some line [prosecutors] in his office,” referring to Berman.
Cummins called the lack of response from the Manhattan federal prosecutor a “breathtaking double standard,” given how the Mueller investigation “targeted” President Trump.
A former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Arkansas, Cummins was one the federal prosecutors fired by the George W. Bush administration during the U.S. attorneys scandal. A New York Times editorial at the time described Cummins as “one of the most distinguished lawyers in Arkansas” who is “respected by Republicans and Democrats alike.” Cummins was pushed out of office in favor of a deputy to Karl Rove.
In 2016, Cummins served as chair of Donald Trump’s campaign in Arkansas, then as a Trump whip at the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland. He went on to serve on the Trump administration transition team.
As hard as The DemStream Media is full on press to hide/Defend Ukraine Biden, it must be true.
Uh Oh: Lefty Media Realizing Impeachment May Be Bad for Democrats
Democrats were on cloud nine when the closed-door impeachment inquiry began. Back then, Rep. Adam Schiff was lying to the American people about what the president said on his July 25 phone call to the president of Ukraine. House Democrats selectively called witnesses, selectively leaked testimony, and continued to fool independent voters into thinking the Democrats were actually hysterical for a good reason.
The Soviet show trial really wasn't a good look for the Democrats, so the House voted on a bill that gave the process the false appearance of fairness while keeping the Democrats in full control of the narrative and substance of the impeachment inquiry. Two Democrats joined every Republican in voting against the bill, but Speaker Pelosi managed to ram it through.
But what little sunlight the Democrats allowed into the process was enough to start turning the American people away. Despite calling their best witnesses forward – most of whom, like the whistleblower, didn't actually hear Trump's July 25 phone call – support for impeaching the president fell as soon as the public hearings began. A recent poll finds support for impeachment has fallen five percent since October, and Trump's approval rating has shot up five percent during the same period. It seems the more Americans learn about Trump's handling of foreign aid to Ukraine, the more Americans approve of the president's job performance and want Trump to remain in office.
Over the cliff they go!!
Democrats are walking away from Clinton/biden/obimbo/palsy impeachment.
"Freshman swing-district Democrat Rep. Cindy Axne (D-IA) said Saturday that she “did not run” to “impeach” President Donald Trump despite her backing of the impeachment inquiry."
"Rep. Axne’s comments follow as a recent Emerson College poll found that only six percent of Iowa voters say that impeachment is the most important issue."
He resigned rather than support a murderer who killed a rag head.
1. He didn't resigned, he was fired by SecDef.
2. The "murderer" was acquitted of murder.
So you are wrong on both counts asshole.
The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-Events is the title of a 1960s book by historian and Librarian of Congress Daniel Boorstin. Pseudo-events, he wrote, are staged solely to generate news media coverage. Real events, in contrast, involve independent actors and have unpredictable outcomes.
It’s not difficult to say which category the House Democrats’ impeachment hearings belongs in. It’s a classic pseudo-event stage-managed to prod sympathetic media into running predictable stories. Inconvenient questions from Republican members are blocked. Even the name of the original “whistleblower” is concealed, though no law requires that, and the stage managers know who he is.
Yet on the front pages and cable news, this pseudo-event is crowding out two genuine events of potentially world-shaking importance and uncertain outcome.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-democrats-impeachment-pseudo-event
1. He didn't resigned, he was fired by SecDef.
2. The "murderer" was acquitted of murder.
So you are wrong on both counts asshole.
i've never understood the left's undying devotion to terrorists and enemies of America.
for the first time in a very long time we have finally dropped the ridiculous pretense of asinine 'rules of engagement' and are allowing our military personnel to actually take the fight to the enemy.
eddie gallagher is a warrior, a patriot and a hero.
it's takes a real piece of shit to label him a murderer.
"Freshman swing-district Democrat Rep. Cindy Axne (D-IA) said Saturday that she “did not run” to “impeach” President Donald Trump despite her backing of the impeachment inquiry."
i suspect there will be more than a few "one & done" democrat reps as a result of this schitt show.
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BREAKING: No fewer than 3 Senate committees are now formally investigating Obama-Biden solicitation of Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election, as well as Biden family corruption in Ukraine. Investigators seek records from the DOJ, FBI, DOS, DOT and the U.S. National Archives
10:39 AM - 24 Nov 2019
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1198672548453658624
the enemy within:
Anti-Zionist students at Oberlin College in Ohio erected a memorial last week commemorating the death of multiple Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists.
Oberlin Students for a Free Palestine shared in a Facebook post on Thursday that it had installed a display in “commemoration of the 34 Palestinians killed by Israeli rocket fire this last week” in Wilder Bowl, a central outdoor space on campus where students often congregate.
https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/11/24/oberlin-college-students-erect-memorial-to-palestinian-islamic-jihad-terrorists/
gee, who didn't see THIS coming?
LOS ANGELES (AP) — California is increasing business tax rates on legal marijuana, a move that stunned struggling companies that have been pleading with the state to do just the opposite.
Hefty marijuana taxes that can approach 50 percent in some communities have been blamed for pushing shoppers into California’s tax-free illegal market, which is thriving. Industry analysts estimate that $3 are spent in the illegal market for every $1 in the legal one.
The California Cannabis Industry Association said in a statement that its members are “stunned and outraged.”
The group said the higher taxes that will take effect Jan. 1 will make it even worse for a legal industry struggling under the weight of heavy regulation and fees, local bans on pot sales and growing and a booming underground marketplace.
“Widening the price ... gap between illicit and regulated products will further drive consumers to the illicit market at a time when illicit products are demonstrably putting people’s lives at risk,” the group said, referring to the national vaping health crisis.
Los Angeles dispensary owner Jerred Kiloh, who heads the United Cannabis Business Association, said the increased levies added to the heavily taxed market “seems like a slap in the face.”
The changes involve taxes paid by legal businesses, which ultimately get passed along to consumers at the retail counter.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-boosts-pot-taxes-shocking-205620449.html
THIS
White House Emails Show Cover Up of Ukraine Scandal
November 24, 2019 at 6:02 pm EST
“A confidential White House review of President Trump’s decision to place a hold on military aid to Ukraine has turned up hundreds of documents that reveal extensive efforts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision and a debate over whether the delay was legal,” the Washington Post reports.
“The research by the White House Counsel’s Office, which was triggered by a congressional impeachment inquiry announced in September, includes early August email exchanges between acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and White House budget officials seeking to provide an explanation for withholding the funds after President Trump had already ordered a hold in mid-July on the nearly $400 million in security assistance.”
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AND THEN THIS
Giuliani Associate Wants to Testify
November 24, 2019 at 10:40 pm EST
“Lev Parnas, a business associate of Rudy Giuliani, wants to testify to Congress that aides to Rep. Devin Nunes called off a trip to Ukraine this year when they realized they would be required to notify Democratic committee chairman Adam Schiff,” CNBC reports.
“The purpose of the trip was to interview two Ukrainian prosecutors who claim to have evidence that could help President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign, according to Parnas’ lawyer.”
oh god James is a boring old sack of shit.
Looks to be another FABULOUS WEEK for AMERICANS and REPUBLICANS !!!
dems are taking their "urgent" "national emergency" CHARADE and now "seriously" considering a "censure". Must suck to be a lying dem.
But at least you have some company if you are a lying "pastor"
ROFLMFAO !!!
@JenGriffinFNC
In the end Navy Secretary Richard Spencer was not fired for standing up for military justice but for dishonesty and undermining the military justice system, according to a senior US official. He was fired for “lack of candor.”
well you know who will stand up for him
@Lrihendry
I’ve never seen a political party work so hard to get rid of a president but not illegal immigrants, drug dealers and child traffickers.
China Willing to Wait Trump Out
Reuters:
“An ambitious ‘phase two’ trade deal between the United States and China is looking less likely as the two countries struggle to strike a preliminary ‘phase one’ agreement.
“Officials in Beijing say they don’t anticipate sitting down to discuss a phase two deal before the U.S. election, in part because they want to wait to see if Trump wins a second term.”
Said one Chines official: “It’s Trump who wants to sign these deals, not us. We can wait."
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CHINA'S CHI, LIKE PUTIN AND KIM, IS PLAYING TRUMP LIKE THE INCOMPETENT, NAIVE, BUNGLING, BLUNDERING, DILETTANTISH, DABBLING, NON PROFESSIONAL, INEPT FOREIGN POLICY AMATEUR HE IS.
Meanwhile, farmers in America suffer.
Rick Perry Says Trump Is the ‘Chosen One’
November 25, 2019 at 8:20 am EST
Energy Secretary Rick Perry told Fox & Friends that he believes President Trump is the “chosen one.”
Said Perry: “God’s used imperfect people all through history. King David wasn’t perfect. Saul wasn’t perfect. Solomon wasn’t perfect.”
He added: “And I actually gave the president a little-one pager on those Old Testament kings about a month ago and I shared it with him. I said, ‘Mr. President, I know there are people that say you said you were the chosen one and I said, ‘You were.’ I said, ‘If you’re a believing Christian, you understand God’s plan for the people who rule and judge over us on this planet in our government.'”
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Or Is He the Anti-Christ?
U.S. Resumes Operations Against ISIS in Syria
November 25, 2019 at 9:07 am EST
New York Times:
“United States troops have resumed large-scale counterterrorism missions against the Islamic State in northern Syria, military officials say, nearly two months after President Trump’s abrupt order to withdraw American troops opened the way for a bloody Turkish cross-border offensive.”
Bumbler.
MOSCOW (The Borowitz Report)—In a stunning rebuke of a former close political ally, Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday angrily resigned from Donald Trump’s 2020 reëlection campaign.
The abrupt resignation sent shockwaves through the Trump reëlection organization, for which Putin had served as chairman.
Putin’s sudden departure, which he announced during a joint appearance with the United States Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, appeared to catch the former ExxonMobil C.E.O. off guard.
“Given the recent actions of Donald Trump, I feel that I can no longer effectively serve as his campaign chairman,” Putin told reporters, while Tillerson looked on awkwardly.
In an unusually emotional comment by the Russian President, a visibly bitter Putin added, “I worked very hard on Trump’s 2016 campaign, and, at the end of the day, I have no more to show for it than Chris Christie does.”
At the White House, a source close to Trump said that he had not yet decided who would take Putin’s place in his 2020 campaign, but that it would “probably be Jared.”
Exchange of the Day
November 25, 2019 at 8:56 am EST
Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) was interviewed by Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday:
WALLACE: Senator Kennedy, who do you believe was responsible for hacking the DNC and Clinton campaign? Russia or Ukraine?
KENNEDY: I don’t know. Nor do you.
WALLACE: The entire intelligence community says it was Russia.
KENNEDY: Right. But it could be Ukraine. Fiona Hill is entitled to her opinion.
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Yes. But her opinion is based on credible facts while yours is based on thoroughly debunked and discredited propaganda.
8:22
LOL
@ByronYork
Theory: Before hearings, public heard Democratic media impeachment narrative. Trump abused power, engaged in quid pro quo/extortion/bribery, endangered national security. Support for impeachment grew. 1/3
Then hearings showed what impeachment was actually *about.* Significant part of public went: Huh? Support for impeachment began to trail off. 2/3
In other words, impeachment hearings had exactly opposite effect from Democratic hopes. They wanted compelling TV show to dramatize Trump wrongdoing. Instead, got insanely complicated bureaucratic tale, mostly about Ukraine. Sale not made. 3/3 End.
John Hayward Retweeted Byron York
Not to mention how many times the public got to watch preening bureaucrats explain how THEY really run U.S. policy and don't give a damn what voters think, or who they vote for
Jane, what good does it do to get Trade agreements when Palsy will not vote on them, against the will of her Fellow Democrats ?
"Rep. Axne’s (Democratic)
comments follow as a recent Emerson College poll found that only six percent of Iowa voters say that impeachment is the most important issue.
The freshman Democrat also explained that House Democrats “are very close to” passing the USMCA through Congress’ lower chamber."
Just to be clear, 8:15 was NOT Borowitz satire.
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Nor is this:
When this is over, when the lights are turned back on,
it will become clear that there were only two kinds of people:
Those who stood against Trump's corruption, cruelty
and degradation of American values,
and those who enabled him.
Walter Shaup
@NolteNC
If you want to know how bad polling is for Democrats and the media on impeachment, the fact that no polling has been released by the media this past week or weekend should answer that question.
SEEING HOW DESPERATE the LYING POS DEMOCRAT "pastor" james has become is a blessing.
AFFIRMATION that GOOD is WINNING over EVIL.
and THAT BOMBSHELLS are in sight.
THANK GOD for PRESIDENT TRUMP
Helsinki is the primary reason why we need to remove Donald Trump from the office.
There are exactly two possible explanations for the shameful performance the world witnessed on Monday, from a serving American president.
Either Donald Trump is flat-out an agent of Russian interests—maybe witting, maybe unwitting, from fear of blackmail, in hope of future deals, out of manly respect for Vladimir Putin, out of gratitude for Russia’s help during the election, out of pathetic inability to see beyond his 306 electoral votes. Whatever the exact mixture of motives might be, it doesn’t really matter.
Or he is so profoundly ignorant, insecure, and narcissistic that he did not realize that, at every step, he was advancing the line that Putin hoped he would advance, and the line that the American intelligence, defense, and law-enforcement agencies most dreaded.
Putin is chairman of the Republican's Presidential campaign committee.
BOMBSHELLS are in sight
Judge Will Rule Today on McGahn Subpoena
A federal judge has said she will rule by the end of the day on whether former White House counsel Donald McGahn must testify before Congress, MSNBC reports.
The ruling could have implications for the Trump administration officials who have refused to comply with congressional subpoenas in the impeachment inquiry.
LOL@MynameisRogernotAlky
Roger, why did your morally and financially bankrupt kids leave you homeless?
ReplyDelete
LOL@MynameisKansasDemocratnotpigfucker
How Approval Rate Can Predict Vote Share
Seth Masket finds a very strong correlation between presidential approval a year out from the election and vote share.
Based on President Trump’s 2019 approval rates, there are currently just six states that can be considered Toss Ups: Arizona, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
That’s identical to the latest consensus Electoral Vote Map.
Trump would need to win nearly all to win re-election!!!!
Test it out at 270towin.com.
Either Donald Trump is flat-out an agent of Russian interests—maybe witting, maybe unwitting, from fear of blackmail, in hope of future deals, out of manly respect for Vladimir Putin, out of gratitude for Russia’s help during the election, out of pathetic inability to see beyond his 306 electoral votes. Whatever the exact mixture of motives might be, it doesn’t really matter.
Or he is so profoundly ignorant, insecure, and narcissistic that he did not realize that, at every step, he was advancing the line that Putin hoped he would advance, and the line that the American intelligence, defense, and law-enforcement agencies most dreaded.
Putin is chairman of the Republican's Presidential campaign committee.
you kinda got carried away with that borowitz report, eh alky?
270 to win, eh pederast?
yeah, those guys sure nailed it the last time around...
The support for Impeachment after the Palsy-Schitt Show are dropping faster then Alky's networth.
Ok let's talk approval rating. Two pills out both saying 34% likely black voters approve of Trump. That spells disaster for dems.
@RepMarkMeadows
Remember: not only does the Democrats’ impeachment case fall short on the current fact pattern — they’re withholding facts that make their case even worse. The Mark Sandy deposition should be released immediately, for example. Some of his answers provided important context.
and refusing republican witnesses or any defense.
Only ultra=partisan POS lefty party members could support this.
Palsy said she would listen to the American people in all 50 States.
Did she mean it?
BREAKING: Defense Sec. Esper says President Trump directed him to allow Navy SEAL acquitted of war crimes to keep his elite status.
Remember all the way back to last Monday when the lefties were praising Ken Starr and saying how we must listen to him ? ANy word what they felt Tuesday?
Tim Young
@TimRunsHisMouth
WATCH: Ken Starr says there's no evidence of a high crime or misdemeanor... and the evidence that's been presented is ambiguous and conflicting at best. #ImpeachmentHearing
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1197515278474776576
see Ken Starr was honest, he read the prepared Sondland opening statement and reacted then heard the cross-examined testimony and then stated the obvious. Wonder if Schiff/staff orchestrated the opening remarks too. Good question to ask him under oath.
12 hours old news alky
The Federalist
@FDRLST
The latest hit on Rep. Devin Nunes is much more than peddling fake news: It is the repeat of a pattern the left has run for the last three years. And it was Rudy Giuliani who revealed the play.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/25/dont-let-lefts-cynical-hit-on-nunes-and-giuliani-work-again/
Acquitted but Roger wants to punish him anyway. The dem party way now?
Benny
@bennyjohnson
TRUMP PRESENTS ISIS KILLING DOG TO THE PRESS
The Presidents points at the media in the White House and says:
“I’ve heard a lot about this particular type of dog. It’s trained that if you open your mouths - you will be attacked.
You want to be very very careful.”
watch: https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1199023594162053123
I’ve never seen a political party work so hard to get rid of a president but not illegal immigrants, drug dealers and child traffickers.
Well that's not quite true, look what Hillary Clinton did to Jeffrey Epstein. 😁😁😁
Test it out at 270towin.com.
Funny when I tried it, Trump won with a 49 state landslide.
Can't imagine how that happened. 😊😊😊😊
BREAKING: Defense Sec. Esper says President Trump directed him to allow Navy SEAL acquitted of war crimes to keep his elite status.
Yeah, because the "review" was unconstitutional double-jeopardy as well as a kangaroo court.
And good order and discipline means following the lawful orders of your commander-in-Chief.
Can't imagine how that happened. 😊😊😊😊
You're in la la land, that's how.
You're a humorless ass James.
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