This doesn’t have to do with the impeachment vote itself, which will still happen tonight, but rather the handing off of the articles of impeachment to the Senate for trial.
That idea was first raised a few days ago by some of Twitter’s finest far-left minds, such as Lawrence Tribe. Others like Jennifer Rubin would parrot it as brilliant. My colleague streiff covered that in detail at the time, which you can read here.
Now, it looks like the idea has left social media and is actually being considered.
Sorry folks, but this isn't about anything other than cold feet. The Democrats know the second this thing hits the Senate that they lose control of the impeachment, the process, and most importantly the narrative. They know this thing has turned on them, and they are looking for a way to ease the fall.
The bigger problem for the Democrats is if they actually vote for the impeachment, then refuse to hand it over to the Senate for trial, they are effectively admitting that this isn't a serious process. They certainly cannot (moving forward) demand to continue to "investigate" after already making up their minds to impeach. That would be putting the cart before the horse and once again admitting that their entire process has nothing in common with anything actually loosely associated with the impeachment provided in the Constitution.
The reality here is that if Democrats impeach, but refuse to provide the articles to the Senate it would be like someone being indicted, but never actually charged with the crime. It would be like the entire impeachment process was a ruse, and we might actually be looking at legal and philosophical arguments as to whether an impeachment that you do not follow through with is actually a real impeachment.
But as any good prosecutor knows. You do not move forward with a case if you know you are going to lose. You pack it up, admit your defeat and move on! I think it's time for Pelosi, Schiff and gang to do just that... admit their defeat!
74 comments:
Sorry Scott, all you saw on the Republicans was a lot think of angry white men. No one of them defended the President and his actions.
Every 90 seconds or so another member of the House stepped up to the microphone to bless or condemn the impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump.
Hour after hour (after hour) it went on. Familiar faces. Not-so-familiar faces. Angry people. Somber people. A moment of silence for Trump voters. Citations of Scripture.
This was history, yes. Six hours of open debate split between the two parties in advance of a vote that would make Donald Trump only the third president ever impeached by the House.
But it was also a telling glimpse of where our politics is -- and a glimpse into what it will look like for the near future.
As soon as one Republican would finish slamming the articles of impeachment as a product of a Democratic Party that has never been able to get over its loss in 2016, a Democrat insisting that Trump had knowingly sought to pressure a foreign power for his own benefit would begin.
They all believe your deep state conspiracy theories. Tweets from a few Democrats who tweeted impeachment hearings on January 20th of 2017: 3:00 EST.
You pack it up, admit your defeat and move on! I think it's time forever Scott A**hole, because you hate liberals so badly that you have not defended the president's actions no matter what he said about anything. Including walking down 5th street alone tomorrow and shooting Moose Limbs and beaners.
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/12/18/democrats-start-get-cold-feet-pelosi-reportedly-considering-impeachment-delay/
Here is staggering evidence of your plagiarist status
The Point with Chris Cillizza - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/the-point-with-chris-cillizza?utm_source=zeta&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The+Point+-+December+18%2C+2019&bt_ee=uQD2ZMwh65gPGb63iU2M45y%2F8utQLBEsLRWgIn9rsSAG9ryO7LDh2nVWAtd6sTWg&bt_ts=1576711864880
Roger - the block quote in italics means that it is from another article. It's not intended to make anyone believe I wrote that portion.
It's official!
Opposition to impeachment is bi-partisan!
Let's be clear Rog...
Democrats are trivializing the impeachment. There was no actual crime alleged. They absolutely knew 100% that they would not get GOP support. They knew it was going no-where.
He has impeached!!!!!!
Scott, the Constitution impeachment doesn't require prove a broken law to impeach any Executive branch leaders.
The allegations
* were the phone call the President of Ukraine.
* abuse of power by withholding the military aid to the Constitution of Ukrain.
* the failure to provide the information from that may provide information that may prove him innocent.
I provided the link
abuse of power by withholding the military aid to the nation of Ukrain.
It may take them a considerable time before she sends them the indictments.
Scott, the Constitution impeachment doesn't require prove a broken law to impeach any Executive branch leaders.
Treason, bribery, high crimes, and misdemeanors.
All sounds like crimes to me...
No other President has ever been impeached that didn't commit a crime.
It may take them a considerable time before she sends them the indictments.
A good prosecutor will not play a losing hand.
I hope Pelosi gives up... as she should.
She will lose either way!
The First Vote Polosi held was Bi-Partisan AGAINST.
This vote Polosi held was Bi-Partisan AGAINST .
Sorry Scott, all you saw on the Republicans was a lot think of angry white men. No one of them defended the President and his actions.
Whaaa??
You post the same gibberish on 2 threads??
Republicans are preparing to follow the example of their House colleagues, though many know better. Not so very long ago, several of them — including Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, even the majority leader, Mitch McConnell — warned that Donald Trump was wrong for the country. Lindsey Graham memorably called Mr. Trump “a race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot” who was “unfit for office.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/opinion/trump-impeachment-vote.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
Tomorrow the Three Socialist Stooges of CHT will awake to Donald J. Trump still being your President.
Then Thete is Alky Stupid.
"Roger Amick. December 18, 2019 at 8:18 PM
He has impeached!!!!!!"
Lol@BrokenAlky
COCAINE MITCH DON’T MESS AROUND:
McConnell fires back: Let’s adopt the 1999 rules — with the option for dismissal. “Remember when the Senate could come to a unanimous, bipartisan approach to rules governing an impeachment trial? Good times, good times. In fact, those were such good times that Mitch McConnell wants to bring them back. Rather than keep having his counterpart Chuck Schumer negotiate via MSNBC, the Senate Majority Leader announced that he’ll simply reinstate the rules package that governed Bill Clinton’s impeachment twenty years ago. By the way, that also includes a dismissal option.”
Plus: “It’s not just Schumer who will be stuck in a vise. Voters will likely see this re-use of previously unanimous rules as a reasonable and fair approach. Any Democrats who vote against this set of rules will have to explain why they suited Bill Clinton’s impeachment but aren’t sufficient for Donald Trump’s. The only substantial difference between them is that Clinton’s impeachment clearly established a statutory crime (perjury), while House Democrats have established nothing of the sort, and are relying solely on hearsay and conjecture for both articles of impeachment.”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/351949/#respond
Exactly how to do this.
meanwhile, back in America:
A federal appeals court on Wednesday ruled that ObamaCare's individual mandate is unconstitutional but punted on the larger question of what it means for the rest of the health law.
The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans remanded the case back to a federal judge in Texas to decide just how much of the rest of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), if any, is also unconstitutional.
"The rule of law demands a careful, precise explanation of whether the provisions of the ACA are affected by the unconstitutionality of the individual mandate as it exists today," the judges wrote for the majority.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/475186-appeals-court-strikes-obamacare-mandate-sends-case-back-to-lower-court
heh. so... economically and constitutionally, the steaming shitpile of 0linsky-care continues slowly stagger and collapse under its own weight.
The rule of law is a cornerstone of American democracy and is integral to the U.S. Constitution. It stands for the principles that no person is beneath the laws’ protections. No person is above the laws’ requirements. And the laws apply equally to all people. That is the theory of the rule of law.
In practice, as the power of the federal government has grown almost exponentially since 1789 and the power of the presidency has grown with it, presidents have claimed immunity from the need to comply with the law while in office. They have also claimed immunity from the consequences of the failure to comply with the law.
That immunity claim is predicated upon the belief that if the president committed a criminal offense and was charged and prosecuted while in office, the diversion of his energies to his defense would interfere substantially with his ability to do his job, which could jeopardize national security.
President Trump has 3 point higher Approval rating then Obam a at this time in thier first term.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/18/trump-impeachment-undisputed-evidence-that-he-abus/
Blogger Roger Amick said...
It may take them a considerable time before she sends them the indictments.
we can only hope, eh alky?
you see, there are 31 democrat reps who need this thing to go away like yesterday. these folks are fucking desperate to put this mess in their rear view mirror as quickly as possible, with the hopes that their constituents will forget about the whole thing, which they need to save their sorry asses.
me? i'd like to see mitch take his sweet time on the deal. and if ol' poli-grip pelosi would like to help him out by a delay in sending the articles to the senate, well by george, we'll take it.
in case you haven't figured it out yet alky, last night's dem victory was pyrrhic. and how this plays out for the dems going forward is something of a hobson's choice.
holding back on sending the articles renders them more meaningless each day they're delayed, and by instituting the 1999 rules that bubba was impeached by puts the senate dems in a box.
so what have YOU gained?
not much.
you get to put an asterisk next to trump's name in the history books. that's about it.
what you've ceded is that you've accelerated the 2020 general campaign. thanks to this fiasco, a process that normally doesn't really get underway until a dem nominee is selected in reality begins NOW. as does the increased support, massive fundraising, and all that would accompany a trump re-election effort.
so good job, alky. what you assholes accomplished last night could in fact be considered the greatest single in-kind campaign contribution the trump campaign will receive. and for that we thank you.
Trump impeachment: Undisputed evidence that he abused his power
By Andrew P. Napolitano - -
a copy-paste from ol' judge napolitano alky?
LOL.
he's been pissed at trump ever since being passed over for the USSC.
what else ya got?
perhaps you could try something in your own feeble words?
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/18/trump-impeachment-undisputed-evidence-that-he-abus/
Andrew P. Napolitano - -
Fox News
Trump impeachment: Undisputed evidence that he abused his power.
oh, and btw alky, i completely agree with what judge napolitano wrote.
every single word of it, in fact.
too bad absolutely none of it applies to this particular situation with trump & ukraine.
the judge specifically refers to "compliance with the law" and "commission of a criminal offense"...
...neither of which the democrats could muster in the articles of impeachment.
abuse of power and obstruction of congress are not crimes, alky.
they are a descriptor of democrat butt-hurt, and a pre-emptive attempt to remove a man from office they have conceded that they cannot beat on election day.
since january 20th 2017, congress has abused more power than trump could have ever dreamed of. and obstruction of congress? LOL. the courts have just ruled that trump can avail himself of a legal defense, which effectively renders this point moot.
I see Roger is quoting a complete failure, himself.
This is Alky Stupid
"abuse of power by withholding the military aid to the Constitution of Ukrain."
Any one got a Alky to English language Translator.
Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
I see Roger is quoting a complete failure, himself.
the nurses at shady pines nursing home must have really upped his meds.
i haven't seen him this fucked up since he emerged from his transplant surgery and THAT epic state of delirium.
He is very unstable.
Roger, when did you put up your Christmas Tree? with all your lights and life long accumulate Ornaments?
You know the ones your wives gave you and the ones your parents passed down, OH and don't forget the ones your KIDS made , those are the best keepsakes .
Roger AmickDecember 18, 2019 at 8:28 PM
Scott, the Constitution impeachment doesn't require prove a broken law to impeach any Executive branch leaders.
The allegations
* were the phone call the President of Ukraine.
* abuse of power by withholding the military aid to the new Democratic republic of Ukrain to dirt on Biden and his son. "please do us a favor.
* the failure to provide the information from that may provide information he shouldn't be afraid to respond with the subpoenas
Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
He is very unstable.
Yes he is goat fucker.....probably more unstable than you and your worthless life
he's been pissed at trump ever since being passed over for the USSC.
Another empty opinion from the empty head of the NY loser asshole.....yeah.....that's it.....BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Dumb fucking loser!!!!
Dystopia Denny
admits Alky is "unstable"
Trump achieves another first......Being impeached in his first term is a record that will stand as his legacy!!!!! Good job donnie!!!!
And those small government spending R's have ceded record deficits for years and not a single R yesterday said trump was an honorable man......BWAAAAAAA!!! But they did equate him to Jesus more than once which seems a great stretch even for idiots like you!!!!!!
And the goat fucking asshole continues up the rectum of trump!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Your new word is very humorous and telling of your dysfunctional life living on your dead parent who are looking up at you!!!!!!! That is funny!!!!!!
the failure to provide the information from that may provide information he shouldn't be afraid to respond with the subpoenas
Whaaa?
Palsy Partied Last Night.
Two votes Held both Bi-Partisan AGAINST .
Another tea bagger small government low spending failure to leave congress.....GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE.....maybe some real conservatives will take their heads out of trumps old fat white ass and lead instead of slurp!!!!!!
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Rep. Mark Meadows, close ally of Trump, to retire from Congress
The conservative lawmaker from North Carolina said his work with the president would continue.
She did not prove anything.
""We'll make a decision as a group, as we always have, as we go along," Palsy
Cali Unstable Alky posted this then delete it. but then his repost included your quoted fuck up.
"This is Alky Stupid
"abuse of power by withholding the military aid to the Constitution of Ukrain." Unstable Alky
Another scumbag
Washington (CNN) - Republican Rep. Mark Meadows, one of President Donald Trump's most visible allies on Capitol Hill, is not seeking reelection in 2020, he announced in a statement Thursday.
Anyone else having trouble posting?
KansasDemocrat said...
She did not prove anything.
While all you prove 24/7 is your unlimited stupidity goat fucker.....You win another first....just like trumps record of being impeached in his first term and history will judge as the new age Millard Filmore....!!!!!!
rrb said:
"McConnell fires back: Let’s adopt the 1999 rules — with the option for dismissal. “Remember when the Senate could come to a unanimous, bipartisan approach to rules governing an impeachment trial? Good times, good times. In fact, those were such good times that Mitch McConnell wants to bring them back. Rather than keep having his counterpart Chuck Schumer negotiate via MSNBC, the Senate Majority Leader announced that he’ll simply reinstate the rules package that governed Bill Clinton’s impeachment twenty years ago. By the way, that also includes a dismissal option.”
Excellent and fair. Bi-partisan. Easy to understand.
so of course the dems are scurrying around like cockroaches.
look at lo iq.
ROFLMFAO !!!
John Hayward
@Doc_0
Skeptics: This couldn't look like any more of a partisan farce
Pelosi: Hold my beer
The asshole coward again cannot post his own thoughts and depends on fake news tweets to support his own biased and idiotic opinion,......Sad, he is too stupid to realize he cannot think on his own.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! So much stupid in one person!!!!!!
Anonymous cowardly king obama said...
rrb said:
No he didn't.....he stole that from the infamous and pile of steaming shit site......PJ Media.....BWAAAAAA easy for idiot cowards to understand because it is written at a second grade level for dumbasses like him to understand.......LOLOLOLOLO
Merry Impeachmas Party for the Washington Post team.
Unbiased journalists or FAKE NEWS ?
pretty obvious. except maybe to lo iq.
All day, every day long cut-and-pastes or BWAAAAAAA!!!!
and nothing else.
ROFLMFAO at the little twerp !!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1207648654477209600
Hey lo iq "anonymous"
We all know you are REALLY SLOW
EVERYOONE here knows that rrb was not the original source. But when he posted it it became "rrb said". He even posted the link to the source.
Must be very tough to go through life with EVERYONE LAUGING AT YOU.
Try posting less stupid stuff and you won't need to experience that so much.
Of course you own stupid.
ROFLMFAO at the little twerp who can't understand shit !!!
* EVERYONE
ROFLMFAO !!!
* LAUGHING !!!
ROFLMFAO !!!
The typical dumb fuck coward responds with what he does best......laughing like an idiot!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!! God you are a naive fool!!!!!!!
.laughing like an idiot!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Dripping with irony!
"
MyballsDecember 19, 2019 at 7:41 AM
Anyone else having trouble posting?"
No
But the Alky is on a Jibberish Role.
"
MyballsDecember 19, 2019 at 7:41 AM
Anyone else having trouble posting?"
No
But the Alky is on a Jibberish Role.
Here we have the definitive proof that the Impeachment is wrong....Donnie's butt buddy putin chimes in and agrees that trump is being railroaded....AIN"T THAT RICH EVEN DUMBASS COWARDS SUPPORT THE FRAUD IN CHIEF!!!!!! Now instead of country first......putin is an ally!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!
y Vladimir Soldatkin and Andrew Osborn
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that U.S. Democrats had impeached President Donald Trump for "fabricated" reasons in order to reverse his 2016 election victory.
Putin, speaking at his annual year-end news conference, said he expected Trump to survive the proceedings and stay in office.
The U.S. House of Representatives voted on Wednesday to impeach Trump, but Putin, like most observers, said he expected the Republican Senate to acquit him.
"It's unlikely they will want to remove from power a representative of their party based on what are, in my opinion, completely fabricated reasons," said Putin.
"This is simply a continuation of the (U.S.) intra-political battle where one party that lost an election, the Democratic Party, is trying to achieve results using other methods and means.
C.H. Truth said...
.laughing like an idiot!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Dripping with irony!
He will fail to understand that.
Latest post:
cut-and-paste - check
no source link - check
BWAAAAAAA!!! - check
lo iq - checkmate
God you fucking coward....the irony is you have less than nothing.....as the wo old passes you and the bigot Lil Scotty by......BWAAAAAAAA!!!!! Both of you respect Putin and his takeover of trump and don't give a shit about the country!!!!
Palsy Failure.
calm down lo iq
*pats him on his head*
we understand you were born with your limitations and all the posturing in the world won't change that.
go and take another nap, nothing you do will change anything nor you
And you obviously know nothing about me, and the next 5 years are going to be VERY hard on you.
Lol
Palsy refuses to take question from the Press on her Impeachment.
The fucking coward repeats the same thing over and over and expects it to sound intelligent!!!!!! Wow.....not only delusional, but lost in his world of idiocy!!!!! There is nothing to know about you other than you slurp trumps ass because you don't have any grey matter that works....Yeah....gotta suck to be a troll for trump on a loser blog like this.....YOU WIN!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
lo iq said The fucking coward repeats the same thing over and over and expects it to sound intelligent!!!!!! … BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Why do dems always accuse Republicans of what they themselves are guilty of?
GOOD JOB lo iq "anonymous"
ROFLMFAO !!!
The unknown fucking coward repeats the same ol same ol......again and again......Too fucking funny......and another sign of complete retardation and trump slurping disorder!!!!!!!!!
Some of us just get a kick out of punching you in the face lo iq, as easy as that is.
You must be used to it.
Everyone does it to you.
Must suck to be even weaker than the average dem. But you can't help but try and respond. weaker and weaker.
ROFLMFAO at lo iq.
* !!!
ROFLMFAO !!!
Anonymous cowardly king obama said...
* !!!
ROFLMFAO !!!
Dumb fucking coward showing his IQ again.....BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
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