Monday, December 16, 2019

This is an interesting take?

When a supposed constitutional law experts tosses constitution aside for partisanship! 

So let's get this straight. The constitution declares that the House hold impeachment hearings and that if the House votes to impeach that the Senate hold a trial. But after the House Democrats ran their impeachment hearings in a secret basement location, selectively leaked information, and then only allowed witnesses that they wanted to hear from testify in public... we should then completely ignore the constitutional concept of a Senate trial if the GOP doesn't capitulate to the Democrats during the Senate trial as well?

Let's make this abundantly clear. Tribe was one of many who demanded that the House did not have to run the impeachment hearings like previous impeachment hearings were ran. He ran hard and fast with the liberal logic that how the impeachment hearings were run were entirely up to the majority and that was perfectly constitutionally acceptable. Perhaps it was.

But if there is nothing to determine (other than majority rule partisanship) how the House runs an impeachment, how do you make the argument that the Constitution sets some sort of standard for the Senate to hold a trial? You cannot possible argue (either constitutionally or logically) that what is good for the House is no longer good for the Senate. That unless McConnell and the GOP agree to run things the way Tribe and others would like, that somehow "this" is a violation of the constitution?

Moreover, it would appear that Tribe is of the thought pattern that the articles of impeachment should not actually be handed over to the Senate in large part because it is completely 100% assured that doing so will actually result in the acquittal of the President (likely with more Democratic defections than GOP defections). The logical problem here is that while this "is" a jury trial situation, there is nothing in the Constitution that demands an open mind in situations where the House has clearly not made a reasonable case.

More to the point: there is no more reason for the Senate "jury" to hold any more of an open mind than the House "grand jury" was holding when they prejudged the existing articles of impeachment. In fact, many had openly prejudged the idea that Trump need to be impeached for "something or anything". Remember the "impeach the motherfucker" video? Would that person ever been put on any grand jury in real life?

Lawrence Tribe has ceased being any sort of legal expert, and is now little more than a hate-filled anti-Constitution TDS inflicted old man. It's a pity.

42 comments:

Anonymous said...




this whole impeachment farce starts making sense once you accept it for what it is and what it isn't.

what it isn't is a serious, informed and thoughtful effort to remove this president.

what it IS is pure political theatre conducted solely for the benefit of the low-information, TDS-afflicted, rabid left.

there's nothing of actual value here. nothing at all. and if i'm the senate GOP i'm torn between wanting to just sweep this out of the way as quickly as possible, and dragging it on for as long as possible for the sole purpose of inflicting a maximum amount of political damage to the democrats.

i'm leaning towards the latter. at some point the GOP needs to sack up and take it to these traitorous fucking democrat scum. burn them to the fucking ground.


oh, and by the way:


Dow gains 10,000th point since Trump's election

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/dow-gains-10000th-point-since-trumps-election

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Catturd
@catturd2


Impeachment Backfiring: SECOND Democrat Leaves The Party In 24 Hours

State Senator John Yudichak of Luzerne County, Pennsylvania said that he will be switching his registration to become an Independent. He will caucus with the Republican majority.

Yudichak has criticized an increasingly liberal Democratic caucus that has led to this decision.


https://www.diamondandsilk.com/blog/2019/12/15/impeachment-backfiring-second-democrat-leaves-the-party-in-24-hours/

Anonymous said...




Texas Democrat Doubles Down On Wishing Barack Obama Had Cancer


https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/16/texas-democrat-justin-lecea-obama-cancer/



the democrats are all fucking crazy.


Anonymous said...




accepting blood money from terrorists -

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Clinton Foundation has confirmed it accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was U.S. secretary of state without informing the State Department, even though she had promised to let the agency review new or significantly increased support from foreign governments.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-foundation-idUSKBN12Z2SL

C.H. Truth said...

I noticed that even the three stooges are not backing this nonsense!

Or at least they are not making any real effort to!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Half of Americans Want Trump Impeached and Removed
December 16, 2019 at 12:56 pm EST

A Fox News poll found that 50% of Americans want President Trump impeached and removed from office, while 41% believe he shouldn’t be impeached.

Key finding: While 85% of Democrats favor impeachment and removal and 84% of Republicans don’t, there’s a new high in support for impeachment among independents – 45% now favor it, compared to 38% in October.

Vox: “Trump boasted that his polls are ‘through the roof.’ Fox News quickly proved him wrong.”

Anonymous said...

You can't remove him now or On November 3rd.

The 33 to 37 % shift in the Black voter to Trump is to be expected.

Anonymous said...

The public fight between the Socialist Democrats and the DNC is so fun to witness. The DNC Super Deligates are still the King Maker, nothing changed.

Anonymous said...

Look at what Alky level stupid looks like.

"Appearing Monday on CNN’s New Day, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) claimed it would be a “distraction” if Hunter Biden testified as part of a Senate impeachment trial."

Anonymous said...




I noticed that even the three stooges are not backing this nonsense!


probably because no one on the pro-impeachment side of the argument has a shred of credibility left.

everything the democrats have done so far has been underhanded, dishonest, and corrupt. schiiff and nadler have screwed the pooch so fucking badly i don't see how senate democrats can expect to proceed with any sense of legitimacy or basic decorum.

and if you noticed, the alky has been reduced to hiding behind another one of his chtsucks.org aliases.





JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

If the "pastor" had actually read what CHT posted earlier he would not be so misinformed.

The truth is that none of the recent polling shows either any movement towards impeachment or any tangible evidence that independents are backing it. Even the recent Fox news poll shows independents virtually split, and the only reason the "yes" was stronger than the "no" was due to a partisan breakdown of the sample that had 45% of them voting in the Democratic Primary. The USA today poll showed support within both the Democratic and Independent ranks losing steam, with Independents now opposing it by double digits

political_lire didn't cover this...

Anonymous said...




In coming weeks Senate Democrats will insist on hearing testimony House Democrats didn't even try to hear. Might be a tough argument to make. House has made its case. Time for Senate to judge.

Democratic pre-trial trolling strategy already clear. We need new witnesses! What does Mitch McConnell have to hide? What are they afraid of? New witnesses, new evidence. Americans deserve the whole story. (Except for 'distractions' like Hunter Biden or whistleblower.)

Schumer and other veteran Democrats will totally flip their positions from 1999. Their argument will be: It's OK because that was a Bad Impeachment and this is a Good Impeachment.


https://twitter.com/ByronYork


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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137IQ said...

S. Scott A**hole has ceased being any sort of legal expert self proclaimed truth speaker, and is now little more than a hate-filled anti-Constitution inflicted old man with Trumpism stage four brain cancer victim.
It's a pity.

Anonymous said...

Exactly Rrb, the trial was held, now the Senate's job is to Acquit on all TRUMPED up non-scene charges.


When Schitt announced he would refuse to testify in the US Senate. Killing article two all by himself.

Anonymous said...

of course Alky will dazzle us by telling us exactly where the gratuitous host CHT is "anti-Constitution".

Anonymous said...



Anonymous 137IQ said...


137 IQ, eh alky?

seriously, i think that ship has definitively sailed.

psychological projection however, you seem to have mastered:

S. Scott A**hole has ceased being any sort of legal expert self proclaimed truth speaker, and is now little more than a hate-filled anti-Constitution inflicted old man with Trumpism stage four brain cancer victim.
It's a pity.



btw alky, which one of you brain damaged geezers gets to dress up as the assisted living center santa claus?

you being the new guy you should get the "honor" no?

anonymous said...

And the goat fucking trump slurper will forever dazzle the world with his stupidity!!!!!! You win!!!!!

Commonsense said...

Why Democrats are desperate to remove Trump from office.

Black voter support for Trump at ‘highest levels’ and could seal 2020 win

A growing number of polls show that President Trump is gaining the support of black voters above what any Republican president has ever received. Both Emerson Polling and Rasmussen Reports have it at about 34%, a stunning number.

And a new Zogby Analytics survey found that African American support is at the “highest levels of the year,” driven by a strong economy, historically low black unemployment, and Trump’s agenda to support minority small businesses, historically black colleges and universities, and passage of criminal justice reform.


Democrats need 90% of the black vote to have a chance of winning. This is landslide territory.

Commonsense said...

Two polls out today on impeachment, both disasters for Washington Democrats:

USA Today:
41% support
56% oppose
Independents oppose by 11 points

Quinnipiac:
45% support
51% oppose
Independents oppose by 22 (!) points, 58-36

Anonymous said...

They Lost.

So what is thier next move?

Running old tired white Socialist looks to be the game so far as thier voters reject Canidates that are female and black and Hispanic.

anonymous said...

Rasmussen Reports have it at about 34%, a stunning number.

BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Just as believable as that fox poll from yesterday that you hated!!!!! LOLOLOLOLO

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump Told the ‘Lie of the Year’
December 16, 2019 at 4:11 pm EST

PolitiFact announced that President Trump’s claim that the Ukraine whistleblower was “almost completely wrong” is the “Lie of the Year.”

Commonsense said...

That cements Politifact's reputation as an unserious website.

Commonsense said...

Poor Denny.

Rasmussen Reports have it at about 34%, a stunning number.
BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!


A funny thing happen on the way to the Democrat's "demographics is destiny" nirvana.

Anonymous said...

Dopie you speak Alky, wtf is he saying.

"of course Alky will dazzle us by telling us exactly where the gratuitous host CHT is "anti-Constitution"."

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Anonymous said...

How does Politilacky know what exactly the so called whistler said?

Will they be releasing a transcript and source, or, will it be more bs?

Anonymous said...

Socialist Democrats please continue.

"HANNAH BLEAU 16 Dec 2019 

The Democrats’ partisan impeachment effort is beginning to have an effect on the 2020 race, with voters shifting to President Trump over his top potential contenders in the Democrat field, an IBD/TIPP poll released Monday indicates."

Anonymous said...

For those who take polling seriously.
"A Rasmussen poll released Monday found 52 percent of likely U.S. voters say senior law enforcement officials broke the law in seeking to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president in 2016"

Anonymous said...




A growing number of polls show that President Trump is gaining the support of black voters above what any Republican president has ever received. Both Emerson Polling and Rasmussen Reports have it at about 34%, a stunning number.


and several of the mainstream media outlets are actually reporting this as "black voter suppression."

i guess the logic is that if a black voter is going to stray from the democrat plantation, their vote is being "suppressed" or something.

i don't even know where to begin to try and understand the left anymore. seriously. these people are so irredeemably fucked in the head, i don't see how they can even safely leave their house each day.

Commonsense said...

#NEW National General Election:

Trump 44 (+3)
Biden 41

Trump 44 (+5)
Sanders 39

Trump 45 (+8)
Warren 37

Trump 43 (+9)
Bloomberg 34

Trump 43 (+10)
Buttigieg 33

Suffolk University/USA Today Poll

Myballs said...

Comey finally admits the FBI misled the fisa court and this goes unreported by ABC, NBC and CBS.

This is why Trump voters keep sticking with him.

anonymous said...

e fisa court and this goes unreported by ABC, NBC and CBS.

This is why Trump voters keep sticking with him.


BULLSHIT!!!!! The all covered the story you fucking loser!!!!! The reason you and the rest are sticking with the liar in chief is that you are all too stupid to pull your head out of his old fat white ass!!!!!!!

anonymous said...

As usual, the ball less wonder mispreprested what comey said.....typical of low intellect trump slurpers!!!!!!



The report, released last week, found no evidence that the FBI’s decision to open the investigation was motivated by political bias as Trump has repeatedly claimed. However, FBI attorneys failed to properly vet applications to monitor the communications of a former Trump campaign aide, according to the report.

Comey, during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” defended the overall scope of the investigation but admitted that the FBI acted with “real sloppiness” in securing warrants from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

“The FBI was accused of treason, of illegal spying, of tapping Mr. Trump’s wires illegally, of opening an investigation without justification, of being a criminal conspiracy to defeat and then unseat a president ― all of that was nonsense,” Comey said.

He added: “But [Justice Department inspector general Michael Horowitz] also found things we were never accused of which was real sloppiness and that’s concerning.”

Anonymous said...

The Federal Courts are being change for the next Generation.

50 New Younger and Constitutionally minded Judges.

During the Lost Years the Lazy Pres did only 55.

Anonymous said...

Scmucker cry babying about "fairness" in the impeachy thingy is too funny.

anonymous said...

During the Lost Years the Lazy Press did only 55.


Because jowls McConnell held them up like everything else he does....party before country which the goat fucking loser embraces!!!!!! Too fucking funny!!!!

caliphate4vr said...

Reason 8059 why the donks are scared of anyone looking more deeply into Ukraine. Drain the SWAMP

Robert Powell, the husband of Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, D-Fla., reportedly took $700,000 from a Ukrainian oligarch named Igor Kolomoisky. Mucarsel-Powell sits on the House Judiciary Committee, the committee that drafted two articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump for his alleged abuse of power with regards to Ukraine.

In 2018, the Daily Beast reported that a number of businesses linked to Kolomoisky hired Powell as an attorney. One of those firms paid Powell at least $700,000 over two years, according to public records.


The Miami Herald reported Powell was working for companies tied to Kolomoisky for 10 years. Powell made most of his money in the two years leading up to his wife’s election in 2018.

Kolomoisky has been accused of contract killings and embezzlement in the past. Yet, in 2018 when Mucarsel-Powell was running for her seat, she did not see her husband’s work as relevant to her campaign.

“Debbie Mucrasel-Powell is running for Congress, not her husband. To imply that Debbie has anything to do with her indirect shareholder of a parent company that once employed her husband is an enormous stretch,” said Michael Hernandez, senior communications advisor for her campaign in 2018.

While Mucrasel-Powell may have convinced her constituents that her husband’s work is unrelated, it is a clear conflict in the current impeachment of Trump. Mucarsel-Powell voted to impeach Trump.

Anonymous said...

Typical Socialist Dopie, blame others for your teams Failure.

Wasn't your Lost Years guy so smart, yet did so very little and almost all of it has been Erased.

Anonymous said...

The Depression/Recession narrative of the left is getting murdered by the The Wealth being created by the US under this President.

"all indices are collapsing" Dystopian Dopie

Actually so very wrong. ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️


Housing starts Nov. 1.365 ⬆️
Building permits Nov. 1.482 ⬆️
Industrial productionNov.1.1% ⬆️
Capacity utilization Nov. 77.3% ⬆️

Myballs said...

We don't call him dopey for nothing