Friday, May 29, 2020

Third degree murder and manslaughter...

Derek Chauvin charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd
Minnesota law originally defined third-degree murder solely as depraved-heart murder ("without intent to effect the death of any person, caus[ing] the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life").[7][8] In 1987, an additional drug-related provision ("without intent to cause death, proximately caus[ing] the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II") was added to the definition of third-degree murder.[7][9] Up until the early 2000s, prosecutions under that provision were rare, but they began to rise in the 2010s. Some reports linked this increase in prosecutions to the opioid epidemic in the United States.[10]

So basically third degree murder is a step above manslaughter, but not quite second degree murder, which I guess effectively means that they do not believe that Chauvin "intended" to kill Floyd, but that his actions were more dangerous than what a regular manslaughter charge would entail. Generally you think of manslaughter coming something careless or reckless, but without necessarily an intent to do anything that would usually cause a death.

If you are looking for a layman's opinion on what this all means, it seems to me that the state is providing some leeway for a plea that would remove the potential murder charge in favor of a guilty plea to manslaughter. I could be wrong and we could be headed for a serious trial down the road. But I am guessing that everyone will want to put this to rest pretty quickly.

60 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Before you call the cops...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKeITMzMn7w

Anonymous said...

Fair Charges, fits what he did in killing Pink.

Anonymous said...

That Man in the video is better in many ways then James.
He is on par with me.

Anonymous said...

CHT is it true that the local police ran in fear and allowed the thugs to destroy the Police station?

Anonymous said...




The Minnesota Star-Tribune reports:

‘Chauvin was one of six officers who fired on and killed Wayne Reyes in 2006 after Reyes reportedly aimed a shotgun at police after stabbing his friend and girlfriend. While the death happened during Klobuchar’s tenure at the helm of the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office, the case did not go to a grand jury until after she left the office and became a senator.’


https://spectator.us/amy-klobuchar-vp-prospects-over/


buh bye amy.



Commonsense said...

Yes, but to be fair they didn't get any backup and were forbidden to defend themselves with deadly force.

Frey made the decision to turn the neighborhood over to the thugs and let it burn.

Anonymous said...

"buh bye amy."

Yep, she is the wrong color , Basement Biden has to pick on the color of her skin.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The man in that video is a saint compared to you.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

New Video Shows Three Officers Pinning Down Floyd

A newly-surfaced video of the arrest of George Floyd shows three Minneapolis police pinning the unarmed, handcuffed man on the ground while another officer stands nearby, NBC News reports.

The angle of the video has not been seen previously.

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Only one arrest?

Anonymous said...

CommonSense, that is a complete breakdown at the top.
The Mayor should resign and take the Top Cop with him.

Anonymous said...

James are you a Veteran?
That Man and I am.

Anonymous said...



Frey made the decision to turn the neighborhood over to the thugs and let it burn.


yep.

and for one very simple and very stupid reason -

every liberal's worst nightmare is to be called a RAY-CISS.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

the newly surfaced video showing three officers pinning Floyd down

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAqt_gHgAxk/?utm_source=ig_embed

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

A DECENT CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT SPEAKS

Biden Addresses Nation on Murder of George Floyd

Joe Biden addressed the nation after speaking with George Floyd’s family.

Said Biden:
“The original sin of this country still stains our nation today and sometimes we managed to overlook it. But it’s always there. And in weeks like this, we see it plainly that we are a country with an open wound.”

He added:
“None of us can be silent. None of us can … hear the words ‘I can’t breathe’ and do nothing.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump Refused to Address Death of George Floyd
-----AND LEFT WITHOUT TAKING QUESTIONS

President Trump held what was billed as a news conference by the White House
and briefly spoke about U.S. policy towards China and “terminating” the U.S. relationship with the WHO but did not address the death of George Floyd or the protests breaking out across the country.

He left the podium without taking any questions.

Earlier on Twitter, Trump attempted to clean up a statement which many felt was inciting further violence in Minneapolis.
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Even he is beginning to realize what deep trouble he is in, and that each time he opens his mouth, he only makes it worse.

Anonymous said...




He added:

“None of us can be silent. None of us can … hear the words ‘Then you ain't black!’ and do nothing.”



Anonymous said...

Trump Refused to Address Death of George Floyd


a lie.

he addressed it on twitter.

just because he chose a different platform than you would prefer does not mean he refused to address it.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

All Trump would have had to do was to take questions. He would then have had ample opportunity to address Floyd's death.
Instead, he turned tail and ran.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

.
*** NOTICE OF CONSTANT SPAMMING and USE OF TAEGAN GODDARD's POLITICAL_LIRE ***

Regular readers of this blog know the constant spamming, lying and obsession for that left-wing Taegan Goddard blog by a certain poster. That poster james, also called the "pastor" (which he claims to be even if you can't tell by his actions) is the POS responsible and considers his mindless rude behavior his hobby. Sometimes he credits Taegan Goddard, sometimes he doesn't.

He has descended so far into TDS and desperation he fills every discussion thread with what people have described as an avalanche of spam. If this is being posted today is no different. He even gets his edited news from that site and spams that if he thinks it will hurt Trump. Every day he repeats what that site posts, regardless of topic. It gets so bad he feels the need to even repeat his spam multiple times in a single thread as well as posting in every active thread the very same spam.

He has exhibited the same mental deterioration as Joe Biden and his postings should be given the same consideration. Both their heads will probably explode when it becomes obvious that Trump will win a second term. Biden will not even notice his head did.

I'm JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY and I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE


Trump has take at least 20x times the questions than Obama

And from a hostile press.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

* - taken

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LOL He sure didn't take any questions at that presser.
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CBR
@AdkCheryl
The whiney man-child makes the nation wait for his presser & perhaps some leadership regarding coronavirus & Minneapolis. Nope, he reads a few words from a teleprompter about China & WHO then turns & runs because he's a CHICKEN & no leader. #TrumpHasNoPlan #TrumpDeathToll103K
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The Last Centurion
@KellysEncanta

We are watching the fall of America in real time.

Because of one #traitor.

And a party that refuses to hold him accountable.

Commonsense said...

Biden hid in a bunker for three months avoiding even the friendly press (by far the majority) don't tell me who the real chickenshit is.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

while james is outraged Trump is acting like Obama and not taking questions here's his current candidate ROFLMFAO !!!

Molly Nagle
@MollyNagle3

NEW:
@JoeBiden's campaign is out with a new statement from
@BillR on Trump's EO, saying it "not only constitutes an extreme abuse of power, it also demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the role and function of the federal government."


Zach Parkinson
@AZachParkinson

Unreal. It's like the Biden campaign doesn't even track what their candidate says.

Here's Biden in December, telling the New York Times editorial board that "Section 230 should be revoked immediately" for tech companies

"It should be revoked. It should be revoked."

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/AZachParkinson/status/1266187699603623938


just a senile demented figurehead

Caliphate4vr said...

Stupid, stupid old man

CBR
@AdkCheryl
Wife/(grand)mother/sister/friend. Retired; 35 yrs in healthcare fundraising/communications. Love travel, golf, reading, walking & community volunteer work.

Anonymous said...



Stupid, stupid old man

CBR
@AdkCheryl



bfd.

you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a whiny liberal in the adirondacks.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

thebradfordfile™
@thebradfordfile

I reviewed the tape.

The 'protesters' exiting Target were carrying televisions, toys, clothing, liquor, furniture and tons of other stuff--but not one sign in the memory of George Floyd.

Anonymous said...



let's see how many liberals put their $$$ where there mealy mouth is -

Scores Sports Bar was set for a grand opening this spring but when COVID-19 hit that was put on pause. Now, just as Scores was gearing up to welcome customers with updated guidelines from the governor, George Floyd was murdered and everything changed overnight.

Scores Sports Bar was LOOTED, VANDALIZED and DESTROYED 5/27/2020. This black-owned business is left trying to pick up the pieces amidst mourning with the community.

About the Bar Owners: Kb Balla & his wife Twyana are active members of their community. KB is a Firefighter on the Brooklyn Center Fire Department and Twyana was a member of the Sounds of Blackness. They have a 4 beautiful children and the toll of this entire situation is heavy. KB has been a community entrepreneur for decades and coaches and contributes to the community in which they live.

Anything you can donate to start the rebuild process will be a blessing



https://www.gofundme.com/f/scores-bar-mpls-riot-rebuild?fbclid=IwAR34O7B5OjV7ZfDt6yANFWOX3BmdVntyrAdQ_rjb3JyvWWwnvxlrr0czkVA

Commonsense said...

James should be the first in line but I suspect he won't.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Commonsense said...
James should be the first in line but I suspect he won't.


He probably got a new TV

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Ryan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra

CNN’s Van Jones on threats to blacks: “It is not the racist white person who is in the KKK that we have to worry about. It is the white liberal Hillary Clinton supporter walking her dog in Central Park ... she weaponized race like she had been trained by the Aryan nation”

and now the left starts eating their own.

Commonsense said...

Van Jones' rhetoric about white people is very similar to Hitler's rhetoric about the Jews. And his solution is about the same.

Anonymous said...

James, you hate Trump, why?

Anonymous said...

AG Holder made it clear there were "his people" and then there were the whites.

Anonymous said...

A woke Biden is even dumber.
"It's a list that dates back more than 400 years. "

Someone care to tell Joe how old the US is.

Anonymous said...

odd.
"George Floyd and now-former Officer Derek Chauvin both worked security at the El Nuevo Rodeo club on Lake Street"

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Biden cleverly stayed in his basement and let Trump destroy himself. It worked.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The Verge:
History Will Not Judge Us Kindly’

“Facebook’s decision not to take action against recent posts about mail-in ballots and the Minnesota protests by President Trump is roiling employees, some of whom are calling on executives to reconsider their stance.”

Said one employee in an internal post:
“I have to say I am finding the contortions we have to go through incredibly hard to stomach. All this points to a very high risk of a violent escalation and civil unrest in November and if we fail the test case here, history will not judge us kindly.”
____________

Even Facebook's employees realize that Facebook has got to have at least some allegiance to truthfulness, despite Trump. Freedom of speech demands that too.

Anonymous said...

James, a simple question eve you can handle.
You talked about my wealth and that is ok, to a point.
The point was when you called me greedy.
So do you apply that wealth standard to yourself and Alky who lusts for wealth in his own words he wants a big home a huge bank account and a Audi A8 a $85,000 car.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

CNBC:
Flynn Transcripts Released

“Transcripts of calls between former national security advisor Michael Flynn and Russia’s then-ambassador to the United States weeks before President Trump’s inauguration were publicly released Friday.

“The transcript of a Dec. 22, 2016, call shows Flynn advising Kislyak that Russia should only respond in a ‘reciprocal’ manner to any actions the Obama administration takes against the country before Trump is inaugurated.”
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In other words, wait till Sugar Daddy Trump gets in and he will kowtow all you want to Russia's and Putin's wants.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


*** NOTICE OF CONSTANT SPAMMING and USE OF TAEGAN GODDARD's POLITICAL_LIRE ***

Regular readers of this blog know the constant spamming, lying and obsession for that left-wing Taegan Goddard blog by a certain poster. That poster james, also called the "pastor" (which he claims to be even if you can't tell by his actions) is the POS responsible and considers his mindless rude behavior his hobby. Sometimes he credits Taegan Goddard, sometimes he doesn't.

He has descended so far into TDS and desperation he fills every discussion thread with what people have described as an avalanche of spam. If this is being posted today is no different. He even gets his edited news from that site and spams that if he thinks it will hurt Trump. Every day he repeats what that site posts, regardless of topic. It gets so bad he feels the need to even repeat his spam multiple times in a single thread as well as posting in every active thread the very same spam.

He has exhibited the same mental deterioration as Joe Biden and his postings should be given the same consideration. Both their heads will probably explode when it becomes obvious that Trump will win a second term. Biden will not even notice his head did.

I'm JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY and I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE


OBAMAGATE...

Anonymous said...

JamesFDaddy, James is non-conversational.

Ask him a question on his topic and he still can't answer it.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The Chicago Times:
Mayor Responds to Trump’s Tweet With a Hearty FU

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D) accused President Trump of trying to “foment violence” and offered a vulgar response — in code — after he threatened Minneapolis rioters protesting the death of George Floyd at the hands of police.

Said Lightfoot:
“We see the game he’s playing because it’s so transparent and he’s not very good at it. He wants to show failures on the part of Democratic local leaders to throw red meat to his base. His goal is to polarize, to destabilize local government and inflame racist urges. And we can absolutely not let him prevail.”

She added:
“I will code what I really want to say to Donald Trump. It’s two words: It begins with F and ends with YOU.”

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


How did Obama's flexibility after the election work out ???

And despite your constant lying (how "pastor-like" of you) there was no Russia/Trump collusion.

But the dem's did pay Russia for made up dirt.

And Obama knew it.

And he spied on a political rival.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ask me a stupid question and I will not answer it.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Atlanta Journal Constitution:
Probe Shows Kemp Misrepresented Election Security

“It was a stunning accusation: Two days before the 2018 election for Georgia governor, Republican Brian Kemp used his power as secretary of state to open an investigation into what he called a “failed hacking attempt” of voter registration systems involving the Democratic Party.

“But newly released case files from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation reveal that there was NO such hacking attempt.”
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CNN
Trump Announces Unprecedented Action Against China

“President Trump launched a blistering attack on China, naming misdeeds that range from espionage to the violation of Hong Kong’s freedoms, and announced a slew of retaliatory measures that will plunge US-China relations deeper into crisis.”

Said Trump:
“They’ve ripped off the United States like no one has ever done before.”
__________

When attacks against Biden and Obama are going nowhere, turn to China.

It will be nice when we have a President again.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

*** NOTICE OF CONSTANT SPAMMING and USE OF TAEGAN GODDARD's POLITICAL_LIRE ***

Regular readers of this blog know the constant spamming, lying and obsession for that left-wing Taegan Goddard blog by a certain poster. That poster james, also called the "pastor" (which he claims to be even if you can't tell by his actions) is the POS responsible and considers his mindless rude behavior his hobby. Sometimes he credits Taegan Goddard, sometimes he doesn't.

He has descended so far into TDS and desperation he fills every discussion thread with what people have described as an avalanche of spam. If this is being posted today is no different. He even gets his edited news from that site and spams that if he thinks it will hurt Trump. Every day he repeats what that site posts, regardless of topic. It gets so bad he feels the need to even repeat his spam multiple times in a single thread as well as posting in every active thread the very same spam.

He has exhibited the same mental deterioration as Joe Biden and his postings should be given the same consideration. Both their heads will probably explode when it becomes obvious that Trump will win a second term. Biden will not even notice his head did.

I'm JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY and I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE


I see the desperate "pastor" has gone off the rails again.

Don't worry, you will end up like Biden. In an assisted living basement.

ROFLMFAO !!!

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

James said...
Ask me a stupid question and I will not answer it.


We know, you can't handle ANY question.

ROFLMFAO !!!

Commonsense said...

About those transcripts:

Declassified Flynn Transcripts Contradict Key Mueller Claims Against Flynn

Flynn was charged by Mueller in 2017 with making false statements to federal officials about conversations he had with Kislyak on December 22 and December 29, 2017. According to the charging documents from Mueller, Flynn allegedly falsely claimed to Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) agents that he did not ask Kislyak to “refrain from escalating” in response to U.S. expulsion of Russian diplomats and falsely claimed that he did not ask Kislyak to help defeat an anti-Israel resolution pending before the United Nations at the time. Mueller also claimed that Flynn lied when he said he didn’t remember Kislyak telling him that Russia would “moderate its response” to the expulsions.

The transcript of the December 29 conversation, which was cited by Mueller, does not include a request from Flynn that Russia “refrain from escalating” in response to U.S. expulsions of Russian diplomats. According to the transcript, Flynn asked Kislyak for Russia’s response to be “reciprocal” so that the U.S.–not Russia–would not be forced to escalate beyond the expulsions. The transcript makes clear that Flynn fully expected Russia to respond to the situation by expelling U.S. diplomats in response to the Obama administration’s move to expel nearly three dozen Russian diplomats from the U.S., and that his primary concern was preventing a situation where the U.S. would have to escalate tensions in response to Russia.

“Make it reciprocal,” Flynn reportedly said. “[D]on’t go any further than you have to. Because I don’t want us to get into something that has to escalate, on a, you know, on a tit for tat.”

I really don’t want us to get into a situation where we’re going, you know, where we do this and then you do something bigger, and then you know, everybody’s got to go back and forth and everybody’s got to be the tough guy here, you know?” Flynn continued. “We need cool heads to prevail, and uh, we need to be very steady about what we’re going to do because we have absolutely a common uh, threat in the Middle East right now.”

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

james copied:
announced a slew of retaliatory measures that will plunge US-China relations deeper into crisis.”


And the stock market surged on the announcement.

james wept.

ROFLMFAO !!!

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Blogger Commonsense said...
About those transcripts:

Declassified Flynn Transcripts Contradict Key Mueller Claims Against Flynn


THREE separate CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS are now ongoing against the OBAMA CRIME CARTEL.

As has been said Watergate is like a pimple on an elephants but compared to what the Obama administration did. And justice is coming.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Why, after a white supremacist went into a church in Charleston, SC, and shot and killed several innocent blacks, both men and women, was there no rioting in the streets or destruction or burning of buildings or any kind of violence on the part of Charleston's sizable black community?

There were not even strong peaceful protests!

Why was that?

It seems to me that a part of the answer should be obvious to all, but some here simply do not want to say it.
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Commonsense said,
James wants to start a race war. The man is truly evil.
________________

James said,
You mean like the race war that did not erupt in Charleston?

Why was there no such "war"? Why were there no such burnings or lootings or destruction?
Why no such hatred?

Why was that?

A part of the answer must be obvious to all, but there are some here who do not want to say it, so now I will say it for you:

It had partly to do with the fact that blacks knew then that we did not have a bigot in the White House who fervently supports and is supported by a base that includes many white supremacist racists.

And that was the main reason Trump beat a hasty retreat from his presser. He knew any reasonable statement about the killing of Floyd would offend the racists among his base.

And my goodness, he MUSTN'T do that.
He's depending on them to pull him through, you see.

(But this time they will not, I'm glad to say.)

Caliphate4vr said...

You’re are one despicable piece of shit pederast

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

CNN’s Acosta Goes After Trump for Not Taking Questions at Presser: He Likes to ‘Set the Fire and Then Run Away from the Flames’

CNN’s Jim Acosta called out President Donald Trump for abruptly ending a planned Rose Garden press conference and not taking reporters’ questions

Acosta spoke to Brianna Keilar, who found it “shocking” that the president didn’t talk about Minneapolis or take questions.

“It’s hard to be shocked any more, quite honestly. We should point out the president was supposed to hold a news conference out here. I don’t know if he want to show this empty Rose Garden because reporters just cleared out of here,” Acosta said. “But this Rose Garden was set up for all of the reporters to ask questions of the president.” But Trump “completely punted” after trying earlier in a tweet to clean up his tweet saying “when the looting starts the shooting starts.”

“My suspicion is that he knew that clean-up was not going to cut it and that these reporters gathered in this Rose Garden were going to ask him this question, and as you saw, as he left the Rose Garden, reporters were going up to the microphone to try to ask him about that tweet. I tried to ask him ‘where is the decency’ in tweeting ‘when the looting starts, the shooting starts,’ when a U.S. city is going up in flames and there are people in harms way. Obviously the president doesn’t want to deal with those kind of questions right now. He is a president at times as we know who likes to light the match, set the fire, and then run away from the flames.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

"You’re are one despicable piece of shit pederast."

Name calling is not dealing with the issues.

Even if I were a pos, which I am not, or a pederast, which I am not, or despicable, which I am not, you should not be so ineffective and incapable of answering.

C.H. Truth said...

Jesus Christ, Reverend...

You have truly lost your marbles.


2012 Anaheim, California Riot—followed the shooting of two Hispanic males
2014: Ferguson, MO riots – Riots following the Shooting of Michael Brown
2015: 2015 Baltimore riots – Riots following the death of Freddie Gray
2015: Ferguson unrest – Riots following the anniversary of the Shooting of Michael Brown
2016: 2016 Milwaukee riots – Riots following the fatal shooting of 23 year old Sylville Smith.
2016: Charlotte riot, September 20–21, Riots started in response to the shooting of Keith Lamont Scott by police



What do these riots all have in common?

They happened while you had a black President.


So you have been asking everyone a question for days... and your answer was that they didn't riot because the President was black? For god's sake, how stupid are you?

Really Reverend... on a scale of 1 to 10. Honestly. How stupid?

Commonsense said...

Stupid and evil James is, so full of hate. Anything to get Trump out of office. He knows the economy is against him, Biden is a loser as a candidate, COVID-19 won't do it for him despite how many people he prays die, maybe a race war will do the trick in his eyes.

Commonsense said...

CNN’s Acosta Goes After Trump for Not Taking Questions at Presse

Heh, Acosta is shitting his pants now as leftest rioters are outside CNN headquarters breaking the glass.

Frankenstein's monster has just turned on him.

Anonymous said...

Break Down of James issue.

His wealth is good.

Alky's lust for wealth, that's good too.

My wealth, greed

Anonymous said...

Joe isn't joking man.

"DON LEMON: In light of these horrible events, it’s important for black voters to know: Which leader are you going to be?

JOE BIDEN: The leader I’ve always been. I apologized immediately for responding to Charlamagne, who was baiting me"

No Joe HE was not.