Sunday, July 26, 2020

Breakdown of the states that never really shut down...

State Cases  Per Million Deaths Per Million Rank*
Wyoming 2475 4276 25 43 3
North Dakota 5876 7711 99 130 13
Arkansas 37981 12586 399 132 14
South Dakota 8305 9388 122 138 15
Nebraska 24395 12611 316 163 19
Iowa 42165 13364 493 262 27
Total USA 4341565 13116 149602 452 -

Wyoming actually leads the 48 state mainland area, as Hawaii and Alaska are number one and number two in terms of their collective deaths per million ranking. This is not unusual considering their isolation from the rest of the country and fairly sparse population. 

But as you can see, every state is well below the national average in terms of deaths per million and only one state (Iowa) is ahead of the curve for cases per million. Since most of these states have remained mostly open, there is no logical reason to blame any recent increases on "reopening" too soon. That questionable conventional wisdom explanation simply doesn't apply here. 

As it stands, some of the states (Iowa, North Dakota) have actually seen an uptick in cases (albeit smaller than most states) while others (Nebraska, South Dakota) has not seen any real uptick in cases. It would seem that the decision to keep things more normalized throughout the ordeal has mitigated the so called second wave of cases that other states have seen.

On the flip side, Montana (nestled in by the Dakotas and Wyoming) does have a Democratic Governor and did, in fact, enact a hard shut down like most every other state. Contrary to their neighbors, Montana has seen a major increase in new cases (new cases have tripled since July 1st) and about half their deaths have come just in the last 15 days or so. They, unfortunately, have not escaped the so called second wave.

Lastly...  there has not been protesting, mass gatherings, and other large crowds in these states. While conventional liberal wisdom is that the virus is immune from BLM and social justice protests, there is no "actual" wisdom that corresponds to such a ludicrous claim. There is, however, much logical reason to suspect that what these states did (considering their own demographic situations) was the correct responses for for them.

18 comments:

James said...

That's a nice list, Ch.
Now tell us how many combined electoral votes they control.

James said...

WY 3
ND 3
SD 3
NE 3
Ak 6
IA 6

24 YUGE electoral votes

James said...

'scusa me
AR 6

Commonsense said...

FL 23 will go to Trump also.

James said...

You desperately hope, LOL.
You're gonna be DEVASTATED.

C.H. Truth said...

Well James...

Since you believe that 33,000 deaths is a great result as long as the Governor is a Democrat... then we can all take your opinion with that particular grain of salt.

What does a 33,000 dead people matter anyways!

The left has an election to try to win!

Anonymous said...

No regard for US Lives.
Always political.
♤ James "Just thinning the herd"
🤡 James "Now tell us how many combined electoral votes they control."

James said...

Trump is desperately trying to use the virus to assure his win.

It ain't working.

Almost everything he said or did about it was WRONG.

As becomes clearer every day. EVERY day.

Caliphate4vr said...

While crazy joe stays locked in his basement

FSOM

C.H. Truth said...

Almost everything he said or did about it was WRONG.

What specifically did Trump actually "do" except listen to Fauci and Birx and approve of the CDC guidelines.

Again... we are a Republic and our Governors had a wide ranging amount of different responses. Some successful (some of these states listed) some were huge flops (that state where 33,000 died for instance).

The Federal Government does not have any authority to tell states what to do in these situations unless Governors or citizens are actually breaking some sort of Federal law.


You simply "parrot" the idea that Trump is to blame...

Because you lack the intellectual honesty and ability to actually dig into what did and didn't work...

and at the end of the day... guess what?

There doesn't appear to be much rhyme or reason as to what worked and what didn't or necessarily any guarantee that it all won't change.

who's to say that the so called "second wave" that has hit several sun belt states, doesn't make it back up the east coast again and a couple of weeks from now we are talking about New York and New Jersey again seeing an increase in cases?

Then what?

James said...

Trump Backs Out of Throwing First Pitch
July 26, 2020 at 4:09 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

President Trump announced he wouldn’t be throwing out the opening pitch for the New York Yankees next month as he had planned.

Said Trump:
“Because of my strong focus on the China Virus, including scheduled meetings on Vaccines, our economy and much else, I won’t be able to be in New York to throw out the opening pitch for the Yankees on August 15th. We will make it later in the season!”
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The Liar in Chief is backing out for one reason only. The media would have pointed out that if a crowd had been present, Trump would have been BOOED EVEN MORE LOUDLY THAN LAST TIME.

James said...

Fauci kept right on saying that it would be too dangerous even while Trump was ballyhooing opening up America. He was right. Trump was wrong.

Caliphate4vr said...

It’s only dangerous for old and sickly people like you

FSOM

Commonsense said...

Anonymous James said...
You desperately hope, LOL.
You're gonna be DEVASTATED.


Sure, A Biden presidency will be bad for the country. It will hurt minorities the most.

And will hurt most of the rest of us. Even the precious fools who voted for him.

Commonsense said...

Since you believe that 33,000 deaths is a great result as long as the Governor is a Democrat... then we can all take your opinion with that particular grain of salt.

Between Cuomo's disastrous handling of the pandemic, the de Blasio clown show, and the Duchess of Westchester swishing though the halls of Congress uttering inane things, by all empirical evidence New York should go Republican this fall.

But I have to agree with Rat's gloomy assessment of his state. The state is full of shitheads.

C.H. Truth said...

Fauci kept right on saying that it would be too dangerous even while Trump was ballyhooing opening up America. He was right. Trump was wrong.


And every Governor had their own opportunity to decide on their own how to handle things, huh?

And given Democratic Governors are failing at a much higher rate than Republican Governors... it's a tough argument to make from any factual standpoint.



So why don't you go back to blaming Trump for the 33,000 deaths in New York and pretend that Biden or someone else would have done better even though Biden would not have banned any travel or probably had done anything but hide in his basement.

James said...

Ch SAID:
And given Democratic Governors are failing at a much higher rate than Republican Governors... it's a tough argument to make from any factual standpoint.
___________

I guess you're not taking into account the upsurges in cases in Republican states that obeyed Trump against the warnings of Fauci and opened up sooner than they should have.

Now go to the next thread up and read my long statement to you at 8:10 and 8:14 PM in which I employ and affirm David Bier's effective rebuttal to your positions.

James said...

You might also want to notice this:

Florida Now Has More Virus Cases Than New York
July 26, 2020 at 11:09 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

“Florida’s total number of reported coronavirus cases has surpassed that of New York, an early epicenter of the pandemic in the United States,” the New York Times reports.