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| The President's speech impressed supporters, triggered his opposition |
I doubt we see much bump from any of this. Obviously there was no polling that showed Joe Biden getting any sort of bump from his convention, and I would expect there would be very little reason to believe that a large percentage of people decided to change their vote because of the four day convention held by the Republicans.
While the Republicans had an edge in presentation, the Democrats had an edge in the ratings. Either way, I don't think much changed or probably will change until the debates (if they take place). More than any election I can remember, this appears to be about events rather than the campaign. Where things go with the Covid virus and social unrest will have infinitely more effect on the results of the election than a bunch of August speeches.
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Did Trump Convince Anyone with His Speech?
August 28, 2020 at 9:12 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Susan Glasser:
“Who knows, but politically, at least, the spectacle suggested a President entering his reelection campaign not strong and confident of victory, but insecure and faltering, a President whose prospects, left unvarnished by lies and fantasy, were so poor that his strategists had to reinvent him as a different person altogether. The departure from reality was so complete that I spent much of the week feeling sorry for the many journalists now employed as real-time fact checkers.
“The truth is that Trump’s heart wasn’t really in the ridiculously uncredible makeover anyway. Fear is his preferred political drug, and nasty personal attacks are his default setting. This is what he is pushing, now and forever…
“The problem, of course, is that America as we know it is currently in the midst of a mess not of Biden’s making but of Trump’s. Suffice it to say that, by the time Trump’s speech was over and the red, white, and blue fireworks spelling out “2020” had been set off over the National Mall, late Thursday night, more than three thousand seven hundred Americans had died of the coronavirus since the start of the Convention—more than perished on 9/11—and a hundred and eighty thousand Americans total had succumbed to the disease, a disease that Trump repeatedly denied was even a threat. His botched handling of the pandemic was the very reason that his Convention was taking place on the White House lawn in the first place.”
the DNC talking points have been distributed to the MSM.
fear. it's all about fear. double down on fear. fear, fear, fear.
just one problem - we who support Trump are not afraid to begin with.
LOL.
HEADLINES IN THE NEXT THREAD DOWN
Trump’s Speech Widely Panned
Trump Pretends Pandemic Is Over
Trump Casts Election as Crusade for Law and Order
No Bushes, Reagans, Cheneys or McCains at this Republican Convention
Betsy DeVos Out of Sight Too
Trump’s Convention Was ‘Clearly Illegal’
Trump Wields Fear In Pitch for 4 More Years
AND HERE'S WHY THAT DOESN'T WORK NOW:
Republicans Were Not Focused on Top Issues
Biden Holds Big Lead In Tracking Poll
Quote of the Day -- President Trump INCOHERENT
Scott Walker Turned Off Camera During Interview
(TRUMP should have too.)
Penn Professor Wants Probe of Trump’s Admission that he paid to have another take his entrance exam
Indy voters are fed up eith the riots and dem party support of them. They're moving toward Trump. That's why now, suddenly after 3 months, they're noticing that they're not peaceful protests. But it's too late.
headline on this thread:
GO FUCK YOURSELF PEDERAST.
The killing of retired police officer Dave Dorn was a terrible thing. I just watched a video of his widow, a Trump supporter, talking about him and it was heart breaking. He was a black man killed by black looters of a pawn shop belonging to a friend of this retired officer who was only trying to be helpful.
Then I watched this, and I don't think it went quite the way Fox News wanted it to go. I was impressed by what one of the black commentators said and I was also impressed by the fact that you saw example after example of huge crowds PEACEFULLY walking in protest.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=video+of+david+dorns+death&&view=detail&mid=0510BCAB45F41A77D6330510BCAB45F41A77D633&rvsmid=19864982C65163C2FCD319864982C65163C2FCD3&FORM=VDQVAP
And I am not a pederast, rat,
but you most definitely are a creep.
Biden Must Go to Kenosha
August 28, 2020 at 9:46 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 27 Comments
George Packer:
“Here is a prediction about the November election: If Donald Trump wins, in a trustworthy vote, what’s happening this week in Kenosha, Wisconsin, will be one reason. Maybe the reason. And yet Joe Biden has it in his power to spare the country a second Trump term…
“Nothing will harm a campaign like the wishful thinking, fearful hesitation, or sheer complacency that fails to address what voters can plainly see. Kenosha gives Biden a chance to help himself and the country.
"Ordinarily it’s the incumbent president’s job to show up at the scene of a national tragedy and give a unifying speech. But Trump is temperamentally incapable of doing so and, in fact, has a political interest in America’s open wounds and burning cities.
“Biden, then, should go immediately to Wisconsin, the crucial state that Hillary Clinton infamously ignored. He should meet the Blake family and give them his support and comfort. He should also meet Kenoshans like the small-business owners quoted in the Times piece, who doubt that Democrats care about the wreckage of their dreams.
"Then, on the burned-out streets, without a script, from the heart, Biden should speak to the city and the country.”
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AMEN. Let it BE!
peacefully peaceful guillotine being used very peacefully in a peaceful manner:
Effigy of President Trump ‘executed’ with a guillotine outside the White House
nothing says peacefully, peaceful, peaceable peace like a mock execution of the President.
peaceful link:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/08/27/effigy-of-president-trump-executed-with-a-guillotine-outside-the-white-house/
“Biden, then, should go immediately to Wisconsin, the crucial state that Hillary Clinton infamously ignored. He should meet the Blake family and give them his support and comfort. He should also meet Kenoshans like the small-business owners quoted in the Times piece, who doubt that Democrats care about the wreckage of their dreams.
absolutely.
Slow Joe an da Ho need to OWN the violence that they advocate and support.
let them face the those who lost everything.
and let Cumala the whore answer for THIS:
๐hi๐๐iเบเปiหข
@chiIIum
Kamala Harris says that the riots are not going to stop, ever, and to BEWARE. With a smile on her face.
https://twitter.com/chiIIum/status/1299077701916073984
I do not like the guillotine imagery and think it should not have been done.
But the guillotine, historically, was at least set up for public executions preceded by some sort of court trial, and the citizenry could either approve of, or disapprove of, the executions, just as we today can approve of, or disapprove of, lethal injections or other forms of execution carried out as part of our legal system.
But shooting someone in the back is not that. There is no legal process at all there.
Benny
@bennyjohnson
If Trump supporters were doing this to Liz Warren and her husband — there would be universal outrage from both sides.
That’s the difference.
You won’t here a peep about this from Democrats or Rand’s leftist colleagues in the senate.
They approve of it
VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1299221602991828993
like rrb's post it shows the "tolerant" left.
scumbags
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's REAL.:
Blue-checked anti-Trump podcaster is hellbent on busting Ivanka Trump for lying about her 3-year-old son’s LEGO White House
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/08/28/blue-checked-anti-trump-podcaster-is-hellbent-on-busting-ivanka-trump-for-lying-about-her-3-year-old-sons-lego-white-house/
...and your little dog too!
LOL.
A peace officer shooting a non-cooperative suspect who is engaged in hand-to-hand combat who is reaching for a deadly weapon is justifiable. And you continue shooting until the threat is mitigated. You don't have to wait until you yourself are shot or stabbed.
That is policing.
And why we have police.
Photo of the Day
Go look at it at politicalwire.com
Taken from outside the White House, with fireworks in the sky, just after President Trump concluded his speech accepting the Republican presidential nomination.
We see people standing across a street holding clear letters reading:
TRUMP FAILED 180,000 + DIED
Vox: “It’s a moment that encapsulates what amounted to a week of gaslighting on Covid-19 by Trump and the Republican convention — an attempt to make America think that a president who had so clearly failed was in fact a victory for the US.”
Real Photo of the day
Senator Rand Paul and his wife being attacked by a violent mob and protected by police.
The lies flew like a fertilizer spreader in a windstorm.
The flood lights illuminating the White House backdrop couldn't outshine the darkness of a broken historical precedent.
The packed, maskless crowd mocked the reality of a murderous virus engulfing the nation.
Last night's culmination of the Republican Convention was pure Donald Trump, even if he remained largely tethered to his teleprompter. It was a grievance-filled exercise in mass gaslighting. It reinforced my previously-stated belief that the Trump re-election campaign is based on the rather hard-to-swallow idea that only Donald Trump can save America from Donald Trump's America. But we know many of his legions of fervid supporters believe this framing of the national moment to make perfect sense. He is their savior, no matter what he has wrought.
As to how this speech and convention played to the rest of America, I am reminded often of a favorite line I heard long ago about prognostication: those who live by the crystal ball end up eating a lot of broken glass. Did last night help the president's re-election prospects? Did it hurt them? Will it all be forgotten with the next tweet or earth-shaking event? No one really knows.
What is clear is that, at least for now, the Trump campaign and the man who leads it, has settled on some specific lines of attack. Gone seems to be "sleepy Joe Biden." Now it is "Trojan Horse Joe Biden," a captive of the socialist left. Nevermind Biden's own decades-long record in government and nevermind that the demonization by the president and his enablers of the left wing of the Democratic Party is based on exaggerations, distortions and many outright lies.
President Trump has the political instincts to know he is losing. Yes he preached a lot of fear last night, but I suspect he also is afraid. He cannot allow reality to intervene into the conversation, because by almost any measure of our personal, civic, social, or economic health, America is struggling. That is why packing his supporters onto the White House lawn was so important. He needed a show, even if it ended up being deadly to those who attended and the others they might infect.
Against this gaudy pageantry of last night we have shuttered schools, mass unemployment, staggering death tolls, and a combustible social justice movement. Of that list, Donald Trump only wishes to talk about the final one. Months of protests, mostly peaceful but some violent, have given him what he yearns for, and even many of his opponents worry about: an opening. Donald Trump has long played on racist tropes, biases, and deeply-ingrained, history-laden fears of Black and brown people. I am old enough to have seen this "law and order" line of attack used before by politicians and work many times,, although it's been a long time since I have seen it employed so blatantly.
Will it work? Now well into the 21st century? It will with some. It will backfire with others. Who those are, what their numbers will be, and whether they will vote all hangs in a balance of uncertainty.
And it is into this cauldron of the unknowable that this campaign will play out. The polls in a week or two might provide a more robust snapshot. But we have also seen how events can come out of nowhere to change narratives and news cycles. However, despite all that is going on, we have seen the race be remarkably steady in recent months. Donald Trump appears to be losing, and there is the potential that he could receive a stinging defeat. But many suspect the polls to tighten, and almost everyone, in both campaigns, thinks Donald Trump can win. What that would do for the continuation of American democracy is another question.
Ultimately, this will be decided at the ballot box. We will see who votes, and for whom. And in retrospect we may be able to answer the question of what to make of last night in the larger arc of the story of this nation.
Does anybody know where I can dig up an old SCM typewriter so I can create a fake letter about Trump like I did about Bush ?
I asked Joe but his typewriter is way too old.
What I did before wasn't really FAKE NEWS in my opinion. It could have been accurate even if it wasn't and it wasn't misleading if it had been true.
TIA
Oh, no IBM Selectric, that's how I got caught last time.
In the mean time I will continue lecturing people as someone as esteemed as me should.
Most people have forgotten who I am anyway
https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-cnns-daniel-dale-gives-amazing-rapid-fire-fact-check-of-trumps-rnc-speech-debunks-21-claims-in-3-minutes/?ocid=uxbndlbing
This president is a serial liar and he serially lied tonight.
If the media "fact checked" themselves accurately they would have a mountain of lies compared to trumps molehill (even if they say it is 20,000)
No one with a brain believes the FAKE NEWS media anymore
They are dinosaurs.
BIDEN HAD MORE TELEVISION VIEWERS for His Speech
August 28, 2020 at 1:12 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
The Nielsen ratings across three broadcast and three cable news networks finds
14.1 million people tuned in for President Trump’s speech last night.
In contrast, Joe Biden had
17.5 million viewers for his speech the week before.
Also interesting: “The length of President Trump’s speech, the longest acceptance speech in history, did not appear to have any impact on viewership. Looking at overnight ratings by quarter hour, the ratings held basically steady throughout.“
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I sure got bored and left more than once.
JUST IN
Trump and Biden Look to Brutal Fall Campaign
August 28, 2020 at 2:22 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
Dan Balz:
“With just under 10 weeks until Election Day, the campaign for president turns from a pair of scripted conventions to the trench warfare of mobilizing voters and to the unpredictability of September and October, with the campaign playing out against a backdrop unlike anything seen in modern times.
“In a month, the first of three presidential debates will be held, scheduled for Sept. 29 in Cleveland. Some strategists see that evening as a pivotal and potentially decisive confrontation, particularly if President Trump has a bad night and Joe Biden looks strong.
"Still, the 2016 campaign moved late and, ultimately, decisively in Trump’s direction. Democrats worry about a repeat of that playbook and warn now against complacency.
By the time of the first debate, early voting will have begun in a few states, and the pace will accelerate in October.
“Campaign 2020 continues to be shaped by a deadly pandemic,
an economy struggling to rebound,
with millions out of work,
and continued racial unrest
and calls for racial justice sparked by shootings of unarmed Black men.
The trio of crises will be the overriding issues as voters decide whether to give Trump a second term or turn the country over to Biden.”
But the guillotine, historically, was at least set up for public executions preceded by some sort of court trial, and the citizenry could
The guillotine was emblematic of the most jacobin period of the French revolution. There was not trial or due process. They just execute people the leaders thought were "enemies of the revolution".
There's a specific reason those "peaceful protesters" chose the guillotine. They were signaling their intention to kill all who disagree with them. It's was a form of terrorism.
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