Thursday, October 29, 2020

State of the election - five days out...

Two polling worlds are clashing

In 2016 there was very little difference between battleground state polling and the national polling. When Trump ran against Clinton there was only a 0.4% difference between the battleground states and national polling. Today there is a difference of 4.1%. This difference is literally ten times larger today than it was in 2016. 


If you think about it, it makes perfect sense that your closest states should be reflective of the overall country. However, right now we have a huge discrepancy between our battleground state polling and the national polling. So much so, that they do not even resemble the same election. 

To be clear, the chances of polls showing eight different battleground states all being within the margin of error being correct pretty much eliminates the possibility that the four national polls showing Joe Biden up double digits are correct. Or to look at it a different way. If Joe Biden "is" really leading by double digits nationally, then there is absolutely no way that these polls in these battleground states are in the vicinity of being accurate. 

How would it be that Trump has maintained his status (or within polling margins) in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and others, if he has lost 6-10 points nationally? Do people in Iowa or Arizona really think differently than people in Nebraska or Nevada? Do they really see things "that" differently? Make no mistake, there is a correlation between state and national polling that is not being seen here. Something is off. 

Bottom line: If the battleground state polling is to be believed, then we might still have a very interesting election night. If national polls are to be believed, then there will be very early calls in Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin for Biden and the election will be over in time for old man Joe to make is bedtime. 

71 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

WHOA! FLORIDA JUST WENT BACK TO BIDEN ON THE RCP NO TOSS UPS ELECTORAL VOTE MAP!

Making it,

==== BIDEN 340 vs TRUMP 198 ====

HOORAY!


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

So things are looking pretty good for "old man Joe," Ch!

Anonymous said...

The Socialist Win on Tuesday and the Dream of Obama comes true.

Myballs said...

I've been posting this for months. The national polls keep using registered voters, which favors democrats, and the proportionality of population methodology. This methodology mirrors popular vote, thus over weighting CA and NY and under weighting the red Midwest. Hillary won CA by nearly 5M votes. That extra margin meant exactly nothing relative to the electoral college. That's why the local polls are closer than national.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

KD: The Socialist Win on Tuesday and the Dream of Obama comes true.

WONDERFUL THOUGHT, KansasDim!

But Biden's not a socialist.
Just a new FDR, one of our greatest Presidents.

AND HE'LL NEED (AND APPARENTLY BE GETTING) PLENTY OF HELP:

WALL STREET JOURNAL:
Fight for Senate Tied Closely to White House Race
10:59 am

“The outlook for about a dozen competitive Senate contests remains closely tied to President Trump’s standing in the final days of the race, with polls indicating few people plan to split their vote between a Democrat and a Republican,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

“In most of the states where polls show Mr. Trump leading, they also show the GOP senate candidate leading. Likewise, where polls show former Vice President Joe Biden in front, they show the Democratic Senate candidate in front. In only a handful of states does ticket splitting look to potentially be a deciding factor.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Check out the latest polls:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Scroll down and down and down and notice how seldom you see red ink or the name Trump!

Anonymous said...



But Biden's not a socialist.
Just a new FDR


indeed.

a cognitive cripple instead of a physical cripple.

Caliphate4vr said...

LMAO

That was the WiFi password the media had to use at President Trump’s rally last night in Wisconsin.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Well, since we are not staying on subject (polling),

Taegan Goddard points out that:
Trump’s Rallies Are Backfiring

and

CBS NEWS
Pelosi Hits Trump for Remarks to Suburban Women
11:35 am

Speaker Nancy Pelosi slammed President Trump for telling suburban women voters he is “getting your husbands back to work,” CBS News reports.

Said Pelosi:
“What decade is he living in? What century is he living in?
So completely removed from the realities of life.
And that has caused death.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

USA TODAY:
A Florida Judge Who is to Lead the Vote Count in Duval County Donated to Trump
11:06 am

“A Florida judge who heads Duval County’s vote-counting board has donated repeatedly to President Trump’s re-election campaign and other Republican efforts, and his home is covered in signs supporting Trump, despite rules requiring judges like him refrain from donations or public support.”
_________

Makes you sort wonder just a tad if the count will be fair and balanced, doesn't it?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

It's clear that Biden has a lead. In Florida and even Georgia. But turnout matters.

For those who don't watch the MSM news, you don't see the there are many movements are working by going door to door to get people out. They are also going after the younger African American men who have not turned out in the past.

And the major issue is the President and his mishandled of the pandemic among a majority of the likely voters.


Anonymous said...

Anonymous Caliphate4vr said...

LMAO

That was the WiFi password the media had to use at President Trump’s rally last night in Wisconsin.



that was awesome.

Troll Level: GRANDMASTER.


LOL.

you have to love the way Trump treats the MSM. he treats them like the shit stains that they are. beneath contempt.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Because of the pandemic the early reports will very early calls in Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin for Biden, it will be a tie and when the mail in ballots are counted Demented Dennis can get packing up.

Anonymous said...



And the major issue is the President and his mishandled of the pandemic among a majority of the likely voters.


and a Harris/Biden administration ensures the deployment of a pandemic plan completely PLAGIARIZED from the Trump administration.

PLAGIARISM. something very familiar to Joe Lid, and an attribute you share with the drooling retard, alky.


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LOL How can it be plagiarized when it emphasizes rather than de-emphasizes taking the pandemic seriously?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Also, how can it be plagiarized if it emphasizes rather than de-emphasizes taking the advice of Fauci and Birx and other accredited scientists seriously?

:-)

Anonymous said...




nothing says "peaceful protest" like BLM burning a Vietnam Baptist Church in Philadelphia.

for the sake of accuracy, instead of painting Black Lives Matter onto the street, why don't we burn the words into the blacktop with a fucking blowtorch?


Anonymous said...

FDR is a Socialist and so is Biden.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

THE WASHINGTON POST:
Trump Ponders Being a Loser
12:16 pm
“Trailing in the polls and with little time left to change the trajectory or closing themes of the presidential race, President Trump has spent the final days of the campaign complaining that the coronavirus crisis is getting too much coverage — and openly musing about losing.

“Trump has publicly lamented about what a loss would mean, spoken longingly of riding off into the sunset and made unsubstantiated claims that voter fraud could cost him the election. He has sarcastically threatened to fire state officials if he doesn’t win and excoriated his rival Joe Biden as someone it would be particularly embarrassing to lose to.”

(pardon me while I slap my knee)



THE DAILY BEAST:
Giuliani Says Barr Is Blocking His Hunter Biden Play
12:00 pm
“Weeks after Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani first pushed the Hunter Biden files and a collection of sordid dirt to the New York Post in a last-ditch effort to drag his client across the 2020 finish line, both he and the president, as well as several of Trump’s political lieutenants, have grown frustrated at the lack of impact it’s had.

“But rather than conceding that the broader public might not be interested, Trump and Giuliani have instead put the blame for the failure to break through in part on Attorney General William Barr.”

Now why would Barr be 'blocking' it if it has substance?

Anybody care to try to give that a shot?

__________

Meanwhile:
The Economist: The story of Hunter Biden and the diminishing returns to disinformation.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

SIMPLE FACTS

Steph
@4everaPatriot76
Thread

THE #BIDENFIVE

From @AlexMarlow interview with Peter Schweitzer

Before Joe Biden became Vice President, his family was not doing ANY foreign deals.

Hunter: Before Joe became President, Hunter was an online gambling lobbyist in Europe.

Ten days after flying to China on air force 2, Hunter joins the board of Directors and gets an equity stake in a Chinese government financed investment firm called BHR Partners.

continues in DETAILED THREAD:

https://twitter.com/4everaPatriot76/status/1321240362522955778

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In his State of the Union address, President Trump was entirely right to reject “new calls to adopt socialism in our country.” He was right to add that “America was founded on liberty and independence — not government coercion,” and to “renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country.”

Roosevelt created the Social Security program. He insisted on a minimum wage. He fought to protect the interests of the working poor. But FDR was firmly committed to private property and to free markets. Roosevelt — the nation’s greatest progressive — was no socialist. Those who now favor large-scale change should avoid a term, and a set of practices, that have so often endangered both liberty and prosperity.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/02/09/attention-sanders-roosevelt-was-no-socialist/

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

"Detailed thread:"
More of the story of Hunter Biden and the diminishing returns to disinformation.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In his State of the Union address, President Trump was entirely right to reject “new calls to adopt socialism in our country.” He was right to add that “America was founded on liberty and independence — not government coercion,” and to “renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country.”

Roosevelt created the Social Security program. He insisted on a minimum wage. He fought to protect the interests of the working poor. But FDR was firmly committed to private property and to free markets. Roosevelt — the nation’s greatest progressive — was no socialist. Those who now favor large-scale change should avoid a term, and a set of practices, that have so often endangered both liberty and prosperity.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/02/09/attention-sanders-roosevelt-was-no-socialist/

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Trump War Room
@TrumpWarRoom

Joe Biden claims he never talked with his family members about their foreign business deals.

Biden family whistleblower Tony Bobulinski says Joe Biden is lying.

VIDEO:

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1321240647970545664



Hunter's CEO of his China operation (hired after Joe interviewed him and a multi-millionaire himself) has tons of documentation to back his charges that Joe is lying.

And credibility.

unlike Joe

Anonymous said...



But FDR was firmly committed to private property and to free markets.


and to prove this, he was such a proponent of wage and price controls, employers had to figure a work-around to offer a higher total compensation, so health insurance as an employee benefit was BORN.

and i should have known...

cass sunstein wrote the fucking op/ed.

alky, you can't even comprehend the shit you PLAGIARIZE.




Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

FBI Arrests White Supremacist Leader [of the Base] In Michigan
12:11 pm

“Federal agents on Thursday arrested two men, including the self-proclaimed leader of the Base, a violent, white supremacist group, as part of a continuing crackdown on extremism in Michigan three weeks after the FBI said it thwarted a plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer,” the Detroit News reports.
___________

Now why would he call his gang "the Base"? Whose base could he possibly mean?

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


More of the story of Joe Biden diminishing

COMING UP LATER !!!

ROFLMFAO !!!




of course Joe's corruption is no laughing matter.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Re 11:41

I bet Trump is upset that he was arrested. I mean, we know there are "fine people" on both sides.

I guess this is yet another reason Trump is P.O.'s with Barr.

(Strangely, Barr is no longer obeying orders. Wonder why?

Do you suppose he fears legal action from the next administration (and/or from his own Justice Dept and FBI? Just sayin.'

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

the ignorant "pastor" James said...

Now why would he call his gang "the Base"? Whose base could he possibly mean?



Well they also planned to hang President Trump so maybe they are Kamala supporters ?

ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID ???

well you do have trouble even waterboying your plagiarized shit ao maybe yes.

ROFLMFAO !!!

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

* so

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

P.O.'d

Anonymous said...

Nicklaus states that Trump has already delivered on his promises, though neglects to specify which victories Trump has achieved since moving into the White House. He also claims that electing Trump is key to avoiding “a socialist America and have the government run your life.”

Anonymous said...



Well they also planned to hang President Trump so maybe they are Kamala supporters ?


the pederast and the alky can always be counted upon for several LIES OF OMISSION per day.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He quoted FDR.

You don't believe that we should have a minimum wage.

You don't understand that we have a 40 hour work week and overtime pay.

You don't think that the workers can organize to get better wages and benefits.

You don't believe in government safety rules in working environment.

You don't believe in smog controls because the free market will protect the environment.

I can write a book about how dangerous the covid-19 pandemic is his fault. He knew in February, but he failed to act,to save the stock market.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

We all know whose base was meant.
;-)

Actually, you told me something I did NOT know. I didn't know they were planning to hang Trump.

Is that true? If so, they sure were ambitious!

So I guess they must have meant some other Base. Thanks for making that clear.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Some Republicans still won't support a law condemning lynching of n****s

Anonymous said...



two things,

first, don't proceed to tell me what i believe.

second, let's take you up on this:

I can write a book about how dangerous the covid-19 pandemic is his fault.

go for it. be specific. provide examples. it need not be a book. just a few paragraphs not to exceed the character limit of a single comment.

be original. no copy/pastes. no PLAGIARISM.

please, proceed to tell us precisely and exactly why the pandemic is Trump's FAULT.

let 'er rip, tater chip.



JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

the ignorant "pastor" James said...
Re 11:41

I bet Trump is upset that he was arrested. I mean, we know there are "fine people" on both sides.

I guess this is yet another reason Trump is P.O.'s with Barr.

(Strangely, Barr is no longer obeying orders. Wonder why?

Do you suppose he fears legal action from the next administration (and/or from his own Justice Dept and FBI? Just sayin.'


Couldn't even finish replying to the "pastor's" previous post and he already PROVED HE REALLY IS THIS STUPID.

He was planning to hang Trump you idiot.


Can't make this shit up !!!

Anonymous said...



Some Republicans still won't support a law condemning lynching of n****s


because it's an unnecessary, stupid and showboating law that is completely fucking meaningless.

which explains exactly why you support it.

we have laws condemning and making illegal the taking of human life, alky.

you just can't get cynical enough, can you?

LOL.

you fucking worthless piece of shit.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Give us a link to a credible article indicating that he/they were planning to hang Trump.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I really do want to see that article.
Can't believe I missed out on a matter so important.

Why wasn't that mentioned in anything that I read?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

RAT SAYS:
go for it. be specific. provide examples. it need not be a book. just a few paragraphs not to exceed the character limit of a single comment.
be original. no copy/pastes. no PLAGIARISM.
please, proceed to tell us precisely and exactly why the pandemic is Trump's FAULT.
let 'er rip, tater chip.
____________

Rat, every single time Trump played down the danger of the Virus, as he did repeatedly, even when he knew better, that would be an example of his being guilty of misleading people and causing sickness and death.

But I guess if we quote him, you'll say we're "plagiarizing."
_________

BTW, plagiarizing would be quoting something he said as if we said it.

Misquoting him by ascribing our own words to him would not be plagiarizing, but forgery.


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I'm still waiting and wanting to see that article.

Anonymous said...



too fucking lazy to read past goddard and MSDNC, pederast?


Whitmer kidnap plotter also wanted to hang Trump, other politicians, FBI says

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/28/militia-member-helped-feds-infiltrate-whitmer-kidnap-crew-fbi-says/6060368002/


it wasn't in anything you read because all your read are fucking hacks who feed your confirmation bias.


fucking asshole.


Anonymous said...



Rat, every single time Trump played down the danger of the Virus, as he did repeatedly, even when he knew better, that would be an example of his being guilty of misleading people and causing sickness and death.

no, that would be an example of Trump wishing to avert a nationwide panic. we already DID have a massive run on the grocery stores. toilet paper almost became currency for fuck's sake.

i get it.

you think that Trump should've called a press conference telling the nation -

HO-LEE FUCKING SHEET. WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

tip o'neill famously said "all politics are local." in the case of the pandemic and subsequent response he was correct.

and please explain why those who most vehemently HATE Trump, would've listened to a word he said re: the pandemic.





JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...



Man charged in Whitmer kidnapping plot also threatened to hang Trump, Obama online

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/29/whitmer-kidnapping-plot-man-charged-threatened-trump-obama-online/6067348002/

yep, another story suppressed by MOST of the MSM because it goes against their pushed narrative.

ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.


and the ignorant left will sit obediently and wait for their next spoon-fed lie. It is actually dangerous now.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

James, the racist rodent bastard has nothing but anger and prejudice. He obviously hasn't studied history or even basic economics and science, he's history is well documented.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The President keeps saying that the Democrats are socialist. The Republicans have been using the same rhetoric for 75 years.

October 20, 1952, guess who said this!

Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.

 

Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.

 

Socialism is what they called farm price supports.

 

Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.

 

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

 

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.


 

When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan "Down With Socialism" on the banner of his "great crusade," that is really not what he means at all.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Trump War Room
@TrumpWarRoom

Joe Biden claims he never talked with his family members about their foreign business deals.

Biden family whistleblower Tony Bobulinski says Joe Biden is lying.
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1321240647970545664


MAKES ME WONDER how many on the left realize the extremely credible whistleblower Bobulinski has absolutely nothing to do with Guluiani ???

Tom Elliott
@tomselliott

Via @GrabienMedia, there’s a total ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN/MSNBC blockade on Biden’s Tony Bobulinski scandal.

Not a single mention of the story outside of FNC/FBN.
SCREENSHOT:

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1321779568362070018


Hiding Biden extends to including the entire FAKE NEWS MEDIA

DISGRACEFUL and UNAMERICAN

we are one election away from becoming a banana republic.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Thanks for the link, Rat.

Well, when I'm wrong, I will admit I'm wrong. He was/they were not referring to Trump's "base" after all.

I never came across that detailed a report on them.

from the article:
_________

“In those messages, Croft stated ‘They will have to pay for what they have done’ and ‘I don't care if we destroy this whole planet in the fight that is coming, but a reckoning is necessary."

In an exchange with someone identified by the government as “Facebook User #2,” Croft further expressed disdain for Trump. He also said a "total offensive" was planned for April 25.

Facebook closed Croft’s account for violating its “policy prohibiting certain speech or actions” in late April, according to the affidavit.


Croft opened a new account and continued posting anti-government rhetoric, the FBI said.
.

rsnell@detroitnews.com
_______

Well, I for one am not going to fault Facebook for trying to shut down their "freed of speech." Some lines should be drawn somewhere.

What a bunch of nuts! To think that they thought they could successfully seize and execute or hold for ransom that many people of all kinds of political stances, and that this would be in defense of America.

Nuts! And that this guy could get others to follow along with him! Scary!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

*freedom of speech

C.H. Truth said...

I seem to recall daily press conferences which featured two of the top epidemiologist in the world, where they spent generally over an hour daily going through everything that the Government was doing in response.

I remember Trump and the Federal Government setting up temporary hospitals in California, Oregon, Washington, sending medical ships and medical personnel to both California and New York.

I remember ventilators being built, shipped, and then reshipped between states that needed them. There is not a single records of someone dying due to a lack of hospital bed or lack of respirator.

I am capable of acknowledging that even though there is little known medical correlation, that 99% of the country is under a mask mandate, and that at one time or the other that approximately 95% of the country spent time on lockdown. All that in spite of no tangible empirical evidence that any of that worked.

I personally have not been into work for nearly eight months because of decisions by my company to have everyone who can, work from home for as long as we feel comfortable doing so.


I am not sure what else people believe could have been tangibly done.

A virus really couldn't care less about the attitude of any one President. Especially since the President has no control over the actual responses (those are set by the Governors 100% of the time). Whether these Governors followed lock step with the task force recommendations or did certain other things on their own, there seems to be no noticeable difference in how those states ended up from a death per million standpoint.

This is little more than taking a deadly pandemic and blatantly using scare tactics for pure 100% partisan political reasons. Nothing more, nothing less.

Trump troll said...

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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Anonymous said...



CAPTAIN PLAGIARISM STRIKES AGAIN!!!


Greetings from the Truman Library,



Thank you for your question regarding the quote about Truman and socialism. In President Harry's Truman's remarks in Syracuse, New York on October 10, 1952, he said this:



Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.



Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.



Socialism is what they called farm price supports.



Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.



Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.



Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.



When the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan "Down With Socialism" on the banner of his "great crusade," that is really not what he means at all.



What he really means is "Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal," and "down with Harry Truman's fair Deal." That's all he means.


https://historyhub.history.gov/thread/8516

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I was going to provide it, but it destroyed your stupid argument.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is an attempt to distract attention from the greatest failure in history in response to an infection, that he knew on February 7th that the virus was spread by breathing and coughing. It was dangerous to both older people and children. He chose to make it political.

The ban on travel from China was ineffective, because the first spike was in late March and it got worse in April.

Separating the red and blue states is divisive. A true leader would have worked with both sides without making it partisan.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You call all of them socialism because of your ignorance of history

Anonymous said...




hey captain plagiarism alky...

still waiting on THIS:

I can write a book about how dangerous the covid-19 pandemic is his fault.

and please stick to the originality guidelines.

no copy/paste PLAGIARIZING allowed.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Even Eisenhower advised the GOP to grow up and accept that Social Security is good and is here to stay.

Call it socialism if you wish, seek to change or improve it if your wish, but as long as it is held in place, desired and democratically affirmed by the American people, it is a vital and helpful part of our system.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://historyhub.history.gov/thread/8516

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

1:04 Roger doesn't need to give you an "answer." At 12:10 I already gave you as good an ansser as you deserved.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your ignorance is spectator

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He doesn't reply anymore, because I have known him long enough to shred his mind.

Anonymous said...



call social security whatever you want or not, but one thing it MUST be called is UNSUSTAINABLE.

it was a welfare program cynically devised to buy votes and secure the democrats in power in perpetuity. a clever scheme until the number of workers funding each recipient went from 6-1 to 2-1. it's 'locked box' actually was locked, and secured, until 1968 when LBJ convinced congress to roll it into the general fund to pay for his expansion of the war in vietnam.

now, it simply can't sustain itself on it's current path.it lives only as long as we continue to go into debt to sustain it since no one has the political courage to unwind it. GWB tried, and was roundly castigated even though the only thing he proposed was diverting 10% of what was flowing into it to the stock markets since the ROI on SS is a paltry 1.5%.

simpson bowles proposed a plan to fix it and 0linsky rejected it out of hand.


i'm happy to have the SS debate with ANYONE on this board. bring it. i've studied the topic long and hard because it makes my fucking blood boil.



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Reply to Ch at 12:44

You write all that in such a way as to make it seem that Trump always was open and honest, and followed the advice of his scientists well.

You neglected to point out that at one point he was talking about opening up the country and packing the churches for Easter,
and Fauci and Birx went into his office and inundatged him with such a MOUNTAIN of evidence of how fatal that could be for numerous people that he grudgingly backed away from it.

You also failed to admit that even after he admitted to Woodward that he knew how dangerously air borne and serious the virus was, he continued to play down its danger with the public, and only when it became known that this was the case did he come up with his lame excuse that he didn't want the public to panic.

You also fail to emphasize that our entire country would now be better off, red states as well as blue states, if we had gotten better, more consistent messaging from Trump. Even those less populated, more rural states are now experiencing upsurges in cases, and all of the states, red or blue, that have begun to open up are finding it necessary to backtrack on that, exactly as Fauci repeatedly warned.

You also failed to mention that when CDC personnel began to say things Trump did not want the public to hear, he sidelined them and is continuing to do that today.

In his callous disregard for following the sensible guidelines of the CDC, he failed to protect even his own White House staff, his wife, his son, and even himself from the virus.

Those are some of the simple facts.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

*inundated

Anonymous said...

California Governor Gavin Newsom is not Joking.
He is a Socialist.
He is dictating what California resident must do on Thanksgiving and Christmas.

It is what is coming to all "57 States" IF Harris/biden win.

Anonymous said...

"Gov. Newsom  issued his new set of “guidelines” (orders) which ban gatherings of more than three households at a single family Thanksgiving celebration. The governor and his CHHS Secretary say no indoor gatherings will be permitted, so everyone is to plan on holding Thanksgiving out-of-doors in the backyard, or on the patio, or driveway."

The Socialist Govenor Oders, Will The they act as subjects or as Citizens in California?

C.H. Truth said...

Sorry Reverend...

a bunch of "blah blah blah" without one solid concrete critique of any actual real policy that was enacted by the White House or even the slightest hint of some policy that he should have put in place, some area where the Federal Government failed to back up states when they needed tangible assistance.

Just nonsense... because everyone understands that people were listening to Fauci, Birx, and the other doctors that were brought up every day. The President only talked about which supplies were going where, what medical equipment was being supplied, etc... etc...

ALL major medical policies and recommendations (or at least 95% of them) were coming straight from Fauci or Birx. The entire task force recommendation was written by the doctors and ultimately approved by Fauci and Birx.



Repeating nonsensical rumors held up by Politicalwire or some other obscure source as proof that our Federal Government's policies and responses to the crisis were poor is just silly. Sorry.

Anonymous said...

😆Democratic nominee Joe Biden on Wednesday described his son Hunter as “the smartest guy I know”😂

Well, he did "pass thru" millions of dollars to Joe.

FBI served search warrants on Hunter's bank account , seeking cash transfers to Joe.