Sunday, November 29, 2020

Recount Recap Iowa-02: Counting over and certification will happen

Miller-Meeks to be certified as the winner by 6 votes
Republican Mariannette Miller-Meeks remains atop Iowa's 2nd District congressional race despite a Saturday recount in Clinton County that eroded her already single-digit lead to just six votes. The Clinton County tally concluded a recount in the 24-county southeast Iowa district, which extends from Jasper and Marion counties in the Des Moines metro to Davenport, and includes Iowa City and Burlington. The vote will go to a state canvassing board Monday to be certified, which would make Miller-Meeks the official winner.
In a statement, Hart's campaign manager, Zach Meunier, did not say whether the campaign will file a legal challenge in the race, the closest House election in the nation. That would trigger a review by a judicial panel and cast continued uncertainty over the outcome.

Well we will have to see whether or not the Hart campaign decides to make any more legal challenges. Seems they did pretty well with the recount overall and may actually stand to lose votes if there are legal challenges, given she made up 26 of her 41 votes in the county that failed to follow Secretary of State instructions and ended up with a final total that exceeded the number of votes cast. 

There is nothing in Iowa law that would allow for a third counting of the ballots, and the time to challenge individual ballots was during the recount process. Unless there is some sort or more broad legal challenge to a particular set of ballots or something of that nature, I am not sure what sort of legal action could be taken. 

The Hart campaign made some rhetorical remarks about voter suppression, and suggested that they will carefully review what happens on Monday, but did not make any statements regarding any potential legal challenge. While this doesn't necessarily qualify as a "concession" at this point, I would have expected them to have already determined their legal path (if they had one) and that they would have been prepared to announce it at the end of the recount.


81 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Republicans did well in the house.

The Georgia runoff elections are going to be interesting.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

"Do not ask, What is my right?
Ask, What is my responsibility?"

--A Cherokee leader whose early leadership began when the first Cherokee in their area died of Covid (and consisted of strongly emphasizing mask wearing and distancing) resulting in an amazingly low number of Cherokee cases and deaths in a state where cases and deaths are soaring whose governor is still refusing to encourage mask wearing.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Cherokees learned to take pandemics seriously when Europeans first introduced diseases that proved fatal among them.

Anonymous said...

Blogger JamesNewLeaf said...

"Do not ask, What is my right?
Ask, What is my responsibility?"



share these words with every liberal who thinks their every wish, want, and desire is a fucking right.

like health care.

then tell them to shut the fuck up, and take some personal responsibility for once in their pathetic, whiny-assed lives.

geezus pederast, your hypocrisy knows no bounds.



Stacey Lennox said...

With a largely confirmed natural immune response, it would be impossible to credit the vaccine for preventing illness. Also, were the study subjects tested for innate immunity bases on T-cell or B-cell activity? If not, it cannot be certain the vaccine was responsible for the lack of illness in any given subject.

And while it may not hurt, no science supports recovered patients getting vaccinated at this point or for compulsory immunization of children in the absence of a preexisting condition that would compromise their immune system.

However, it is not surprising to hear this from Dr. Fauci, considering he denied the outcome of at least two dozen studies on natural immunity in congressional testimony under direct questioning from Senator Rand Paul. Weird, since one of the studies was released from Fauci’s agency, the NIH. CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield also did not include this information when he said 90% of the population was still susceptible to COVID-19.

But never fear, Dr. Fauci expects to have the same or a larger role in the Biden administration COVID-19 response. He also supports national mask mandates and praised the response of America’s worst governor, New York’s Andrew Cuomo. It will be up to governors like Ron DeSantis in Florida and Brian Kemp in Georgia to defy any federal orders and litigate them. It is up to Congress to find out why the response isn’t being governed by accepted science.


My truck accident damaged my mind.

#herdimmunity

Anonymous said...


But never fear, Dr. Fauci expects to have the same or a larger role in the Biden administration COVID-19 response.

no worries alky. i've been ignoring phony fauci for some time now, and that will continue once slow joe an da ho are installed.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Biden may be a transitional leader who can take us into a whole new world.

Democratic Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama managed to introduce a few reforms, but they got far less than they wanted. Despite increased charter schools and merit pay, it’s still very difficult to reward good teachers and fire bad ones: Every year, incompetent and even criminal teachers are shuffled from school to school (“the dance of the lemons”) or allowed to spend their days doodling in city offices (“rubber rooms”).

Biden is in an unusually good position to break this dismal pattern. With 30 years on the Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee, he knows as much about “abroad” as anybody. As a moderate Democrat, he can position himself at the vital center, between the old left, which is tied to the unions, and the do-nothing Republicans.

At 78, he’s unlikely to run for a second term (which would mean asking Americans to keep him in the world’s most difficult job until he’s 86), so he probably has unusual freedom to reform the public sector. This is surely where most Americans also belong: More than 60% of voters, including a majority of Democrats, tell pollsters that they support serious structural reform of government. 

So look around the world, Joe: Set up an office to study what works in other countries; copy the best and avoid the worst; build back better not just on the basis of U.S. examples, but foreign ones too. China is a particularly important example to study. Not only can it teach the U.S. a thing or two about how to build airports and harness the power of the internet of things, but it can also teach what happens when countries become complacent and parochial. 

When Columbus reached the Americas on the Santa Maria in 1492, China accounted for a fifth of the world’s economy,  it and boasted the world’s most sophisticated government and its most powerful navy (some Chinese ships were more than 400 feet long, to the Santa Maria’s 70 feet). But eventually, complacency set in: While European states fiercely competed against each other, copying technology and ideas to improve their administrative and military machines, China atrophied, with mandarins learning the same Confucian texts decade after decade and century after century, and emperors turning their backs on the world. 

In 1525, China destroyed its world-beating fleet, setting fire to some ships and leaving others to rot, in order to prevent the country’s purity from being contaminated by contact with other countries. In 1792, the Qianlong emperor famously dismissed a British envoy, George Macartney, who had come bearing a treasure trove of gifts in an attempt to persuade China to open up to trade: “We have never valued ingenious articles, nor do we have the slightest need of your country’s manufactures.”

Within a generation, China was a plaything of foreign powers. The modern Chinese have learned from that lesson. Has Joe Biden?


John Micklethwait is the editor in chief of Bloomberg; Adrian Wooldridge is the political editor of the Economist. They are the co-authors of “The Wake-Up Call: Why the Pandemic Has Exposed the Weakness of the West, and How to Fix It,” published by Harper Via and Short Books.

Anonymous said...

The following peculiarities also lack compelling explanations:

1. Late on election night, with Trump comfortably ahead, many swing states stopped counting ballots. In most cases, observers were removed from the counting facilities. Counting generally continued without the observers

2. Statistically abnormal vote counts were the new normal when counting resumed. They were unusually large in size (hundreds of thousands) and had an unusually high (90 percent and above) Biden-to-Trump ratio

3. Late arriving ballots were counted. In Pennsylvania, 23,000 absentee ballots have impossible postal return dates and another 86,000 have such extraordinary return dates they raise serious questions

4. The failure to match signatures on mail-in ballots. The destruction of mail in ballot envelopes, which must contain signatures

5. Historically low absentee ballot rejection rates despite the massive expansion of mail voting. Such is Biden’s narrow margin that, as political analyst Robert Barnes observes, ‘If the states simply imposed the same absentee ballot rejection rate as recent cycles, then Trump wins the election’

6. Missing votes. In Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 50,000 votes held on 47 USB cards are missing

7. Non-resident voters. Matt Braynard’s Voter Integrity Project estimates that 20,312 people who no longer met residency requirements cast ballots in Georgia. Biden’s margin is 12,670 votes

8. Serious ‘chain of custody’ breakdowns. Invalid residential addresses. Record numbers of dead people voting. Ballots in pristine condition without creases, that is, they had not been mailed in envelopes as required by law

9. Statistical anomalies. In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89 percent of the votes counted. For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch. It is particularly perplexing that all statistical anomalies and tabulation abnormalities were in Biden’s favor. Whether the cause was simple human error or nefarious activity, or a combination, clearly something peculiar happened.

If you think that only weirdos have legitimate concerns about these findings and claims, maybe the weirdness lies in you.


https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-2020-presidential-election-is-deeply-puzzling/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If Biden is successful people like you will be seen as historical asshole failures.


FDR

REAGAN

BIDEN

C.H. Truth said...

However, it is not surprising to hear this from Dr. Fauci, considering he denied the outcome of at least two dozen studies on natural immunity in congressional testimony under direct questioning from Senator Rand Paul. Weird, since one of the studies was released from Fauci’s agency, the NIH. CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield also did not include this information when he said 90% of the population was still susceptible to COVID-19.

This is the new version of liberalism...

They no longer claim we should "listen to science".

Now they demand we "listen to the experts".


Sounds like a subtle difference, but it's not. Science is a matter of numbers, analysis, testing, and proving something. There is no real "opinions" in science other than in the hypothesis stage, when they are still testing and troubleshooting an issue.

If two different scientists have two competing hypotheses, science demands that testing and confirmation determines which is closer to being correct. Science doesn't take "degrees" or "reputation" into account when proving a hypothesis.

But if you say "listen to the experts" and then you get to pick and choose your own "experts" while disregarding other equally qualified "experts" who disagree, then you are simply politicizing the issue and pretty much ignoring science.


The smartest scientist in the world can provide us a hypothesis that seems foolproof to the average person. But if testing shows that it's wrong, then it's wrong no matter how many letters are behind that expert's name.

How often has a scientific study been provided and the argument from those who don't like the results are to go "quote" an "expert" who provides little more than an "opinion" that would suggest a scientific study to be wrong.

They won't provide data or a competing study or anything concrete. Just that so-and-so or some agency has provided an opinion that differs.


anonymous said...

The following peculiarities also lack compelling explanations:

The only thing compelling about those peculiarities is that they are all BULLSHIT!!!! Like Lil Schitty's interesting read proving you and the entire GOP have lost your fucking minds!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! 3 recounts in Ga have proven the Biden win and the anomalies of releases have nothing to do with the final actual count your dumb fuck!!!!!

Anonymous said...


Biden is in an unusually good position to break this dismal pattern. With 30 years on the Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee, he knows as much about “abroad” as anybody. As a moderate Democrat, he can position himself at the vital center, between the old left, which is tied to the unions, and the do-nothing Republicans.


every single foreign policy idea to ever tumble out of slow joe's pie hole has been spectacularly, stupendously and galactically wrong.

he's the clown who favored the balkanization of iraq along sectarian lines and he's the fucking stooge who thought killing osama bin laden was a bad idea.

and we're about to install this drooling stumble-fuck into the white house when we know with absolute certainty that he is bought and fucking paid for by the chi-coms.

proving once again that the sheer stupidity of the American electorate is endless.


anonymous said...


However, it is not surprising to hear this from Dr. Fauci, considering he denied the outcome of at least two dozen studies on natural immunity in congressional testimony under direct questioning from Senator Rand Paul


BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!! Suggest you review the transcript....he kick Dr Pauls old white ass into next week!!!!!!!!! Now Lil Schtiiy is an expert in diseases.....TOO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!

Anonymous said...


This is the new version of liberalism...

They no longer claim we should "listen to science".

Now they demand we "listen to the experts".


on the subject of science, liberalism lost all credibility with me when they told me there are 57 genders.

C.H. Truth said...

Biden may be a transitional leader who can take us into a whole new world.

When 30% of his own Party and nearly half the country believes cheating is the reason he won... what sort of world are we transitioning to?

This is guy who has no big ideas, is not inspirational to any degree, and will have limited congressional support.

The main reason he likely won the election was because he was not Donald Trump. He's the Jimmy Carter of this generation at best. At worst he will be a bigger laughingstock than even Carter was.

Anonymous said...


The main reason he likely won the election was because he was not Donald Trump. He's the Jimmy Carter of this generation at best. At worst he will be a bigger laughingstock than even Carter was.

i suggest we remain true to recent historical precedent and draw up articles of impeachment immediately. recent history shows us that there need not be a valid reason.



C.H. Truth said...

on the subject of science, liberalism lost all credibility with me when they told me there are 57 genders.

My favorite was an article that was co-signed by a whole bunch of people who called themselves scientists, who were there to tell us as "scientists" that someday they believe that we "will" find a gene or something that will actually help us identify "gender".

We have still yet to find the so called "gay gene" which is supposed to tell us why some people are attracted to the person of the same sex... but they figure there is a gene that will allow us to scientifically tell the difference between Gender Fluid and Gender Variant or the difference between a Pangender and a Transgender or a Cis Male and a Cisgender Man.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He's far more experienced than Carter.

He's facing the biggest challenge since 1933. But FDR had a majority in the Congress.

The expansion of executive power gives him leverage far more than ever!

It was more than a referendum on the lame duck President, the pandemic presents a challenge and an opportunity to make a historic transition into a better world.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott just admitted prejudice. Genetics are too complicated for a paper pushing obscure blogger.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

He's far more experienced than Carter.


the sum total of his accomplishments after 47 years in DC is fucking ZERO.

He's facing the biggest challenge since 1933.

he's facing the flu. and thanks to Trump, we'll have a vaccine available in a matter of weeks.

The expansion of executive power gives him leverage far more than ever!

only a fucking imbecile thinks this is a good thing.

the pandemic presents a challenge and an opportunity to make a historic transition into a better world.

LOL.

go hide under your bed, drama queen. the nurses will tell you when it's safe to come out.

C.H. Truth said...

The expansion of executive power gives him leverage far more than ever!

There is no expansion of executive power.

The new USSC with five solid conservatives will see to that!


Remember how often Obama got taken down by the courts trying to expand his executive power? That was back when there were only three real conservatives and two (Roberts and Kennedy) swing conservatives who either could at any time side with the four liberals.

If Biden attempt to pull any of that Obama stuff, he will be slammed every single time!

anonymous said...


My favorite was an article that was co-signed by a whole bunch of people who called themselves scientists


Actually Lil Schitty, my favorite is you being an expert in law, science and statistics as you clean toilets at your day job!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!! BTW....still no authors or where they are from......adding more to what little credibility the report you posted has!!!!!!!!!! Must be great walking around in a trump induced coma of stupidity!!!!

anonymous said...

proving once again that the sheer stupidity of the American electorate is endless.


Very true rat especially when it comes to you and Lil Schitty for pushing more bullshit conspiracy lies than anyone!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Anonymous said...


My favorite was an article that was co-signed by a whole bunch of people who called themselves scientists, who were there to tell us as "scientists" that someday they believe that we "will" find a gene or something that will actually help us identify "gender".

i recall that and it was a good one. recently i think it's been eclipsed by those who think math is not absolute though. 2+2 does not necessarily equal 4 any longer. this is a social construct according to some geniuses on the left. what these fucktards can't seem to process is that a physical construct such as a building or machine DOES require one to believe that 2+2 really, truly does equal fucking 4.


Anonymous said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

Scott just admitted prejudice.



only in the eyes of an asshole who would seek it where it does not exist.

what you just exhibited alky is a childish gesture used by mediocre people to silence others. like declaring someone a racist. or my personal fave - the 'dog whistle' that only liberals can seem to hear.

what's next from you alky? gonna tell us again about indy and how he fled the blog because he just couldn't tolerate the musings of our host?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

On November 3rd Americans rediscovered their self-declared historical mission as a bastion of liberty and enlightenment.

80,000,000 believed that 2+2=4

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, if you read the Supreme Court hearings on Obamacare even 2 Trump appointees are not going to overturn Obamacare.

anonymous said...

anks to Trump, we'll have a vaccine available in a matter of weeks.



BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! BULLSHIT!!!! Thanx to drug companies who used the chinese genome discovery to forge head with a vaccine and ignoring trump downplaying the virus from day 1 of the pandemic...!!!

Anonymous said...



Trump is an odious popinjay with astoundingly abhorrent and dangerous views he makes little effort to conceal. In this regard, at least, he is authentic: what you see is, regrettably, what we may all get. Will Americans rediscover their self-declared historical mission as a bastion of liberty and enlightenment? Don’t bet on it.

https://theconversation.com/demagoguery-the-american-way-55669


pointing out the alky's plagiarism never gets old.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Indyvoter2 told me that Scott lost his mind five years ago.

He sometimes called me out, because I'm not perfect, but since Trump because a birther Scott asshole lost his mind

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Scott, if you read the Supreme Court hearings on Obamacare even 2 Trump appointees are not going to overturn Obamacare.



and if you had bothered to read and attempted to understand roberts' original opinion on 0linsky-care you would know that the reason he upheld it is because at it's core it is constitutional. his opinion basically states that if we as Americans are stupid enough to elect politicians who would draft and pass such shitty legislation, then we basically deserve what we get.

it's not the courts position to save us from ourselves.

elect assholes, live with the shit that such assholes produce.

liberals managed to utterly destroy the health insurance that upwards of 90% of American's absolutely loved. that's evil personified.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I said this, not what you claimed I I stole.

I didn't steal anything asshole.



On November 3rd Americans rediscovered their self-declared historical mission as a bastion of liberty and enlightenment.

80,000,000 believed that 2+2=4

You can't comprehend English!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Indyvoter2 told me that Scott lost his mind five years ago.



sure he did alky.

one thing that we all witnessed with our own eyes here was when he referred to YOU as A FUCKING MORON.







anonymous said...

So nice how Trump uses than tosses his allies under the bus like a petulant child.....sad the slurpers think he is a genius.....BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!

He has stepped up his war on Fox News, and in a tweet on Saturday, the president described the network as "virtually unwatchable" and hyped right-wing networks OANN and Newsmax.

C.H. Truth said...

Sorry Denny...

This study has been relinked by many outlets including Real Clear Politics, The Federalist, Spectator, and others.

The fact that you choose to use the logical fallacy of Ad Hominem (shoot the messenger) means you have no logical grounds to take it on.


Your only actual concrete critique is that you believe that the large drops should not be questioned or evaluated because you stated that "in real life" they represent data to far outside the margin of error to be taken seriously.

Which is nothing more than confusion on your part between a study that evaluates "measured data" that involves a margin of error (such as a group of polls) and a study that evaluates raw concrete data that has no margin of error (such as the number of votes recorded).

You will always have a margin of error on a poll and its fine to toss a poll and not consider it, if it falls outside a normal range.

But the vote count certainly does NOT have ANY margin of error.

Therefore you cannot "throw" out the idea of evaluating these out of the ordinary vote counts... any more than you could just physically decide to toss these vote counts (from the election total) because they were out of the ordinary.


But of course, your point that such a variance should not be taken seriously is exactly the point of the article. These counts are so far out of the realm of normalcy that nobody should actually believe that it could happen. There was no place in the State of Michigan that could account for the 141K Biden to 6K Trump vote drop.

Yet it happened. It was recorded and it had to have been simultaneously recorded across multiple precincts or even multiple counties because it wasn't recorded in any single precinct or even any county anywhere.


For you to make yourself out to look smart by suggesting it cannot be questioned because it was too far outside a margin of error makes you look stupid in more ways than I can count.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Party line talking points, you echo like a puppet character from Walt Disney studios!

anonymous said...

rudy has been relinked by many outlets including Real Clear Politics,


IOW's the authors and source are anonymous!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Sorry Lil Schitty, just because the federalist etc have published an unvetted opinion piece does not make it correct or sourced!!!! Thanx for proving my point that you are a worthless fear mongering lying trump supporter with ZERO proof of fraud!!!!!!!! The report is bullshit, just like you!!!!! BTW.....stop wasting your time rationalizing your own weaknesses!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

There was no place in the State of Michigan that could account for the 141K Biden to 6K Trump vote drop.

It's pretty obvious to me that the high turnout and the educated women turnout changed the results.

Use Excel asshole

C.H. Truth said...

Indyvoter2 told me that Scott lost his mind five years ago.

sure he did alky.


I wonder if Roger actually has this IndyVoter's email address or has ever corresponded with him outside of the blog.

Because the Indy who used to be a front page blogger on CHT and used to do all of the Congressional race projections and even the Governors races at one time is not someone I have any issues with or someone who has ever suggested that I have lost my mind.

This particular person (like many others) have told me why they no longer participate in the comment threads. That doesn't mean that the IndyVoter (and others) do not read the posts or that I never hear from them outside of the blog.

C.H. Truth said...

It's pretty obvious to me that the high turnout and the educated women turnout changed the results.

Considering Trump did better with White women, Hispanic women, and Black women in comparison to 2016... I would offer that a 141K to 6K vote drop is not explained by "educated white women".

But I give you a D- for effort.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

@Indyvoter2

Talk to him

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

By approximately 5% African American men.

African Americans have are a lot smaller percentage than educated white women.

You got an F

Anonymous said...


It's pretty obvious to me that the high turnout and the educated women turnout changed the results.

Trump did better with women in 2020 than he did in 2016, alky.

the only demo he lost voters was white men where he was -5.

and you wonder why we think you're mentally ill. you make declarative statements that are factually WRONG all the fucking TIME.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, if you contributed you got a bad deal. $3,000,000 netted 87 votes! $34,700 per vote

MADISON, Wis. – Wisconsin's partial recount boosted President-elect Joe Biden's victory by 87 votes Sunday as President Donald Trump said he was preparing a lawsuit to overturn the results.

The completion of Dane County’s retallying of the vote came two days after Milwaukee County finished its recount.

Biden netted 132 votes in Milwaukee County and Trump netted 45 votes in Dane County. When taken together, that increased Biden's statewide margin to 21,695. 

Trump's campaign paid $3 million to cover the cost of the recounts in Wisconsin’s two most Democratic counties so he could pursue a long-shot lawsuit to claim the state’s 10 electoral votes.

Anonymous said...


This particular person (like many others) have told me why they no longer participate in the comment threads.


lemme guess - the alky.



C.H. Truth said...

Sorry Roger...

Didn't contribute a dime to any politician and haven't in years. So I certainly did not contribute or care about a recount in Wisconsin. But if you bring it up another 100 times (as I am sure you will) then perhaps I will still not care at all.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

When President-elect Joe Biden takes the oath of office in January, he’ll have a group of voters to thank in particular for delivering him the White House: women.

Women supported Biden at higher rates than men — especially Black women voters, who rallied behind President Obama’s former V.P. at crucial turns during his 2020 presidential campaign.

While election data won’t be finalized until each state finishes tabulating its votes, early exit polls show President-elect Biden winning the votes of 57 percent of women, compared to 45 percent of men. In comparison, President Trump won 42 percent of women’s votes and 53 percent of men’s votes.

Katarina Trautmann

Women once again voted at higher rates than men, and in this year of record voter turnout, they’ve cast more votes than ever before.

NBC

Anonymous said...



‘Arithmetically impossible’! Pollster explains why the 2020 election is ‘deeply puzzling’ in fact, stat, and math-filled thread

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/29/arithmetically-impossible-pollster-explains-why-the-2020-election-is-deeply-puzzling-in-fact-stat-and-math-filled-thread/



compelling read.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It was breaking news that shoved it up your ass!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

It was breaking news that shoved it up your ass!


LOL.

alky, your plagiarisms mean nothing around here and only serve to make you look like a fool.

LOL.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Jimmy Hitler said Trump did better with women in 2020 than he did in 2016, alky.

President-elect Biden winning the votes of 57 percent of women, compared to 45 percent of men. In comparison, President Trump won 42 percent of women’s votes and 53 percent of men’s votes.

He should quit drinking PBR

C.H. Truth said...

lemme guess - the alky.

actually I get more complaints about the Reverend and his constant spamming than I do about old Roger... I think most people just ignore Roger, while it's hard to ignore 10-15 cut and pastes every thread.

But generally there is a consensus that the entire dialogue has diminished from back in the day when there was real discussion and real back and forth.

Keep in mind that there was a time when people like Sean Trende, Gerry Daly, Stacy Matthews and other prominent bloggers participated on the old CHT comment threads.

One could even argue that things were better when we had some of those old liberals (like Timbuk, Alvy and gang) around to participate... who went off to their own circle jerk. They might have pains in the asses, but they were not stupid pains in the asses.

anonymous said...

twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/29/arithmetically



BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! More fake conspiracy bullshit being forward by the biggest NY moron rat hole!!!!!!!!!! Compelling for ag school drop outs whose life revolves around sucking trumps limp dick!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

When I could post he got 1,500 + visits per day

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Chargers vs. Bills

anonymous said...

Lil Schitty posted


Considering Trump did better with White women

Really????? You have a link to prove that statement is accurate?????? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I haven't seen that Buffalo play, so I will let you suck Trump's Trump's mushroom dick.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said..
.
Jimmy Hitler said Trump did better with women in 2020 than he did in 2016, alky.



no stupid.

i said this:

Trump did better with women in 2020 than he did in 2016, alky.

the only demo he lost voters was white men where he was -5.

and you wonder why we think you're mentally ill. you make declarative statements that are factually WRONG all the fucking TIME.


your nbc news plagiarism did have one worthwhile point.: Trump was up with non-college educated and evangelical women.

the point remains - the only demo Trump lost voters was white men, down by 5 points.

and i don't drink PBR, alky, and can't remember the last time i had one. i leave that piss to man-bunned metrosexual liberal pansies who want to feel cool.

i'm a northeast craft brew IPA guy.

anonymous said...

Just like your anonymous POS report, Lil Schitty.....you got caught again in the frenzy to make trump look good!!!!!!!!! Lies and conspiracy theories is all you got.....all those theories have been shot to shit by trump appointed judges!!!!! Keep digging!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I proved he was full of shit, then he dissapeared

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

When I could post he got 1,500 + visits per day



LOL. yeah, alky. folks were drawn to your plagiarized copy/paste's like flies to shit.

LOL.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I didn't like IPA. I loved Germany Lagers. Whiehen Steffaner. Something like that

Anonymous said...



The strongest argument for Biden’s victory is not the vote tally. It is the monolithic narrative, pumped up like one of those inflatable play castles at a child’s birthday party. With every passing day, that narrative becomes more boisterous, more assertive, more uncompromising. It is a collective primal scream, emitted with eyes shut and ears plugged.

There is a problem for the narrative, however. Or more to the point, there are 73 million problems. A major concession in the Biden-won-give-it-up-narrative is revealed by the hawkers of the “Unity Now” meme. Let us all come together as one nation, under Joe, and reassert the American normality that has been so sorely missing under the despotic reign of Donald Trump.

No. No, that’s not going to fly, and not only because of the snarling viciousness that attended Donald Trump and his entire administration from the moment he was elected until now. Granted, Democrats are masters of hypocrisy. I will give them that. Brazenness is part of the formula. They are utterly unembarrassed by double standards. Indeed, they glory in them.



https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/28/reality-and-the-narrative/

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

I proved he was full of shit, then he dissapeared



Pigeon chess

Refers to having a pointless debate with somebody utterly ignorant of the subject matter, but standing on a dogmatic position that cannot be moved with any amount of education or logic, but who always proclaims victory.


https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pigeon%20chess


no alky. it's just that your pigeon chess routine always gets old. and unlike you, we're not in nursing home lockdown and have lives to live.

i leave you to jerk off by yourself.


President elect Joe Biden said...

Building back better means an updated social contract that treats American workers and working families as essential at all times, not just times of crisis –– with higher wages, stronger benefits, and fair and safe workplaces. We’ve seen millions of American workers put their lives and health on the line to keep our country going. As Biden has said, let’s not just praise them, let’s pay them — a decent wage, at least $15 per hour, and ending the tipped minimum wage and sub-minimum wage for people with disabilities, and strong benefits so they can live a middle class life and provide opportunity for their kids. This starts with passing the Protecting the Right to Organize (PRO) Act, providing public service and federal government workers with bargaining rights, and taking other steps to make it easier for workers to organize unions and collectively bargain. Biden will also address discrimination and harassment in the workplace, and pass the Paycheck Fairness Act as the next step in efforts to ensure women are paid equally for equal work. He will pass universal paid sick days and 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave. And he has a plan to ensure that every American has access to quality, affordable health care, by providing a public option and lowering costs for care and for prescription drugs.

Building back better means helping small businesses and entrepreneurs come out the other side of this crisis strong, while demanding more from corporate America. We’ve seen the second bailout in 12 years for big corporations and Wall Street. And we’ve seen the Trump Administration provide all the tools necessary to help big businesses and well-connected cronies, while small businesses had to jump through hoops and many couldn’t access the relief they needed. Biden will ensure that corporate America finally pays their fair share in taxes, puts their workers and communities first rather than their shareholders, and respects their workers’ power and voice in the workplace. And Biden will help small businesses manage through the pandemic and recover, so that millions of entrepreneurs can get back on their feet and carry this economy forward.

To see this agenda through, Joe Biden will make new, bold investments and speed up the timetable for many of the 10-year investments he has already announced.  He will pay for the ongoing costs of the plan by reversing some of Trump’s tax cuts for corporations and imposing common-sense tax reforms that finally make sure the wealthiest Americans pay their fair share. 

Today’s elevated unemployment will mean lower demand, which will mean lower growth for our economy (which relies on consumption). A robust jobs agenda will increase demand. That is why many economists agree that if we fail to make far-reaching, productive investments, it will undermine not only our long-term growth potential, but also our long-term fiscal situation. Democratic supply side economics.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Joseph Heller knew how people like him come to power.

It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.

Joseph Heller, Catch-22 (Catch-22, #1)



C.H. Truth said...

When I could post he got 1,500 + visits per day

Prior to making it an open blog... when it was actually just me and Indy (who posted almost exclusively about elections) the blog got upwards of 10,000 unique visits a day and I made several hundred dollars a month in advertising.

I was a first pager on Truth Laid Bear rankings (top 100 of the top 5000 blogs), peaking at #62 not too far behind the Powerline blog and ahead of the VodkaPundit (Stephen Green).

After deciding to include multiple posters and attempting to make it unique by allowing both liberals and conservative viewpoints, the blog started to sink (as did the advertising).

I was told by many (including Trende) that it was a huge mistake at the time, but I liked the idea. Turns out that there is very little room on politics to attempt to play both sides.

That forced me off my old platform and onto the free Blogger.com platform which started to kill things off. That and the overall movement from the "blogosphere" to "Twitter" was the downfall.

Caliphate4vr said...

As Biden has said, let’s not just praise them, let’s pay them — a decent wage, at least $15 per hour, and ending the tipped minimum wage and sub-minimum wage for people with disabilities, and strong benefits so they can live a middle class life and provide opportunity for their kids

And a pony

Caliphate4vr said...

U.S Closes 10 Military Bases Across Afghanistan

Get out!

Anonymous said...

Noem Urges People to Go Shopping as Deaths Surge
1:33 pm EST
South Dakota set a new record for COVID-19 deaths on Saturday, the Rapid City Journal reports.

Meanwhile, Gov. Kristi Noem (R), who has rejected calls for a mask mandate in her state, tweeted a plea for people to go shopping.


Some Republicans Hope Trump Will Be at the Inauguration
1:27 pm
“When President Trump lost this year’s election to Joe Biden, almost nobody around him said they could envision the losing incumbent attending his successor’s inauguration,” CNN reports.

“The image remains implausible for a President who will likely never concede and said Sunday that nothing would convince him he lost. Yet Republicans and aides to Trump are encouraging him to at least consider attending Biden’s swearing-in, hoping his presence will both reflect well on his character and help preserve his future influence but also convince Americans the election was fair.”
_________
NO. Let him stay away. That will reflect his true character, and the character-less-ness of you who cravenly support his every ridiculous whim.
___________

Trump Says He’ll Never Accept Losing the Election
1:23 pm
In his first television interview since the Nov. 3 election, President Trump suggested that he will never accept his loss to Joe Biden and continued to fling baseless accusations of election fraud, the Washington Post reports.

Said Trump: “My mind will not change in six months. There was tremendous cheating here.”

FOR WHICH YOU HAVE ADDUCED AND CAN ADDUCE NO EVIDENCE.


Bonus Quote of the Day
1:20 pm EST
“This was not hardball, this was not even softball. This was tee-ball.”
— CNN media analyst Brian Stelter, quoted by Mediaite, criticizing the Fox Business host Maria Bartiroma for letting President Trump “lie and lie and lie” in her interview.


Trump Slams Judges’ Election Decisions
1:17 pm
“President Trump blasted judges’ rejections of his legal challenges to 2020 election results and said he couldn’t be certain any of his cases would make it to the Supreme Court in his first interview since Election Day on Sunday,” Fox News reports.

Said Trump:
“We’re not allowed to put in our proof. They say you don’t have standing. I would like to file one nice big beautiful lawsuit, talking about this and many other things, with tremendous proof. We have affidavits, we have hundreds and hundreds of affidavits.”

LOL. GO AHEAD.

TRUMP IS LEARNING THAT HE IS ONLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT THE LORD OF THE UNIVERSE WHO IS ABOVE ALL LAWS.

He added:
“You mean as president of the United States, I don’t have standing? What kind of a court system is this?”

ONE THAT PREFERS TRUTHFULNESS AND JUSTICE TO THE SELF SERVING ATTEMPTS OF A CRAVEN LIAR.

Nyukyukyuk said...

Right wing whackadoodles puzzle the hell out of me, supporting one dumbass after another. If you'd have told me 12 years ago that I would be saying that George W. Bush was the best Republican President in this millennium, I'd have called you a fucking whackadoodle. And I'd have been right.

Happy bitching, Whackadoodles!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Obama will be seen by historians as a truly game changing President. Trump will be seen merely as a reaction to him whose misguided efforts will be reversed by Biden.

anonymous said...

d I made several hundred dollars a month in advertising.

I guess that's why you were always begging for money to keep the POS open!!!!!!! I kicked in a few 20's at the beginning when you did the begging......Why do I find you making several hundred a month a pile of steaming trump shit??????

opiespa said...

Wow Nyuk makes a long over due appearance....I see he is just as sharp as ever!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL BTW......It is hard not to agree he is correct!!!!!!!!

anonymous said...

And a pony

Or follow the trump plan of not paying his subcontractors and filing bankruptcies like you are!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Nyukyukyuk said...

Seriously? Start talking about the old days and look what the cat drags in?

anonymous said...



https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/28/reality-and-the-narrative/


Nothing but conspiracy theory and horseshit.....just the way asshole rat lives his menial life!!!!!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...


Trump: FBI, DOJ Are "Missing In Action, Can't Tell You Where They Are."

Answer: Doing their job, which does not include overthrowing a legitimately conducted election.

anonymous said...



I was a first pager on Truth Laid Bear rankings (top 100 of the top 5000 blogs)



Holy Shit Batman....how the mighty have fallen as the conspiracy BS ramps up!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!! Now you are nothing but a pimple on trumps huge fat white ass!!!!!!!

anonymous said...

Gee a shocking finding.....I found the source of rats claims of trump gains......exit polls BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!! from breitbart!!!!! I'm not sure which is less credible....breitbart who is dead of notoriously shitty exit polls or rat just being a dumb fuck!!!!!

Exit Polls: Donald Trump Gains Among Women and Minorities
www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/03/exit...