Friday, November 20, 2020

Was this a "legitimate" election? (Part I)

This is an interesting question and the answer is not a simple yes or no.... 

When most of the country went to bed on election night, they did so believing that Donald Trump was going to win reelection. 

  • Trump had won Florida in impressive fashion, beating his 2016 numbers across the board in pretty much every demographic. 
  • Trump had won Ohio by the same eight points he won in 2016. 
  • Trump had won in Iowa, improving slightly on his 2016 numbers. 
  • NYT needle had Trump at a greater than 95% chance of winning North Carolina 
  • NTY needle had Trump at approximately 85% chance of wining Georgia (which they projected he would win by over four points). Georgia election officials said they were done counting and would resume in the morning. 
  • Trump was leading by nearly 700K in Pennsylvania, over 300K in Michigan, and over 100K in Wisconsin. All three states announced (almost simultaneously) that they were done counting for the night and would resume in the morning.
  • The betting odds went from Biden being a 2-1 favorite to Trump being an 8-1 favorite (at around the same time that Georgia and the three great lake states announced that they had stopped counting for the night). 

Now the betting odds had been moving all night. Not just because of the states that had been called and the large leads Trump had in the great lakes battleground states. But largely because of the early bellwether precincts that were coming in across the country. Whether you were watching the 538 live update thread, following election experts on twitter, or watching cable news, they were all saying the same thing. Nearly every early precinct reporting, with every available demographic breakdown, was coming back with Trump overperforming 2016. Or if you were reading 538, they kept telling you that these early returns were a bad omen for Biden. Sure, there was the occasional bright spot for Biden. But not enough to really sway anyone. The 538 crew and liberals on twitter were already reflecting on what went wrong. 

Now these experts were smart and careful, as were the bettors. They didn't look at partial returns, knowing that some places were counting mail in ballots first and others were counting in person votes first. They were not looking at the great big leads for either candidate in states like Michigan or Arizona. They were relying on those precincts (within counties) that reported full results. More to the point, some of these bellwether precincts were rural, some suburban, some urban. Some had mostly white voters, while others were more diverse. But in pretty much every case, there was reason to believe that Trump was looking good and that Biden was in big trouble.

Meanwhile exit polling was showing that Trump had improved his standing with every single demographic except white males and that the Republican base had come out in the sort of large numbers that we had not seen since 2004. 

On top of that, Democrats were getting crushed in the down ballots. They were losing Congressional seats. Endangered Senators (like Susan Collins and Thom Tillis) were winning by comfortable margins. Expected close races (Ernst, McConnell, Graham) turned into laughers. Democrats thought they had something going in Texas but Trump was up by six and Cornyn was flirting with a double digit win. Democrats were demoralized all over the place and for good reason. 

If you wonder why the betting odds were giving Trump nearly a 90% chance at victory, it's because there was pretty much zero signs on election night (or even creeping past midnight into the next day) that this was going to be Biden's election. 

So what happened? 

Stay tuned for Part II

80 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Can't wait for Part II where Ch tries to prove that what everyone (including Trump*) thought would happen, did NOT happen.

Namely, that the mail in ballots (which for the most part were cast by Democrats, and for the most part were counted AFTER the in person ballots were counted), kept going decisively for Biden, finally giving him leads in states that mattered most with regard to the electoral votes, and a VERY impressive lead in the popular vote.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how Ch tries to spin THAT into something else.
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*His advisers had warned him this would happen, so he spent a lot of time baselessly trying to convince people that there was something drastically wrong with mail-in ballots.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I will predict ahead of time that Ch will come out with a WCNBS.
(I'll explain that later).

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Meanwhile, while wait with bated breath for Part II--

Some GOP Senators Pressure Trump to Wind Down Election Disputes

(Bloomberg) -- More Republican senators are distancing themselves from President Donald Trump’s attempts to reverse or discredit the outcome of the election...

....Thursday, Sasse issued a statement after Trump’s lawyers, led by Rudy Giuliani, held a news conference in Washington to lay out implausible scenarios of vast election-rigging schemes involving Democratic-run cities in several battleground states.

Their accusations ranged from unfounded complaints that Republicans weren’t allowed to observe vote-counting in Philadelphia and Detroit, to a claim by attorney Sidney Powell that voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems Inc. had used software made in Venezuela at the direction of the country’s former president, Hugo Chavez, who died in 2013.

In a statement on Thursday evening, Dominion rejected the accusations, which it called “a flood of absurdities.”


Thursday’s news conference signaled that Trump may try to prolong his long-shot crusade for weeks, even as Biden warns that a delayed transition could harm the country.

“What matters most at this stage is not the latest press conference or tweet, but what the president’s lawyers are actually saying in court,” Sasse said in his statement. “And based on what I’ve read in their filings, when Trump campaign lawyers have stood before courts under oath, they have repeatedly refused to actually allege grand fraud -- because there are legal consequences for lying to judges.

“We are a nation of laws, not tweets,” Sasse added.

Meanwhile, Republican Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska told reporters in the Capitol on Friday morning that Trump has a “high bar” to prove allegations that vote-counting was improperly conducted in key states that include Pennsylvania, where Biden’s lead is about 82,000 votes.

“As I’ve said, you know the president has every right to see that every ballot’s counted, but they have a high bar to make,” Sullivan told reporters. Trump’s justified in asking that legal votes be counted and illegal ones aren’t, he said, but “they got to prove it in court.”
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Simple fact: They can't.

And, as was pointed out above, they are afraid even to try.

anonymous said...

Latest poll has 75% R's thinking the election was not legit......the pied piper trump repeats the BS enough time that the weak thinking base believes him....just like the birther BS when the majority of the party thought Obama was not a citizen and was a muslim!!!!!!! God you people as dumber than a box of rocks...

C.H. Truth said...

Everything I provided Reverend...

are simple facts that you cannot dispute.

The betting odds "were" at an almost 90% Trump victory around midnight and election projectionists everywhere had no reasons to doubt that the betters were wrong. In fact, I don't recall much of anyone anywhere on election night demanding that Biden would win.


Not sure why you ask questions if you don't want answers?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Exit polling is notoriously inaccurate.
Especially in a pandemic that lead to mail and absentee voters were not interviewed.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I got a feeling that you will find a way to discredit the election, without some far fetched conspiracies.

Somehow that the late arriving of ballots were fraudulent.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm looking forward to phase two

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

With Crazy Nutcase Bull Shit

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Anonymous said...

I hope Chris is 100% Right.

"FNC’s Wallace: ‘The Squad’ Will ‘Have a Lot of Clout in the House’"

ReplyDelete

anonymous said...

re simple facts that you cannot dispute.


Like 75% of R's polled think the election was not legit???? That you have yet to clearly say Biden has won? That trump lies every time he opens his yap!!!! His base have legitimate problems with facts like you???????sad Lil Schitty!!!!

Anonymous said...

Durham investigation -official closed.

Anonymous said...

When did Trump become your President?

James?
Roger?
Dennis?

Anonymous said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

I got a feeling that you will find a way to discredit the election, without some far fetched conspiracies.



alky, this election was discredited the moment it was decided to use mail in ballots.

if you're looking to blame someone blame all the democrats who demanded mail-in because covid. they knew exactly what they were doing.

The Federalist's Mollie Hemingway was asked about the controversy surrounding the election and the mess we as a nation now find ourselves in. "COVID was the excuse given this year for rampant changes to how we vote," she said. "We have known for a very long time that mail-in balloting is ripe for fraud. There's a reason why France banned it in 1975, why the New York Times said it was ripe for fraud in 2012, why Jerry Nadler [D-NY] said that it was ripe for fraud, why earlier this year we had elections where 20% of mail-in ballots were thrown out for failing to pass scrutiny, why people were indicted in New Jersey for mail-in ballot fraud."

Here, we'd also mention that the Democrats knew all this. One of them, in fact, once put it bluntly: "Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud." That's the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

Liberal Supreme Court Justice David Souter also warned about mail-in voting. And yet here we are, with an utterly lackluster presidential candidate having bragged just a few days before the election that his team had put together "the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." He then went out to "win" 10 million more votes than electric young Barack Obama won in 2008.

How'd he do that? And what happened to this bipartisan agreement that mail-in ballots present massive opportunities for fraud in ways that in-person voting does not?

Well, Donald Trump happened. And COVID-19 happened. And leftists did what leftists do.

"It is completely reasonable," Hemingway continued, "that people look at all these changes and say, 'This is not something I have confidence in.' And so what's important about right now it's not just that you have integrity with this election, but that moving forward, never again do we have a situation where we have rampant mail-in balloting and no scrutiny for those mail-in ballots. No signature checks, no witness requirements, kicking people out of counting when it matters."


https://patriotpost.us/articles/75043-wanted-evidence-of-massive-fraud-2020-11-20


not to mention the loss of anonymous voting. if someone can look over your shoulder as you fill in your ballot with either a stack of cash in their hand for you or a gun to your head with a bullet for you, you've pretty much fucking destroyed every last shred of integrity our elections ever had.

the bonus prize for democrats in all this, and this WAS part of their goal, is they have now permanently disenfranchised millions of republican voters for life. who in their right mind will ever bother to cast another ballot convinced that the entire process is fucked?


anonymous said...

When was trump inaugurated??????

How did dominion change votes??????

anonymous said...

When did the GOP and moronic righties decide elections were only valid if they won??????

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is why I don't respond to the racist rodent bastard!

the bonus prize for democrats in all this, and this WAS part of their goal, is they have now permanently disenfranchised millions of republican voters for life. who in their right mind will ever bother to cast another ballot convinced that the entire process is fucked?



Anonymous said...

Denise completes the perfect projection.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait for coming together as a Nation on Jan. 20th, 2020.

Biden, promised to Be my President too.

A good thing .

anonymous said...

How come the goat fucker cannot provide the inauguration date of trump?????? Is he that stupid or can't read?????? BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!! Why does the goat fucker think elections are rigged?????? Why does the goat fucker hate democracy???? Why does the goat fucker fawn all over trumps old fat lying white ass???? Why is the goat fucker still unemployed??????? The only thing you and the slurpers will do is mount a twitter war on everything biden does!!!! None of it will be constructive I can't wait to say I told you so!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
I can't wait for coming together as a Nation on Jan. 20th, 2020.

Biden, promised to Be my President too.



yeah, all the heeling.

and you just might get to see a full blown dementia patient shit his pants in front of MILLIONS.


LOL.

Anonymous said...

wtf.

Trump Jan 20, 2017

Biden Jan 20, 2021

Anonymous said...

Roger Amick said...

This is why I don't respond to the racist rodent bastard!


you don't respond because it's true, you fucking imbecile.

keep bragging about your reading is fun-damental library exploits as a child alky.

it's what terribly insecure people do.

anonymous said...

And rat shits another trump turd of stupidity!!!!!! You are the root cause of the country's discord....too dumb to get out of his own way or think beyond trumps wish!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Anonymous said...

I can't wait for coming together as a Nation on Jan. 20th, 2021.

my bad.

anonymous said...

And trump will put on his baby pants and will kick his way to Mar a lago to play golf and eat hamburgers!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The Press will assist Biden.
They are invested .

anonymous said...

YEP......Trump lost Ga and maybe 2 senate seats!!!!

Transition Live Updates: Georgia Certifies Biden’s Victory, An Early Milestone Toward Finalizing Election Results
The results were certified hours after a premature announcement that the process was complete. President-elect Joe Biden announced more staff appointments and is meeting with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senator Chuck Schumer today.

RIGHT NOWBiden’s transition team renews calls for G.S.A. head to authorize the transition process to begin.
Here’s what you need to know:

Georgia certifies Biden’s victory, hours after premature announcement.
Biden-Harris team announces additional staff appointments.
Biden and Harris will meet with Pelosi and Schumer in Delaware.
Here’s what we know about Trump’s meeting with Michigan lawmakers.
Lamar Alexander urges a prompt transition, breaking with Republicans who have not recognized Biden.
Biden’s top election lawyer says Trump’s ‘absolutely appalling’ efforts to undermine the election will fail.
Trump’s attempts to overturn the election are unparalleled in American history.
On Transgender Day of Remembrance, Biden pledges protections against discrimination and violence.
Minnesota or Michigan? Trump lawyers mix up ‘M’ states in an affidavit intended to prove vote fraud.

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Anonymous said...

Denise, do you act like you do here, in real life?

Surely this is just an act.

Anonymous said...

What Gift will Jill Biden give Mrs. Trump on inauguration day?

I recall when Mrs. Trump gave Big Mike a gift, priceless.

anonymous said...

Hey goat fucker....why are you such an unemployed loser????? Economy is great and you post from a root cellar.....do you really have nothing to do???????BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

rat said:
who in their right mind will ever bother to cast another ballot convinced that the entire process is f....d?
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Well, if they're stupid enough to believe THAT, it would be good for our nation if they choose NOT ever to vote again.

anonymous said...

Hey rat......wonder if you have any solid leads to all the fraud Trump has claimed???? What do you need to acknowledge Joe won?? Votes have been counted, many certified....no double votes or fraud proven to date?????? You accepted all the house results which means something !!!!!!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

2:34
Hell, Ch, I myself went to bed Tuesday night about as depressed as I could be. When Florida went for Trump, I thought it might be over for Biden.

The only thing that helped me was, I called my sister in NC and although she was also upset, not as upset as I was. So I started watching what she had been watching, MSNBC, and was surprised to see that they were not as downcast as I thought they might be.

But it was only the next morning when I began to see the blue wave rolling in for Biden, at least in MI, WI, MN, NV, GA, and I hoped, PA, that I began to really get my hopes up.

I do not for a moment dispute that there was a lot of disappointment for Biden supporters, and I'm sure, for the betters also. (I paid no attention to them Tuesday night.) So I'm not disputing what you said so far, just wondering how you're going to spin what is to come in Part II.

Tucker Carlson said...

All of which brings us to the bombshell at the center of today's press conference that was delivered by Powell, who also serves as Gen. Mike Flynn's lawyer.

For more than a week, Powell has been all over conservative media with the following story: This election was stolen by a collection of international leftists who manipulated vote tabulating software in order to flip millions of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden. The other day on television, Powell said of Trump that when the fraud is finally uncovered, "I think we'll find he had at least 80 million votes." In other words, rigged software stole about seven million votes in this election. 

On Sunday night, "Tucker Carlson Tonight" texted her after watching one of her segments. What Powell was describing would amount to the single greatest crime in American history. Millions of votes stolen in a day, democracy destroyed, the end of our centuries-old system of self-government. Not a small thing.
'

That's a long way of saying we took Sidney Powell seriously, with no intention of fighting with her. We've always respected her work and we simply wanted to see the details. How could you not want to see them? So we invited Sidney Powell on the show. We would have given her the whole hour. We would have given her the entire week, actually, and listened quietly the whole time at rapt attention.

But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of polite requests. When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her. When we checked with others around the Trump campaign, people in positions of authority, they also told us Powell had never given them any evidence to prove anything she claimed at the press conference.



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Whoa. Did Tucker Carlson really say that? Did he really?

If so, some bombshell!

Some lie, rather!

I must confess, when I watched it, I fearfully thought maybe she did have something.

But if that's it, if Carlson really said that,
LOL LOL LOL LOL

Anonymous said...

US Diesel Price (on-road)
Jan 20, 2017. $2.90

Current 2.13

anonymous said...

Us still imports 8 million barrels a day.....trump said we were energy independent......BWAAAAAAAAAAA

Tucker Carlson said...

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-election-fraud

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Regarding 4:18 and 4:22
I just looked it up, and yes, he did say all that.

One fizzle of a bombshell!

To Tucker's credit, all he wanted was a little thing called "evidence," and she didn't/couldn't supply it.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Anonymous said...

Good news as Biden shutdown 11% of our Cracking, we will see prices rise.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump’s lawyers have not yet presented most of the evidence supporting the electronic claims that they must rely on to have any hope of reversing the outcome of the election. So we can only reserve judgment for now. It is hard to understand what motive lawyers like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood might have to make explosive claims that they cannot prove, which would be career-destroying. But how strong their evidence will ultimately be, we don’t yet know. I hope their claims turn out to be well-founded and provable

The conservative wall is crumbling.



https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-are-doing.php

Anonymous said...

"In November 2019, the United States became a net exporter of all oil products, including both refined petroleum products and crude oil.
Wikipedia › wiki › United_States_e...
United States energy independence - Wikipedia"

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I just watched the video at the link provided at 4:39 above. Tucker Carlson did ultimately come down hard on Sydney Powell, which she well deserves. She made fabulous charges while providing no evidence. She could not provide such evidence even to Carlson, who would have been more than happy to receive it.

anonymous said...

That factoid asshole was for a total of 1 month!!!!!!!!!! BEAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! We currently import 8 million barrels a day Sorry sport a single month does not mean shit......LOLOLOLOLO

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

U R Wrong Denise.

Enjoy,

anonymous said...

For the dumb goat fucker of kansas......

In November 2019, the United States exported 772,000 barrels per day (b/d) more petroleum (crude oil and petroleum products) than it imported, marking the third consecutive month in which the United States was a net petroleum exporter. Although the United States is a net petroleum exporter as a whole, most regions other than the U.S. Gulf Coast region remain net petroleum importers.
Net petroleum trade is calculated as the total imports of crude oil and petroleum products minus the total exports of crude oil and petroleum products. In September 2019, the United States became a net petroleum exporter for the first time since monthly records began in 1973.
The United States is a net importer of crude oil. In November 2019, the latest monthly data, it imported 5.8 million b/d of crude oil and exported 3.0 million b/d of crude oil. The United States is a net exporter of petroleum products (such as distillate fuel, motor gasoline, and jet fuel). In November 2019, the United States exported 5.8 million b/d of petroleum products and imported 2.2 million b/d of petroleum products.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=42735

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Donald Trump Jr. has tested positive!

anonymous said...

And you are a dumb fuck !!!!!

etroleum includes more products than just crude oil. Petroleum includes refined petroleum products such as gasoline, diesel fuel, jet fuel, unfinished oils, and other liquids such as fuel ethanol, blending components for gasoline, and other refinery inputs. In 2018, the United States imported about 9.9 MMb/d of petroleum, which included 7.8 MMb/d of crude oil and 2.1 MMb/d of non crude petroleum liquids and refined petroleum products.

Crude oil accounts for the largest share of U.S. energy imports, and the United States remained a net importer of crude oil in 2019. However, in 2019, U.S. crude oil net imports were at the lowest level since the mid-1980s. The United States has always been a net exporter of coal, which reduces net total energy imports.

anonymous said...

Donald Jr is no a positive covid case!!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Donald Trump jr. has tested positive! COVID-45!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CNN reported

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He never wore a mask

Anonymous said...

Ok, you two seem very happy about it.

Sicko's

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He refused to wear masks.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I don't give a shit about it.

Anonymous said...

You care, very much Roger.

U r a sicko.

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Anonymous said...

🤣New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has won an Emmy “in recognition of his leadership during the Covid-19 pandemic and his masterful use of television to inform and calm people around the world,” the International Academy Of Television Arts & Sciences announced Friday.🤣

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Michigan Lawmakers Not Persuaded by Trump
6:52 pm EST
Michigan’s top Republican lawmakers said Friday after a meeting with President Trump at the White House that they have not seen any information that would change President-Elect Joe Biden’s victory in the state, a blow to the president’s efforts to undermine the election results, the Washington Post reports.

In a statement, they vowed not to interfere with the certification process that is expected to be finalized on Monday.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Looks like Trump's last hope just went down in smoke.

Or does he have any other "tricks" up his sleeve?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I considered that Trump was not qualified to be the President, when he started his campaign by claiming that President Obama was born in Kenya, and implied that he is a Muslim.

Then the first of Trump's glaring racial remarks as President came in August 2017 after the killing of a woman in Charlottesville, Virginia, during protests begun by White supremacists. Klansmen and neo-Nazis, some carrying torches, demonstrated against the planned removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides," he said, later adding that there were "very fine people on both sides."

He said that Mexican immigrants were drug dealers and murderers. It was never about liberalism versus conservativism.

His isolationist philosophy should have triggered opposition from Republicans but Trumpism took control of the Republican party.

I hope that they break away, the country is at risk.

Part II later

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

THE GUILIANI/SYDNEY POWERS PRESS CONFERENCE THAT WENT DOWN IN FLAMES:

Fired cybersecurity official Chris Krebs tweeted:
That press conference was the most dangerous 1hr 45 minutes of television in American history. And possibly the craziest. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you’re lucky.
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Actually, it wasn't. It was so bizarre that nobody's buying it. It's way too easy to discredit.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Tucker Carlson WANTED Sydney Powers to provide real evidence for her amazing allegations, for if she would, the election could be overturned.

She kept promising she would, but didn't. She didn't because she couldn't. That's why Tucker got so out of sorts with her. She was, he seems to have realized, the very last hope that the outcome of the election could be reversed.

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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Twitter Will Give @POTUS to Biden When He’s Sworn In
8:16 pm EST
The presidential @POTUS Twitter handle will automatically transfer to President-elect Joe Biden the moment he’s sworn in at noon on Inauguration Day — whether or not President Trump has conceded, Politico reports.


Georgia Governor Certifies Biden as Winner
8:13 pm
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) certified results showing Joe Biden won the presidential race over Donald Trump, “bringing the state one step closer to wrapping up an election fraught with unfounded accusations of fraud by Trump and his supporters,” the AP reports.


Biden Has Picked His Secretary of State
7:47 pm
President-elect Joe Biden has made his choice for secretary of state, moving quickly to assemble a Senate-confirmable Cabinet even as President Trump refuses to concede the election, Axios reports.

Biden is expected to roll out several top Cabinet picks next week.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The Real Coronavirus Death Toll
8:23 pm EST
New York Times: “Deaths nationwide were 18 percent higher than normal from March 15 to Nov. 7. Altogether, the analysis shows that 326,000 more people than normal have died in the United States during that period, a number that may be an undercount since recent death statistics are still being updated.”

Anonymous said...

10,11,12

Anonymous said...

Poor Angry Joe.

"

Bo Erickson CBS

@BoKnowsNews

Asked Biden if he will encourage teacher unions to cooperate to get kids back in school because the COVID task force said it is safe to be in the classroom. He didn't answer.
“Why are you the only guy that always shouts out questions?” Biden said"

Never did provide an answer, He got so mad at being "questioned"

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Masking doesn't work according to CH°

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (KELO) — The Sturgis Rally, an annual motorcycle rally in the Black Hills, was a coronavirus spreader and study of cases in Minnesota shows, a newly released report by the Centers for Disease Control says.

“Eighty-six Minnesota COVID-19 cases were associated with the South Dakota motorcycle rally; approximately one third of counties in Minnesota reported at least one case epidemiologically linked to this event,” said the study called COVID-19 Outbreak Associated with a 10-Day Motorcycle Rally in a Neighboring State — Minnesota, August–September 2020.

Cases were identified in people who worked at the rally and attended the rally and then, spread COVID-19 to others.



The numbers linked to the Sturgis Rally may seem small compared to the 461,000 attendees and the number of COVID-19 cases in Minnesota 249,906 as of Nov. 20, but the findings show how one large event can spread the virus, according to the CDC.

Genome sequencing identified links between rally attendees and rally workers and others. Genome sequencing is used to identify the virus genetic characteristics and its transmission.  Six genetically similar clusters For example, a rally worker at a restaurant and two other people who got the coronavirus in the cluster visited that restaurant.

“These findings support current recommendations for mask use, physical distancing, reducing the number of attendees at gatherings, isolation for patients with COVID-19, and quarantine for close contacts to slow the spread of SARS-CoV-2 (1),” the report said.

This CDC report is not the first on the link between COVID-19 transmission and the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. A September report from IZA Institute of Labor Economics linked 266,796 COVID-19 cases to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. South Dakota health officials said the report’s numbers were not matching data collected by the state and Gov. Kristi Noem called it “grossly misleading” in a statement released by her office. Noem is going to run for president

Forty-one of the 86 COVID-19 individuals had an average of 2.5 close contacts while they were infected. Seventeen of 48 interviewed COVID-19 individuals said they had a close contact at work

Attendees with COVID-19 spread it to household members and to the work place. Secondary transmission was traced to two workplace outbreaks one wedding outbreak and one funeral outbreak, according to the CDC.

Sixteen of the 48 individuals interviewed by health officials reported working while infectious including five who worked at the rally and four who worked in health care after returning from the rally.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.keloland.com/keloland-com-original/cdc-says-new-study-shows-how-sturgis-rally-triggered-spread-of-covid-19/amp/

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump’s Indifference Amounts to Negligent Homicide
10:00 pm
James Fallows: “More than a year ago, I argued in these pages that if Donald Trump held virtually any other position of responsibility in modern society, he would already have been removed from that role… If any of them had demonstrated the impulsiveness, the irrationality, the vindictiveness, the ceaseless need for glorification that all distinguish Trump, responsible authorities would long ago have suspended them. The stakes—in lives, legal exposure, dollars and cents, war and peace—would be too great to do otherwise.

“At the time of that comparison, the main case against Trump involved his temperamental, intellectual, and moral unfitness for the job. But since then we’ve moved into the realm of manslaughter. Yesterday nearly 2,000 Americans died of COVID-19. By Thanksgiving Day, another 10,000 to 15,000 will have perished. By year’s end, who knows? And meanwhile the person in charge of guiding the national response does nothing.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Asked Biden if he will encourage teacher unions to cooperate to get kids back in school because the COVID task force said it is safe to be in the classroom. He didn't answer.
“Why are you the only guy that always shouts out questions?” Biden said.

Never did provide an answer, He got so mad at being "questioned."

_________

Typical BS.

Go look at the video. The press conference was over. Reporters were being told that, and were being asked to leave the room, and this one voice kept right on asking a question.

The President Elect laughingly, not angrily, asked, “Why are you the only guy that always shouts out questions?”

Yes, he was chuckling, mildly amused at that one reporter's persistent effrontery. :-)

We love Uncle Joe.

Anonymous said...

Socialism is on the March.

"JUSTICE’ BILL WOULD TRANSFER UP TO 32 MILLION ACRES TO BLACK FARMERS".

Those acres come from whom?

Anonymous said...

OlddriedupLeaf.

"Bullshit"

My Priest never uses words like Angry OlddriedupLeaf.

Anonymous said...

UPDATE
The transfer of 32 million acres to only blacks , that may or may not farm/ranch has expanded to 100 million acres.
Who will be forced of their lands for this land grab.

Sen. Cory Booker knows, right?