Best guesses at this point: no end to this thing till sometime in January at best?
This guy has been on top of the NY-22 race, like nobody else out there. If he believes this will still be going on in January, then I will take his word for it. The only other option is if the House of Representatives decides to just seat Brindisi without waiting for the end of this thing. But that would piss off a lot of people (including the Judge no doubt) who have tons of time, effort, blood, sweat, and tears invested in this.
Either way, there is no reason in 2020 for us to be over a month after an election and not even have a first real count. Especially considering that a vast majority of races are counted and done the same day as the election. How is it that 90% of the States never have these sorts of issues, but that the same state have the same issues over and over and over again?
Btw.... not to be too much of a naysayer here, but the first order that the Judge gave (to recanvas everything again) took well over a week and not a single county provided any updates to their original counts or more ballots to their original challenges. Seemed like a complete waste of time, especially considering the strong possibility that there will be "another" recount ordered at some point in all of this (as no official recount has been done). That would mean that they would recanvas and possibly hand count the same ballots for the third or fourth time.
I have stated it before and I will state it again. The next election reform must include some standards and conformities for how the ballots are handled "after" the election. It doesn't do anyone a bit of good to concentrate on getting the vote out or what-not, if you cannot trust that the ballots will be properly counted at the end of the day.
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Tracking the Electoral College Vote
9:32 am EST
CNN is tracking the Electoral College vote as it comes in today.
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As it stands right now, Vermont has voted:
Biden 3 Harris 3
You can continue tracking at politicalwire.com.
Massive voter fraud and govmt incompetence!!!!!!! Sad you also think trump won!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!!
File the following under
AN EXTREME CASE OF COGNITIVE DISSONANCE:
Stephen Miller Says Election Isn’t Decided Today
9:11 am
White House adviser Stephen Miller told Fox & Friends that today’s meeting of the Electoral College is a mere formality and that Congress will ultimately declare Donald Trump the winner of the presidential election.
Said Miller: “There’s plenty of time left.”
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Plenty of time left? That's true. Trump can lie the rest of his life.
NY-22 is Coleman/Franken redux..
either way, put it in the win column for the D's. the judge in this case is a flaming liberal, and either he calls it or it goes to the house and Peloshee calls it.
Democrats got their fucking clocks cleaned in the house races. this one's close enough to steal.
fucking human garbage:
OAKLAND COUNTY, Mich. – Michigan State Police have arrested a recently celebrated Democratic Party official on several felony charges related to voter discrepancies.
The Michigan official who earlier this year received an award from the state’s Democratic Party is now facing six felony charges for reportedly forging records and falsely marking absentee ballots as invalid during the 2018 election, reported The Detroit News.
Sherikia Hawkins, 38, city clerk for the city of Southfield, was arrested Monday after the Oakland County Clerk’s office noticed discrepancies in voter counts while certifying absentee ballots from Southfield. State police investigated and found that records had been altered so that nearly 200 voter files were improperly listed as invalid.
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Hawkins’ arrest comes just months after she was honored May 18 at the Michigan Democratic Party’s Legacy Dinner, where she received the Dingell/Levin Award. In 2017, she was listed among the “40 under 40” by the Michigan Chronicle, according to a government bio from her previous role as Pontiac city clerk.
At the time, Hawkins made history as the first African-American elected as Southfield city clerk, according the city’s website.
She also had administered 16 elections in Oakland County and holds a master municipal clerk designation from the International Institute of Municipal Clerks.
“Sherikia takes pride in using unconventional methods to engage the community in voting,” the website says.
Her term is set to expire in 2021.
Hawkins was charged with falsifying records in violation of state election law, forgery of a public record, misconduct in office and three counts of using a computer to commit a crime. The top count carries a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison, Fox News reported. She was arraigned on Monday and released on $15,000 bond, according to a state press release. Hawkins has a probable cause conference set for Sept. 30, and another hearing scheduled for Oct. 15.
Despite what looks like a ton of evidence pointing toward Hawkins, her attorneys said that it was just a technicality, WXYZ reported.
Attorney David Jones said that Hawkins has overseen problem-free elections in the past and had no motive to change absentee ballots.
“In fact Jocelyn Benson and Dana Nessel’s own press conference indicates that there was no voter disenfranchisement,” Jones pointed out. “So while there may have been some technical issues with regard to the voter list or the results, no voter was disenfranchised. Every vote was counted. I think this is a matter of something, technicality over substance, and I think she is going to be vindicated.”
The AG’s Public Integrity Unit will prosecute the case.
https://www.lawofficer.com/michigan-state-police-arrest-democratic-official-six-felony-charges-election-fraud/
https://www.lawofficer.com/michigan-state
Overwhelming proof of a huge nothing burger!!!!!!!! I am sure if this had gotten to the SCOTUS they would have done nothing different!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Yesterday. First time, record number of 4,000 deaths from the virus...mostly black and Latiños....my heart breaks!!!
Plenty of time left? That's true. Trump can lie the rest of his life.
AND HE WILL ALWAYS HAVE HIS PURBLIND BELIEVERS:
Nearly Half of Trump Backers See Election Overturned
8:21 am
Despite there being no viable legal pathway for President Trump to overturn the election results, a new Morning Consult poll finds that 45% of voters who “strongly approve” of the president’s job performance also believe the election results will be overturned, including 29% who say that outcome is “very likely.”
And despite no evidence of widespread fraud emerging, just 29% of Republican voters say the election was free and fair.
Why Haven’t Trump’s Judges Saved Him?
9:03 am
Paul Campos: “The formalist answer would be that all these lawsuits were just an enormous pile of crap in terms of even the most basic legal rules, and that calling balls and strikes is easy when the pitcher throws the ball straight into the ground rather than tossing it at least somewhere in the general vicinity of the plate."
ha ha ha ha
“The realist answer is that at least some of these various state and federal judges who as a political matter very much wanted Trump to win the election still realized that these lawsuits were so preposterous on formal grounds that giving Trump any sort of even partial rhetorical victory (‘this litigation raises serious questions about the procedures used’ blah blah blah) would do far more damage to the institutional capital of the courts than it would help the long term goals of the American right wing.”
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Jonathan Bernstein: “What I find interesting is that if this is correct — that these judges are acting to advance their political goals — the key is that their political program remains the substantive legal agenda they’ve had for some time. In this respect, Republican judges differ from many Republican legislators, who have increasingly become indifferent to public policy at all.”
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IN OTHER WORDS, the judges are unwilling to be seen in history as allowing Trump to use them in falsely seeking to advance his form of Republican fascism.
Lawmaker Claims ‘Hail Mary’ Effort to Help Trump
10:57 am
Michigan state Rep. Gary Eisen (R) told WPHM that there’s some kind of “Hail Mary” effort underway regarding today’s elector ceremony at the state capitol.
Said Eisen: “It’ll be all over the news later.”
When asked he could assure listeners that no one would get hurt, Eisen replied: “No. I don’t know. Because what we’re doing today is uncharted.”
Overwhelming proof of a huge nothing burger!!!!!!!! I am sure if this had gotten to the SCOTUS they would have done nothing different!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Had you bothered to read (or if you could comprehend anything marginally complicated) you would have seen that the person in question committed the crime in 2018.
So... the fact that the USSC would not have overturned the 2020 election over this is exactly the sort of argument we have come to expect from the three stooges of liberalism...
The three of you make liberalism proud with such intelligence arguments!
Election Tech Company Seeks Retractions for False Stories
10:17 am
Election technology company Smartmatic announced that it is “issuing legal notices and retraction demand letters to Fox News, Newsmax and One America News Network for publishing false and defamatory statements.”
Trump Delays Plan to Vaccinate White House Staff
9:37 am
“President Trump said on Sunday night that he would delay a plan for senior White House staff members to receive the coronavirus vaccine in the coming days,” the New York Times reports.
“The shift came just hours after The New York Times reported that the administration was rapidly planning to distribute the vaccine to its staff at a time when the first doses are generally being reserved for high-risk health care workers.”
Early Voting Kicks Off for Georgia Runoffs
8:14 am
“All eyes are on Georgia as the state begins early voting on Monday for two Senate runoff elections that will determine control of the US Senate,” CNN reports.
“But there will be fewer early voting sites available in some parts of the state than there were for the November general elections, which has upset voting rights and advocacy groups in the state who say the changes will lead to longer lines, longer wait times and more barriers — especially for voters of color.”
Inside the ‘Nasty’ Feud Between Trump and Brian Kemp
8:08 am
Washington Post: “The strain between the two Republicans has now boiled over into a full-blown feud in the aftermath of Trump’s 2020 electoral defeat, as the president has fixated on his loss in Georgia as a humiliation that he blames in large part on Kemp. Trump lost the solidly Republican state by approximately 12,000 votes and is furious with Kemp for not heeding his calls to question the integrity of the state’s election results.
“In phone calls and conversations with allies and advisers, Trump has griped that Kemp was not pushing Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to do more to reverse President-elect Joe Biden’s victory; that Kemp was not defending the president on television; and, perhaps most indefensible in Trump’s mind, that Kemp moved forward with certifying the results of the election.”
Wall Street Journal Tells Trump to Concede
7:56 am
The Wall Street Journal called on President Trump to concede the election in an editorial.
However, the editorial acknowledged that Trump “rarely takes our advice,” while adding that “bitterness as a political strategy rarely wears well.”
The editorial went on to predict that Trump’s refusal to concede could lead to Republican losses in the Jan. 5 Georgia Senate Runoffs and even violence.
Trump Using Possible 2024 Bid Mostly to Gain Attention
Politico:
“The president has spent days calling a dozen or more allies to ask what they think he needs to do over the next two years to ‘stay part of the conversation,’ according to two people, including one who spoke to the president. And while Trump has told allies he plans to run for president again, he has also indicated he could back out in two years if he determines he’ll have a tough time winning, said three people familiar with the discussions.
“Essentially, at this point, Trump appears just as interested in people talking about a Trump 2024 campaign as he is in actually launching a real campaign, even if he may ultimately turn his flirtation into a serious bid, according to interviews with 11 Republicans who worked for Trump or helped in his two races.”
Michigan Closes Capitol Over Safety Concerns
7:46 am
Citing “safety and security concerns,” the Michigan House and Senate will close their offices in downtown Lansing on Monday as presidential electors meet in the state Capitol, the Detroit News reports.
MEANWHILE
Electors Meet to Formally Choose Biden as President
6:46 am
“Presidential electors are meeting across the United States to formally choose Joe Biden as the nation’s next president,” the AP reports.
“Monday is the day set by law for the meeting of the Electoral College. In reality, electors meet in all 50 states and the District of Columbia to cast their ballots. The results will be sent to Washington and tallied in a Jan. 6 joint session of Congress over which Vice President Mike Pence will preside.”
d you bothered to read
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! I don't read the trash that dumb fuck posts let alone inspect the dates!!!!! I am sure you being the self declared genius you are, that your conclusion is just as stupid as rats post!!!!! Nice try sport, now speaking for the court!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOL
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! I don't read the trash that dumb fuck posts let alone inspect the dates!!!!
Yet you’ll make some stupid irrelevant comment, just the same
I don't read the trash that dumb fuck posts let alone inspect the dates!!!!!
Then why do you make comments on them?
Idiot!
Scott, no one is arguing that this or any election is absolutely perfect with absolutely no anomalies whether "statistical" or otherwise.
But the courts have firmly rejected the charge that any such anomalies, "statistical" or not, are significant enough to overthrow the votes of a single state, much less the election.
Read that over fifty times. Maybe it will sink in.
EARLIER TODAY
Michigan Closes Capitol Over Safety Concerns
7:46 am
Citing “safety and security concerns,” the Michigan House and Senate will close their offices in downtown Lansing on Monday as presidential electors meet in the state Capitol, the Detroit News reports.
Lawmaker Claims ‘Hail Mary’ Effort to Help Trump
10:57 am
Michigan state Rep. Gary Eisen (R) told WPHM that there’s some kind of “Hail Mary” effort underway regarding today’s elector ceremony at the state capitol.
Said Eisen: “It’ll be all over the news later.”
When asked he could assure listeners that no one would get hurt, Eisen replied: “No. I don’t know. Because what we’re doing today is uncharted.”
MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO PARADE OUT THE STATISTICAL ANOMALIES AND OVERTHROW THE ELECTION ON THE SPOT?
But the courts have firmly rejected the charge that any such anomalies, "statistical" or not, are significant enough to overthrow the votes of a single state, much less the election.
You don't understand the difference between a statistical anomaly and voter fraud. They are not the same thing and cannot be used "interchangeably" as you seem to want to do.
Read that 500 times and let it sink in...
The weakest People within the USA.
The Covid "mostly black and Latiños.."
Dying from it.
Everything adversely affects them.
CHT, showing compassion.
"You don't understand"
The Three Socialist Effeminate of CHT rarely understand, math, statistics, economics and personal finance.
They excel at fainting, breathlessness and emotional stability of a teen girl that has just been dumped.
Roger doesn't know sports.
Said the Miami Dolphins "killed" the Reneging NFL Championships Kansas City Chiefs .
Chiefs scored 28 unanswered points and won.
Roger said "Holmes" is the quarterback.
Nope.
What a limp twisted fairy boi Roger is.
Two wives have dumped him for non-performance as a hubby.
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