Tuesday, December 1, 2020

Over in California 25

Smith concedes, even as CNN, NYT, Politico and other media outlets haven't

Rep. Mike Garcia, R-Saugus, has won a fresh term in Congress as the representative of northern Los Angeles County’s 25th Congressional District after a turbulent campaign that ended in a neck-and-neck race. Challenger Christy Smith conceded the election on Monday, Nov. 30.

After Iowa 02 was certified for Miller-Meeks, there only remains one seat still in play and that would be NY-22 (which is still being wrangled in court). 

Many outlets refuse to "call" the certified race in Iowa, because there is a feeling that Rita Hart (D) will challenge the results in court. Some also point to the fact that as a final plea, Hart could ask the House not to seek Miller-Meeks, and in effect have the Democratic controlled House overturn the certified election results. Of course none of that would actually change the fact that Miller-Meeks is the certified winner. 

But apparently that same level of deference is not available at the Presidential level as any and all legal challenges are reported as debunked or unsupported before they are even brought. In the Presidential race some outlets called Arizona (0.3%) on election night with hundreds of thousands of ballots outstanding, but are refusing still today to call races that have been certified and conceded where the Republicans won. The fact that open challenges are still pending (and new lawsuits are being filed almost daily) doesn't phase the media nearly as much as the possibility that Congressional races might be reversed in court.

In the NY-22 race, the "final" vote totals still show the Republican Tenney leading the Democrat Brindisi by 12-13 votes depending on the source. Apparently three of the counties showed small adjustments to their previous numbers, but it all evened out in the end. 

The judge in this case will be reviewing ballots over the next few days, many of which are broad philosophical challenges that involve multiple ballots. This really comes down to whether or not the NYSSC Justice in this case will be willing to overrule the election boards, which appear (by all accounts) to have played it straight by the books. All it would take is the Judge allowing certain technically illegal ballots to be counted, for Brindisi to overtake Tenney, which of course would prompt an appeal (likely straight to the USSC). 

110 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You really believe that the Supreme Court would overturn the election, you have lost your mind Scott.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Over 12 votes

Anonymous said...



blue wave tsunami?

anyone?

LOL.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump keeps saying that Biden didn't get 80,000,000 votes
Despite the Republicans in the swing states said he did!

He's desperate and so is Scott asshole

Anonymous said...



you can't make this up:

"Imagine if, going forward, every single election is treated this way at every level. Imagine if Democrats start acting this way.”

Skeets Hussein 0linsky.

LOL.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1333724197227536384


my God, the dumb fuck is so in love with the sound of his own voice, yet he can't comprehend a word of it.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Why don't you talk about this shit?


Rudy Giuliani has talked to President Donald Trump about the possibility of receiving a preemptive pardon before Trump leaves office in January, The New York Times reported.Giuliani, who is Trump's personal defense lawyer, discussed the president the pardon as recently as last week, but it wasn't the first conversation they had about it, per The Times.The former New York mayor is currently the focus of a federal criminal investigation into whether he violated foreign lobbying laws through his dealings in Ukraine and with his involvement in the abrupt firing of Marie Yovanovitch, the US's former ambassador to Ukraine.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Why don't you talk about this shit?


well duh. because the NY Times reported it, dumbass.

LOL.

only clowns like you still believe them.



Anonymous said...




btw alky, but how many times are you going to let maggie and her merry band of asshats at the NY Times make you look foolish before you start verifying their shit?


C.H. Truth said...

You really believe that the Supreme Court would overturn the election, you have lost your mind Scott.

Gee Roger... since I have never once stated (or even remotely argued) that the Supreme Court would overturn the election, I guess that makes "you" the one who is out of your fucking mind!

You live in your own little fantasy world, Roger.
Why is it sooo hard for you to join the rest of us in reality?

C.H. Truth said...

maggie haberman

Who better to have the inside track on what President Trump and Rudy Giuliani talk about in private. Because we all know how much both of them trust the NYT and their sources with their secrets.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott you live in an alternate reality universe. You said All it would take is the Judge allowing certain technically illegal ballots to be counted, for Brindisi to overtake Tenney, which of course would prompt an appeal (likely straight to the USSC). 

If the Trump lawyers argued that the allegedly technically illegal ballots were not counted, the results of the popular vote could be overturned.

Even the conservative majority would not overturn the election, but you wish they would, because you lost your mind 5 years ago.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You keep trying to take one event to expand it to a massive conspiracy that even the DOJ and FBI aren't investigating the President's demands to undercover the fraud. I wouldn't be surprised if he fired Wray and Barr.


And pardon his family and himself on January 19th.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If their case was written to expand their arguments to include fraud in all the swing states!

Anonymous said...


You said All it would take is the Judge allowing certain technically illegal ballots to be counted, for Brindisi to overtake Tenney, which of course would prompt an appeal (likely straight to the USSC).

that's because that scenario that he describes is highly plausible.

the presiding judge is a reliable liberal democrat from syracuse. liberals in upstate NY congregate in the population centers of Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and the Capital District (Albany Schenectady, Troy) like flies congregate on a pile of shit.

NY-22 sits in between Syracuse and Albany, and is ripe for corruption this time around as it has been for fucking decades.

the difference between NY-21 (Stefanik's district) and NY-22 is poverty. NY-22 has a ton of it and it's getting worse, now that the left has succeeded in putting Remington Arms out of fucking business.

Anonymous said...



well alky, what's really at question are the Trump margins of ‘defeat’ in 4 states occurred in 4 data dumps between 1:34 - 6:31 AM.

counting stopped much earlier in the evening in all 4 states, then mysteriously began again.

couple that with oddities like 900 military ballots in a single GA precinct ALL going to Slow Joe...

this is why there are 73 MILLION+ Americans like me who will go to their grave absolutely convinced that this election was stolen in plain site. and all the drive by media has to do is refuse to cover the story between now and 01/20/21 and we all just ... move on.

i was born at night but not last night.


C.H. Truth said...

All it would take is the Judge allowing certain technically illegal ballots to be counted, for Brindisi to overtake Tenney, which of course would prompt an appeal (likely straight to the USSC).


And... that is 100% in regards to an election challenge in NY-22 that is being overseen by a NY Supreme Court Justice. I am simply stating two facts.

1) that this judge will decide the election and it could be that he allows votes ruled ineligible to be counted. I have no idea how likely that is.

2) that if that judge does rule to include ballots that are "technically" not legal, that it will likely be appealed to the USSC.



What does that have to do with the USSC "overturning" the election (which I assume you mean the Presidential election)?

Technically NY-22 will be certified to the Republican this week even as the legal challenges go on. The only judge who can "overturn" that would be the NYSSC Justice in charge of the election legal contest.

At best the USSC could technically rule the other way (if it came to that) and rule that the Judge was wrong and put the race "back" to who was certified the winner.

They could only overturn another judge who is the one who technically overturned the certified election results.



Are you just not able to keep up with any of this?

anonymous said...

n 4 states occurred in 4 data dumps between 1:34 - 6:31 AM.



BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! There is no question of the counts you dumb fucking idiot....The dumps in question were just that....dumps....that added to the total of biden wins and with all battleground states now certified....just another rabbit hole that idiots like you and Lil Schitty can go down!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA There are 73 million idiot americans who listened to trump like many did when he was pushing birtherism!!!!!! Move on....trump lost by a landslide.....why don't you join Scott Atlas and go away!!!!!!

anonymous said...

Dayum....the US has more COVID cases a day than Japan has had for the whole pandemic!!!!! I guess that's what happens when the populace follows directions from true leaders than idiots like the GOP of Trump!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Said DiGenova: “Anybody who thinks the election went well, like that idiot Krebs who used to be the head of cybersecurity for Trump. That guy is a class A moron. He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot by rrb.”

Anonymous said...


Are you just not able to keep up with any of this?


i know a ton of people who suffer from TDS, but none as consumed by it and blinded by it as the alky.


C.H. Truth said...

Glad to know that Denny sees Trump as a true leader who the American public follows! Certainly the Reverend and the rest of Illinois follows him seeing how poor they are doing!

How will Denny and Roger survive without Trump to tell them what to do!

I promise you... nobody but morons will follow Biden.

Anonymous said...



well alky, krebs was looking all over the globe for INTERNATIONAL election interference, found none and declared it secure. that was the sum total of his appearance of his '60 minutes' interview which i watched on sunday night.

so he IS a class A moron.

i won't go so far as to say he was directly complicit in the theft, but i would not be at all surprised to learn he looked the other way.

Anonymous said...



Dayum....the US has more COVID cases a day than Japan has had for the whole pandemic!!!!!


and japan has more deaths from suicide than from covid.

lockdowns work!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/11/30/joe_digenova_chris_krebs_a_class_a_moron_should_be_taken_out_at_dawn_and_shot.html

It's not fake news

Anonymous said...


never said it was, alky.

krebs IS a moron.

i'd put him at the end of the line of those i'd like to see shot though.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

His comments come despite President Donald Trump's repeated claims that the election was stolen, and his refusal to concede his loss to President-Elect Joe Biden.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election.



rrb would shoot him

C.H. Truth said...

Well Roger...

It's nearly impossible for enough fraud to be uncovered by the FBI at this point to "overturn" or "change the outcome" of the election.

Of course, Barr is smart enough to know that "changing the outcome of the election" is not his job. His job will be to prosecute anyone guilty of any fraud (whether or not that fraud "changed" anything).


Again, Roger... it's like talking to a brick.


You seem to lack the common intelligence required to separate whether or not there was fraud (there was 100% fraud), whether that fraud was responsible for changing the election (we will never actually know), and whether enough fraud can be uncovered before safe harbor dates to change the election (there will not be enough fraud found to change the outcome).


The simple fact Barr expressed is neither surprising or probably what Barr cares about. It is also likely a cherry picked response to a specific question that was designed to "gas-light" you into believing that Barr doesn't believe there was "any fraud".

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

A VOICE SPEAKS SANITY TO THE INSANITY HERE:

Barr Sees No Evidence of Widespread Voting Fraud
2:26 pm EST
Attorney General William Barr told the Associated Press that the Justice Department hasn’t uncovered widespread voting fraud that could have changed 2020 election outcome.

“The comments are especially direct coming from Barr, who has been one of the president’s most ardent allies. Before the election, he had repeatedly raised the notion that mail-in voter fraud could be especially vulnerable to fraud during the coronavirus pandemic as Americans feared going to polls and instead chose to vote by mail.”

BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. THE PRESIDENT ELECT AND VICE PRESIDENT ELECT ARE JUST THAT.

Anonymous said...

Again, Roger... it's like talking to a brick.


You seem to lack the common intelligence required to separate whether or not there was fraud (there was 100% fraud), whether that fraud was responsible for changing the election (we will never actually know), and whether enough fraud can be uncovered before safe harbor dates to change the election (there will not be enough fraud found to change the outcome).



in other words alky -

REJOICE! you scumbags got away with it.

what you can expect is for team Slow Joe to be ruthlessly and endlessly fucked with every single minute of his "administration."

after all, you guys set the rules. we're just going to follow them.

and relax. no one on my team ever expects you guys to be honest enough to own up to what you did.

liberals are not capable of honesty on any topic on any level. ever.

we know this.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This puts an end to the President's attempt to overturn the election. I have never felt respect for William Barr, but he is following his oath to Protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.


“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. They are not systemic allegations and. And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on."

There is no credible evidence of computer hacking, or mail ballots forgery.


Anonymous said...


BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

yes it did. it definitely did. it most certainly did. Barr simply sees the bigger picture and isn't willing to go after something that cannot be resolved between now and installation day.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d


William Barr

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Barr was not a never Trumper. Your allegations against him are totally false.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ch'S bs in normal print.
James' comments in bold.

You seem to lack the common intelligence required to separate whether or not there was fraud (there was 100% fraud),NO one would say that

whether that fraud was responsible for changing the election (we will never actually know), Of course we will; we already do, and Barr says so.

and whether enough fraud can be uncovered before safe harbor dates to change the election (there will not be enough fraud found to change the outcome) No, Barr is actually saying there is no evidence that such could be found no matter how much time we might have.

The simple fact Barr expressed is neither surprising or probably what Barr cares about.Typical Ch BS. It is also likely a cherry picked response to a specific question that was designed to "gas-light" you into believing that Barr doesn't believe there was "any fraud". No, it only says what it says, that although there is some fraud in every election, Barr sees no evidence of fraud so widespread that it could ever make a difference in the election no matter how much time might or mighty not remain
-- WHICH IS NOT WHAT Trump is saying and you can believe Trump IS NOT BE HAPPY WITH BARR'S SAYING THAT.

BUT WILL HE "FIRE" HIM?
NOT IF HE HAS THE LEAST REMAINING AMOUNT OF SENSE.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

*no matter how much time might or might not remain

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

IS NOT HAPPY AND WILL NOT BE HAPPY WITH BARR'S SAYING THAT.

C.H. Truth said...

You seem to lack the common intelligence required to separate whether or not there was fraud (there was 100% fraud),NO one would say that

Actually nobody would "not" say that.

Barr certainly suggests that there was fraud and that those cases have been "run down" or are being "run down". The fact that 100's of dead people voted is 100% evidence of fraud. The fact that people voted twice is 100% evidence of fraud. The fact that people have been charged (including a women who went into a nursing home with absentee blank ballots and left with 74 absentee ballots filled out and is being charged with 74 counts of felony fraud.) is evidence of fraud. They have uncovered multiple instances of multiple types of voter fraud and even evidence of tampering. We know that in some cases complete addresses and other information was entered by poll workers on mail in ballots to "cure" them (when this is technically not legal).

To not only argue... as you are Reverend, that there was no fraud. To demand that "nobody would say there was fraud" is patently ridiculous.


Could you possibly be a bigger tool?

Sorry... yeah, you could be. You could be Denny or Roger I guess.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Barr was not a never Trumper. Your allegations against him are totally false.


you moron.

my "allegation" as you call it is that Barr simply said "fuck it, we're done here."

just like with Durham. all the foot dragging in THAT case paid off and Barr realizes there's no way to resolve this in 50 fucking days.

Barr's a smart man and a pragmatist. and in les than 2 months he's back in private practice.

you're arguing a moot fucking point again alky.


now, what i hope is that those who are investigating this theft dig into it deeply, and announced their discoveries LOUDLY. i want to see nothing less than a ruthless harassment of Slow Joe an da Ho every fucking minute of every fucking day.

the precedent has been set and we will enjoy using it.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

ASSOCIATED PRESS:

Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome

By MICHAEL BALSAMO
52 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

His comments come despite President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that the election was stolen, and his refusal to concede his loss to President-Elect Joe Biden.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election.

“To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election,” Barr told the AP.

The comments are especially direct coming from Barr, who has been one of the president’s most ardent allies. Before the election, he had repeatedly raised the notion that mail-in voter fraud could be especially vulnerable to fraud during the coronavirus pandemic as Americans feared going to polls and instead chose to vote by mail.

Last month, Barr issued a directive to U.S. attorneys across the country allowing them to pursue any “substantial allegations” of voting irregularities, if they existed, before the 2020 presidential election was certified, despite no evidence at that time of widespread fraud. That memorandum gave prosecutors the ability to go around longstanding Justice Department policy that normally would prohibit such overt actions before the election was certified. Soon after it was issued, the department’s top elections crime official announced he would step aside from that position because of the memo.

The Trump campaign team led by Rudy Giuliani has been alleging a widespread conspiracy by Democrats to dump millions of illegal votes into the system with no evidence. They have filed multiple lawsuits in battleground states alleging that partisan poll watchers didn’t have a clear enough view at polling sites in some locations and therefore something illegal must have happened. The claims have been repeatedly dismissed including by Republican judges who have ruled the suits lacked evidence. Local Republicans in some battleground states have followed Trump in making similar unsupported claims.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump has railed against the election in tweets and in interviews though his own administration has said the 2020 election was the most secure ever. Trump recently allowed his administration to begin the transition over to Biden, but has still refused to admit he lost.

The issues Trump’s campaign and its allies have pointed to are typical in every election: Problems with signatures, secrecy envelopes and postal marks on mail-in ballots, as well as the potential for a small number of ballots miscast or lost.

But they’ve also requested federal probes into the claims. Attorney Sidney Powell has spun fictional tales of election systems flipping votes, German servers storing U.S. voting information and election software created in Venezuela “at the direction of Hugo Chavez,” – the late Venezuelan president who died in 2013. Powell has since been removed from the legal team after an interview she gave where she threatened to “blow up” Georgia with a “biblical” court filing.

Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.


He said people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said such a remedy for those complaints would be a top-down audit conducted by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department.

“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all, and if people don’t like something they want the Department of Justice to come in and ‘investigate,’” Barr said.

He said first of all there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. They are not systemic allegations and. And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”
________

IOW, THERE JUST AIN'T NO "THERE" THERE, DONALD!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

NO one would say there was 100% fraud.

Which is what your stupid comment implies with the parenthesis, Ch.

C.H. Truth said...

And let's be clear here Reverend...

Our country spent three years and five investigations going down the rabbit hole of Trump/Russia collusion to steal the 2016 election, only to find no evidence of any such thing. At best there was a half baked legal argument that Tweets and statements to the press were akin to "obstruction of justice" - but there was no collusion found, much less proven.

We "could" probably say that we know for sure that it didn't happen, but I bet there are still quite a few American liberals who will go to their grave convinced that 2016 was stolen by the Russians with the aid of Trump.


I promise you that there will "not" be five investigations, no "special counsel" will be ordered, in spite of real statistical evidence of anomalies so crazy that nobody has even feinted to explain them.

The Motus Operandi today is for the media to shut down any talk of anything, not discuss anything, demand that everything has already been "debunked" (just like the Hunter Biden case sitting with the FBI was "debunked" even though it wasn't).

But the truth and facts are that there is not enough time to really investigate these things, nor is there going to be any desire for a Biden administration to chase any of these things down after Barr leaves.

So yeah... Reverend. The undisputable fact is that we will "never know" for sure to what degree there were bigger issues. Why we had almost zero mail in ballots rejected (in comparison to all other elections). Why certain precincts went over 100% turnout, etc... etc...

There was a reason that at midnight CST election night that the betting odds were 90% for Trump and pretty much every election analyst in the country believed Biden had come up short. Those reasons didn't ever go away. As stated a million times... we have a bunch of people who are vigilantly uncurious about things like this. Always have been and always will be.

C.H. Truth said...

NO one would say there was 100% fraud.

Actually if we were uncertain for sure if there was fraud or not... we might say there was a 90% chance that there was fraud. But when dead people vote. When there is confirmed examples of people voting twice. When people have admitted to filling out absentee ballots for people who were clinically incapacitated. When people admit to "curing" illegal ballots in order to count them.

then the level of certainty regarding fraud.

goes to 100%


Do you disagree?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. They are not systemic allegations. And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”

NO "THERE" THERE.

RAGE ON, CH. AS TIME GOES ON, YOUR SELF PITYING VOICE WILL JUST APPEAR MORE AND MORE RIDICULOUS.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CH he said that there may be a few incidents, but not in sufficient numbers to change the outcome.

He also said that there was no foriegn intervention into the computer counting machines.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

There is no evidence of sufficient numbers to effect the outcome of the election.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

To use a few minor incidences to discredit our election system is putting party over country.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

FYI Barr is at the White House right now.

He might be fired

Anonymous said...

Trump Allies Ask Justices to Throw Out Pennsylvania Votes
3:31 pm
“President Trump’s allies said Tuesday they have asked the U.S. Supreme Court to block a decision by Pennsylvania’s highest court dismissing a challenge of the state’s mail-in voting system,” the Washington Post reports.

LOTS OF LUCK.


AND WHAT ABOUT THIS, CH?----.
Barr Appoints Special Counsel to Examine Russia Probe
3:28 pm

“Attorney General William Barr has given EXTRA PROTECTION to the prosecutor he appointed to investigate the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, giving him the authority of a special counsel to complete his work without being easily fired,” the AP reports.

“Barr said that he had appointed U.S. Attorney John Durham as a special counsel in October under the same federal statute that governed special counsel Robert Mueller in the original Russia probe.”
____________

AGAINST WHOM IS BARR PROTECTING DURHAM, CH? WHO WOULD WANT TO FIRE DURHAM IF THE INVESTIGATION DOES NOT TURN OUT THE WAY A CERTAIN SOMEONE WANTS IT TO? WHO WOULD THAT BE, CH? WHO MIGHT BE WANTING TO FIRE DURHAM? AGAINST WHOM IS BARR PROTECTING DURHAM, CH?

IS THIS ANOTHER CASE OF THERE BEING NO "THERE" THERE?
.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

That last post is from me. I hit anonymous somehow by mistake.

C.H. Truth said...

To use a few minor incidences to discredit our election system is putting party over country.

Let's be clear... the Justice department cannot (and should not) just go out willy-nilly investigating every possible "concept" of fraud. They would need actual probable cause along with the time and resources to conduct things. There is neither the time or the political will to do so.

We already destroyed all of that by spending three years investigating 2016 and calling Trump a fake President.

Unless you (and everyone on the left) wants to apologize for everything you ever said about Russia and Trump not being "your President" - the idea that people cannot question this election without creating some fundamental issues with our Democracy is the biggest load of crock we have seen in some time.


I stated from word one... and apparently neither you ore the Reverend ever pay attention... that it was going to be up to the Justice department and law enforcement to investigate and go after those players who broke the law, whether or not those instances of fraud did or did not alter anything.

I never ever, not even once, suggested that the Justice department would uncover anything large enough to overturn the election (which would require at least three states to change totals). It was not going to happen and it's not going to happen now.

So there is literally nothing shocking, game changing, about what Bill Barr is saying, nor does it prove anyone wrong (who believes there was more to all of this).

I am actually quite proud of the fact that they are running down people and charging them. This is a big turnaround from previous elections where once it was over, people just ignored whatever happened.

Anonymous said...



Blogger Roger Amick said...

There is no evidence of sufficient numbers to effect the outcome of the election.



so that makes it perfectly acceptable.

alky, san francisco has set the shoplifting limit at $900.00

individuals are running through walgreens' and cvs' out there just sweeping the shelves clean and running out the door.

so... will that repeated behavior shut down walgreens or cvs?

nope.

will it cause cvs and walgreens to close stores where that shit is happening?

probably.

why WOULD they keep them open?

that's what i love about you clowns. you find the rule of law to be flexible, fungible, no big deal if it inconveniences you...

so we go from:

“There is no evidence of election fraud!”

“There is no evidence of widespread election fraud!”

“There is no evidence that any fraud would have changed the results!”

so where the fuck does it end? and why do we get "No one is above the law!" when it comes to trump, to "Oh fuck it." when it comes to YOU assholes breaking the fucking law?

so i guess as a precaution to the 2024 elections, the GOP had better print up 100 MILLION "magic" ballots, just to be ready, eh?

all you guys know how to do is lie, cheat and steal.


Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

To use a few minor incidences to discredit our election system is putting party over country.


obeying the law is putting party over country.

now there's the dumbest and most dishonest thing i will read for the rest of the fucking YEAR.

and you wonder why i fucking despise liberals.

may you ALL burn in hell alky.





Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This story of the Russian investigation, which actually in regards to a photo call with the President of Ukraine.

The FBI didn't investigate Hunter Biden, because there was no credible evidence. Unless you think that the FBI has been trying to get the Orange Monster!!

The handful of invalid ballots were actually found, during the paper recounts. Nothing big enough to change the outcome of the election.

The midnight count release has zero evidence of fraud. Most of them came from the biggest cities in each state has that have huge minority voters, that voted for Biden.

You get that talking points from Redstate and Breitbart and Pjmedia. And tweets on the @realdonaldtrump page

and we have a bunch of people who are vigilantly uncurious about things like this. Always have been and always will be, because it is totally bullshit Scott!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott

“Attorney General William Barr has given EXTRA PROTECTION to the prosecutor he appointed to investigate the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, giving him the authority of a special counsel to complete his work without being easily fired,” the AP reports.

“Barr said that he had appointed U.S. Attorney John Durham as a special counsel in October under the same federal statute that governed special counsel Robert Mueller in the original Russia probe.”

C.H. Truth said...

The FBI didn't investigate Hunter Biden, because there was no credible evidence.

The FBI has an open investigation RIGHT NOW on Hunter Biden involving international money laundering. There is every reason to believe that Joe Biden is part of this investigation as well.

This information WAS CONFIRMED BY THE FBI about two or three weeks before the election, but it wasn't considered "important news" for anyone other than Newsmax and Fox to carry. CNN, MSNBC, and the rest of the networks froze it out.


So you are 100% factually incorrect.

But at least we know you are 100% able to be gaslighted by your media.

Anonymous said...



and just so I'm clear -

every fucking time i watched Nancy Peloshee declare on TV:

"No one is above the law!"

she was putting party before country.

alrighty then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJGk4ofc18

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He has protected the country from the impulsively dangerous lame duck President.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Newsmax and Fox and you were gaslighted, not me.

Anonymous said...


“Attorney General William Barr has given EXTRA PROTECTION to the prosecutor he appointed to investigate the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, giving him the authority of a special counsel to complete his work without being easily fired,” the AP reports.


LMAO.

that extra protection expires on 01/20/21, at the pleasure of the President.

Biden not only confessed to his corruption in Ukraine, he bragged about it like an asshole on tape to the Council on Foreign Relations.

"Well sonofabitch!"




Anonymous said...



btw, Barr's announcement about Durham is being widely mocked and ridiculed on twitter.

as it should be.

anonymous said...


Biden not only confessed to his corruption in Ukraine


BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!! And you not only sucked donnies dick...you took it up the ass!!!!!!!!!!

anonymous said...

There is every reason to believe that Joe Biden is part of this investigation as well.


There is every reason to believe you know shit Lil Schitty.....I sure hope Barr gets done before his AG is up!!!!!! I'm sure you would think a pardon by the new POTUS would be in order!!!!!!

Anonymous said...




Several whistleblowers on Tuesday cast new uncertainty on the 2020 election process, claiming up to 288,000 ballots disappeared, another 100,000 were improperly backdated, and mail promoting President Trump was junked while mail for Joe Biden was delivered.

In the most extraordinary report, a U.S. Postal Service contractor said his trailer full of 144,000-288,000 completed mail-in ballots, which he drove between New York and Pennsylvania, disappeared after he delivered it to a Lancaster, Pennsylvania, depot.

Another claimed that ballots were backdated by postal workers, and in Traverse City, Michigan, Trump campaign mail was put in bins labeled “Undeliverable Bulk Business Mail” while the same type of mail for Joe Biden was ordered to be delivered on time.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/whistleblowers-post-office-labeled-trump-mail-undeliverable-388-000-ballots-backdated-disappear

anonymous said...


I never ever, not even once, suggested that the Justice department would uncover anything large enough to overturn the election


BUT YOU SUPPORTED TRUMP IN HIS ATTEMPTS AND LIES ABOUT THE ELECTION!!~!!!!!! IOW's your support sure supposed your hope that the anomalies of vote drops were that proof and you did wonder how anyone could not see it!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Again Lil Schitty lies to make a point!!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Newsmax and Fox and you were gaslighted, not me.

What you mean is that the FBI gaslighted us into believing that they were investigating Hunter Biden, by telling us that they were investigating Hunter Biden (and had been for months).

But apparently the FBI doesn't know what the hell they are talking about.

Roger the feeble knows much more about what the FBI is doing than the FBI.

anonymous said...


Several whistleblowers on Tuesday cast new uncertainty on the 2020 election process



BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Sure they did!!!!! My dog ate the ballots.......LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

anonymous said...

apparently the FBI doesn't know what the hell they are talking about.


BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! That sure describes you Lil schitty..... trump lost and you dove in with him.....as for hunter.....a bigger nothing burger than you vote drop hoax!!!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The FBI doesn't know what the hell they are talking about? You really believe that they didn't investigate Hunter Biden because they didn't want to hurt his father Joe Biden?

It's much more likely that they knew that the evidence was not credible.

anonymous said...

Trump still suckering the 70 million who voted for him a small donation at a time that fuels his ego and a balm to the wounded animal!!!!! He is a side show barker working for PT Barnum side show of stupidity!!!!!! Lil Schitty still blinded by his fat ass!!!!!

Trump will soon leave office. The bad news is that he will never admit that he lost to Biden by more than 6 million votes, and neither will his millions of devoted followers. (A new poll finds that less than a third of Trump voters express confidence in the election results.) He will continue claiming until the day he dies that he is a victim of a vast conspiracy encompassing both Republican and Democratic officials — a plot so fiendishly effective that no evidence of its machinations can be found.
Given that Trump cares nothing about the public weal, why should he ever admit defeat? Keeping the long con going not only offers a salve for his wounded ego but also possible salvation for his debt-riddled balance sheet. (Forbes reports that he owes at least $1 billion.)

Trump’s political operation has raised more than $150 million since Election Day with fraudulent claims of fraud. The campaign wasted $3 million on a recount in Wisconsin that expanded Biden’s lead in that state by 87 votes. It might as well have used donors’ money to light Donald Trump Jr.’s cigars — and it still might. As my colleague Philip Bump notes, contributions to Trump’s political action committee, Save America PAC, can be used “to fund basically anything,” including “memberships at golf clubs,” “travel,” “rallies,” “even payments directly to Trump himself, as long as he declares it as income.”
Trump claims to be an expert on winning. His actual area of expertise is how to profit from losing. He survived the bankruptcy of six of his businesses, and he will survive the moral bankruptcy of his presidency. He has now figured out how to monetize assaults on our democracy. He will keep going at least until 2024, and then either regain the Republican nomination for himself or hand it off to a favored sycophant.

C.H. Truth said...

BUT YOU SUPPORTED TRUMP IN HIS ATTEMPTS

You supported the Russian collusion hoax for three years? I seem to vividly recall liberals coming up with schemes were everyone would be impeached and eventually put Nancy Pelosi in the White House.

I am pretty sure you never demanded any of that was stupid or uncalled for.

the anomalies of vote drops were that proof and you did wonder how anyone could not see it!!

The anomalies of the 23.5 to 1 vote drop and others like that are very real and do exist. What they are "proof" is that at some time in the middle of the night the state Michigan added 141,000 votes to Biden and 4,000 votes for Trump in one drop.

Counties that had that many ballots:

Genesee (54-45 Biden) 198K
Kent (52-46 Biden) 354K
Macomb (54-45 Trump) 497K
Oakland (56-42 Biden) 760K
Ottawa (60-39 trump) 165K
Washtenaw (72-26 Biden) 213K
Wayne (68-30 Biden) 861K

The biggest margin in in Washtenaw (about 3:1 for Biden) but not big enough to absorb that sort of drop. There are only four counties realistically large enough to absorb a drop of that size and two of them went to Trump, while the other two were not in the general vicinity of 23-1. Biden barely beat Trump in Oakland, and beat him by a little more than 2-1 in Wayne.


What is this proof of... again that sometime in the middle of the night 141 thousand votes went to Biden vs 4 thousand for Trump in one drop somewhere and there is nowhere that this sort of margin makes any sense (nor does anyone offer any explanation that makes sense).


The other thing that this statistical analyses proved was that nearly every drop that was considered an anomaly came from one of the battleground states. You didn't see these same anomalies in New York, or California or somewhere that Biden was actually beating the hell out of Trump. They didn't come from New York City or San Francisco or Seattle or any real liberal bastions from liberal states. You saw the biggest pro-Biden drops all in states that were won in some cases won by less than a percent.


That's all it proves, Denny. That it is more than mildly suspicious.

You can choose to think what you want about it.

C.H. Truth said...

The FBI doesn't know what the hell they are talking about? You really believe that they didn't investigate Hunter Biden because they didn't want to hurt his father Joe Biden?

THEY ARE CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING HUNTER BIDEN ROGER!!!

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL!!!!

Anonymous said...



The FBI doesn't know what the hell they are talking about?


alky, this FBI is telling us that our greatest domestic terror threat is white nationalism and white supremacists. the sum total of which you could fit into Michigan's Big House with room to spare.

meanwhile antifa and black LIES matter are burning, looting and murdering their way across the country.

the FBI is law enforcements equivalent of the NY Times.

to be mocked and laughed at and NOT taken seriously.

and btw, Carter page is suing a whole bunch of those FBI scumbags for $75 MILLION.

C.H. Truth said...

Here it is on Yahoo, Roger

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-investigating-hunter-biden-money-222323906.html

New York Post:

https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/fbi-investigating-hunter-biden-over-money-laundering-allegations-report/

Here is RCP video on the subject:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/29/james_rosen_fbi_has_an_active_criminal_investigation_into_hunter_biden_for_money_laundering.html


Again... it's not that the FBI is not investigating Hunter Biden... it's that most news outlets froze the story and wouldn't report it.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Comey's announcement of an investigation into Clinton's emails, probably resulted in election outcome.

Wray didn't mention it just days before the election.

Besides, they probably don't have shit so they didn't want to even mention it!!

C.H. Truth said...

Hell, some outlets even reported on case number:

The document has a “Case ID” section, which is filled in with a hand-written number: 272D-BA-3065729, according to the report, which says multiple officials and the FBI’s website confirm that “272” is the bureau’s classification for money laundering and “272D” refers to “Money Laundering, Unknown SUA [Specified Unlawful Activity]—White Collar Crime Program,” according to FBI documents. One government official told Fox News that “272D” is “transnational or blanket.”

People within the FBI confirmed that such an investigation was active.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, nobody who doesn't have their head up Trump's ass believes it!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The idea, as the Trump team stalwartly maintains, that the Supreme Court is going to take up this case and issue a game-changing ruling is fantastical. Conservative judges have consistently rejected Trump’s flailing legal appeals, and the justices are unlikely to have a different reaction.

Trump’s most reprehensible tactic has been to attempt, somewhat shamefacedly, to get local Republican officials to block the certification of votes and state legislatures to appoint Trump electors in clear violation of the public will. This has gone nowhere, thanks to the honesty and sense of duty of most of the Republicans involved, but it’s a profoundly undemocratic move that we hope no losing presidential candidate ever even thinks of again.

Getting defeated in a national election is a blow to the ego of even the most thick-skinned politicians and inevitably engenders personal feelings of bitterness and anger. What America has long expected is that losing candidates swallow those feelings and at least pretend to be gracious. If Trump’s not capable of it, he should at least stop waging war on the outcome.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The National Review

C.H. Truth said...

Believes what Roger?

That there is an investigation into Hunter Biden that involves Money Laundering or that there was a 141K Biden - 6K Trump vote drop in Michigan that took place in the wee hours of November 4th?


Which are you disputing?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The MSM is a part of the deep state conspiracy to destroy the Orange Monster

Indyvoter2 is right about you

Anonymous said...




People within the FBI confirmed that such an investigation was active.

publicly.

privately i'll bet the Biden's have been told the whole thing is on ice.

you cannot believe a single word coming out of the FBI anymore. they're rotten and corrupt to the core.

and Barr is simply going through the motions at this point.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm done with talking to you today because you have lost your mind Scott.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“Mr President, it looks like you likely lost the state of Georgia. We’re investigating, there’s always a possibility, I get it. You have the rights to go to the courts. What you don’t have the ability to do – and you need to step up and say this – is stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence. Someone is going to get hurt, someone is going to get shot, someone is going to get killed, and it’s not right. It’s not right.”

— Republican Georgia elections offiial Gabriel Sterling, making an impassioned plea to President Trump to tone down his rhetoric disputing the election results.

Anonymous said...

Unity Movement of the New Socialist Democrat Party.

Putting on the Brown Shirt.

"Biden pick Neera Tanden repudiated Michelle Obama catchphrase, said 'going high doesn't f--king work'Tanden was lauded by many Democrats, including Rep. Barbara Lee, who called her a 'great choice'

If Lee, says you are a great choice you know she is a full Radical.

Anonymous said...



hey, where's that krebs asshole who busted a nut all over scott pelley's face???



Kevin McCullough
@KMCRadio


So #BigTweet nuked the account that first posted this but I will link here the SEC form that’s on file for the sale.

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@dominionvoting
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#ChinaOwnedTheElections



https://twitter.com/KMCRadio/status/1333872720594030600



Anonymous said...




— Republican Georgia elections offiial Gabriel Sterling, making an impassioned plea to President Trump to tone down his rhetoric disputing the election results.


relax, alky. slow joe will be installed.

what i'm looking forward to is the shitstorm Trump is going to create on day 1 when he announces for 2024.

you know he's launching his 2024 campaign on 01/20/2024, right?

hell hath no fury like a Trump who got plainly and royally and publicly fucked.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The evil Wall Street Journal

ELECTION 2020

Barr Says No Evidence Voter Fraud Changed Election OutcomeThe attorney general’s comments contradict President Trump, who pressed forward with legal challenges

Election workers reviewed ballots as recount observers watched during a Milwaukee hand recount of presidential votes on Nov. 20.PHOTO: NAM Y. HUH/ASSOCIATED PRESS



 
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The Justice Department hasn’t found evidence of widespread voter fraud that could reverse President-elect Joe Biden’s election victory, Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday, dealing a blow to President Trump who launched fresh legal claims to contest the results.

Mr. Barr told the Associated Press that federal prosecutors and Federal Bureau of Investigation agents have probed complaints of voter fraud, including allegations around voting machines skewing the results.

“To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,” Mr. Barr told the AP.

With his comments, Mr. Barr, a strong ally of the president, directly contradicted Mr. Trump, who has said the election was stolen from him and refused to concede the race to Mr. Biden. Before the election, Mr. Barr had echoed Mr. Trump’s frequent criticism of mail-in voting, arguing it was ripe for fraud.

Mr. Trump’s legal advisers, including his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, have aired conspiracy theories to explain Mr. Biden’s win, saying voting machines were tampered with and collusion among judges, election officials and elected leaders in large cities swung the race.

Mr. Trump’s legal advisers rejected Mr. Barr’s conclusion.

“With all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn’t been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation,” Mr. Giuliani said in a joint statement with another Trump legal adviser, Jenna Ellis.

They said the Justice Department has, to their knowledge, not examined the evidence they have uncovered, including sworn witness testimony.

“Again, with the greatest respect to the Attorney General, his opinion appears to be without any knowledge or investigation of the substantial irregularities and evidence of systemic fraud.” the statement said.

But on Tuesday, Mr. Barr dismissed assertions made by some of Mr. Trump’s allies.

“There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results,” Mr. Barr told the AP. The Justice Department has “looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that.”

Also on Tuesday, the Trump campaign filed fresh claims in its so-far unsuccessful effort to reverse the election results, asking the Wisconsin Supreme Court to disqualify more than 200,000 mail-in ballots and appealing a Michigan judge’s decision dismissing its legal action there.

The new litigation follows a string of unsuccessful lawsuits elsewhere and comes after every major battleground state has certified results showing Mr. Biden won the election, leaving Mr. Trump with no known path to victory in the courts.

The Wisconsin lawsuit asks the state Supreme Court to do something judges elsewhere so far have refused to do: throw out mass numbers of votes without presenting direct evidence of fraud. Such a large-scale invalidation of votes would be unprecedented in a presidential election. No evidence of widespread fraud has emerged.

In Wisconsin, where state officials say Mr. Biden won by about 20,000 votes, the president’s legal team said in a filing to the state Supreme Court that the collection and counting of absentee ballots in two populous and heavily Democratic counties, Milwaukee and Dane, was marred by “systemic violations” of state election laws.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The suit claims county and city election officials improperly accepted absentee ballots submitted in person without collecting written applications, filled in missing information on returned ballots and staged “unlawful polling locations” in public parks in Madison. The suit also claims that officials allowed voters who weren’t confined to their homes to evade photo-identification requirements to get an absentee ballot.

The campaign’s petition says the court should void certification of the election and that the improper voters, which it says total more than 200,000, should be excluded from the counties’ recount totals.

The lawsuit follows a recount in Milwaukee and Dane counties during which Republicans and Trump campaign officials unsuccessfully asked election officials to disqualify such mail-in ballots. Following the recount, Mr. Biden’s lead grew by under 100 votes.

“As we have said from the very beginning of this process, we want all legal votes and only legal votes to be counted,” Mr. Giuliani said Tuesday.

State and county election officials have said the recount process was transparent and fair and that there was no evidence of voter fraud or widespread errors.

The campaign brought the legal action against Wisconsin’s Democratic governor, Tony Evers, and the state’s bipartisan election commission.

A spokesperson for Mr. Evers pointed to comments he made Monday calling the election he certified “fair, safe and efficient.”

Separately, the Trump campaign asked a Michigan appellate court Monday to revive a lawsuit claiming that state officials failed to ensure that mail-in ballots were properly inspected and monitored inside downtown Detroit’s convention center.

The appeal challenges a judge’s Nov. 6 dismissal of a lawsuit contending that Republicans were prevented from observing the processing of mail-in ballots in Wayne County, which includes Detroit, and pointing to other “troubling election irregularities.”

The Trump campaign seeks a judgment declaring that the handling of the election by Michigan’s Democratic secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, violated the state’s constitution.

anonymous said...

Lil Schitty still believing the vote drops mean something other than there were votes added to the tally!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!! Yeah, you never mentioned anything you lying prick!!!! All you have is BULLSHIT!!!!! Your earlier post concerning that report still did not provide the source or who wrote it!!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!! Idiot you will believe anything....trump counts on it!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Are you having fun, Roger...

Cutting and pasting things nobody reads while denying that Hunter Biden is under investigation and denying that 141K-6K vote drops exist?

But you still believe that Trump is a Russian spy and that him and Putin conspired to steal the 2016 election, huh?


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I never believed that!

Projection!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Putin interfered in the election. Whether Trump was aware? Probably not directly. Remember when he asked the Russians to release Clinton's email?

Impeachable? No.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Vaccine advisers to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention voted 13-1 on Tuesday to recommend that both health care workers and residents of long term care facilities be first in line for any coronavirus vaccines that get emergency authorization from the US Food and Drug Administration.

If I decide to stay here, I will get the vaccine!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Feds Investigating Cash for Trump Pardons

December 1, 2020 at 6:22 pm EST By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

“The Justice Department is investigating a potential crime related to funneling money to the White House or related political committee in exchange for a presidential pardon,” CNN reports.

“The case is the latest legal twist in the waning days of President Trump’s administration after several of his top advisers have been convicted of federal criminal charges and as the possibility rises of Trump giving pardons to those who’ve been loyal to him.”

Renato Mariotti: “Exchanging anything of value for an official act, such as granting a pardon, is a federal crime.”


Maybe this is why Barr has been silent!!!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Justice Department investigating potential presidential pardon bribery scheme, court records reveal

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/presidential-pardon-justice-department/index.html

The PDF version is available.

Anonymous said...

Officially Republicans +9 in the US House.

Brown Shirt Biden, no coattails.

Anonymous said...

Which Govenorships did Socialist Democrats flip?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The person wants the pardon is not available.

Anonymous said...

"residents of long term care facilities be first in line for any coronavirus vaccines"

You have to choice but to stay, don't pretend you have a real choice.

I see you moved from anti-vax pre election.
To pro-vax post election.

Coward .

Anonymous said...

Roger, you should with great humility , Thank Pres. Trump.

C.H. Truth said...

Officially Republicans +9 in the US House.

Actually it's +11 !!!

C.H. Truth said...

GOP picked up the only Governorship!

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Anonymous said...

Wow CHT.
So Brown Shirt Biden didn't pull them up either.
He is like Obimbo.

Anonymous said...

Brown Shirt Biden announced that he will reward the cities that allowed riots, paid bailouts.

Caliphate4vr said...

If I decide to stay here, I will get the vaccine!

If, if, if?

Anonymous said...

Yea, Cali, like his ass has a choice.

Roger, why did you go into your "home" in the first place?

Caliphate4vr said...

Someone that has the POA will have to ALLOW, Roger to leave

Anonymous said...

🤣