Yes, we know that President Trump didn't incite anyone by any legal standards.
Yes, we know we wouldn't stand a prayer in hell of convicting him in real life.
Yes, we know we don't have to votes to garner a guilty verdict.
But we are Congress and we can redefine both the term insurrection and the term incitement to whatever degree we need to in order to make it fit our silly article of impeachment.
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YES, WE KNOW ALL THAT, SCOTT, BUT----
House Democrats Build Emotionally Charged Case
11:05 pm
“House Democrats have sought out new cellphone footage of the Capitol siege as well as updated details about injured police officers as they seek to build an emotionally compelling impeachment case against former president Donald Trump,” the Washington Post reports.
“The goal is to present the Senate with fresh evidence that reveals what Trump knew in advance of the Jan. 6 rampage at the Capitol, as well as how his words and actions influenced those who participated.
“The effort to present new video evidence and witness testimony appears designed to make Republican senators as uncomfortable as possible as they prepare to vote to acquit Trump, as most have indicated they will do.
The prospect of injured police officers describing the brutality of pro-Trump rioters to Republicans who regularly present themselves as advocates of law enforcement could make for an extraordinary, nationally televised scene.”
CAN'T BLAME THAT ONE ON BLM, CAN YOU?
Top Trump Aide Played Key Role In January 6 Rally
12:12 pm
Text messages and an event-planning memo obtained by ProPublica indicate that Caroline Wren, a Washington insider with a low public profile who worked for Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, played an extensive role in managing operations for the January 6 rally that preceded the Capitol riot.
“The records show that Wren oversaw logistics, budgeting, funding and messaging for the Jan. 6 rally that featured President Donald Trump.”
January 6 Rally Funded by Top Trump Donor
9:47 am
“The rally in Washington’s Ellipse that preceded the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol was arranged and funded by a small group including a top Trump campaign fundraiser and donor facilitated by far-right show host ALEX JONES,” the Wall Street Journal reports.
“Mr. Jones personally pledged more than $50,000 in seed money for a planned Jan. 6 event in exchange for a guaranteed ‘top speaking slot of his choice.'
“Mr. Jones also helped arrange for Julie Jenkins Fancelli, a prominent donor to the Trump campaign and heiress to the Publix Super Markets Inc. chain, to commit about $300,000 through a top fundraising official for former President Trump’s 2020 campaign, according to organizers. Her money paid for the lion’s share of the roughly $500,000 rally at the Ellipse where Mr. Trump spoke.”
ALEX JONES, THE MAN WHO SAID THAT ALL THE PARENTS OF THOSE KILLED LITTLE SCHOOL CHILDREN WERE JUST PAID ACTORS.
"Mama, I'm okay, but all my friends are dead."
(That little girl was acting too, I suppose.)
NICE COMPANY YOU'RE KEEPING, GOP TRUMPSTERS.
This impeachment is stupid
CHANGE MY MIND
That might just happen during the trial
to a lot of decent people.
LOL. Stage X TDS is truly a sight to behold.
If only the left loved Slow Joe with the intensity they hate Trump.
Emotionally charged aka based on irrational political hatred
Trump is in their DNA.
They hate, hate him.
Another WIN for Trump.
The 81 million who disliked Trump enough to vote him out were a win for Trump?
LOL He's the only President since polling began with Eisenhower who ALWAYS stayed below 50% polling aggregate job approval.
Oh wait. I made a mistake. KD said that. I ignore him.
“I tried for four years to be a ‘Never Trumper’ in the Republican Party but it’s obvious now, everyone is paying homage to this ex-president. No one will stand up to him… Well, I’m a Texan and I don’t lick anyone’s boots.”
— Longtime GOP donor Jacob Monty, telling CNN he’s no longer a Republican.
Oh dear. Such hatred!
Unilateral Joe Biden .
Death of the BIG Lie of "unity".
"Unity also is trying to get, at a minimum — if you pass a piece of legislation that breaks down on party lines but it gets passed, it doesn't mean there wasn't unity; it just means it wasn't bipartisan."
KansasDemocrat January 29, 2021 at 8:51 PM
James , list 5 items in the Biden 2 Trillion Dollar Bill that were included after Biden talked to Republicans?
He invited which Ranking Republicans to the White House to work on compromise?
"50% increase in total vaccines, from 400 Million ordered to 600 million ordered" Biden
"50% increase in total vaccines, from 400 Million ordered to 600 million ordered" Biden
this is called doubling-down on stupid.
he can "order" a fucking trillion doses. he's still restricted by the capacity of the supply chain to produce.
right now the issue is with delivery, not production. at the current pace here in NY I expect to get my vaccine by maybe Labor Day.
and I can take comfort in the fact that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will get his before me.
Texas Tribune has an article dated Sept 1 2016 that Monty was opposing Trump. This is old news.
and I can take comfort in the fact that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will get his before me.
have seen the after affects of Khalid?
Don’t forget OJ getting his
The one time double thread posting is justified
rrb said...
we don't care, pederast.
go fuck yourself.
Amen
The U.S. is finally energy independent and that idiot Biden makes 8t his first priority to see that we once again become dependent on middle east oil.
The mandarin equivalent for Biden
拜登
Bà i dēng
Buy dung
LMAO
So Reverend....
Are you now predicting that the Democrats in the House, led by the guy who was sleeping with a Chinese spy will change GOP Senator's mind with an "emotional appeal"?
So you think you will get 17 GOP Senators, huh?
As your lawyers like to say!
If the law is on your side, argue the law.
If the facts are on your side, argue the facts.
If neither the law or the facts are on your side...
You pound the table.
Or in this case, you make an "emotional appeal".
New Study By Dr. Steven Quay Concludes that SARS-CoV-2 Came from a Laboratory
Wuhan Institute of Virology Research in December 2019 Shows Evidence of Adenovirus Vaccine Experiments in Patients with COVID-19
SEATTLE, Jan. 29, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- A paper was published today by Dr. Steven Quay, M.D., PhD., CEO of Atossa Therapeutics, Inc. (NASDAQ: ATOS), entitled, "A Bayesian analysis concludes beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis but instead is laboratory derived."
...
The final conclusion is that it is a 99.8% probability SARS-CoV-2 came from a laboratory and only a 0.2% likelihood it came from nature.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/study-dr-steven-quay-concludes-130000526.html
And China locked down while allowing international flights to spread the virus.
Joe has taken action.
We cannot call it the China virus.
How about holding China accountable ???
They're not good guys, guys.
Gordon G. Chang
https://twitter.com/GordonGChang/status/1355523440208457730
#JoeBiden, running for the Democratic Party nomination last February, starting calling #China's #XiJinping a "thug." Yet #Biden, in one of his first official words as president, recalled fond memories with Xi: https://bit.ly/366czTp. This cannot be a good sign.
Hey they're Hunters buddies and he's kicking up to "the big guy"
You know the guy who is all fenced in and putting his political opponent on trial.
I got my first vaccine injection today!
He makes some sense to me.
Columnist
Opinion: It still doesn’t make sense to impeach and convict Donald Trump
Opinion by George F. Will
January 29 at 5:00 AM PST
Even before revelations about President Donald Trump’s pressuring Ukraine to assist his reelection campaign, many Democrats in the House of Representatives wanted to impeach him for this and that. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, however, rightly expressed her opposition to impeachment in five withering words: “He’s just not worth it.”
The Ukraine episode forced Pelosi (D-Calif.) to favor impeachment, even though Trump’s acquittal by a Republican-controlled Senate was certain. Her and her caucus’s understandable fury about Trump’s encouragement of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, a patently impeachable offense, made a second impeachment inevitable. That did not, however, make it prudent.
There are two reasons for impeaching a president, one retrospective, one prophylactic: to punish the president for gross misbehavior, or to protect the country from anticipatable future offenses by the president. Trump impeachment 2.0 is a variant of the latter. Its supposed purpose is to deter future presidents who might be as reckless as he was. For this reason, many serious scholars — see, for example, the writings of Princeton’s Keith Whittington — defend both the constitutionality and wisdom of impeaching and convicting this ex-president. Deterrence, however, presupposes rationality, and perhaps a conscience, neither of which would feature in any future iteration of the 45th president.
Political prudence is a talent. It involves applying crystalline principles to untidy realities. The principle of holding people accountable for their actions is generally sound. But high-minded rhetoric about enforcing “accountability” on Trump ignores the fact that neither his reputation nor his future political salience hinges on the Senate impeachment trial. Besides, almost all Senate Republicans, tarting up their timidity as scrupulousness, have latched on to a principle that many scholars, including Whittington, and some past practices refute — that impeaching a person no longer in office is unconstitutional.
Those who love Trump and those who loathe him — who today is undecided? — are all having altogether too much fun. The former are wallowing in the victimhood they think they share with him. The latter are luxuriating in a vengeance disconnected from the public good. And they are relishing the discomfort of Republican senators who will be damaged no matter whether they vote to convict or acquit. Regarding the reason for impeachment — the events of Jan. 6 — reasonable people, for whom seeing is believing, know what happened, and why. Trump supporters, for whom believing is seeing, cannot be reached by reasoning, constitutional or otherwise.
Which minority was denied you RAY-CISS
Democrats probably know that impeachment is not needed to keep Republicans, fresh from the frying pan, roasting in the fire Trump lit. Sen. Rob Portman, the Ohio Republican, this week announced that he will not seek a third term in 2022. Trump easily carried Ohio by 8.13 percentage points in 2016 and 8.03 in 2020. Portman did not ascribe his decision to electoral considerations. He cannot, however, have happily anticipated trying to court voters who are as temperate as he is without detonating bitter-end Trump supporters. They are probably a majority of Republicans nationally.
Democrats pushing impeachment 2.0 know that many states’ Republican Party organizations are controlled by peculiar people. Last week, Oregon’s party proclaimed: “The violence at the Capitol was a ‘false flag’ operation designed to discredit President Trump.” Texas’s Republican Party has taken to using the slogan “We are the storm,” a formulation favored by QAnon, which the FBI considers a domestic terrorism threat. The “storm,” in QAnon’s parlance, is the coming day of deliverance when satanic pedophiles are to be arrested and executed.
In Arizona, the Republicans’ strongest potential Senate candidate in 2024 would be Doug Ducey, whose second and final term as governor ends in 2023. He, however, flatly says, “I’m not running.” Not wanting to be a senator is understandable. But why would Ducey even consider running after Arizona’s GOP recently censured him for emergency measures he has taken combating covid-19?
Meanwhile, Trump, a mini-Achilles sulking in his Palm Beach tent, nurses his grievances, confident that he will be enlarged among Republicans when he is acquitted by the Senate. There, few Republicans are willing to enrage many constituents by voting to convict him for no better reason than that he is obviously guilty as charged.
The Constitution mandates: “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. did so in Trump’s first trial. Roberts has, however, decided not to do so in the next one, in which the president — note the definite article: “the” — is not on trial. Roberts is too judicious to say so, but his decision perhaps implies this about the person on trial: He’s just not worth it.
I would like to see him convicted.
But because the ex President has a stranglehold on the Republican party it would be better to let a few moderate Republicans to hold office and cooperate with President Biden on the future of the United states.
JovanHuttonPulitzer
https://gab.com/JovanHuttonPulitzer/posts/105645210312061300
China has an entire digital military operation which does nothing but troll and incite people to violence. That unit is 130,000 digital warriors strong. Think about that.
Gordon G. Chang
https://twitter.com/GordonGChang/status/1355502434861391875
An intelligence unit of #China’s military, based in the now-closed Houston consulate, identified Americans likely to participate in violent protest and then sent them #TikTok videos inciting insurrection. Why do we tolerate #Chinese attempts to overthrow our government?
Actual China interference in our election and with our leaders must not be challenged and instead this must be falsely tied to Trump.
They are Biden's masters.
And for 99.9% of the protesters, they did not go there to violently protest but rather exercise their right to non-violent protest. During the day, and tragically five Trump supporters died.
But boy was the media and DNC ready, wonder what tipped them off when the Capitol Police were caught unawares ???
Enemy of the people.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I got my first vaccine injection today!
What you should’ve done is allow that honorable indigenous mexifornian to have your shot, so he could continue to toil for you, in your state assisted lockdown
"New Study By Dr. Steven Quay Concludes that SARS-CoV-2 Came from a Laboratory"
Trump was right, China Screwed to World.
Roger told us he got his first shot a week ago. or so.
Roger, get your story together.
I don't spend a lot of time here anymore. I'm working on something far more important.
So I miss a lot here, and don't care.
In response to Scott's 1:34:
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He said:
So you think you will get 17 GOP Senators, huh?
I say:
I don't think that, and I never said that.
I do think, however, the trial will be, as the article said, an embarrassment for all those who will vote in favor of Trump.
And later it could hurt them. And hurt the GOP.
Trump is firmly attached to the GOP and is going to continue to do the party harm, that's what I think.
McConnell knows that, because for all his faults he has political savvy,
and lots of Republicans know it took,
but they are
too afraid to do what they should
and/or
too corrupt to do what they should
and it is going to hurt them in the future.
That's what I think.
But I'm sure you will once again tell me what I really think and say.
I said that I got tested negative kputz shut the fuck up
Chuck Ross
@ChuckRossDC
Kevin Clinesmith receives probation, $100 fine & 400 hours of community service for altering email about Carter Page.
Judge Boasberg said that Clinesmith's actions "undermined the integrity of the FISA process," but still handed down the light sentence.
Donald Trump Jr.
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1355594032399982595
Imagine what the sentence would have been if it was a Trump admin person that forged docs to start an investigation. Yea you guessed it they’d actually be punished. BIGLY!!!
What a disgrace our “justice” system has become.
But boy CNN and the FBI sure gave it to Carter Page on national TV
Banana Republic
Donald Trump Jr.
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status
Can you imagine how good Jr will look serving a sentence in the cell next to daddy on tax fraud charges!!!!!! That sure would be poetic justice for America!!!!!!!!!
Biden has yet to pass any Legisilation.
Failure.
Richard Grenell
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1355533007696744453
It makes no sense to let people fly on an airplane for 5 hours but not be inside a restaurant or a gym for 1 hour.
Open up our businesses!
@GavinNewsom must be recalled.
Banana Republic with junk "scientists"
and a demented president with a Chinese master
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I got my first vaccine injection today!
good job alky.
and a black person was denied theirs so you could have yours.
Roger has gamed the Medicaid system out of a million dollars, he did so proudly.
Now he saves his Lilly White South Dakota ass over that of a deserving Minority.
When do you get your applesauce tonight Rog?
2 racks of hickory-pecan SLOW smoked ribs in about an hour
Republicans Are Trying to Make It Harder to Vote
6:08 pm
“In Georgia, Arizona and other states won by President Biden, some leading Republicans stood up in November to make what, in any other year, would be an unremarkable statement: The race is over. And we lost, fair and square,” the New York Times reports.
“But that was then. Now, in statehouses nationwide, Republicans who echoed former President Donald J. Trump’s baseless claims of rampant fraud are proposing to make it harder to vote next time — ostensibly to convince the very voters who believed them that elections can be trusted again. And even some colleagues who defended the legitimacy of the November vote are joining them.”
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We gotta keep all them people of color from votin.' them folks who got here on slave ships and them wet backs who waded the Rio Grande, and them who come here claimin' they wuz 'scaping persecution, an' all others such as them, cuz they ain't REAL Americans. yuh know.
Millions of low-income households with children are about to get more help buying groceries during the pandemic under a new policy released Friday by the Biden administration.
Socialist party has been identified by Trump supporters.
They have to be cooked at 250° for 4 hours, then the bbq sauce is put on them, and cooked for another 20 minutes.
They are cut between the rib bones and served with salad and,?? What you want.
This story describes how Scott thinks.
You know the drill.
Sen. Marco Rubio said the impeachment is “stupid.” Oh, and did he mention “divisive?”
The infinitely flexible Nikki Haley asks not whether former President Trump attempted to steal the election, but how low the base would like her to sink. Appearing on the Laura Ingraham show, she offered up the expected persecution narrative: “They beat him up before he got into office. They are beating him up after he leaves office. I mean, at some point, I mean, give the man a break. I mean, move on.” Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia
See how this works? It was Trump who was beaten, not Officer Sicknick who will lay at rest in the Capitol and be buried in the Arlington National Cemetery.
Murder is free speech in the Republican party.
Lorie, Roger makes up the dumbest shit.
They have to be cooked at 250° for 4 hours, then the bbq sauce is put on them, and cooked for another 20 minutes.
They are cut between the rib bones and liquified so that I can suck them through a straw
I edited that
Sounds Great Cali.
Alky can't do any off that given his poverty .
Two of Trump’s Impeachment Lawyers Quit
9:24 pm
“With a little more than a week before his impeachment trial is set to begin, President Trump’s legal team is in tumult,” CNN reports.
“Butch Bowers and Deborah Barbier, who were expected to be two of the lead attorneys, are no longer on the team. A source familiar with the changes said it was a mutual decision for both to leave the legal team.”
Five of former President Donald Trump's impeachment defense team attorneys have stepped aside a little more than a week before his Senate trial is set to begin, according to people familiar with the case, amid a disagreement over his legal strategy.
Butch Bowers and Deborah Barbier, who were expected to be two of the lead attorneys, are no longer on the team. A source familiar with the changes said it was a mutual decision for both to leave the legal team. As the lead attorney, Bowers assembled the team.
Josh Howard, a North Carolina attorney who was recently added to the team, has also left, according to another source familiar with the changes. Johnny Gasser and Greg Harris, also from South Carolina, are no longer involved with the case, either.
A person familiar with the departures told CNN that Trump wanted the attorneys to argue there was mass election fraud and that the election was stolen from him rather than focus on the legality of convicting a president after he's left office. Trump was not receptive to the discussions about how they should proceed in that regard.
The attorneys had not yet been paid any advance fees and a letter of intent was never signed.
CNN has reached out to the attorneys for comment.
"The Democrats' efforts to impeach a president who has already left office is totally unconstitutional and so bad for our country. In fact, 45 Senators have already voted that it is unconstitutional. We have done much work, but have not made a final decision on our legal team, which will be made shortly," former Trump campaign adviser Jason Miller told CNN.
Bowers, a respected lawyer from Columbia, South Carolina, once worked in the Justice Department under President George W. Bush.
Greene Says She Has Trump’s Support
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) said Saturday that she spoke with former President Trump as she faces growing bipartisan criticism over past social media posts in which she expressed support for violence against Democrats, The Hill reports.
Said Greene: “I had a GREAT call with my all time favorite POTUS, President Trump! I’m so grateful for his support and more importantly the people of this country are absolutely 100% loyal to him because he is 100% loyal to the people and America First.”
TRUMP LOVES QANON FASCISTIC WHITE SUPREMACIST INSURRECTIONIST RIOTERS AND WOULD BE MURDERERS.
"WHERE ARE THE VOTES BEIN' COUNTED? HANG MIKE PENCE!!!"
You would have loved how great they taste. I also used wood chips and smoked them for all 4 hours.
They are not liquefied dumbass
A person familiar with the departures told CNN that Trump wanted the attorneys to argue there was mass election fraud and that the election was stolen from him rather than focus on the legality of convicting a president after he's left office. Trump was not receptive to the discussions about how they should proceed in that regard.
The lawyers have a consciences . Trump doesn't.
They are not liquefied dumbass
Imma just leave this.
Wow
From Roger's post--
A person familiar with the departures told CNN that Trump wanted the attorneys to argue there was mass election fraud and that the election was stolen from him rather than focus on the legality of convicting a president after he's left office. Trump was not receptive to the discussions about how they should proceed in that regard.
TRUMP CAN'T FIND ANY LAWYERS OR JUDGES OF JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS TO LIE FOR HIM,
--ONLY REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS ARE WILLING TO DO THAT.
You said liquified so that I can suck them through a straw.
Put down the Jack Daniels and pass out.
OR JUSTICE DEPRTMENT OFFICALS
Mr. Biden’s approval ratings in initial polls range from 54 percent (Monmouth University) to 56 percent (Morning Consult) to 63 percent (Hill-HarrisX). Mr. Trump’s rating at a similar point in 2017 was around 46 percent in the Morning Consult poll.
Yet it is not the overwhelming approval that many new presidents had, a reflection of far more divided times. From Dwight D. Eisenhower to George Bush, every newly elected president was in the 60s or 70s for his first six months, according to figures compiled by the polling website FiveThirtyEight. Bill Clinton, however, averaged just 50.5 percent and George W. Bush just 53.9 percent. Mr. Obama had more lift at 60.2 percent, but Mr. Trump averaged 41.4 percent, the lowest of any president in the history of polling.
Not even former DOJ lawyers he appointed
Black Lives Matter has been nominated for a 2021 Nobel Peace Prize.
Norwegian member of parliament Petter Eide said he nominated the organization because it is "bringing forward a new consciousness and awareness about racial justice."
"To carry forward a movement of racial justice and to spread that to other countries is very, very important. Black Lives Matter is the strongest force today doing this, not only in the U.S. but also in Europe and in Asia," Eide told USA TODAY Saturday.
Eide said Black Lives Matter carries forward the legacy of earlier racial justice movements, such as the Civil Rights Movement in the U.S. and the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964, and Albert Luthuli and Nelson Mandela won the prize in 1960 and 1993, respectively, for their campaigns against racial discrimination in South Africa.
"For the Nobel Prize Committee, this is not unusual to link a fight for (racial) justice, to link that with peace," Eide said. "There will be no peace without justice."
George Floyd was sacrificed for being Black'
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