In many respects, #44 seemed well suited as juror, from a thought-process perspective.
She acknowledged the importance of knowing both sides to any dispute, gathering additional information when available, and recognized that it was normal for people to have different views of the same matter.
She also acknowledged that she had to arrive at a verdict based on the evidence shown in court, and not what she might have learned elsewhere. Remarkably, she several times referenced her belief that the media was biased generally.
Prospective juror #44 also acknowledged that while what she saw of the video of Floyd’s death created a negative impression for her of Chauvin, she was aware that she doesn’t know the laws and procedures for police detaining a suspect.
She noted also that Floyd dying was surely not the intended endpoint for police procedures, and also expressed the belief that none of the officers involved in this event went into it planning that Floyd would die. She also noted that the police in her community contribute to her safety, and appeared to have no negative perceptions of the police generally.
She also seemed to have a genuinely open mind on the question of whether Chauvin and the other officers involved in Floyd’s arrest were acting with malice. Indeed, she presumed that they were not acting with malice.
She also indicated that she would have a generally lower opinion of a person if she learned they used illegal drugs, mostly because doing so was a poor life decision.
These notes are taken from the Legal Insurrection website writer who is covering the trial. It would seem like this is pretty good juror for the defense, but the problem is that the prosecution is actually down to four preemptory strikes left.
They are likely more concerned for the type of jurors that they did use their strike against, including a former military person who make note that people who are not trained in the tactics used in law enforcement or military might not understand the context of what a police officer is doing. In this case, this is a juror who would probably be likely to acquit Chauvin if it simply turned out he was following procedure. While this is probably not a bad thing, it is a problem for the prosecution if they feel that proving Chauvin went outside of police protocol might be difficult. At this point there is only minor quibbling over small details of what Chauvin did from a protocol standpoint. He pretty much followed procedure to within 95% of absolute.
Overall, with the exception of one juror (who seems a little too eager to be on the jury) the six other jurors seem fairly impartial in their answers to the questions. Of course, anything can happen once the trial take place and some of these jurists might not be what they make themselves out to be.
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I figured it was a right wing nutcase websites and again I was right.
History
Founded in 2008, Legal Insurrection is a conservative blog created by William A. Jacobson who is an American lawyer and professor. According to their about page “Legal Insurrection now is one of the most widely cited and influential conservative websites, with hundreds of thousands of visitors per month. Our work has been highlighted by top conservative radio personalities, such as Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin.”
You live in an alternate reality universe, instead of the reality universe, where the earth isn't the center of the universe.
I found this today. A deep state conspiracy theorists like you.
JAMES BOVARD
They are coming to get you
Across the nation, FBI agents are swooping down upon conservative activists, Trump supporters, and anyone suspected of any tie to the January 6 clash at the Capitol. Conservative author Candace Owens tweeted on March 3: “About 10 of my friends who attended Trump’s speech but DID NOT go to Capitol building thereafter have had the FBI turn up at their door to ask them why they went to D.C. … Our FBI is trying to scare conservatives against ever gathering in the future.”
Actually, the potential problem is far worse for people targeted by the feds. FBI chief Christopher Wray, who is scrambling to deliver the indictments that will please his congressional overlords, says the agency is conducting 2,000 domestic terrorism investigations. Few Americans recognize how badly the legal playing field is tilted against them.
Another one said the investigators into the January 6th Insurrection, was trying to destroy the first amendment rights of people like The Proud Boys, by declaring them to be domestic terrorists like the KKK.
The non right wing websites show the jurors look like regular people who will depend upon the evidence, not their political or personal bias.
He has the right jury of his peers. It looks to me, he will have a good verdict on the evidence as granted by the Constitution.
Vince Dao
Rush Limbaugh haters be like:
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/thevincedao/status/1362266582064324609
But the lawsuit alleges that Floyd’s civil rights were violated when he was restrained, along with other allegations. As we all ponder the enormous payday that was just awarded to the Floyd family, let’s step back and consider the facts for a moment—especially since there are some facts here that seem to have been completely ignored.
And let’s ask some basic questions, to make sure these were considered in granting an enormous sum. Therefore, did the huge, virtue-signaling payout of citizen tax dollars consider whether:
The incident began because a victim called police to report that George Floyd committed a felony crime?
George Floyd overdosed on illegal methamphetamine and fentanyl—and enough of it to likely kill a horse, or an ox?
George Floyd would have acted like his passengers and simply followed officers’ requests—during their investigation of a felony crime?
Of course, asking these kinds of questions is a good way to get yourself “cancelled”—especially if you dare mention that George Floyd can be blamed for anything, perhaps ever in his life nowadays. But does anyone with common sense actually believe that George Floyd had nothing to do with his own death?
Returning to the facts, the coroner described the amount of fentanyl in Floyd’s system as a “lethal dose.”
Other officials also documented that if Floyd would have died—anywhere else without a cop around—his death would be “considered an overdose.”
However, in this case, whether unknowingly or in an attempt to swallow drugs to not get caught in possession of illegal, controlled substances—Floyd’s actions prompted someone to call police. And subsequently, the police were present when he began to show symptoms of a drug overdose, or excited delirium, or both.
As practically every video shows, Floyd was agitated and had difficulty speaking coherently and breathing—long before he said that he couldn’t breathe (which is a symptom of various drug overdoses, and other medical emergencies). And rather than simply follow the requests of the investigating officers, like his passengers did, Floyd struggled with officers before being placed in the back of the police car. He then screamed to be placed on the ground because he was claustrophobic.
Noticing Floyd’s distress and symptoms, officers called paramedics based on their training on excited delirium that was given to the officers in 2018. This training and quick action was important because according to PubMed, “It has become increasingly recognized that individuals displaying ExDS (excited delirium) are at high risk for sudden death, and ExDS therefore represents a true medical emergency.”
The officers acted quickly and without hesitation. According to their training and the medical research, they called paramedics, took Floyd out of the car, and subdued him on the ground in an attempt to lower his heart rate. Because Floyd was struggling and fighting, subduing him and keeping him still was their only option.
We know the rest of the story. (continues)
https://www.lawofficer.com/27-million-does-not-change-the-facts/
Roger , Good of you to run from your posts on your Misery Index post.
Really, you totally and completely humiliated yourself.
The Wall Street Journal reported on the trial.
The jurors selected so far include five men and two women. Four are white and three are people of color. Twelve jurors and two alternates will ultimately be chosen; jury selection is expected to take about another week.
Mr. Chauvin is facing charges of second-degree murder—unintentional, while committing a felony—third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. In the video footage, Mr. Floyd can be seen facedown on the ground and losing consciousness as Mr. Chauvin places a knee on his neck for around nine minutes, as three other officers assist him.
The county medical examiner ruled Mr. Floyd’s death a homicide and listed the cause as “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression.” The county autopsy indicated Mr. Floyd suffered from heart disease and had drugs in his system, which was complicated by officers holding him down.
The defense has argued that the drugs and heart disease caused Mr. Floyd’s death, noting the medical examiner found no evidence of injury to his neck and back.
Prosecutors say the medical examiner’s report supports the charges that the police officers contributed to Mr. Floyd’s death.
Mr. Floyd’s death sparked protests and violence around the country, and the Black Lives Matter movement propelled a national debate about whether police funding would be better used for social services and other purposes. Minneapolis faced days of protests and riots.
“There wasn’t a need for all the criminal activities that happened, all the burning and the looting,” a married man in his 20s said while being questioned by Mr. Nelson on Thursday. The man, identified as Hispanic, was chosen for the jury.
One prospective juror, a Black woman with two young children, said she “couldn’t unsee” the video from the case. In the questionnaire, she described Mr. Chauvin’s expression as hateful in the moments when he was seen kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck in the viral video. She was dismissed.
But other jurors held more nuanced views, some of whom were accepted on the jury.
Six of the seven jurors chosen to date indicated in jury questionnaires and follow-up questioning that they held at least a somewhat favorable view of the Black Lives Matter movement.
But most of the seated jurors who expressed that support said that it was more for the concept of Black Lives Matter and that they didn’t always like the group’s tactics or politics.
The first juror approved, a chemist who said he had not seen video of Mr. Floyd’s death, said he felt the BLM organization was sometimes too extreme. Another juror, a woman who said she has an uncle who is a police officer, said she felt that both Black Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter had been co-opted by marketers.
“I like the idea of what they’re supposed to stand for, but I think that it’s been turned into a propaganda scheme by companies and stuff just to get you to buy their stuff,” she said of Black Lives Matter when questioned by Mr. Nelson, adding that she felt similarly about Blue Lives Matter. Blue lives and Black lives. I see why he was selected.
Melissa Mordell Gomez, a jury consultant, said asking about Black Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter gives lawyers a concrete way to frame conversations about otherwise uncomfortable topics. She noted that the Me Too movement—which shined a light on the pervasiveness of sexual misconduct, especially on the workplace—did the same thing in trials for Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby.
“It has a name, and it is something easier to talk about,” she said.
Trahern Crews, founder and chief organizer for Black Lives Matter Minnesota, said he was encouraged that some members of the jury had a positive view of the group. “People from Minnesota actually get to see us do the work. They know we’re not like spooky people or a threat to society,” he said.
Fred Bruno, an attorney for the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association’s legal defense fund who is consulting on Mr. Chauvin’s case, said he liked jurors who agreed with the philosophies behind both the Black Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter movements. The MPPOA is a statewide professional association and is paying for Mr. Chauvin’s defense.
“The ones I would avoid are the ones who strongly agree with BLM and who disagreed with Blue Lives Matter,” he said.
Mr. Crews says he sees problems with the composition of the jury so far because the only Black person seated is an immigrant who said he came to the U.S. more than a decade ago.
“I would like to see someone whose ancestors actually went through slavery, Jim Crow and the Civil Rights era, who understand the history of our relationship with the police,” he said.
Write to Joe Barrett at joseph.barrett@wsj.com
It looks like a balanced jury so far.
The civil lawsuit has already been completed troll squad asshole
Roger Amick said...
The civil lawsuit has already been completed troll squad asshole
Which is the whole basis of the article and link I posted asshole.
As I posted:
https://www.lawofficer.com/27-million-does-not-change-the-facts/
27-million-does-not-change-the-facts
Minneapolis, Minn. — Today’s settlement of 27 million dollars by the city of Minneapolis to the family of George Floyd should not be surprising. But the timing of the announcement—and what it attempts to compensate for—should concern every American. Don’t get me wrong, I feel bad for George Floyd’s family. But does anyone want to live in a society where poor choices, criminal behavior, and drug use are rewarded?
alky needs to back and sue his 3rd grade teacher who "taught" him reading.
Totally left off reading comprehension.
But I'm sure he won't even get a 27 dollar civil settlement.
Have to have something to work with.
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I really , truly do not have the heart to tell Alky what he, has so spectacularly wrong.
"Roger AmickMarch 13, 2021 at 3:34 PM
US Misery Index is at a current level of 7.876, up from 7.700 last month and up from 5.835 one year ago. This is a change of 2.29% from last month and 34.98% from one year ago.
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Roger AmickMarch 13, 2021 at 3:35 PM
(⬆️) "34.98% from one year ago"
CAN someone do it .
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The Misery Index was 34.98% from one year ago
Today it is 7.87%
Approximately 6× higher
Trump getting vaccines to market did wonders for the morale of the country.
Sleepy President Joe Biden was working late in his private office in the White House. At the end of the day his chief of staff had handed him a somewhat unfortunate report from the Justice Department. It seemed Hunter recently sold the Brooklyn Bridge to the president of Moldova for $30 million. “Damn fool kid,” the president muttered to himself. “It’s worth at least three times that.”
Someone was knocking at his door. Where was his staff? How did security let someone through? “Come in,” he said hesitantly. Maybe it was his wife, the doctor, coming to give him a pill. Or be one.
It wasn’t. Instead, in walked a dark-haired man of middling age, dressed in black with a white ruff around his neck and, alarmingly, a sword at his side. “Permit me to introduce myself to Your Excellency,” the visitor said, bowing elaborately. “I am the Count-Duke of Olivares. I was what you would now call the prime minister of Spain through much of the first half of the 17th century.”
Biden hit the panic button under his desk. In an instant, the room was filled with Secret Service agents, guns drawn. “Get this nut case out of here!” the president barked. “Who let him in? He’s got a sword, dammit.”
“Um, who, Mr. President?” asked an agent, looking around puzzled. Olivares smiled. “Him! That guy!” yelled the president, pointing. “Um, Mr. President, we don’t see anyone,” said the agent. Oops, thought the president. “Oh, OK guys, I guess I just nodded off again.” Better to be nuts than to be thought nuts, said Biden to himself. “No problem, Mr. President,” the agent said. “I do the same thing all the time.” As they left, Biden thought he heard one say to another, “Bats in the belfry again,” but he wasn’t sure.
“OK, Mr. Olives or whoever you are, what’s this all about?” asked a peeved president. Olivares again bowed and scraped. “I am the Ghost of Empires Past, the Spanish empire to be precise,” he said. “When I rose to power, Spain was the world power without peer, the only hyperpower, if you will. By the time I fell, Spain was in an accelerating downward spiral that ended in a change of dynasties. Part of my penance for my failures is to warn others who are following Spain’s course. Regrettably, I must tell you your United States is now my Spain, without our good manners.”
“I have no idea what you’re talking about,” grumbled the president. “Permit me to draw your attention to some unhappy parallels,” explained the count-duke. “Like Spain, America is overextended, committed to goals it lacks the power and money to achieve. We set up a Baltic fleet while the Dutch controlled the Straits of Gibraltar; you attempt to bring peace and order to Afghanistan when you cannot provide it in your own cities. We could not pull back because the reputación of the monarchy was at stake; your term is ‘credibility.’ What do you think Cervantes was talking about when he wrote of tilting at windmills? But at court, now in Washington as then in Madrid, anyone who mentioned the unfortunate contradictions was banished. In my Spain, even the simplest activities required so many people, so much ceremony, that eventually nothing moved. As you might put it, vast inputs brought only tiny outputs. It reached the point where the king’s entourage was so vast he could no longer leave Madrid.”
“OK, that I get,” said Biden. “I can’t walk out the back door to take a piss behind the bushes without them locking down half the city.”
25th Amendment soon
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The Misery Index was 34.98% from one year ago
Today it is 7.87%
Approximately 6× higher
me thinks thou are full of shit. It’s never been above 22% EVER
You can’t read Alky
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Cali , Thank You.
Poor Alky believes he knows how the US Economy works, he shows daily he doesn't.
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