Andrew Blanca seemed fairly upset with both the defense and the defense witness and at one time described the process as a train wreck. According to Blanca, the prosecution repeatedly asked questions that Nelson should have objected to (a recurring criticism) and thought that Brodd was offering information that he should not have.
I see some of this as the realities of the situation.
Under direct and redirect Brodd repeated claimed that the knee restraint was justified and provided reasonable reasons for that belief. Unlike the prosecutions witnesses, who relied on hindsight and what is written in the book, Brodd suggested that based on what Chauvin encountered and given the ongoing situation, that what he did was appropriate.
- That he walked into a situation where multiple cops could not restrain Floyd
- That Floyd could possibly still be resistant and violent
- That he was in the street with no way of really blocking traffic
- That a crowd was gathering and looked to be possibly explosive
- That an EMT was on the way and should have been expected sooner
Where prosecution made their argument (and it is a clever one) was by breaking down every situation individually and asking Brodd if each of these situations (in and of themselves) were dangerous. Of course showing a 17 year old girl with a camera in an of itself should not have distracted Chauvin. The fact that Chauvin was restraining Floyd on the street, in and of itself should not have distracted Chauvin. etc... etc...
In a vacuum with nothing else going on, Chauvin should have noticed that Floyd had no more pulse. Which of course is the cold hard reality of this. No matter how appropriate everything else might have been, Chauvin failed to realize that someone he was restraining was no longer breathing.
That continues to be a thorn in the side of the defense and the prosecution aptly exploited that. I am not 100% sure that either Nelson or Brodd could avoid that issue. Had Floyd still been breathing and died on the way or at the hospital. Different story. But the reality remains that Chauvin continued to restraint a non-responsive person for approximately two minutes.
Nelson does come back in redirect to explain that the problem with taking bits and pieces from here and there to make a judgement on what would have been reasonable fails to account for the situation all together. Nothing was happening individually. Everything was happening all at once in real time in what certainly seemed to have been a very dangerous situation. It's a little dishonest to pretend otherwise, but you play the hand that you are dealt. The prosecution played their hand better than the defense did today.
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I had agreed because they discredit the crowd caused the officers to continue restraints longer than necessary, because the crown was mostly young women are even children. They were not threatening them. The defense tried to show the crowd was a threat.
They said that Floyd could possibly still be resistant and violent despite being handcuffed and underneath the car and behind the tire.
And again that the drugs didn't kill him.
Crowd not crown!
Chauvin failed to realize that someone he was restraining was no longer breathing is important because they were trained to perform CPR. Before the ambulance and the medics arrived.
The cause of death is clear.
But is a failure to recognize his asphyxiation is not intent. They are not medical professionals .
Scott second degree manslaughter is difficult for the prosecution. Imo
the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another
Culpability is not easy to prove.
Unless they can prove he knew negligence....???
For someone living in an “apartment” on the beach in Santa Monica, you spend a lot of obsessive time here, Alky
I guess those tennis balls on your walker make it difficult to go and walk the beach. They’ve got some with 4 wheels now
Get help
THWAP!
Congratulations, Mr. President:
President Biden will withdraw all American troops from Afghanistan over the coming months, people familiar with the plans said, completing the military exit by the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that first drew the United States into its longest war.
....Biden’s decision comes after an administration review of U.S. options in Afghanistan, where U.S.-midwived peace talks have failed to advance as hoped and the Taliban remains a potent force despite two decades of effort by the United States to defeat the militants and establish stable, democratic governance.
....“This is the immediate, practical reality that our policy review discovered,” the person familiar with the deliberations said. “If we break the May 1st deadline negotiated by the previous administration with no clear plan to exit, we will be back at war with the Taliban, and that was not something President Biden believed was in the national interest.”
“We’re going to zero troops by September.”
There has never been a good solution to the problem of Afghanistan. For whatever reason—and we will be studying it for years—we cannot defeat the Taliban using the resources the American public will tolerate. It's even possible we can't defeat the Taliban, period. A stalemate is the best we can do, and a stalemate will last forever since, after 20 years, it's obvious that the establishment Afghan regime will never be able to produce either a consensus government or a standalone military capable of standing up to the Taliban.
This has been clear for a long time. Obama knew it. Trump knew it. But neither had the courage of their convictions. If the US pulls out completely, the Taliban will overrun Afghanistan in a year or so. In other words, the United States will have definitively lost a war it spent 20 years fighting. No president is willing to be the guy who approved that.
But now Biden says he's going to do it. If he follows through on this, it will be a mark of singular courage. He sure as hell has my support for it.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden will withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11, the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on America that were coordinated from that country, several U.S. officials said Tuesday.
The decision defies a May 1 deadline for full withdrawal under a peace agreement the Trump administration reached with the Taliban last year
better late than never.
Thanks President Trump, hopefully Biden won't slip any further.
THWAP !!!
Even pjmedia
ABC 10 News talked to a local law expert who broke down the charges against the former officer.
“None of the charges require the state to prove that Derek Chauvin intentionally killed Mr. Floyd,” said Rachel Moran, a professor at University of St. Thomas Law School in Minneapolis. “The difference in the three charges is really mostly about Derek Chauvin’s mental state.”
For the first charge of second degree unintentional felony murder, the state needs to prove Chauvin committed a felony, in this case assault, and it led to Floyd’s death.
Moran said this means proving that Chauvin knew he was committing a crime and that he was assaulting Floyd when the 46-year-old died as a result.
The charge of third degree “depraved mind” murder means that the prosecution must prove Chauvin caused the death of Floyd with an act “eminently dangerous to others… without regard for human life.”
As defense attorney Robert Barnes explains the prosecution “must have established intent to cause serious bodily harm under manslaughter count and still must prove intent that [Chauvin] thought he was going to kill [Floyd] in the top count against him.”
But pjmedia is still fucking crazy mothrfuckers
The prosecution’s case was spread over 12 days. Attorneys chosen by antifa-friendly Attorney General Keith Ellison
http://bilasport.net/mlb/angels.php
Roger Amick said...
But pjmedia is still fucking crazy mothrfuckers
The prosecution’s case was spread over 12 days. Attorneys chosen by antifa-friendly Attorney General Keith Ellison
Well his son is on the city council who paid out the 27 million dollar settlement for Floyd before the trial even began and has declared his support of antifa.
And Ellison has publicly praised antifa and even tweeted out a picture of him and the antifa handbook
Are you really this demented, or ignorant, or is it just an act alky ?
The only crazy motherfuckers are the Ellisons
and you
THWAP !!!
Michigan has been told by the CDC to shut the Mother-f-er down.
Michigan Gov. Witless, Socialist, followed ever Recommendation, ever time Dr. Fraud Fauci farted she inhaled like it was pure oxygen.
Mr.Broke-it Biden been telling us that inflation is of no concern.
Yet, reality is the Inflation "Unexpectedly" jumped.
Wait for Biden to pour $5.2 Trillion on this bon fire.
Roger... the videos from earlier show a crowd getting a bit out of control. Right on that edge.
That cannot be cleverly argued away on cross. On fact, attempting to do so may actually make the jury question the honesty of the State.
Who are you going to believe. Me or your lying eyes.
Mr Whitlock.ois Black.
"Sports columnist Jason Whitlock said Monday he would not comply with Twitter's demand to remove a tweet criticizing a Black Lives Matter co-founder's purchase of an expensive home after the social media giant locked Whitlock out of his account"
The best known Republicans on Capitol Hill today, Boehner writes in a new book, are not conservatives. Instead, the front rank of the party is filled by loudmouths willing to voice the wildest conspiracy theories.
These pretend conservatives rake in money by being stars in what Boehner calls "Looneyville," the echo chamber of right-wing radio hosts and even further right websites.
In "On the House: A Washington Memoir," Boehner said the conservative heritage of the Republican Party has been sunk by the power of "fawning right-wing media and outrage-driven fundraising."
As for actually working to pass legislation in the tradition of Reagan, today's Republicans dismiss such efforts. They get more attention by slamming anyone on their side of the aisle trying to make deals with Democrats as a "traitor," Boehner said.
"Reagan used to say something to the effect that if I get 80 or 90 percent of what I want, that's a win. These guys [the 'Tea Party' vintage Republicans who came to Congress after the 2010 midterm elections] ... didn't really want legislative victories. They wanted wedge issues and conspiracies and crusades," Boehner writes.
The former Speaker's description of the Tea Party class of 2010 is even more true of Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), the best-known of what might be called the Trump/QAnon class of 2020.
Boehner's conclusion is that Republicans in Congress are now in the grips of "the crazy caucus," a group he defines as encompassing "garden-variety whack jobs to insurrectionists."
Their lack of conservative principles, Boehner explains, led to the acceptance of Trump's endless conspiracy theories, beginning with the lie that former President Obama was not born in the United States.
And that led to acceptance of the "Big Lie" about the 2020 election being stolen from Trump and, incredibly, Trump's supporters rioting at the Capitol.
Trump "incited that bloody insurrection for nothing more than selfish reasons, perpetuated by the bullshit he'd been shoveling since he lost a fair election," Boehner explained.
The riot should have been "a wake-up call for a return to Republican sanity," Boehner warns. He wants conservatives to revolt and take control of the GOP away from self-promoters who stop both parties from getting anything done in Congress.
The Biden White House has concluded - correctly, I believe - that there is no longer anything to be gained from trying to reason and negotiate with what remains of conservative Republicans.
The right-wing media that Boehner describes as controlling the GOP give Republicans no incentive to work with Biden and applauds them every time they obstruct him.
So why bother wasting time and energy and political capital trying to reason with them when Biden already knows the outcome?
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) gave the game away last week when he said there would be no Senate Republican votes for the infrastructure bill. Full stop.
So Biden is going it alone on the business of governing from COVID-19 relief to infrastructure to voting rights.
Back in February, I wrote in this column that America needs two healthy political parties:
"In fact, it pains me to see the cancerous gang of grifters, white supremacists and conspiracy-theory mad hatters who are killing the party of conservative principles."
The grifters will always find suckers to give them money.
But when it comes to the GOP as a legitimate conservative, governing party, well, the party's over.
Juan Williams is an author, and a political analyst for Fox News Channel.
JAMES SAID:
A white female police officer shoots a black kid point bank in the chest when she only intended to taser him and blacks should not be angry.
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RAT SAID:
Angry at who? Blacks have only themselves to blame. They did a banner job of driving veteran cops from the force, and creating an environment where only the below average and inexperienced/unqualified remain. So a stupid rookie fucks up and kills one of them.
Gee pederast, we never saw THAT coming.
Fucking moron.
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JAMES SAYS:
The person described by rat as a stupid rookie was a 26 year veteran on the force.
Who's the moron?
THWAP!!!
Blogger Roger Amick said...
But pjmedia is still fucking crazy mothrfuckers
The prosecution’s case was spread over 12 days. Attorneys chosen by antifa-friendly Attorney General Keith Ellison
ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Rep. Keith Ellison is drawing criticism for calling attention to a book that condones violence during clashes with white supremacists.
The Democratic congressman posted a photo on Twitter Wednesday of himself posing with the book “Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook.” The book calls violence during “a small though vital sliver of anti-fascist activity.”
Ellison’s post said the book should “strike fear into the heart” of President Donald Trump. It drew pushback from Republicans who have criticized the movement’s at-times violent disruptions of speaking engagements and white supremacist rallies.
At @MoonPalaceBooks and I just found the book that strike fear in the heart of @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/r81nYoeqpL
— Rep. Keith Ellison (@keithellison) January 3, 2018
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/01/04/keith-ellison-antifa/
Ellison tweet on Antifa handbook draws scrutiny
The Democratic congressman posted a photo on Twitter Wednesday of himself posing with the book "Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook."
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/politics/ellison-tweet-on-antifa-handbook-draws-scrutiny/89-504937167
https://files.americanexperiment.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-04-at-12.39.40-PM.png
There's some great reading at politicalwire.com this morning (including some from last night).
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