Tuesday, June 22, 2021

It's not just Manchin that would have to be convinced...

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema: Abolishing filibuster would weaken "democracy's guardrails"
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) defended her opposition to abolishing the 60-vote legislative filibuster in a Washington Post op-ed published Monday night, saying to do so would weaken "democracy's guardrails."
Why it matters: There have been growing calls from Democrats, particularly progressives, to overhaul the rules as the Senate prepares to vote Tuesday on a massive voting rights package. But Sinema writes in her op-ed that if this were to happen "we will lose much more than we gain."

With Joe Manchin getting most of the attention for his stance against the filibuster, Kyrsten Sinema is looking to remind people that she too holds the same stance. According to many, there are at least a handful of other Democrats who more quietly oppose any moves to eliminate the filibuster, but simply do not want to put themselves out there in this sort of political environment. 

Schumer and gang can act tough on this one, but they really do not have the votes. I am quite certain that deep down, Schumer understands this. But playing the media along (who almost seem to want the filibuster gone more than politicians do) seems to be a strategy. Not sure if it is a good strategy or a bad strategy, but Schumer is sort of playing the obstructionist card, possibly hoping to expand a majority under the guise that they need to eliminate the filibuster. 

However, putting the filibuster front and center for the 2022 elections might help draw out their rank and file, it turns off moderates and also ignites the GOP base as well. In fact, I would offer that the enthusiasm from the left (eliminating the filibuster) would be less than the enthusiasm from the right (keeping the filibuster) and also turn off moderates to the Democratic message. 

 

30 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Manchin Won’t Say How He’ll Vote on Voting Rights
June 22, 2021 at 12:06 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 110 Comments
With just a few hours left before the Senate vote on whether to advance voting rights legislation, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) told CNN he’s not made up his mind yet.

Said Manchin:
“We are still waiting to see the final… I gotta make sure we are going to move to a better compromise… Everybody is working on it real good.”

Even though Republicans are poised to filibuster the bill, Democrats are seeking unity in their caucus and Manchin is the sole holdout.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://theintercept.com/2021/06/22/tucker-carlson-january-6-fbi-conspiracy/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

One comment until I discuss the filibuster.


In anticipation of the Senate vote Tuesday evening on the For the People Act, a bill intended to expand voting rights and counter restrictive voting laws pushed by GOP lawmakers, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., denounced Republican efforts to stop the legislation from being passed.

In remarks on the Senate floor Tuesday morning, Schumer said, “Donald Trump, fresh off a resounding loss in the 2020 presidential election, cried foul and lied — lied — that the election was stolen from him, like a petulant child.”

Schumer focused on the former president’s role in the politicization of voting rights, which created Republican opposition that had not previously existed. He described how Act 77, the Pennsylvania law that legalized no-excuse mail-in voting, was passed by a Republican majority in the state Legislature in 2019. A year later, due to Trump’s baseless accusations of voter mail fraud, Republican lawmakers promptly proposed repealing the law.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., talks to reporters at the Capitol on June 15. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

“There is a rot at the center of the modern Republican Party,” Schumer continued. “Donald Trump’s big lie has spread like a cancer and threatens to envelop one of America’s major political parties. Even worse, it has poisoned our democracy, eroded faith in our elections, which is so detrimental to the future faith people need to have in our democracy. And of course, it became the match that lit a wildfire of Republican voter-suppression laws sweeping across the country. Because of one man’s lie, Republicans are now doing the dastardly act of taking away voting from millions of Americans, making it much harder for them to vote, and many, many will not.”



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

comment from SeaFan • 2 hours ago
Regardless of the outcome, Schumer had to force this vote to put pressure on Manchin and Sinema and get them to start talking in substance. It moves the discussion along about reforming the filibuster too.

Both said they don’t want to get rid of it. But neither said they were against reforming it. They need to feel the pressure of the Democratic base.

What’s frustrating? If the GOP were in power don’t think for a second McConnell wouldn’t try to get rid of the filibuster if an ideal situation presented itself. The filibuster will be eliminated anyway. Democrats have a habit of playing too nice.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Democratic Group Will Pour $20M Into Voting Rights
June 22, 2021 at 1:40 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 24 Comments
New York Times:
“The digital effort will include a series of extensive voter information campaigns, going beyond a more traditional approach that would consist solely of persuasion ads. Their overall goal is to help people navigate a new balloting landscape created by the many new restrictions passed by Republicans in at least 16 states.

“The campaigns will also provide voting tools like text message reminders to register to vote or request an absentee ballot."

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Schumer blasts GOP over voting rights bill: 'A rot at the center of the modern Republican Party'
Yahoo News
CHLOE XIANG
June 22, 2021, 12:28 PM
In anticipation of the Senate vote Tuesday evening on the For the People Act, a bill intended to expand voting rights and counter restrictive voting laws pushed by GOP lawmakers, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., denounced Republican efforts to stop the legislation from being passed.


In remarks on the Senate floor Tuesday morning, Schumer said, “Donald Trump, fresh off a resounding loss in the 2020 presidential election, cried foul and lied — lied — that the election was stolen from him, like a petulant child.”

Schumer focused on the former president’s role in the politicization of voting rights, which created Republican opposition that had not previously existed. He described how Act 77, the Pennsylvania law that legalized no-excuse mail-in voting, was passed by a Republican majority in the state Legislature in 2019. A year later, due to Trump’s baseless accusations of voter mail fraud, Republican lawmakers promptly proposed repealing the law.

“There is a rot at the center of the modern Republican Party,” Schumer continued. “Donald Trump’s big lie has spread like a cancer and threatens to envelop one of America’s major political parties. Even worse, it has poisoned our democracy, eroded faith in our elections, which is so detrimental to the future faith people need to have in our democracy. And of course, it became the match that lit a wildfire of Republican voter-suppression laws sweeping across the country. Because of one man’s lie, Republicans are now doing the dastardly act of taking away voting from millions of Americans, making it much harder for them to vote, and many, many will not.”


Schumer launched a similar attack on Trump on Monday, taking to the Senate floor to call him “despicable” for spreading the “big lie” that he did not legitimately lose the 2020 election.

The For the People Act was passed in the House by a Democratic majority in March and now faces unanimous Republican opposition in the Senate. To pass the bill, 10 Republican senators would need to cross party lines to provide the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster and begin debate.

The legislation as it currently stands includes a number of provisions aimed at making it easier for people to vote, such as the expansion of early voting and automatic voter registration for federal elections.

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., has opposed the legislation since it was introduced earlier this year, but said last week that he would support a list of compromise measures, including 15 days of early voting and making Election Day a public holiday. Former President Barack Obama on Monday urged Republicans to back Manchin’s proposal, which he described as “a product of compromise.”

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has already promised that the Republican senators will not budge. “Democrats have made abundantly clear that the real driving force behind S. 1 is a desire to rig the rules of American elections permanently in Democrats’ favor,” McConnell tweeted, referring to the legislation by its bill number. “That’s why the Senate will give this disastrous proposal no quarter.”

NEW DEFINITION OF RIGGING ELECTIONS:
LETTING US THE PEOPLE VOTE.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Manchin will vote yes on bringing the bill to the floor of the Senate

Anonymous said...

The month after month decline in existing home sales is NOT because of inventory.

Inventory has been on the rise.

The three socialist stooges of CHT are economic/fiscal fucktards.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Manchin Will Vote to Advance Voting Rights Bill
June 22, 2021 at 2:41 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 3 Comments
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) he’s reached an agreement with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) where Manchin will vote yes to open debate on the election overhaul bill, CNN reports.

That allows Democrats to stay unified on the bill even though it won’t survive a Republican filibuster.

rrb said...




Predominantly black mob cheers as white woman savagely beaten at Juneteenth ‘celebration’

LONG BRANCH, NJ – A predominantly black mob gathered and cheered as a white woman was savagely beaten as a celebration of the nation’s first federal Juneteenth holiday turned into a riot.

One woman, who was white, was savagely attacked by multiple black men and women. The woman eventually bends down, unable to protect herself as the rioters struck her repeatedly.

Many other rioters stood around the scene, cheering on the attack.

One man can be heard on the video sarcastically shouting, “Say my name” as the woman is beaten. The phrase is a common battle cry for “social justice” protesters.

Eventually, the police arrive and form a ring of protection around the woman.

During the rioting, a bulletin from the Ocean County Scanner warned people to avoid the area:

“Police have area locked down due to riots in the area. Parents are reporting their children are locked in businesses they work in with no way out. Reports of police in riot gear trying to control the scene. Numerous fights involving police, and vandalism. Avoid the area.”

Other videos posted to social media depicted a scene of violence, as rioters ravaged the city, oftentimes standing atop vehicles and dancing.

Police called in reinforcements from surrounding agencies and the state police, and eventually calm was restored to the area. Police have released a number of arrests made during the violence.



https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/black-mob-cheers-as-white-woman-is-savagely-beaten-at-new-jersey-juneteenth-riot/



LOL. Only a goddamned fucking idiot WHITE liberal is stupid enough to go to a crime scene like fucking Juneteenth.

Even the fucking name of the holiday is retarded. Like Kwanzaa.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Republicans may inadvertently help Democrats energize their base by openly discussing the possibility they could name Trump the speaker if they recapture the House majority next year. But mostly Biden has been dampening the sense of threat among Democrats, by focusing far more on displaying his willingness to work with Republicans than on portraying them as either an impediment (through their repeated use of the Senate filibuster to block Democratic ideas) or a danger to small-d democracy (through the wave of restrictive voting measures in the states and their resistance to any new federal voting standards).

Biden so far is wagering that Democrats will be rewarded more for cooperation than confrontation, a strategy that was common in an earlier era when strategists believed persuadable swing voters were the key to electoral success, especially in midterm elections, when far fewer people voted than in the presidential races. Now, though, strategists on both sides tend to believe turning out the base is a more decisive factor, even in midterms.

And that means if Biden's mostly conciliatory approach toward the GOP fails to activate the huge pool of Democratic voters from the past three elections, his party could pay a punishing price in 2022.


And again no Twitter tirades or Facebook jail for years.

rrb said...



YAWN...

The alky-lanche of plagiarism just never ends.

LOL.

Anonymous said...

Never.

He has to use the crutch of cut-n-paste.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Senate Dems secure unity on advancing election reform before GOP blocks it

Senate Republicans plan to block the bill Tuesday evening, which Democrats have characterized as essential to pass before the 2022 midterms.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell walks to the chamber as the Senate prepares for a key test vote later on the For the People Act.By Marianne LeVine and Zach MontellaroJune 22, 2021


Updated: 06/22/2021 02:50 PM EDT

Senate Republicans are set to block Democrats’ sweeping elections and ethics reform bill on Tuesday. Just hours before the vote, Sen. Joe Manchin, the last Democratic holdout, announced he would approve advancing the legislation.

The Senate will vote Tuesday afternoon on whether to consider the legislation, a top priority for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Speaker Nancy Pelosi. With the bill guaranteed to fail, the path forward is murky at best on an issue that Democrats say they need to resolve before the 2022 midterms. While Manchin's vote won't save the bill, the unified Democratic vote will both help the party's political messaging that the GOP is stonewalling them and likely intensify progressives' push to end the filibuster.





C.H. Truth said...

Amazing...

A second Democrat comes out against eliminating the filibuster and Roger comes back with more "opinion pieces" about how the voting rights bill will put an end to the filibuster.

Way to focus here Roger.

Doh!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In 2016 Trump got his base to hate crooked Hillary.

In 2020, Biden is nice guy and even the Sleepy Joe Joe rhetoric didn't motivate enough to vote against Biden.

Right now I think the Democrats are keeping Vice President Harris out of sight, because the same people who hated Obama in the mid term, and of course crooked Hillary isn't on the ballot.

If Biden's mostly conciliatory approach toward the GOP fails to activate the huge pool of independents who voted for against Biden in the last election the party could pay a punishing price in 2022.

The mid terms usually help the opponents.

The Sleepy Joe Biden rhetoric will work against Trump and his party.

Myballs said...

Schumer is having a tantrum because Sinema Just told him to suck it.

Myballs said...

Biden has been conciliatory in words only. His actions have been historically partisan.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, a lot of Democrats don't want to eliminate the filibuster, because if the Republicans reclaim the Congress, they want to block jim Crow era in 2022.

I wish they could reduce the margin to five votes. In an ideal scenario I would get rid of it.

Our Federal Democracy gives minority regions a lot of power. For example each voter in Wyoming has the same power as nine voters in California in the House of representatives.

But we do not have a parliamentary system

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...



If roger ever gets out of his room I found the perfect GPS for him:

https://twitter.com/Shawn_Farash/status/1405847101796462598


this guy is amazing

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ballsless.

Trump was conciliatory and conservative in words only. His actions were historically partisan.

His America First philosophy was an isolationist philosophy.

Every Republican President since Eisenhower rejected the isolationist stance.

If he had won, we would have withdrawn from NATO because we were paying too much

Would you really want the United States an isolationist, no allies???

Anonymous said...

MyballsJune 22, 2021 at 2:41 PM

Schumer is having a tantrum because Sinema Just told him to suck it"

Good.

Anonymous said...

"Way to focus here Roger.

Doh!" CHT

Roger learned to debate on a "stage" in high school.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Myballs said...
Biden has been conciliatory in words only. His actions have been historically partisan.


actually his actions have been historically unAmerican

America Last

Anonymous said...

IF only he was for creating and retaining jobs.

Closing private prisons losses 40,000 jobs and releases 60,000 Federal Violators back on the streets.

Crime is skyrocketing.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

We human beings are primates, and primates are both tribal and hierarchical. We are comfortable with pecking orders, and even if we're not at the top we feel less stressed knowing exactly where we fit in and what's expected of us. We can fight this with CRT education on our dark past and again how we recovered from a slave holding nation, to a non racial government of all the people.

The Republicans want to reverse Reconciliation again.

Our country is at a point where we could lose the American dream.


Anonymous said...

LEO's retirements are up 45%.
Those that can't retire are leaving , up 18%.

And recruitment is at an all time low.

Crime is up , Biden Policies matter.

Anonymous said...

"Our country is at a point where we could lose the American dream."
Cowardly 4F-Alky

Like not owning a home.

God you are an economic fucktard, your ex's found that out the hard way as you put them into poverty.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Right wing nutcase websites asshole


Democrats corral Manchin on election overhaul measure

By Susan Ferrechio

June 22, 2021 - 3:34 PM

anonymous said...

Like not owning a home.


Amusing you say that especially after advocating the fed to raise rates making even more expensive homes move higher....God you are a fucking imbecile!!!!!!!!