Sinema says she is a no go for the 3.5 trillion dollar reconciliation bill
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) said in a statement, “I support many of the goals in this proposal to continue creating jobs, growing American competitiveness, and expanding economic opportunities for Arizonans … I do not support a bill that costs $3.5 trillion.”
The announcement means Democrats will likely need to reduce the scope of the legislation to secure the support of Sinema and her fellow moderate, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.). With the Senate split 50-50, Democrats cannot afford to have a single member of their conference defect if they want to pass a so-called “reconciliation” bill with just 51 votes.
Meanwhile back at the ranch!
So apparently if the Senate is not able to push through the trillions through reconciliation, then the House may not have the votes to pass the "bi-partisan bill" that is being touted in the Senate. It's not something that many people actually think about, but the fact is that it might be just as hard to keep the House members together (maybe harder) than it is to keep the Senate together.
AOC is correct that the Senate and pretty much everyone seems to be taking the House for granted here. But getting this all done may that this will be way harder than presumed. Everyone wants something and some people want less. Fragile seems to be the key term right now in terms of the Democratic "majority".
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Is this the "civil war" dems were screaming about ?
Hadn't heard much about it recently
I thought that was a major event, but apparently it has been cancelled ?
Hard to keep up anymore with the liberal outrages.
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Sinema seems not to care that her own state is flooding, the west is burning, and infrastructure around the country is crumbling. Sinema is more interested in gaining GOP friends and blocking much needed resources, than fighting for her residents' future.
Note AOC's first line in her tweet.
She admits that 'child care and climate action' are NOT infrastructure.
Not intentional I'm sure, but clarifying nonetheless.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1420700244015202304
After the way Dems are viciously attacking Sinema, she must do the right thing:
Register as an independent, and caucus with Republicans
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Note AOC's first line in her tweet.
She admits that 'child care and climate action' are NOT infrastructure.
Not intentional I'm sure, but clarifying nonetheless
Good eye
PHOENIX (AP) — Civil rights leaders, including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and William Barber, were among 39 people arrested Monday after refusing to leave the Phoenix office of Democratic U.S. Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, who has faced unrelenting pressure from liberal activists over her opposition to ending the filibuster to pass voting rights legislation.
Jackson, one of the nation's most prominent civil rights leaders, said the U.S. is in a “civilization crisis” with “battle lines drawn," and he urged activists to fight nonviolently for their rights.
https://news.yahoo.com/jesse-jackson-among-35-arrested-222514949.html
Jackson arrested protesting while saying "battle lines are drawn"
dog whistle for violence ?
Well good to know he's still around
Did his son every get out of jail for his $750,000 fraud conviction ?
like father, like son
Desantis just declared that the Faucian Dystopia will not endure in floriduh because Fauci does not care about people and that mask wearing is taking away your freedom to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! The man is a flaming asshole like Lil Schitty!!!!
BTW Floriduh is #1 with 17 k new infections with 97% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated!!!!!!
I’m not ready to say this week was the beginning of the end of Donald Trump’s grip on the Republican party, but it’s been a really bad week for the former president:
Trump’s favored candidate lost in a Texas special election even after his political action committee pumped another $100,000 into advertising in the final weekend.
Trump’s threat of primary challenges to Republican senators who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure deal did nothing to stop the bill from advancing and 17 Republicans senators defied him.
Trump’s attempt to derail a congressional investigation into the January 6 Capitol riots failed and the first of many months of hearings were devastating.
You are overeating her influence on the bill.
The real drama will happen in the Senate reconciliation procedure.
So far it looks very likely to pass 51-50 will Vice President Harris casting the last vote.
The New York Post is a fucking joke.
The former President Trump infrastructure plan in 2019....
WASHINGTON — At this point in the Trump presidency, “Infrastructure Week” is less a date on the calendar than it is a “Groundhog Day”-style fever dream doomed to be repeated.
Roughly two years after the White House first came up with the idea of discussing, for all of seven days, the pursuit of a bipartisan agreement to rebuild the nation’s roads, bridges and broadband networks, President Trump more or less torpedoed those plans on Wednesday in a Rose Garden speech. In the process, he gave Democrats a helpful sound bite when he said he would not pursue a legislative agenda while under investigation by House committees.
He also gave them another opportunity to charge that Mr. Trump, who has promised to deliver on an infrastructure plan since his first days in office, doesn’t really care about working together on one at all.
“I knew he was looking for a way out,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi told her fellow Democrats who had gathered in the Cabinet Room for the meeting with the president, according to two people familiar with the scene. “We were expecting this.”
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If this all sounds familiar, that’s because it is. Long ago, the political and pundit class began to recognize any mention of infrastructure-themed events as a catchall joke symbolizing any substantive — if pie-in-the-sky — policy objective destined to go nowhere.
During the first Infrastructure Week, in June 2017, White House aides dutifully plugged along with topical messaging, hoping to distract from more pressing controversies, until Mr. Trump closed out a Rose Garden event by accusing James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, of committing perjury in his congressional testimony about the president’s behavior during an investigation into his campaign’s ties to Russia.
“Yesterday showed no collusion, no obstruction,” Mr. Trump said. “He’s a leaker.”
Nearly two years on, Mr. Trump has repeatedly talked about big-dollar plans to help Americans suffering from crumbling infrastructure. Though the plans Mr. Trump has agreed to have only grown more ambitious — the most recent figures put the total package at $2 trillion, doubling his campaign-era promise of $1 trillion — the president had so far avoided specifics about how he would come up with that amount.
Any infrastructure package faced slim-to-none odds on Capitol Hill to begin with, but for a brief moment this spring, something seemed as if it could happen. Democratic congressional leaders emerged from a meeting at the White House in April and announced the president had agreed to pursue the $2 trillion plan.
Instead of mentioning bridges and roads during a Rose Garden speech, Mr. Trump brought up the Mueller investigation.Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times
Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the minority leader, said that there had been “good will” in the meeting and that it was “different than some of the other meetings that we’ve had.” Standing alongside Ms. Pelosi, he said the group planned to meet again in three weeks.
Then came a partisan derailment that had the makings of a disappointing “Game of Thrones” finale — if all of the characters had pledged to work together, only to let the toilets overflow in Westeros. The three-minute meeting prompted Mr. Trump’s latest noninfrastructure speech on Wednesday, in which he accused Ms. Pelosi of saying he was engaged in waylaying House investigations.
He promised to rebuild the infrastructure!
Sleepy Joe Biden is going to get it passed before the August recess.
The New York Post is a fucking joke.
They got the story right on Hunter Biden's laptop. A story that Twitter, Facebook, and tick toc tried to suppress.
The joke is on these social media sites. People are starting to recognize the danger these sites posed to our freedom and natural rights.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/us/politics/trump-infrastructure-week.html?smid=url-share
This is how this President Biden will probably pass it . She's negotiating with the President and the other Democrats.
A key Democrat said Wednesday she will not support a proposed $3.5 trillion spending plan that her party had hoped to ram through the Senate without support from Republicans.
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) said in a statement, “I support many of the goals in this proposal to continue creating jobs, growing American competitiveness, and expanding economic opportunities for Arizonans … I do not support a bill that costs $3.5 trillion.”
And again you believe AOC has that much influence.
Before the end of this year, both bills will pass.
Desantis just declared that the Faucian Dystopia will not endure in floriduh because Fauci does not care about people and that mask wearing is taking away your freedom to die!!!
1. DeSantis is not implementing a statewide order to wear mask. However, this doesn't prevent individual counties from doing so.
However, any county commissioner that votes for mandatory mask wearing can probably kiss his political career goodby.
2. DeSantis strongly encourages Floridians get vaccinated. The best protection against COVID-19 is a vaccine.
3. The CDC mask guidelines are stupid and political and is based on one European study that failed peer review and did even include that is approved in the United States for use. It was use just to get the veneer of science to cover their asses when people started to object. The government really do think the American people are stupid.
If people decide not to get the vaccine then that's their decision. They will have to live with the consequences of that decision.
Washington Examiner reports that neither one will pass..
Former President Donald Trump is not happy with the 17 Senate Republicans who joined with all 50 Democrats last night in voting to begin debate on bipartisan infrastructure legislation.
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And there may well be plenty of good policy reasons to oppose such a bill. Experts from the Right and Left have both identified the National Environmental Policy Act as a major source for delays and cost increases on federally funded projects. And the legislation reportedly doesn’t reform NEPA at all. That’s bad.
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But we also do not know what is in the bill yet because it hasn’t even been written. That's a good enough reason for any Republican to vote no.
But it does appear that the 17 Republican yeses are playing a longer game. Admittedly, their strategy carries some risk, but it appears to be the wiser choice.
By agreeing to begin debate on infrastructure, Republicans have strengthened the ability of centrist Senate Democrats to say “no” to President Joe Biden’s larger and more damaging $3.5 trillion bill.
When constituents ask why they don’t support Biden’s larger spending plan, Democratic Sens. Kyrsten Sinema, of Arizona, and Joe Manchin, of West Virginia, can now say, “Look, I supported a $1.2 trillion bill that actually spent money on roads and bridges. This was bipartisan legislation that funded real infrastructure investments. It’s not my fault Speaker Pelosi chose to kill the bill in the House.”
And that is probably what will end up happening here if the Senate does eventually succeed in writing a bill, debating it, voting on amendments, and then voting for final passage. The bill will go over to the House, where Pelosi will promptly throw it in the trash can as she has already promised she will do.
Pelosi is the only person with enough influence.
She will not throw it in the trash.
She's been playing McCarthy like a toy....
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/in-defense-of-the-17-republicans-who-voted-to-advance-the-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill
You are overeating her influence on the bill.
I am doing what exactly?
And that is probably what will end up happening here if the Senate does eventually succeed in writing a bill, debating it, voting on amendments, and then voting for final passage. The bill will go over to the House, where Pelosi will promptly throw it in the trash can as she has already promised she will do.
Pelosi is the only person with enough influence.
She will not throw it in the trash.
Believe she will do what she said she would do. She has to keep the crazy wing of her party in check.
She's been playing McCarthy like a toy...
And yet it's Biden that get's fucked.
TDS TDS TDS lolololololololololol
But his influence is shrinking slowly now anyhow.
Former President Trump lashed out at Senate Republicans on Thursday after the upper chamber voted to take up debate on a bipartisan infrastructure package, accusing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and “RINOs,” short for "Republicans in name only," of surrendering to Democrats.
“Under the weak leadership of Mitch McConnell, Senate Republicans continue to lose,” Trump said in a statement. “He lost Arizona, he lost Georgia, he ignored Election Fraud and he doesn’t fight.”
McConnell will probably vote yes on the infrastructure bill.
The Democrats might keep the Congress open for another couple days until it passes.
Desantis just declared that the Faucian Dystopia will not endure in floriduh because Fauci does not care about people and that mask wearing is taking away your freedom to die!!!
If someone has the freedom to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.
I think that same someone has the right to exist without a vaccination.
I think it is stupid not to wear a helmet, stupid to not get a vaccination, and I could provide a hundred examples of perfectly legal and dangerous activities that I find stupid.
But we do not criminalize them.
If I recall it correctly, Trump never had much influence on the senators of his party to begin with.
AOC is correct that the Senate and pretty much everyone seems to be taking the House for granted here.
You brought her up..
But the bottom line is that I strongly disagree with you on this case.
Sleepy Joe Biden will call Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) And again negotiate with her. And like it said.
The announcement means Democrats will likely need to reduce the scope of the legislation to secure the support of Sinema and her fellow moderate, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.). With the Senate split 50-50, Democrats cannot afford to have a single member of their conference defect if they want to pass a so-called “reconciliation” bill with just 51 votes.
They will get it done Scott.
NBC Meet the Press said this Scott..
Derailment #3 was the great unknown — that something could happen to the Dems’ fragile majorities. That, for now, has been avoided.
But there are still big fights ahead. The $3.5 trillion reconciliation plan is only a loose outline for now that will take months to fill in. For one thing, there's no guarantee it stays $3.5 trillion, and finding enough revenue and savings to pay for it could be difficult. Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., said in a statement Wednesday that she wanted to spend less (by how much is unclear) drawing a sharp rebuke from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.
Yet so far, Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi have their party on board with passing an infrastructure deal and then voting to advance a major Democrat-only spending deal that includes something for every wing of the party.
The original two-track plan is still on track.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-s-two-track-infrastructure-push-keeps-chugging-along-n1275378
Then go back to the past.
When I first moved to Billings Montana the speed limit on the interstate highway was reasonable and prudent!
It was not unusual to see someone going 95+ on I 90!
I don't agree that requiring masking is an infringement on your actions, because they can protect others from the covid-19 Delta variance.
Five retired Navy SEALS are running for Republican seats in the House of Representatives in a collective effort to get more veterans in Congress.
Retired SEALs Brady Duke (R-Fla.), Derrick Van Orden (R-Wis.), Eli Crane (R-Ariz.), Morgan Luttrell (R-Texas) and Ryan Zinke (R-Mt.) joined Fox News’ Steve Doocy on "Fox & Friends" to discuss why they are running and what they plan to accomplish.
Ryan Zinke, the former interior secretary, plans to address the division in America.
"A lot of my friends say, ‘look, the U.S. is falling apart. It can't be fixed.’ It certainly can be fixed," he said. "There’s no one better in crisis than SEALs Special Forces. We're going to win, and we're going to save America."
When asked why he wants to run for Congress, 14-year military veteran Morgan Luttrell said, "I don’t."
"It's just most certainly out of necessity," Luttrell said. "We have to bring our country back to center. That's why we're all running, because we believe so much in the red, white and blue. "
https://www.foxnews.com/media/navy-seals-running-house-2022-zinke-duke-luttrell-van-orden-crane
I don't agree that requiring masking is an infringement on your actions, because they can protect others from the covid-19 Delta variance.
Actually mask wearing doesn't protect others against the COVID-19 Delta valence and I challenge you to find credible scientific evidence that it does. (ie the garbage study the CDC used to cover their asses is not credible)
Five retired Navy SEALS are running for Republican seats in the House of Representatives in a collective effort to get more veterans in Congress.
Retired SEALs Brady Duke (R-Fla.), Derrick Van Orden (R-Wis.), Eli Crane (R-Ariz.), Morgan Luttrell (R-Texas) and Ryan Zinke (R-Mt.) joined Fox News’ Steve Doocy on "Fox & Friends" to discuss why they are running...
It's sad that patriotic Americans cannot find a home in the Democrat party anymore.
It's been taken over by anti-American leftists.
It is even sadder that the GOP considers a racist fat assed white guy as their leader as the R party shrinks as people come to their senses!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
study the CDC used to cover their asses is not credible)
BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!! Well good for you cramps.....Maybe you can explain why surgeons where masks when opening you up!!!!!! Is it a fashion statement or to protect the patient????????
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