Roughly 3,800 Americans have been evacuated from Afghanistan since July 29, with an estimated 8,000 remaining in the country, an official with direct knowledge of the situation told the Daily Caller on Tuesday. The official told the Caller that it seems “doubtful we are going to bring in 8,000 more Americans” between now and the Aug. 31 deadline.US says about 1,500 citizens remain in Afghanistan
Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Wednesday said about 1,500 Americans remain in Afghanistan and are waiting to be evacuated. Blinken said the U.S. has evacuated 82,300 people, including 4,500 people with U.S. passports, since Aug. 14, the day before the Taliban took Kabul and completed its takeover of Afghanistan.
Meanwhile the US Embassy is still telling Americans to stay away from the airport citing terror threats and such.
So someone here is not telling the truth, and I suspect that it is the Secretary of State in this situation. While the difference between saying 3800 Americans have been evacuated versus 4500 is fairly close considering the timing, the difference between how many citizens are actually there is not reconcilable. Even the the leaked internal numbers (12,000 citizens or so) seem to be underestimating what was originally believed to be there, which was 15,000 at minimum.
But after being told since the beginning of this fiasco that we had 15,000 or more Americans to be evacuated, it seems a rather unseemly slap in the face for a high cabinet member to step up in front of Americans and suggest that we actually only had 6000 Americans (not two or three times that) in Afghanistan. My suspicion is that they have identified another 1500 Americans that they expect to have evacuated by the deadline and that they are glossing over the fact that there are others there that they have not made any arrangements with.
Time will certainly tell if we leave Americans behind and how many we do. But I get a sense that the Biden White House will continue to play Baghdad Bob and simply continue to provide flat out lies to the public when discussing Afghanistan or they will simply attempt to ignore the subject all together. I don't believe we can trust them right now to tell the factual truth.
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Read all my last post in the next thread down as an answer to Ch's (Scott Johnson's) narrow minded focus.
He is part of a media that try to do one party's bidding only, while Democrats are largely supported by a media that, however, is willing to be critical and not tow one line.
See this also:
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Why the Media Is Worse for Biden Than Trump
August 26, 2021 at 9:24 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Jonathan Chait:
“The mainstream media certainly gave Trump harsh and even overtly hostile coverage. But the mainstream media only describes roughly half the media landscape. The other half of the media is a right-wing messaging apparatus that makes no effort to follow traditional journalistic norms.
“Republicans communicate to their base
through a media that functionally operates as part of their party,
while Democrats communicate to their base
through a media that still exerts substantial independence.
“If you want to understand the strange difficulty that Joe Biden’s sane, competent administration has
in yielding measurably higher approval
than Trump’s insane, incompetent presidency,
the asymmetrical relationship between the two parties
and their respective media environments
is the most important place to start.”
Taegan Goddard comments:
'This is perhaps the most important structural asymmetry in American politics today.'
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JAMES SAYS:
In simple words,
the kowtowing media response to Trump is always
"Ja, Mein Herr! Whatever you say,"
while the response to Biden
is more balanced, more critical.
We are especially seeing that most clearly lately.
Joe doesn't know.
Half of the "12% GDP" Roger predicted
Roger why can't Joe match your goal?
😂White House Lowers Economic Growth Forecasts🚨😂
Not the "All-star Economic Team" .
James , excuses don't work.
Joe had it all.and can't deliver.
US Troops being bombed right now.
KansasDim is scared to death that Biden and the Democrats are going to deliver, despite all obstacles.
Ja, Mein Herr
Seig Heil Mr Trump
Ch spraken Ja, Mein Herr Mr. Trump
...bombed right now...
LINK?
Stop lying James.
Please.
James i dont need a link, the bombing happened, just moments ago.
Truth is i want The US Economy to enjoy prosperity.
James, stop.lying about my beliefs.
Very interesting and non partisan.
We didn't understand Afghanistan culture from day one.
Shadi Hamid is a contributing writer at The Atlantic, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and a founding editor of Wisdom of Crowds. He is the author of Islamic Exceptionalism: How the Struggle Over Islam Is Reshaping the World and Temptations of Power.
The united states never understood Afghanistan. American planners thought they knew what the country needed, which was not quite the same as what its people wanted. American policy was guided by fantasies; chief among them was the idea that the Taliban could be eliminated and that an entire culture could be transformed in the process.
In an ideal world, the Taliban wouldn’t exist. But it does exist, and it will exist. Western observers always struggle to understand how groups as ruthless as the Taliban gain legitimacy and popular support. Surely Afghans remember the terror of Taliban rule in the 1990s, when women were whipped if they ventured outside without a burka and adulterers were stoned to death in soccer stadiums. How could those dark days be forgotten?
America saw the Taliban as plainly evil. To deem a group evil is to cast it outside of time and history. But this is a privileged view. Living in a democracy with basic security allows citizens to set their sights higher. They will be disappointed with even a relatively good government precisely because they expect more from it. In failed states and in the midst of civil war, however, the fundamental questions are ones of order and disorder, and how to have more of the former and less of the latter.
The Taliban knew this. After its fall from power in 2001, the group was weak, reeling from devastating air strikes targeting its leaders. But in recent years, it has been gaining ground and establishing deeper roots in local communities. The Taliban was brutal. At the same time, it often provided better governance than the distant and corrupt Afghan central government. Doing a little went a long way.
Afghanistan’s U.S.-backed government didn’t fail just because of the Taliban. It was hobbled from the start by America’s blind spots and biases. The United States saw a strong, centralized authority as the answer to Afghanistan’s problems and backed a constitution that invested the president with sweeping powers.
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We didn't understand Afghanistan culture from day one.
Biden and every single American have to be very aware
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — An explosion went off on Thursday outside the Kabul airport, where thousands of people have gathered to try to flee the country on Western airlift since the Taliban seized power earlier this month. The Pentagon confirmed the blast, with no immediate word on casualties.
Western nations had warned of a possible attack on Kabul’s airport in the waning days of the massive evacuation efforts.
Several countries urged people to avoid the airport, where an official said there was a threat of a suicide bombing. But just days — or even hours for some nations — before the evacuation effort ends, few appeared to heed the call.
Over the last week, the airport has been the scene of some of the most searing images of the chaotic end of America's longest war and the Taliban's takeover, as flight after flight took off carrying those who fear a return to the militants' brutal rule.
Already, some countries have ended their evacuations and begun to withdraw their soldiers and diplomats, signaling the beginning of the end of one of history's largest airlifts. The Taliban have so far honored a pledge not to attack Western forces during the evacuation, but insist the foreign troops must be out by America's self-imposed deadline of Aug. 31.
the bombing happened, just moments ago.
LINK?
Truth is i want The US Economy to enjoy prosperity.
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Not if it's during Biden's administration
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JUST IN: Sources tell
@dlippman
@alexbward
there has been a large explosion at Abbey gate at the Kabul airport
Lara Seligman
@laraseligman
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11m
Two sources say the cause of the explosion was a suicide bomber.
Lara Seligman
@laraseligman
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5m
Explosion rocks Kabul airport as U.S. tries to evacuate thousands
The number of casualties is unclear.
@dlippman
and
@alexbward
Heard from multiple sources on the ground this is true. Mass Casualties
James, i asked nicely.
Stop Lying.
This is the Truth.
Truth is i want The US Economy to enjoy prosperity.
while the response to Biden
is more balanced, more critical.
We are especially seeing that most clearly lately.
Considering Biden's awful failure as president I'd say the media is practically giving him a free pass.
And I thought nobody can be worse than Buchanan.
BREAKING NEWS:
Pentagon: Explosion reported outside Kabul airport amid evacuations
Pentagon Confirms ‘Explosion’ Outside Kabul Airport After Terror Threat Warning
Jamie Ross
Thu, August 26, 2021, 8:49 AM·1 min read
An explosion has rocked the international airport in Kabul just hours after the U.S. military warned of an imminent terror threat.
Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby announced in a tweet Thursday: “We can confirm an explosion outside Kabul airport. Casualties are unclear at this time. We will provide additional details when we can.”
One unnamed U.S. military official told The New York Times that the explosion took place at the main entrance to the airport, known as the Abbey Gate. Three unnamed U.S. officials told CNN that it appears to have been caused by a suicide bomber. The White House confirmed President Joe Biden has been briefed about the ongoing incident.
The explosion happened shortly after U.S. officials urged people to stay away from the airport after they received intelligence suggesting that an attack from an Afghan branch of Islamic State was imminent.
An advisory from the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan urged American citizens who were at the airport to “leave immediately” on Wednesday due to “security threats.”
Hamid Karzai International Airport is where thousands of evacuees have flocked to in the hope of fleeing from Taliban rule.
More to follow...
Stop hoping Biden fails and stop gloating over casualties.
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — An explosion went off on Thursday outside the Kabul airport, where thousands of people have gathered to try to flee the country on Western airlift since the Taliban seized power earlier this month. The Pentagon confirmed the blast, with no immediate word on casualties.
Wonder if this was bless by the Taliban. It would be strange if they did since the first thing a ruler must do is restore order.
Even CNN commentators
(CNN)A grave and specific ISIS terror threat is hanging over the frantic endgame of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan with time fast running out to rescue up to 1,500 Americans and the fate of fleeing Afghans looking darker by the hour.
President Joe Biden is so far sticking to his Tuesday deadline for the final exit from a 20-year war in Afghanistan, after an initially chaotic drawdown that has since evolved into a mammoth and daring airlift of more than 95,700 people out of Kabul -- with more than 13,400 people evacuated in the last 24 hours on US and coalition flights, according to the White House.
But in an alarming sign of the deteriorating security environment, there was an explosion at the Kabul airport on Thursday, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby confirmed. One US official said there are injuries amongst the Afghans, but there is no information yet on any US injuries.
Earlier Thursday local time, US diplomats in Kabul suddenly warned American citizens to "immediately" leave several gates into the airport, citing security threats.
The warning came hours after a US defense official had told CNN that officials were alarmed by a "very specific threat stream" about the ISIS affiliate in Afghanistan, which planned to attack crowds outside the airfield.
Inside, thousands of troops are braving testing conditions and intense heat to fill cargo aircraft with US citizens and Afghans who helped American troops and officials and fear gruesome punishment by the Taliban.
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The question now is how long the Pentagon will give the evacuation operation before it transitions to a mission to extract thousands of troops and materiel, which could take several days and curtail the departures of noncombatants.
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Quit hoping that more people die so you can keep accusing the President of failing..
James thanks
Stop hoping Biden fails and stop gloating over casualties.
3 US Troops injuried , by the bombing.
Roger, stop being a cry baby.
Imo the President has to change his mind about the August 31st deadline.
Unreadable projections
"Stop hoping Biden fails and stop gloating over casualties." Roger
https://news.yahoo.com/france-stop-kabul-airport-evacuations-065021850.html
An explosion went off Thursday outside Kabul's airport, where thousands of people have flocked as they try to flee the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan. Suspic...
Military is not a toy.
Biden is acting like it is.
God help Joe.
Quit hoping that more people die so you can keep accusing the President of failing..
You mean like you hoping more Floridians die of Covid so you can keep accusing DeSantis of failing, alky???
HACK, HACK, HACK.
COMMONSENSE:
"Wonder if this was bless by the Taliban."
Wonder if this was blessED by the Taliban.
rrb:
You mean like you hoping more Floridians die of Covid so you can keep accusing DeSantis of failing, alky???
James:
No, we just keep hoping that by telling the truth, Republicans will start puptting people's lives and well being ahead of their crassly partisan, uncaring Trump-style politics.
putting
The grammatician makes a grammatical error.
Large Explosion at Kabul Airport
August 26, 2021 at 9:47 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Sources tell Politico — and the Pentagon confirms — that there has been a large explosion at Abbey gate at the Kabul airport.
New York Times: “Early reports indicated that the explosion was caused by at least one suicide bomber wearing an explosive vest. It was unclear how many people were injured or whether anyone was killed, but large crowds have been gathering at the gate in recent days.”
Wall Street Journal:
“An Afghan man who was on the edge of the crowd, near the Baron camp adjacent to the airport, said the explosion occurred in the middle of thousands of people. He said he saw many maimed, bloodied people being brought out and was told of many fatalities.“
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At least this will show Aghanis they should distrust and resist the Taliban.
Stop.being so ugly James.
"crassly partisan, uncaring Trump-style politics."
Unnecessary
The grammatician makes a grammatical error.
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Nope. That is called a typo.
Taliban is not keeping their word, They are not waiting for August 31.
"crassly partisan, uncaring Trump-style politics."
Unnecessary
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Then stop doing it.
Biden will say it's unexpected.
Biden will say we will respond strongly if we have to.
There was a second bomb detonated outside a hotel where Americans gather to wait for evacuation.
...crassly partisan, uncaring Trump-style politics.
Otherwise known as the freedoms and liberties codified in our Constitution and Bill of Rights that are now under threat from the left.
Your words james.
"JamesNewLeaf August 26, 2021 at 9:43 AM
"crassly partisan, uncaring Trump-style politics."
Unnecessary
Challenge for the rest of this Day James stop.
Be the best person you know how to be.
Biden will say we will respond strongly if we have to.
No, he will say he sent a strongly worded complaint to the Taliban.
I will now return to ignoring Kansa Dim's worthless comments.
The pederast and the alky cannot comprehend this.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin
Same goes for Commonsenseless.
That a promise?
"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
--Thomas Jefferson, incribed in the Jefferson Memorial rotunda in Washington, DC.
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rrb doesn't realize that Jefferson was directing those words specifically against the extremist right wing religious bigots who were opposing his policies and his presidency.
Never thought of the Federalist Party of John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, and George Washington as religious bigots.
This is the best person James is capable of being.
"
I will now return to ignoring Kansa Dim's worthless comments".
The explosion was not the Taliban militants and unknown militants perhaps ISIS fighters
Casualties included American people
Another bomb exploded in a hotel near the airport
NBC has the best coverage
Kabul airport was hit by an explosion Thursday, throwing evacuation efforts into more turmoil days before President Joe Biden's deadline for all U.S. forces to withdraw from the country.
“We can confirm that the explosion near the Abbey Gate of the Kabul airport has resulted in an unknown number of casualties,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said on Twitter.
Biden was briefed on the blast.
While it was immediately unclear who or what was behind the explosion, two U.S. intelligence officials said the assumption is that the suspected IED attack was caused by the Islamic State group's Afghan affiliate, ISIS-K.
Islamic State group's Afghan affiliate, ISIS-K opposed the Taliban militants
There is a civil war within the militia groups
The explosion was not the Taliban militants and unknown militants perhaps ISIS fighters
ISIS is under Taliban protection.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/high-threat-terror-attack-disrupts-kabul-airport-evacuations-biden-deadline-n1277670
Not anymore. I have done research on it
The current Taliban militants are trying to establish a government, it's different than when they were fighting against the United States and our allies.
Islamic State group's Afghan affiliate, ISIS-K.
Is a splinter group.
It's on the news coverage now
It killed at least 13 people including children
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Not anymore. I have done research on it
Joy Reid's twitter account and Kevin Drum's blog count as "research" now.
LOL.
They need to extend the deadline. In my opinion.
In an alert issued after the blast on Thursday, the U.S. Embassy in Kabul again urged Americans not to travel to the area.
"There has been a large explosion at the airport, and there are reports of gunfire. U.S. citizens should avoid traveling to the airport and avoid airport gates at this time," it said.
U.K. Armed Forces Minister James Heappey told NBC News’ U.K. partner Sky News earlier Thursday that an "imminent, lethal attack" could happen at Kabul airport in a matter of hours.
Australia also urged its citizens to stay away from the airport, warning of a "very high threat of a terrorist attack" at the airport.
Kabul airport has been a flashpoint for chaotic scenes and security fears since the Taliban took control of Afghanistan's capital Aug.15.
Security threat leads to new chaos at Kabul airport
Over the weekend, U.S. defense officials warned about specific threats against those trying to leave Afghanistan.
Biden has also warned about the risk of attack from ISIS-K, known as Islamic State Khorasan (ISIS-K) after an old name for the region.
NBC news said that they want a more crazy sharia law enforcement.
Neither one Jimmy Hitler
At least 3 American people were injured
Blogger Roger Amick said...
It killed at least 13 people including children
Fuck.
If only they were Floridians who died of Covid, eh alky?
The problem is they all have one common enemy.
Roger please get it.
They are not against each other, they hate the West.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-louisiana-trooper-beating-black-motorist-flashlight-n1277661
This will trigger an ejection
Biden Suspends air lifts.
Joe stop jo jo'ing the US Military.
It appears that the Taliban is trying to establish a government. Not an armed rebellion against the Afghan government and the United States.
There are several groups including rapists and murderers.
I'm not using my political bias, I'm trying to figure out Thecoldheartedtruth about this current situation.
Bidens orders in Afghanistan are not a "Black Swan Event ".
When I said before that it is a fluid situation, but the current events prove that I am not a demented assisted living old man.
A senior Taliban commander said Thursday that they had issued an alert to their top leadership on the threat posed by ISIS-K.
The group arrested an ISIS terrorist at the airport a few days ago who told them about the network and their plans, he said, speaking on condition of anonymity and without elaborating.
The group's fighters are in control of the roads and multiple checkpoints leading to the airport, where they have used force to control crowds since seizing control.
There were concerns about the lack of a formal screening process and the possibility of a suicide bomber mixing in with the thousands desperately waiting for a chance to escape.
Belgian Prime Minister Alexander De Croo said his country had been warned about just that kind of attack.
“We received information at the military level from the United States, but also from other countries, that there were indications that there was a threat of suicide attacks on the mass of people,” he said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/high-threat-terror-attack-disrupts-kabul-airport-evacuations-biden-deadline-n1277670
Joe is playing Jo -Jo with the US Military.
I told you idiots about this
A senior Taliban commander said Thursday that they had issued an alert to their top leadership on the threat posed by ISIS-K.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/high-threat-terror-attack-disrupts-kabul-airport-evacuations-biden-deadline-n1277670
And instead of looking up information about the fluid situation you call me alky etc.
Go fuck yourselves kputz Jimmy Hitler Jr.
Glenn Beck has raised $30 million dollars and moved 5,100 people out of Afghanistan in the last week.
Where are the "for the children" leftist?
Hollywood did what ?
Blogger Roger Amick said...
It appears that the Taliban is trying to establish a government. Not an armed rebellion against the Afghan government and the United States.
Yeah, that's it alky.
They're really just misunderstood.
Kumbaya.
Carry on.
Gen. Miley Vanilla has an outreach program ?
Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
Gen. Miley Vanilla has an outreach program ?
I guess.
Personally I would prefer a massive wholesale slaughter of all the Tally-Bon, ISIS-Special K, and Al Qaeda ragheads within 500 miles of Kabul, but that's just me.
Now that the suicide bombers have showed up it's time for Jen Psucky to call a lid, and quick!
Biden and jen suckie wants full credit in Afghanistan.
Sure. You got it.
The group's fighters are in control of the roads and multiple checkpoints leading to the airport, where they have used force to control crowds since seizing control.
ISIS has control of the access roads to Kabul airport? We need to surge troops to secure the airport and access points,
We also need to take control of Bagram air base to resume air operations against the terrorist.
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