Tuesday, August 31, 2021

Vaccines are proving less effective than originally thought.

COVID-19 live updates: Vaccine protection against hospitalization is dropping slightly, CDC says
The COVID-19 vaccines' ability to keep people out of the hospital appears to be dropping slightly, particularly for those 75 and older, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Monday during an advisory panel.  The latest CDC analysis estimates that the ability of the COVID vaccines to keep a person out of the hospital is now between 75% to 95%.
Just 61.2% of Americans ages 12 and up are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

So this quickly went from something that was nearly foolproof (like Biden's plan) to something that is 75-95 percent successful in keeping you out of the hospital. Keeping in mind that the vast majority of even the unvaccinated do not go to the Hospital and the fatality rates are still in the low tenths of a percent among those who get it. So those numbers are hard to actually read. 

If they are saying that in comparison to an unvaccinated person, it would between 75-95 percent of those hospitalizations (which I suspect it means) - then it's still a wise choice to take the vaccination. But if that number becomes closer to 75% than 95% and continues to drop, then the vaccine will not have lived up to the promises. 

Lastly, the article states that "just" 61.2% of the population eligible for the vaccine are vaccinated. That is actually not that far off from the original 70% that Dr Fauci determined would bring us herd immunity. Perhaps the last 8.8% will really make all the difference in the world, but I suspect once we get to 70% - they will ask for 80% - then they will ask for 90% - etc... etc... etc...  

10 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ch, I remember long ago when you and your wife were in Portland, and you were laughing at some young people you met who were telling you that the virus was something to be genuinely concerned about and you were saying that you and your wife would just go on eating at restaurants and not taking it seriously, for it was just like a form of the flu, the Trump line.

You were proved wrong on that. And HOW!

And although you once had a rational attitude toward global warming, you have suppressed that in service to Trump's wayward anti environmentalism.

And although you know that Hispanics should be teated decently because for years we lured them into the country by paying them illegal wages which kept farm expenses down, you now want to act as if we have no responsiblity toward them or their "dreamer" children at all.

And although you once agreed with me that the United Methodist church's position on abortion was "reasonable," it has been a long time since you expressed an opinion that might offend the Trumpster propaganda line on that issue.

And although you know that we can never have greater income fairness in our land unless we adopt a progressive system of taxing, you never condemned Trump for not fulfilling his campaign promise to tax the rich more because, he said, they "should" pay more in taxes.

And now you tow the GOP line on Afghanistan which is to be critical of Biden actually getting done what Trump said we should do, by pretending that Trump would have done a better job of getting us out, which is highly doubtful.

You have been wrong on every major issue, yet your forge on with your dishonest hosting of this dishonest blog.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And why, instead of being negative in your critical thread article, don't you encourage this:

Vaccine Hesitancy Drops Amid Delta Surge
August 31, 2021 at 8:53 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

A new Axios-Ipsos poll finds vaccine hesitancy in the U.S. is showing signs of crumbling.

“Fewer adults than ever now say they won’t take the shot, and in the past two weeks there has been a sharp increase in the share of parents who plan to get their younger kids vaccinated as soon as it’s allowed.

“The 20% who say they’re either not very likely (6%) or not at all likely (14%) comprise a new low in the survey, and down from a combined 34% in March and 23% two weeks ago.”

C.H. Truth said...

Ch, I remember long ago when you and your wife were in Portland,

My wife and I have never been together in Portland.

And it is true that we had dinner on the night before the lockdowns because we did not know how long things would last. I also recall having several conversations with retailers around Pikes place who had differing opinions on the idea that everything was getting locked down.

Some were on board and some were not. The entire United States at the time had under 100 nationally. Some thought this was going to be the next black plague while others were more concerned that they would be driven out of business over nothing.


As you should know, my wife (who you continue to forget is even Asian) has preexisting conditions and there is probably nobody I know who has taken this more seriously. She masks, she socially distances, she was one of the first in line to get the vaccination and I was shortly behind in getting my vaccination.


Not sure what your point is Reverend...

Other than our entire country locked down for months, wore masks for months, and over 60% of our adult population has been vaccinated and 650,000 people died anyways. So it doesn't seem like we can exactly be self congratulatory over how well our response has been and the jury should still be out on how effective all of our restrictions have been. Maybe twice as many people would have died or maybe (like Sweden) we would be better off "now" had we not done what we did then.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He has a narcissistic personality disorder. That explains his descent into insanity.

The only reason I am still here is to post the real coldheartedtruth on this blog.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Funny how you keep harping on Sweden whose experts now generally agree they made mistakes they should not have made, which has put them in worse shape than their other Nordic neighbors.

Oh, but I will agree we should not be self congratualatory, what with so many of us believing and still sheepishly following a former President who out and out lied both about the severity of the virus and then later admitted he had lied to avoid "panic."

anonymous said...

Scum bucket Lil Schitty now spreading his views that taking the vax is stupid!!!!!!! Wow.....maybe he should join the MAGA boys and refuse to vax because they want death over well being.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Your crusade of lock downs and masks don't work is most distressing!!! Yep....650 k died from lack of leadership and just about all deaths now are 99% preventable.....can't fix your kind of stupid Lil Schittty.....your mind is shot to shit from fucking your brains out with your child bride!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The ultra libertarian views have led to a resistance to vaccine injection has caused thousands of lives in the United States and Brazil

anonymous said...

arping on Sweden whose experts now generally agree they made mistakes they should not have made, which has put them in worse shape than their other Nordic neighbors.


James, you are 10000000% correct in that post.....He posted some cherry picked statistics that prove that first he was biased and secondly was wrong.....As a matter of fact, I posted from an article which included the words of a swediah official confirming what you said......Lil Schitty that posted his guano and disallpered like the chicken he shows us he is!!!!!! Facts do not matter to the right anymore....they are just impediments to their opinions!!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Sure...

Let's "cherry pick" this number.

Sweden (with a population of around 12 million) has had 22 deaths so far in August. That would be less than one death a day.

So I think I will stand by that cherry picked number as evidence that they are doing a tad bit better than we are right now.

anonymous said...

Let's "cherry pick" this number.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Now we have lies, damn lies and Lil Schitty lies!!!! Too funny!!!! Nothing like comparing oranges and tennis sneaker to make s stupid point.....YOU LOSE!!!!!!! Yep, they do exceptionally well for a small country!!!!!!!