Tuesday, August 31, 2021

The difference between a liberal and a Democrat

I know several genuine liberals and then I know quite a few Democrats. Obviously one can be both, but at the end of the day there is a difference between someone who is at the core "liberal" versus someone who is at the core a "Democrat". 

The current situation in Afghanistan is a perfect example. I have had discussions with some people whom I consider liberal. In some cases extremely liberal (such as my wife). On the flip side we have all seen the discussions here on this board from people who are pretty much 100% full on Democrats. 

The difference between the two discussions are night and day. 

For instance, during a discussion with someone who would rather gouge their own eyes out than vote for 99% of Republicans, the concept that our Government killed terrorists (rather than just a random family) was literally laughable. As in there was chuckles involved as this ultra-liberal suggested that you would be an idiot to trust what the government is telling us right now in Afghanistan. The idea that this drone attack was likely a major fuckup was a perfectly acceptable conclusion to this particular ultra-liberal, because as a liberal (rather than a Democrat) they feel absolutely zero need to "defend" the actions of the President just because he happens to be a Democrat. 

Because neither of us have any stake in defending Biden or the Administration in general, we both are able to simply look at the facts as they exist and draw an open and honest conclusion based on those facts (not just what we are told). In fact, what we are being told is almost irrelevant. As a child of the 60s and 70s, trust me when I say that a true liberal always has a bit of distrust for the Government (no matter who is in charge) and generally wants to draw their own conclusions. 

In fact, the real time concept that what is happening on the ground (in general) is a total disaster was not an argument (because it shouldn't be) but rather just a precursor to a more philosophical discussion on what we have been doing there and what ultimately we should be doing in these situations. It's amazing how much better and more informative these discussions are when it's not partisan and not everything is about trying to compare Biden to Trump. At the core, the Afghanistan situation should be about 95% about our foreign policy and philosophies in general and maybe 5%  about Biden's ability to handle a crisis and whether Trump would have done better.

I can have these discussions with true liberals, because they stand behind core principles and core beliefs not partisanship and politicians. With a Democrat you can never get past the partisanship and loyalty to Party to ever get to a point where there is a real discussion about much of anything. It always crumbles into blind partisanship, bias confirmation, and cognitive dissonance...  and almost inevitably slides into the abyss of personal attacks and name calling. 


62 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ch thinks we should have begun attacking Biden or our military because a drone attack on terrorists who might have killed another 200 or more Afghani men, women, and children at the airport resulted in the very tragic deaths of an extended innocent Afghani family who happened to be nearby in the open when the drone hit.

It was indeed VERY tragic, but not as tragic as what the terrorists might have achieved if they had not been killed.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Does Ch find my comment above excessivly partisan?And if so, how and why?

rrb said...



With a Democrat you can never get past the partisanship and loyalty to Party to ever get to a point where there is a real discussion about much of anything.


Note the reactions of our resident "democrats" around here.

All they care about is the shortness of the average American's memory, and just how quickly they can be counted on to forget the whole Afghanistan surrender, and how it affects Biden's political prospects going forward.

Party politics before country; without fail every single goddamned time.

Over the coming days, weeks, and months Americans trapped in Afghanistan will be viciously murdered in the most heinous ways, and all democrats will care about will be the political 'optics.' So look for the MSM to suppress those stories as much as they can.



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I repeat what I asked Ch above.

rrb said...




So the last acts included Biden hurling a drone strike that succeeded in taking out a hapless Afghani family, small children among them, the abandonment of an unknown number, possibly hundreds or even thousands, of desperate American citizens to barbaric, dark age Islamic animals that the junta in DC are actually blaming for their predicament. There is even a report that our military actually blocked citizens from even entering the airport.

Then, along with billions of dollars of weaponry and other military gear gifted to these bloodthirsty terrorists, to add insult to injury, the demented, criminal buffoon who the Democrat Party - aided and abetted by the highest echelons of the US military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies - rigged a national election to install as "president" acted like a cold, disinterested fish to the families of the US servicemen he had a direct hand in killing through his criminally irresponsible dereliction of duty as commander in chief.



http://ace.mu.nu/archives/395419.php


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I repeat what I asked Ch above.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And now I would like to add another question:

Ch, do you find rrb's posts to be excessively partisan?

Myballs said...

I would suggest James comment us excessively partisan because he begi s it "coldheart thinks...". By doingg this, you are instantly inserting your own rhetoric into his beliefs and commentary. This is a common partisan tactic. If you phrased it as a question, it then becomes more intelligent debate.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I asked Ch.

rrb said...

Anonymous Myballs said...

I would suggest James comment us excessively partisan because he begi s it "coldheart thinks...".



Drunkard roger pulls the same shit, thinking he's being intelligent when telling CH and I what we "think." It's lame psychological projection by a shallow thinker who's trapped in a nursing facility with literally nothing better to do all day, every day.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I asked Ch.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ch, I'm sure your ultra liberal wife would be interested in your answer.

So why is it not forthcoming?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I must leave now, but will return sometime in the future to see what kind of answer Ch has offered, if any.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

When I have discussed issues with CH for almost 20 years now
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 It always crumbles into blind partisanship, bias confirmation, and cognitive dissonance...  and almost inevitably slides into the abyss of personal attacks and name calling. 


Nursing home old TDS infected liberal Democrat.


Scott, look in a mirror and look yourself in the eye!




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

An example from rrb


It always crumbles into blind partisanship, bias confirmation, and cognitive dissonance...  and almost inevitably slides into the abyss of personal attacks and by rrb


Drunkard roger pulls the same shit, thinking he's being intelligent when telling CH and I what we "think." It's lame psychological projection by a shallow thinker who's trapped in a nursing facility with literally nothing better to do all day, every day.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott if you return to normality on Thecoldheartedtruth I will be impressed. Especially if you ask rrb to quit being the biggest asshole iv ever met online.

rrb said...



LOL @ the alky.

He's actually under the delusion that any of us besides the pederast and BWAA cares about what he thinks.

Scott if you return to normality on Thecoldheartedtruth I will be impressed.


Hey piss-drunk asshole, no one cares. Affirmation from fucking failure like you has an absolute value of fucking ZERO.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sweden’s low COVID-19 death tally in July ignores other markers of pandemic’s toll

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

Sweden, which went light on restrictions to manage the pandemic, recorded a small number of COVID-19 deaths in July 2021.

But Sweden’s death rate is more than twice as high as it was 10 months earlier and is higher than its neighbors’. Infections are on the rise.

See the sources for this fact-check

From the onset of the coronavirus pandemic, Sweden made itself a compelling case study, forgoing lockdowns and mandates,  keeping its society largely open — and prompting claims that it was faring better with COVID-19 than the United States.

Early on, we found such statements were overstated. Now, nearly a year and a half later, as the virus’ delta variant spikes cases, the claims have reemerged.

One widely shared on Facebook came from Steve Deace, the host of a show on the conservative Blaze TV streaming network. He has promoted Sweden’s approach as better than the United States’.

Alluding to the 27-nation European Union, which includes Sweden, Deace wrote: 

"In the month of July, Sweden recorded a grand total of 9 deaths with Covid in a nation of over 10 million. Lowest mask compliance in EU, least locked down country in EU from beginning, and just 41% fully vaccinated. Also codes Covid deaths similar to how we do."

Deace’s post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

The post has a point in terms of its characterization of Sweden’s response to the pandemic, its vaccination rate and a relatively small number of COVID-19 deaths in July.

But cherry picking one statistic — the raw number of deaths in a single month — leaves a misleading impression of conditions and trends in Sweden.

Asked whether he was implying that there is a connection between the July deaths and Sweden’s low vaccination rates, relaxed lockdown rules and low mask compliance, Deace told us: "I actually trust readers to draw their own conclusions from the data."

How Sweden is different

In contrast to some of its neighbors and the U.S., Sweden’s society has remained largely open during the pandemic, as the government responded mostly with guidelines, not stay-at-home orders and quarantines. Masks generally were not recommended.

In April 2020, in the weeks after the outbreak was declared a pandemic, we looked at two claims that touted Sweden’s more hands-off approach as superior to lockdown policies imposed in Europe and the U.S. We found that infection rate cited in one of these claims was not a reliable indicator of how a country was doing, given that it depended on how much testing was being done; and that Sweden’s COVID-19 death rate was higher than two of its neighbors. 

As of Aug. 4, 42% of Sweden’s population was fully vaccinated; that compares with 49% in the U.S. and 50% in the EU, according to Our World in Data. Sweden’s guidelines emphasize staying at home, testing, hand washing and social distancing.

We found Sweden’s COVID-19 death counts for July 2021 a bit higher than the nine the post claims. Sweden had a cumulative 14,630 COVID-19 deaths as of July 1, 2021, and 14,655 on July 31 — an increase of 25, according to Our World in Data. 

Half false and cherry picking.

August 2nd

rrb said...



And here comes the obligatory alky-lanche of off-topic plagiarisms from our resident alcoholic asshat.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/06/steve-deace/swedens-low-covid-19-death-tally-july-ignores-othe/

The cherry picking exposed here.


Sweden, which went light on restrictions to manage the pandemic, recorded a small number of COVID-19 deaths in July 2021.

But Sweden’s death rate is more than twice as high as it was 10 months earlier and is higher than its neighbors’. Infections are on the rise.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In response to this post Scott Johnson Thecoldheartedtruth

And now I would like to add another question:

Ch, do you find rrb's posts to be excessively partisan?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ot but very important.

NEW YORK (Reuters) -The number of hate crimes in the United States rose last year to the highest level in more than a decade, driven by a rise in assaults targeting Black victims and victims of Asian descent, the FBI reported on Monday.

The 2020 data, submitted to the FBI by more than 15,000 law enforcement agencies across the country, identified 7,759 hate-crimes in 2020, a 6% increase over 2019 and the highest tally since 2008.

The FBI data showed the number of offenses targeting Blacks rose to 2,755 from 1,930 and incidents against Asians jumped to 274 from 158.

Of the 7,426 hate crime offenses classified as crimes against people, as opposed to crimes against property, 53.4% were for intimidation, 27.6% were for simple assault and 18.1% were for aggravated assault. Twenty-two murders and 19 rapes were reported as hate crimes.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“Preventing and responding to hate crimes and hate incidents is one of the Justice Department’s highest priorities," U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement. "The FBI Hate Crime Statistics for 2020 demonstrates the urgent need for a comprehensive response."

The Justice Department has warned that white supremacist groups represent a rising security threat after the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol.

At the same time, reports of hate-inspired attacks on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders have also been on the rise, spurred by what many say were then-President Donald Trump's inflammatory remarks blaming the COVID-19 pandemic on China.

In May, Garland outlined new steps to help state and local police track and investigate hate crimes, which historically have been an under-reported crime to the FBI by local law enforcement, and called for the department to expedite the review of possible hate crimes.

A hate crimes bill to combat violence against Asian Americans passed the U.S. Senate in April with overwhelming bipartisan support.

The measure designated a Justice Department employee to expedite a review of hate crimes reported to police during the COVID-19 pandemic.

(Reporting by Jan Wolfe; Editing by Scott Malone, David Gregorio and Jonathan Oatis)

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://news.yahoo.com/hate-crimes-hit-12-high-175025322.html

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

NEW YORK (Reuters) -The number of hate crimes in the United States rose last year to the highest level in more than a decade, driven by a rise in assaults targeting Black victims and victims of Asian descent, the FBI reported on Monday.

The 2020 data, submitted to the FBI by more than 15,000 law enforcement agencies across the country, identified 7,759 hate-crimes in 2020, a 6% increase over 2019 and the highest tally since 2008.

The FBI data showed the number of offenses targeting Blacks rose to 2,755 from 1,930 and incidents against Asians jumped to 274 from 158.

Of the 7,426 hate crime offenses classified as crimes against people, as opposed to crimes against property, 53.4% were for intimidation, 27.6% were for simple assault and 18.1% were for aggravated assault. Twenty-two murders and 19 rapes were reported as hate crimes.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The right wing terrorists pose a higher threat than the ISIS-K terrorists in Africa or so many other nations.

The President has to pay more attention to this than the end of the longest war in history

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Afghanistan

rrb said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

The right wing terrorists pose a higher threat than the ISIS-K terrorists in Africa or so many other nations.



If you wonder why I mercilessly mock you alky, it's because of absurd statements like this.

FBI Agent: "Mission is to kill the governor"

How desperate was the FBI to entrap those in the plot against Gov Whitmer?


As we previously discussed, the FBI – by way of its informants – has been credibly accused of conceiving the idea to attack/kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

New text messages (that were recently filed with the court along with a supplement to defendants’ motion to compel - all available here) show conversations between an FBI Agent and his confidential informant proving that the FBI Agent sought to instigate a plot to kill Governor Whitmer.


https://technofog.substack.com/p/fbi-agent-mission-is-to-kill-the?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMDI3OTk0OCwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDA2NzEzNzEsIl8iOiJEYXU0KyIsImlhdCI6MTYzMDM0MDkxMiwiZXhwIjoxNjMwMzQ0NTEyLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMjc0NzcxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.f73eHxF252IbD3H785IEakAN9ccrPI2kqn2HMiw_Bik


Right wing terrorism is a construct by none other than our own Famous But Incompetent assholes.

Fucking traitors. Fire them all and donate their pensions to the families of our fallen soldiers.


C.H. Truth said...

Reverend...

Not a single "liberal" (not even my wife) that I have spoken to believes that the drone attack actually successfully killed any terrorists.

The reason. Because there is no actual evidence that it did. The evidence and eyewitness accounts said that the bomb hit cars and a house belonging to just a family.

Again... YOU AS A DEMOCRAT believe whatever you are told by Biden.

The liberals I know are skeptical of anything the Government tells us, especially as it pertains to military. Most liberals (true liberals) are distrustful of the military and are apt to believe that it is largely misused for our own power purposes.

So when a LIBERAL DISTRUSTS THE MILITARY and what the military says to them, it's easy for A LIBERAL to be skeptical of this situation.

A LIBERAL does not suddenly become trusting of the military and Government the second a Democrat is elected.

That is the difference Reverend. Your trust is in Biden and Democrats. Your overall trust of foreign diplomacy, the military, etc... is fluid depending on who is in office.

Those of us who are tied to a philosophy and ideals rather than politicians will simply see things differently.


It may be literally IMPOSSIBLE for you to get past yourself and understand any of this.

C.H. Truth said...

Ch, do you find rrb's posts to be excessively partisan?

I've been watching Rat post for 20 years now... he has attacked both Republicans and Democrats when he disagrees with them. He is an equal opportunity Rat bastard.

Is he harder on Democrats? Absolutely. But his own personal conservative principles are probably such that he agrees with Republicans much of the time, Democrats almost never, and neither side a reasonable amount of time.


You seem to think "partisanship" is someone who attacks the other Party. It's actually more about the consistency of putting Party above principles and actually being willing to not just allow your principles to constantly change when your Party decides for you that they should.

rrb said...

Statement from national security analyst Gen. B.B. Bell, U.S. Army (Ret.), on the military exfil from Afghanistan:

The admission by the United States Central Command Commander, General Kenneth McKenzie, that all U.S. forces have departed Afghanistan and that on departure they left American citizens behind who wanted to be rescued is the single most dishonorable act by my country that I have witnessed since my first day of military service on 5 June 1969. America has abandoned its citizens behind enemy lines and surrendered their fates to radical Islamic extremists. The United States has broken the most fundamental commitment of trust, safety, and security that I always believed was sacrosanct during my 39 years in the military. I was wrong. Today I am ashamed of my country. I am ashamed of my country's political leadership. I am ashamed of our military leadership. Today, in my heart, America died. I hang my head in shame. I'm so very sorry for those Americans and our Afghan allies we have abandoned. May God protect them as we have not.






Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I saw and posted a video of the place where we killed two ISIS-K members, showing clearly that the secondary explosion had completely destroyed the vehicle. Because it came from NBC news you refused to believe it.

You are spreading false information Scott.

You are acting exactly like the fascist era in the 1920s until Adolf Hitler gained power in 1932 of 1933.

You have discrediting our institutions that have kept us safe for over 240 years

I trusted General Milly and again the former Director of the Department of Justice William Barr, when he said that the election was not perfect but it was not false news like the big lie that you still believe!


It is literally IMPOSSIBLE for you to get past yourself and understand any of this.


Like I have been saying for years since Trump was the nominee.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

When I read this post, I started to believe that you were getting better than before.


But you went back to insanity like Indy said.


Not a single "liberal" (not even my wife) that I have spoken to believes that the drone attack actually successfully killed any terrorists.

The reason. Because there is no actual evidence that it did. The evidence and eyewitness accounts said that the bomb hit cars and a house belonging to just a family.

Again... YOU AS A DEMOCRAT believe whatever you are told by Biden.



A secondary explosion had completely destroyed the vehicle and scattered pieces over several hundred square feet.


But you don't believe in reality anymore.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

WASHINGTON, Aug 29 (Reuters) - American forces launched a drone strike in Kabul on Sunday that killed a suicide car bomber suspected of preparing to attack the airport, U.S. officials said, as the United States nears the end of its military presence in the Afghan capital.

The strike, first reported by Reuters, was the second carried out by U.S. forces in Afghanistan since an Islamic State suicide bomber struck the airport on Thursday, killing 13 U.S. troops and scores of Afghan civilians trying to flee the country.

One U.S. official said Sunday's strike was carried out by an unmanned aircraft and that secondary explosions following the strike showed the vehicle had been carrying a "substantial amount of explosive material."


Witnesses reported a large blast shaking a neighborhood north of Hamid Karzai International Airport, and television footage showed black smoke rising into the sky.

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U.S. Central Command confirmed the strike and said it was investigating reports of civilian casualties.

"We know that there were substantial and powerful subsequent explosions resulting from the destruction of the vehicle, indicating a large amount of explosive material inside that may have caused additional casualties," it said.

--- plus the fragments from the vehicle could have killed them.
Quit drinking right wing nutcase websites .



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You don't believe this!

One U.S. official said Sunday's strike was carried out by an unmanned aircraft and that secondary explosions following the strike showed the vehicle had been carrying a "substantial amount of explosive material."

Witnesses reported a large blast shaking a neighborhood north of Hamid Karzai International Airport, and television footage showed black smoke rising into the sky.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-carried-out-military-strike-kabul-officials-say-2021-08-29/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, It is literally IMPOSSIBLE for you to get past yourself and understand any of this.

In the last few months I have seen a beautiful fairy young woman deteriorate into the same condition you witnessed when your mother faded away.

I'm not going to diagnose you, but even if you don't have a serious problem like alzheimers, I know people who have zero empathy. It's probably in your DNA.


rrb said...



But his own personal conservative principles are probably such that he agrees with Republicans much of the time, Democrats almost never, and neither side a reasonable amount of time.

True. As I have recently renounced my GOP voter registration because the GOP is essentially dead to me. That, plus I get told around here by the usual suspects that the "real" republicans are the Bulwark grifters, and insufferable "principled" gasbags like Sasse, Romney, Murkowski, Collins, et. al., and the child molesters of the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Association. Not a conservative "principle" among them.

Now as an independent I am quite literally a man without a party, and considering what's on offer, it will stay that way.

You seem to think "partisanship" is someone who attacks the other Party. It's actually more about the consistency of putting Party above principles and actually being willing to not just allow your principles to constantly change when your Party decides for you that they should.

Agreed. And what you describe is exactly how the left on this blog behaves. Not a principled stand on an issue EVER, it's just about political wins, the harm to the nation be damned.

Only the most partisan of partisan hacks is happy about our humiliation in Afghanistan. This is the single most horrible and humiliating defeat/surrender in our nations history. And now that we find ourselves with actual impeachable offenses to lodge against our dementia patient president, nothing will happen because the democrats "WON."

We as Americans didn't win a fucking thing. We're persona non grata to our allies, and our enemies are like the Lincoln grifters with a pre-pubescent boy - they can have their way with us.

rrb said...



Alky,

Fuck you and fuck Indy. He called you a fucking moron for chrissakes. Have some self respect.

And after how this military led by this administration has been caught in a legion of demonstrable fucking lies, rational people will never believe their bullshit propaganda ever again.

Think about restoring the draft because no rational individual can be expected to volunteer for this shit.

Everything the left touches turns to complete shit.

C.H. Truth said...

A secondary explosion had completely destroyed the vehicle and scattered pieces over several hundred square feet.


Well Roger...

Unfortunately as someone who was watching this unfold as it happened, that was not what anyone was reporting at the scene.


Prior to the US claiming it was a drone strike taking out a vehicle heading to the airport, it was being reported by everyone at the scene as a missile that hit a house and that there were civilian casualties (including children). Because the missile was dropped in a residential area and killed civilians, it was originally believed to be a terror attack.

Later, eyewitness accounts have suggested that the bomb hit the location while a bunch of children were getting into a vehicle in front of the house. Now I am also skeptical of eye-witness reports that seemed designed to make the US look bad, but the reality is that lots of bodies of civilians were recovered at the scene, while apparently we are missing the dead terrorists.


What seems to completely elude you Roger if quite simple.

And the large portion of this problem.

You keep repeating to me what you heard from the US Government or what has been reported in the media as told to them by the US Government. You also seem to be discounting anything that was originally reported or what local eyewitnesses seem to have seen.

While simultaneously suggesting that you are not overly trusting or reliant on believing what you are told from the Government.


The easiest way of looking at it is this.

Had the US Government not stated that it was a drone attack targeting terrorist. With what we know from the scene, would we (in a million years) ever have put 2 and 2 together and got Drone attack on terrorists? Answer is not in a million years, because those pieces don't fit together.

rrb said...



U.S. Central Command confirmed the strike and said it was investigating reports of civilian casualties.

Investigating?

How does one investigate an incident in an area they've abandoned by cowardly retreat?

The nickel dick in charge of Central Command heaped PRAISE on the Tally-Bon as he turned tail and fucking RAN.

Piece of shit.


C.H. Truth said...

I'm not going to diagnose you, but even if you don't have a serious problem like alzheimers, I know people who have zero empathy. It's probably in your DNA.

Well since I have never been killed in a terror attack (like the 13 dead American soldiers) or left stranded in country that was just taken over by terrorists (as thousands of Americans have been) or have I been the victim of a drone attack that blew up my house and killed my family...

It's impossible to have empathy (which requires you to feel exactly what someone else feels).


But I do have sympathy for the dead soldiers.

Meanwhile you and the Reverend simply want to talk "numbers" and compare them to how many soldiers died under other Presidents. Talk about cold and uncaring and the ultimate show of no sympathy because of politics.

I do have sympathy for the dead Afghani family that died needlessly.

Meanwhile you compare their deaths with people killed in WWII and the Reverend refers to them as acceptable collateral damage.

I do have sympathy for the Americans left behind to have to live under the constant fear that as Americans (or worse yet Christians) that they will be rounded up with no protection and left to the mercy of a terror group with a long history of violence towards both Americans and Christian.

You downplay it and act as if it was just something we had to do.



The only person or people you seem to have sympathy for is Biden and those in his Administration who are being questioned and criticized. You also probably do have empathy for the President as you and him are both going through the same amount of cognitive decline.


So once again Roger... you are simply projecting.

rrb said...


You keep repeating to me what you heard from the US Government or what has been reported in the media as told to them by the US Government. You also seem to be discounting anything that was originally reported or what local eyewitnesses seem to have seen.

While simultaneously suggesting that you are not overly trusting or reliant on believing what you are told from the Government.



The left is consistent in this regard.

Government is their one and only religion, with abortion being their one and only blessed sacrament and commandment. And this enables them to say with a straight face that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are "devout Catholics."

Leftism owes its very existence to those things that are demonstrably UNTRUE.






rrb said...


Meanwhile you and the Reverend simply want to talk "numbers" and compare them to how many soldiers died under other Presidents. Talk about cold and uncaring and the ultimate show of no sympathy because of politics.


Their entire "argument," if you want to call it that, can be distilled down to two words:

"But Trump..."

It's almost as if they're privately ashamed of the imbecile they installed in the white house.

As they should be.



rrb said...




Marine Corps Body Bearers:

https://youtu.be/f9SzHRlGRXE


The Final Uniform:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp_M28SGfag


rrb said...



Latest security alert on US Embassy In Afghanistan website: “Make contingency plans to leave when it is safe to do so that do not rely on U.S. government assistance.”


https://twitter.com/ShannonBream/status/1432590613992542211

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You are gone.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If the Republicans get control in the next election. This will happen.

Biden’s mental and physical disqualifications aside, there is no higher crime or misdemeanor than violating the oath of office.

The president of the United States takes the following oath upon entering office: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Joe Biden has assaulted the Constitution of the United States. Let’s start with Biden’s recent admission that the CDC’s unconstitutional extension of the eviction moratorium was . . . unconstitutional. Biden acknowledged the CDC’s extension was “not likely to pass constitutional muster” but hailed it as “worth the effort.” Is this what protecting and defending the Constitution looks like?

How about the equal protection clause of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment? It was ratified after the Civil War in 1868 to stop states from discriminating against blacks. Section 1 clearly states for those still literate: “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

On August 23, Biden called on private companies to discriminate against the unvaccinated. “If you’re a business leader, a nonprofit leader, a state or local leader who has been waiting on full FDA approval to require vaccinations, I call on you now to do that,” Biden said. “Require it.”

The unvaxxed, as I have written, are the new blacks. Is it not a violation of the Constitution and the equal protection clause to require a vaccination to work; as a prerequisite to having the unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Is this the behavior of a president, who is fulfilling his sacred oath to protect and defend the Constitution?

But these obviously impeachable offenses aside, let us look to Afghanistan. Dershowitz—and others—claim that “the Framers insisted that a president could not be impeached unless he committed criminal-type conduct akin to treason and bribery.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Article III, Section 3, Clause 1 of the Constitution defines treason as “levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.” Biden ignored the advice of his military advisors by withdrawing American troops—gifting the Taliban $85 billion in American weaponry in the process.

More damning still, Representative Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas) tweeted, “Biden is not letting US citizens through the airport gates. It has been impossible to get anyone through for the last 24 hours.” Biden has not only aided and abetted the enemy by arming them, but he is also actively assisting them in preventing Americans from coming home—giving them both American weapons and American hostages.

Thirteen U.S. service members have already died in the Kabul airport attack. How many American civilians has Biden condemned to die by leaving them stranded behind enemy lines—forcing them to stay there against their will? 

Is this not an act of treason? How about Biden’s green-lighting of a Russian pipeline while he shutdown an American pipeline? This certainly “aids and comforts” an enemy, while hindering and harming ourselves.

In June, Biden called on “Facebook to take action—responsible action, action that is critical to the health of our democracy,” to censor the speech of his political opponents. Is this defending the First Amendment? Is this faithfully executing the oath of office?

The truth is, there has never been a more clear case for the impeachment of a president in American history. Dershowitz is wrong. The impeachment of Biden doesn’t damage the Constitution, it fulfills the Constitution. It is Biden, who is damaging the Constitution. Biden should be impeached. It is both necessary and constitutional; in fact, the impeachment clause exists to remove the likes of Joe Biden.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You said that I had no empathy for the 13 soldiers.


I posted this because like I said before that when the President was watching the coffins and I cried out loud.

I also posted this because I care about them.

Finally, I want to end with a moment of gratitude for the sacrifice of the 13 service members in Afghanistan who gave their lives last week to save tens of thousands: Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Darin T. Hoover, Marine Corps Sgt. Johanny Rosariopichardo, Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole L. Gee, Marine Corps Cpl. Hunter Lopez, Marine Corps Cpl. Daegan W. Page, Marine Corps Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui, Navy Hospitalman Maxton W. Soviak and Army Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss.

It's not in your DNA, because you have lost your mind Scott.


Commonsense said...

Reports out of Kabul says the Taliban are going door to door executing people.

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

You are gone.



You sit locked down in a nursing home at the relatively young age on 70.

I know folks with 15 to 20 years on you who are ALL in better shape mentally, and most are in better shape physically.

So, your diagnoses? We see them all as just more psychological projection from you alky.

Stick with plagiarisms. While annoying to us, they're not as embarrassing for you.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/30/the-clear-case-for-joe-bidens-impeachment/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I will go to the gym today and you wouldn't want to mess with me.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm in great shape again because the President has gotten the vaccine distributed by the millions.

I'm completely flexible and most people think I'm about 55 instead of 70.


Especially younger women.


rrb said...



Finally, I want to end with a moment of gratitude for the sacrifice of the 13 service members in Afghanistan who gave their lives last week to save tens of thousands:


How touching, AFTER he insults their memory to their parents and loved ones by prattling on about his NON-COMBATANT, paper-pushing son Beau.



C.H. Truth said...

This is all Roger is capable of Rat...

Demanding that everyone else has "lost it" or accusing other of becoming "senile" or having 'dementia" or demanding that someone else is "gone". I especially find the whole "your a racist" thing to be the silliest of the new ad hominen fallacy that Roger displays recently.


This is a classic defense mechanism when someone reads an argument that triggers their cognitive dissonance. They cannot attack the argument, so they simply attack the person. The fact that in Roger's case it's almost always projection makes it all the more interesting.

He's a fucking case study at this point!

C.H. Truth said...

I'm completely flexible and most people think I'm about 55 instead of 70.

We've seen your pictures Roger...

We all know exactly how old you look.

Anonymous said...

Yes, we do, Roger looks like a ghost with one foot on a banana peel.

Anonymous said...

Roger , really u are only 70, crap, sad.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Blogger C.H. Truth said...
Reverend...
Not a single "liberal" (not even my wife) that I have spoken to believes that the drone attack actually successfully killed any terrorists.

JAMES:
Put your wife on here, Ch. I would love to talk with HER personally about that.


The reason. Because there is no actual evidence that it did. The evidence and eyewitness accounts said that the bomb hit cars and a house belonging to just a family.

JAMES:
So there were no secondary explosions indicating a suicide bomber's car had been hit?


Again... YOU AS A DEMOCRAT believe whatever you are told by Biden.

JAMES:
As an AMERICAN I tend to believe what our own military intelligence and other intelligence agencies tell us.


The liberals I know are skeptical of anything the Government tells us, especially as it pertains to military. Most liberals (true liberals) are distrustful of the military and are apt to believe that it is largely misused for our own power purposes.

So when a LIBERAL DISTRUSTS THE MILITARY and what the military says to them, it's easy for A LIBERAL to be skeptical of this situation.

A LIBERAL does not suddenly become trusting of the military and Government the second a Democrat is elected.

JAMES:
Indeed, as an American and a Democrat I have come to believe our military and other intelligence agencies more than I believe Trump and Putin, and that started long before Biden was elected.


That is the difference Reverend. Your trust is in Biden and Democrats. Your overall trust of foreign diplomacy, the military, etc... is fluid depending on who is in office.

JAMES:
If the person in office is an liar like Trump, I DO tend to believe that the party opposed to him will tell us the truth more than he will.


Those of us who are tied to a philosophy and ideals rather than politicians will simply see things differently.

JAMES:
Oh, your wonderful philosphy and ideals seem to have done some radical self revisions since, against your own preferences, Trump came into office.
You did not want him for president, but your philosopy and ideals sure have caved in to him shamelessly ever since he won election.


It may be literally IMPOSSIBLE for you to get past yourself and understand any of this.

JAMES:
Oh, I understand it all quite well, thank you.
I understand you would do well to look in the mirror as you say that. :-)