Saturday, January 8, 2022

FDA can approve a vaccine in four months, but wanted 55 years to release that information?

Judge Gives FDA Eight Months Instead of 55 Years to Release Pfizer Vaccine Data
Pittman’s ruling requires the FDA to start producing documents at an expedited pace — more than 12,000 pages before Jan. 31. That timeline is also in line with the agency’s proposal. But deviating sharply from the FDA’s desired timeline, the judge ordered the agency to “produce the remaining documents at a rate of 55,000 pages every 30 days, with the first production being due on or before March 1, 2022, until production is complete.”
Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency said the data should be made public quickly because the FDA took just under four months to review the data before granting full approval for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. “Pfizer began its rolling submission on May 7, 2021, and the vaccine was licensed on August 23, 2021, a total of 108 days from initial submission to licensure,” it wrote in a December filing.

Now one doesn't have to be a conspiracy theorist to question why the FDA could possibly need over a half century to release the information that led them to approve this vaccine within four months. That would at least make it "appear" that they might actually be hiding something. As it stands, the order would make sure that pretty much everything they have be released within eight months, which is still double the amount of time it took to approve the vaccine. 


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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

This is a stupid thread

Here's something more worthwhile.

Pop-up COVID testing sites could be rife for nefarious activities, experts warn

NBC
January 8, 2022, 4:30 AM

Sandra Jaramillo needed a negative Covid-19 test to return to work but was coming up empty on finding a same-day test due to overwhelming demand.

Jaramillo was experiencing headaches and a fever, and with limited options, she decided to stop at a pop-up testing site set up in the parking lot of a church near her home in San Antonio.

Under a small tent, she was told to give her driver's license number, date of birth and email address before she was handed a swab to administer the test on herself.

That was more than a week ago, Jaramillo said, now panicked that her personal information may have been be compromised.

No one ever answers the number listed on the information sheet she was given, and the voice mailbox is full.

“At this point, it’s making me feel like I am being scammed,” Jaramillo, 32, said. “It's been terrible. It feels like there is no choice and nowhere to turn [for a test].”

Pop-up testing sites have cropped up on street corners, in parking lots and on shopping properties across the country, but health and legal experts say many of these are unregulated and could be rife for nefarious activities like identity theft.

In the last few weeks, legislators and attorneys general in several states including Illinois, Maryland, California, Texas and Pennsylvania have said they will be investigating and introducing regulatory legislation overseeing these operations.

Numerous illegal, unapproved and unsanitary sites have been cautioned by state officials nationwide.

Outside of St. Louis, a Covid testing site set up at a mall parking lot and was asking people to provide Social Security and passport ID numbers when registering for tests. It was shut down by police, who later urged anyone who visited the site to monitor their credit reports for fraudulent activity.

At least two sites were identified inBaltimore, where state Attorney General Brian Frosh warned residents to be aware of "illegal, unlicensed pop-up COVID-19 testing sites” that were collecting personal information that could be used for identity theft.

Unsanitary sites were reported in Chicago with workers not wearing masks or gloves. Conditions were being described as a “hellhole,” nonprofit news organization Block Club Chicago reported. People who visited said they never got their results or they came in weeks after visiting.

Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker described the testing spots as “fly-by-night” sites that are “an enormous problem,” before vowing to crack down on them.

“With increasing demand for Covid tests, people can expect to run across fake tests online and maybe even more of the fake testing sites we saw earlier in the pandemic,” Colleen Tressler, a consumer education specialist with the Federal Trade Commission Bureau of Consumer Protection, said. “Scammers believe in supply and demand, too, so where there’s demand for tests, scammers will fake the supply.”

Since the pandemic began, the FTC has received over 650,000 reports of Covid-related fraud, identity theft and other scams, which have cost Americans over $636 million.

Marian Liu, a professor of nursing at the Center on Aging and the Life Course at Purdue University, said the pandemic has sprung all different kinds of fraud that have been based around people’s needs at the time.

“At the very beginning, people were knocking on doors, telling them, ‘We have vaccines.’ And now that we do have vaccines, I feel like the format of scams are transforming once again into something different,” Liu said.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Not all the pop-up clinics may be operating in a malicious way, Liu said, but some probably are, which is why Liu advised being cautious when thinking about going to any of these sites. Some are charging for tests, when in most cases you don’t have to pay for them.

For some, they play on the convenience of “going right around the corner,” but as Covid cases continue to soar, “they're functioning on the fact that people are desperate,” according to Liu.

These convenient pop-ups come as several states have announced limited testing ability due to severe shortages, including Indiana, which limited rapid antigen testing to people 18 and younger and symptomatic individuals ages 50 and older. The state normally uses about 50,000 rapid tests a week, but it is now guaranteed to receive only 11,000 a week.

In Philadelphia, more than 4,000 people took Covid tests at tents throughout busy parts of the city that were run by an organization that falsely identified itself as partnering with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported. Some sites may have taken Social Security numbers.

“Nasal swabs were being collected by a New Jersey-based marketing agency and then shipped to a Chicago testing lab, owned by a plumber and bar owner,” the outlet reported.

Melissa Bailey, 53, was one of the thousands that visited one of these sites in the Center City district of Philadelphia.

“I have seen the city harass people for selling water on the street, so it didn’t even dawn on me that these people would be allowed to set up a tent and not be at the attention of the city in such a busy part of the city,” Bailey, whose driver's license was scanned by the site workers, said.

Bailey said she did receive her results in the promised time, but she has been worried that her personal information might be misused.

As events are unfolding in real time, so is oversight, which means these pop-up testing sites are largely unregulated, said Allison K. Hoffman, a professor of health care law and policy at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School.

There are federal and state regulations that cover clinical laboratories, but “what's tricky is that the tents that you see popping up may or may not be affiliated with a clinical lab,” she said.

The pop-ups are also not under the purview of many states’ departments of health because they are often not classified as health clinics.

”Regulators have to catch up to it, and just as the wave with omicron in the last weeks was so intense that it outpaced demand, so quickly that regulators are trying to follow what is happening in such a rapid way that I think it does leave the regulator scrambling a little bit,” she said.

But while the law catches up, Hoffman said it's important to be careful when visiting a pop-up site.

“If they're asking for more information than they should be, like Social Security numbers, don't give that to them,” she said. “If they're asking for payment, don't give them payment because you shouldn't be paying out of pocket at all for these tests right now. So I think that even though rightfully so, people are really eager to get tested right now, they should still be wise about whom they're giving information.”
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WOULD it be uncharitable of me to suggest that some people should be taken out and shot?

rrb said...


WOULD it be uncharitable of me to suggest that some people should be taken out and shot?


What's the matter pederast? A little frustrated that a democrat stronghold like Philly is a crime-infested shithole? With a Soros bought and paid for DA to boot?

You want to shoot democrats now pederast? Gee, seems harsh for a supposed man of God.

Awww.

Remember pederast, Philly had 125% turnout for 0linsky not just once but TWICE. With armed New Black Panthers guarding the polls so that EVERYONE voted democrat.

LOL.

When you become reliant upon scumbags to serve your political ends you have to take the good with the bad, pederast.



rrb said...



And I thought Sotomayor was the stupid one.


Kagan: “the government is paying for the medical services so they have the right to dictate details of those services”

https://twitter.com/GraduatedBen/status/1479515720778235914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1479515720778235914%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fdougp-3137%2F2022%2F01%2F08%2Fkarol-markowicz-christina-pushaw-and-others-cant-believe-a-scotus-justice-actually-said-this%2F

C.H. Truth said...

Rat....

People should understand that "certain" crimes are okay to commit, while others should be handled with summary executions.

Okay to cause millions in damages, attack police officers, set cars on fire, smash private retail store fronts and steal merchandise, as long as you are rioting in 2017 against Trump and his inauguration. Of the hundreds arrested in the 2017 riots less than 20 were ever tried. The others all saw their charges dropped.

It's okay to cause billions in damages in riots, come armed, wearing armor and carrying shields... as long as you are Antifa and standing up for drug addicted criminals. Those can be arrested, released without charges, and then come out the next night and attack some more police officers.


But lord forbid you are let into the Capitol building, walk around peacefully, don't destroy anything or attack anyone. You are on the hook for jail time because...

wait for it...

Merrick Garland treats everyone equally.


That apparently can only be proven by bringing charges that were ignored when Kavanaugh protesters entered the Capitol complex (breaking the exact same laws) and attempted to stop a Senate vote.


So yeah... depends not on the crime at all. Rioting is sometimes okay and sometimes not.

It also does not depend on the place. You can enter the Capitol complex if you are protesting Kavanaugh being confirmed, but not if you are protesting Biden being inaugurated.

It ONLY depends on who committed it and what their political intentions are.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Now go to the next thread down and refute what I have just posted there.

You asked for data proving that vaccinations and boosters are helping to keep people from being hospitalized with more severe symptoms and even dying, and I have provided it.

But you will again DESPECABLY try to dance and twist your way out of what the doctors and others actually working in hospitals are saying.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

NATO Rejects Russian Demand
January 8, 2022 at 3:56 pm EST By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

NATO’s secretary-general has ruled out creating “second-class” members of the military alliance to appease Moscow, ahead of a week of high-stakes diplomacy between the Kremlin and western powers that aims to avoid a feared Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Financial Times reports.
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No more playing kissy kissy with Putin as Trump did.

Anonymous said...

James, where on this blog can I find your message of unity?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

DESPICABLY

Anonymous said...

Covid Info to Trump.

Wow, The Three Socialist of CHT are fixated on Trump.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

UNITE AGAINST COVID BY ENCOURAGING ALL OUR PEOPLE TO GET VACCINATED AND GET BOOSTERS AND THUS HELP THEM AVOID SERIOUS SICKNESS AND EVEN DEATH.

Anonymous said...

Remember when testing was vital.
And now, well, lower expectations prevail.

Anonymous said...

James, can we agree God made Man?

Anonymous said...

James maybe posted this, kinda, and belived it is science, kinda.

"About 90% of COVID-19 patients in some of Pa.’s hardest-hit hospitals are unvaccinated"

About
Some

Now that is definitely somewhat a source.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I wonder if KansasDim believes the scripture that says he will one day stand before the throne of God and answer for everything he has ever said?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You have been brainwashed.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's starting to look like a criminal case against Trump.

A spokesperson for the select committee declined to comment on details about the investigation. A spokesperson for the justice department declined to comment whether the agency had opened a criminal inquiry for Trump or his closest allies over 6 January.

Still, the select committee appears to be moving towards making at least some referrals – or alternatively recommendations in its final report – that an aggressive prosecutor at the justice department could use to pursue a criminal inquiry, the sources said.


US Capitol attack: Liz Cheney says Mike Pence ‘was a hero’ on 6 January. So did I on Facebook and some people were not agreed.

Read more

The select committee is examining the evidence principally to identify legislative reforms to prevent a repeat of Trump’s plan to subvert the election, but members say if they find Trump violated federal law, they have an obligation to refer that to the justice department.


Sending a criminal referral to the justice department – essentially a recommendation for prosecution – carries no formal legal weight since Congress lacks the authority to force it to open a case, and House investigators have no authority to charge witnesses with a crime.

But a credible criminal referral from the select committee could have a substantial political effect given the importance of the 6 January inquiry, and place pressure on the attorney general, Merrick Garland, to initiate an investigation, or explain why he might not do so.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Now one doesn't have to be a conspiracy theorist to question why the FDA could possibly need over a half century to release the information that led them to approve this vaccine within four months. 



You actually believe that they kept it secret, despite the fact that it would have saved $billions, and saved millions of lives around the planet.

Alzheimers symptoms can start in the 50s.

Well written irrational diatribes are a serious symptom Scott.

You need help.

Myballs said...

More Roger dumbassity

If they find...
Could have...

IOW, speculative bullshit again

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://twitter.com/rlamick/status/1479938054152343552?t=QY1Nguxc3ZUsrvRYXtG2tA&s=19

C.H. Truth said...

You asked for data proving that vaccinations and boosters are helping to keep people from being hospitalized with more severe symptoms and even dying, and I have provided it.

I have seen no links to actual data, Reverend...


And I am specifically referring to data in regards to the Omicron variant.

I see you providing anecdotal quotes and statements by people. These opinions might have merit, but it's not the same thing as actual data. We have seen about 1001 thing "stated" about Covid that turned out to be patently false when all is said and done.


As a member of clergy it is your job to act on faith. Just believe what you are told, because much of it cannot be proven. Easy to be trained to be obedient to opinions.

In my job I have to be skeptical of any and all claims until they can be proven. IF I allowed myself to believe everything I was told, my success level would be next to zero. My job requires me (as hard as it is sometimes) for everyone to provide me the data or proof of what it is that they are saying.

I don't simply believe people when they say something, especially if there are motives involved.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

You should be ashamed. You are calling people who work in hospitals and see first hand what is happening there liars. They have no political agenda, as you and I do. They only want what is really best for people. You should really, really be ashamed of yourself.

I am not going on "faith," but on the reality those people are experiencing, both the ones serving there and the ones unnecessarily suffering and dying there.

Really, you should be ashamed.,

Anonymous said...

James thinks he is the voice of hospital workers. What misguided arrogance.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

There is nothing arrogant in what those people themselves are saying in the next thread down.

You too should be ashamed.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And you were.
So ashamed you signed in as Anonymous.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You are typical of people who have started following strong leaders, who discredit every institution, and either tear them down or replace the leaders with loyalist, like Hitler and Mussolini and, it's going on in the old Soviet union countries.


You simply don't believe people when they say something, you don't agree with, even if you have zero evidence in the data.

And they intended to destroy Donald Trump.




believe their motives

anonymous said...

I have seen no links to actual data, Reverend...


KINDA LIKE THE DATA YOU HAVE SEEN REGARDING VOTER FRAUD AND TRUMP REALLY WON!!!!!! ASSHOLE

Anonymous said...

James, can we agree God made Man?

James answer = dance

Anonymous said...

James let me again educate you.
This is how it is done.

"I wonder if KansasDim believes the scripture that says he will one day stand before the throne of God and answer for everything he has ever said?"

Answer = Yes.

anonymous said...

KansasDemocrat said...
James, can we agree God made Man?

HE CERTAINLY FUCKED UP WITH YOU!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

James let me again educate you.
This is how it is done.

"I wonder if KansasDim believes the scripture that says he will one day stand before the throne of God and answer for everything he has ever said?"

Answer = Yes.
____________

My reply:
In that case, I'd be very worried if I were you.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

More harm than good.

https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/media-resources/the-pfizer-inoculations-for-COVID-19-more-harm-than-good/

Science has been released with politics instead of religion during the reformation period in Europe after the collapse of the Roman Empire.



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I don't know why KansasDim keeps asking me if I believe God made Man.

Surely he knows that even the Pope, who believes in evolution, believes that '...God created man in his own image; male and female he created them' (Genesis 1:27).

Anonymous said...

James, can we agree God made Man?

James answer = Still dancing

Anonymous said...

It was a freebee question James.

No need to defer , dance and deflect.

I gave you an example of how to directly answer a question.

Anonymous said...

Noah would not be able to fill the arch today using leftist definition of genders.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The church is called Mercy Culture, and it is part of a growing Christian movement that is nondenominational, openly political and has become an engine of former president Donald Trump’s Republican Party. It includes some of the largest congregations in the nation, housed in the husks of old Baptist churches, former big-box stores and sprawling multimillion-dollar buildings with private security to direct traffic on Sundays. Its most successful leaders are considered apostles and prophets, including some with followings in the hundreds of thousands, publishing empires, TV shows, vast prayer networks, podcasts, spiritual academies, and branding in the form of T-shirts, bumper stickers and even flags. It is a world in which demons are real, miracles are real, and the ultimate mission is not just transforming individual lives but also turning civilization itself into their version of God’s Kingdom: one with two genders, no abortion, a free-market economy, Bible-based education, church-based social programs and laws such as the ones curtailing LGBTQ rights now moving through statehouses around the country.

This is the world of Trump’s spiritual adviser Paula White and many more lesser-known but influential religious leaders who prophesied that Trump would win the election and helped organize nationwide prayer rallies in the days before the Jan. 6 insurrection, speaking of an imminent “heavenly strike” and “a Christian populist uprising,” leading many who stormed the Capitol to believe they were taking back the country for God.

anonymous said...

BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! GOAT FUCKER.....QUEEN OF OBFUSCATION AND BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Even as mainline Protestant and evangelical denominations continue an overall decline in numbers in a changing America, nondenominational congregations have surged from being virtually nonexistent in the 1980s to accounting for roughly 1 in 10 Americans in 2020, according to long-term academic surveys of religious affiliation. Church leaders tend to attribute the growth to the power of an uncompromised Christianity. Experts seeking a more historical understanding point to a relatively recent development called the New Apostolic Reformation, or NAR.

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A California-based theologian coined the phrase in the 1990s to describe what he said he had seen as a missionary in Latin America — vast church growth, miracles, and modern-day prophets and apostles endowed with special powers to fight demonic forces. He and others promoted new church models using sociological principles to attract members. They also began advancing a set of beliefs called dominionism, which holds that God commands Christians to assert authority over the “seven mountains” of life — family, religion, education, economy, arts, media and government — after which time Jesus Christ will return and God will reign for eternity.

None of which is new, exactly. Strains of this thinking formed the basis of the Christian right in the 1970s and have fueled the GOP for decades.

What is new is the degree to which Trump elevated a fresh network of NAR-style leaders who in turn elevated him as God’s chosen president, a fusion that has secured the movement as a grass-roots force within the GOP just as the old Christian right is waning. Increasingly, this is the world that the term “evangelical voter” refers to — not white-haired Southern Baptists in wooden pews but the comparatively younger, more diverse, more extreme world of millions drawn to leaders who believe they are igniting a new Great Awakening in America, one whose epicenter is Texas.

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That is where the pastor wearing the bright-red T-shirt, Landon Schott, had been on the third day of a 40-day fast when he said the Lord told him something he found especially interesting.

It was 2017, and he was walking the streets of downtown Fort Worth asking God to make him a “spiritual father” of the city when he heard God say no. What he needed was “spiritual authority,” he remembered God telling him, and the way to get that was to seek the blessing of a pastor named Robert Morris, an evangelical adviser to Trump, and the founder of one of the largest church networks in the nation, called Gateway, with nine branches and weekly attendance in the tens of thousands, including some of the wealthiest businessmen in Texas.

Morris blessed him. Not long after that, a bank blessed him with the funds to purchase an aging church called Calvary Cathedral International, a polygonal structure with a tall white steeple visible from Interstate 35. Soon, the old red carpet was being ripped up. The old wooden pews were being hauled out. The cross on the stage was removed, and in came a huge screen, black and white paint, speakers, lights and modern chandeliers as the new church called Mercy Culture was born.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/11/mercy-culture-church/

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Didn't the Donald tell us the virus would be gone by summer before last? You guess he had "data" for that?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If the side effects, include myocarditis, blood clots, stroke, heart attack, death, perhaps, were the reason kept away from the public eye???????, Will you admit it wasn't a conspiracy theory

Myocarditis

Overview

Symptoms

Treatments

News

Specialists

Main Results

Description

Inflammation of the middle layer of the heart wall.

Myocarditis is usually caused by a viral infection. A severe case can weaken the heart, which can lead to heart failure, abnormal heartbeat, and sudden death.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

From your link

It may be a bit too late to prevent the reduction in the public’s confidence in government, however. Per Newsweek:

Less than a third of Republicans say they trust the U.S. government, a dramatic double-digit decline compared with a year ago, new polling shows.

…The survey results, published Thursday, show that while 48 percent of Republicans said they had “some” trust in the U.S. government in January 2021, that number has now plummeted to just 28 percent. That marks a decline of 20 points over the past year.

Meanwhile, trust in federal elections among Republicans has dipped as well. A year ago, 43 percent of GOP voters had “some” trust in the U.S. electoral system. Now, that amount has dipped by 8 percentage points to just 35 percent—or slightly more than a third.

Newsweek blames President Donald Trump. Yet any explanation that does not take into account the numerous flip-flops and confusing recommendations from government “experts” related to coronavirus response is missing a critical element in its assessment.

Political bias not science

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This would be great satire but you believe it!

Fauci’s power kept expanding.

As he lays down public health policy, the NIAID boss commands a budget of more than $6 billion, which gives him huge leverage. If medical scientists fail to follow the party line, say, on the origin of the COVID virus, Fauci can make their funding disappear. The NIAID boss also boasts a strategic ally.

Fauci’s wife Christine Grady is head of bioethics for the National Institutes of Health, of which NIAID is part. Whatever Fauci wants to do, from dangerous drug experiments on foster children to the torture of beagle puppies, his main squeeze Christine will tell him it’s all right. It is as though President Richard Nixon’s wife Pat headed the Federal Election Commission, and told her husband the Watergate operation was perfectly fine.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

CH: "Don't get vaccinated, don't get a booster, just pray."

THE DEAD: "We did."