Tapper: "One doesn't have to be brilliant to attempt a coup."
Bolton: "I disagree with that. As somebody who has helped plan coups d'etat -- not here, but, you know, other places -- it takes a lot of work. And that's not what he did. It was just stumbling around from one idea to another. "
Cillizza:
But also, to my mind, wrong. And proven wrong by several things that we know Trump contemplated doing during the period between when he lost the 2020 presidential election and when Joe Biden was inaugurated as the 46th president on January 20, 2021.So these two have one thing in common. They both loath Donald Trump with the white hot passion of a thousand burning suns. But they have way different "real world" experiences with the world stage and how Governments work.
Bolton doesn't see this as a coup for obvious reasons. He has been involved with real coups in the past. Coups are generally "overthrowing of a Government" by a third party power. They are pretty much 100% armed takeovers as well. Our 2020 election was 90% legal battle and 10% bluster. Trump was not an out of power party trying to overthrow a Government. He was the Government leader attempting to stay in charge.
Cillizza sees things differently either because he actually does believe that the most powerful superpower in the history of the planet can be taken down by a few hundred unarmed people and a few dozen armed with bear spray and flagpoles... or he simply wants to believe media spin. Either way, it is not based on reality.
98 comments:
You Donald Trump with the white hot passion of a thousand burning suns..
it is not based on reality
Indy is absolutely correct about you today
At one time I was not able to think well. I'm back
But like so many people who have worked with him for years have found the coldheartedtruth about him.
One of the reasons why I still talk here, I would like to see 👀 you finally come to your senses.
But you are getting worse.
Scott in Italy and Germany..
They were the Government leader attempting to stay in charge.
The communist did the same time too.
This law got us into the place 🙌
It needs to be modified to make sure that the election results can get locked in and the state legislatures cannot decide election results.
The Electoral Count Act of 1887 (ECA) (Pub.L. 49–90, 24 Stat. 373,[1] later codified at Title 3, Chapter 1[2]) is a United States federal law adding to procedures set out in the Constitution of the United States for the counting of electoral votes following a presidential election. The Act was enacted by Congress in 1887, ten years after the disputed 1876 presidential election, in which several states submitted competing slates of electors and a divided Congress was unable to resolve the deadlock for weeks.[3] Close elections in 1880 and 1884 followed, and again raised the possibility that with no formally established counting procedure in place, partisans in Congress might use the counting process to force a desired result.[4]
Electoral Count Act of 1887
More voters want Trump to run again than Biden. That's how unpopular democrats are.
https://wapo.st/3uPiacW
Scott There was a gallows set up outside the Capitol. This could have been the spark that started a new civil war. It was not just a few guys in costume
Myballsinthewoodsagain is Right.
President Trump is going to Run in 2024.
Biden, well , not even Democrats want him.
Bidenomics has failed Americans
"PHOENIX (AP) — Long lines are back at food banks around the U.S. as working Americans overwhelmed by inflation turn to handouts to help feed their families.
With gas prices soaring along with grocery costs, many people are seeking charitable food for the first time, and more are arriving on foot.
Roger, what is the Biden Plan to reverse inflation?
EXCELLENT NEWS !!!
Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
Scott in Italy and Germany..
They were the Government leader attempting to stay in charge.
The communist did the same time too.
roger I put some of your comments including this into an online English scorer
You came in at a 4.26 Grade Level !!!
Maybe you can go back to school again !!!
in fact given the failure of our education system they may even place you in junior high school !!!
if you can get out.
and you may need a note for the teacher
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-Fascist) believes protests should make everyone uncomfortable … except Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Even better, AOC got caught lying about the incident.
A forward looking indicator.
"Wholesale prices shoot up near-record 11.3% in June on surge in energy costs"
Hitler and Moussani and Stalin
Eric Trump
@EricTrump
It is with deep sadness that we announce the passing of our beloved mother, Ivana Trump. Our mother was an incredible woman — a force in business, a world-class athlete, a radiant beauty, and caring mother and friend. Ivana Trump was a survivor. She fled from communism and embraced this country. She taught her children about grit and toughness, compassion and determination. She will be dearly missed by her mother, her three children and ten grandchildren.
link and photo:
https://truthsocial.com/@EricTrump/posts/108647428502159955
RIP
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I am very saddened to inform all of those that loved her, of which there are many, that Ivana Trump has passed away at her home in New York City. She was a wonderful, beautiful, and amazing woman, who led a great and inspirational life. Her pride and joy were her three children, Donald Jr., Ivanka, and Eric. She was so proud of them, as we were all so proud of her. Rest In Peace, Ivana!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/108647350940945943
Ivana Trump, Donald Trump's first wife and the mother of his three oldest children, has died, the former president said Thursday.
"I am very saddened to inform all of those that loved her, of which there are many, that Ivana Trump has passed away at her home in New York City," Trump said in a post on his social media platform, Truth Social. "She was a wonderful, beautiful, and amazing woman, who led a great and inspirational life. Her pride and joy were her three children, Donald Jr., Ivanka, and Eric. She was so proud of them, as we were all so proud of her. Rest In Peace, Ivana!"
roger's reading skills
less than 4th grade
reading comprehension skill
less than 3rd grade
needs improvement
and the trend is not his friend
I read so much faster than you can imagine.
I was testing in 7th grade and I was reading at the college level and my vocabulary was much bigger than you thought.
I read so much faster than you can imagine.
I can imagine you reading... Dr Seuss!
I was testing in 7th grade and I was reading at the college level and my vocabulary was much bigger than you thought.
Then how stupid did you become to get C+ grades and less than 1600 our 2400 on your SATs?
Did you fall on your head and knock some things loose?
Scott I was admitted into The South Dakota School of Mines & Technology in September of 1969.
My c+ average was not sufficient.
Look it up
I took the test SAT scored 2,100 .
I passed everything at the top except for mathematics.
And ✔️ in 7th grade 142
I fucking up a lot of things but I enjoy meeting with you and etc
Mainly self motivation.
Things came easily 😌
If we meet up I would enjoy reading the same book at the same time and afterwards check out your recall.
https://theintercept.com/2022/07/14/jan-6-texts-deleted-secret-service/
The President may have influenced the Secret Service
Roger...
You told us your SAT score was 1590 and then bragged about how it was almost perfect (1590 out of 1600).
Until I explained to you that 1590 would have been out of 2400 when you took the test.
Now you want us to believe that rather than an average 1590 (which you bragged and bragged about) - that you "actually got 2100 instead?
Sure Roger...
Lie, lie, lie!
"Coups are generally "overthrowing of a Government" by a third party power...."
Attempted coups are illegal attempts to do the same thing.
a few hundred unarmed people and a few dozen armed with bear spray and flagpoles...
In Ch's mind, guns and knives and wrist twists and explosives turn into bear spray and [blunt?] flagpoles.
Lil Schitty once again twists words to make himself look good......I took the SAT' in 1969 probably the same year as Roger where a perfect score was 1600. The school I attended had about 10 kids who scored perfect scores......I doubt the veracity of your claim of 2400 since that happened in 2014 since that was a perfect total after an essay was added.....Sorry sport, the only liar is you!!!!
Quote of the Day
July 14, 2022 at 4:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 51 Comments
“Of all the selfish things he does every minute of every day, it would probably be the most.”
— A “prominent” GOP strategist, quoted by the Washington Post, on Donald Trump possibly announcing a presidential bid before the midterms.
Secret Service Erased January 6 Text Messages
July 14, 2022 at 3:54 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 111 Comments
The Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and January 6, 2021 after oversight officials requested the agency’s electronic communications, The Intercept reports.
Patty Murray Holds Huge Lead In Washington
July 14, 2022 at 4:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 32 Comments
Despite speculation about a close race, a new SurveyUSA poll in Washington finds Sen. Patty Murray (D) leading challenger Tiffany Smiley (R) by a wide margin, 51% to 33%.
Pedo it’s Washington, you fucking moron
Pedo it’s Washington
Wow.....figured that out all by your self shorty!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! How's walker doing a fellow UGA fucking loser like you?????
Roger changes SAT Scores.
Omg, funny, how CHT plays Roger daily.
Coldheartedtruth TellerJune 10, 2021 at 7:45 AM
Prices jumped 5 percent in May, continuing inflationary climb. Policymakers say it’s temporary"
Roger has learned nothing.
@ RealClearPolitics.com
Fascism is on our doorstep
With all the threats facing our democracy, does it really matter that Joe Biden is old?
Our story so far...
The Extreme Court just gutted reproductive rights, shredded a New York law that helped keep guns out of public spaces for more than a century and crippled the Environmental Protection Agency in the face of a global climate crisis.
Georgia may soon send to the Senate former football star Herschel Walker, last seen claiming the Green New Deal would make America’s “good air decide to float over to China’s bad air.” Amazingly, he would not be the dumbest Republican in Congress.
Many observers fear, as election deniers run to become election officials all over the country, that 2024 could be the last time Americans cast a meaningful ballot. Fascism is on our doorstep.
So does it matter that Joe Biden is old?
The realization seems to have struck Democrats all at once that the president, born Nov. 20, 1942, is no spring chicken. If elected to a second term, which he seems intent on seeking, he would be 86 years old when he left office. The famously ancient Ronald Reagan, by comparison, was a mere child of 77 when his White House years came to an end.
In recent days, the president’s age — and concern over his subterranean poll numbers — have fueled debate among the party faithful on the feasibility and desirability of another term.
The New York Times has not been laggard in reporting on it. “Should Biden Run in 2024?” asked one headline. “At 79, Biden is Testing the Boundaries of Age and the Presidency,” declared another. A Monday story was headlined, “Most Democrats Don’t Want Biden in 2024, New Poll Shows.” A Tuesday opinion column by Michelle Goldberg made it explicit: “Joe Biden Is Too Old To Be President Again.”
It is worth noting that Biden was elected for one reason above all: to not be Donald Trump. In that, he has succeeded. Decency, predictability, stability and maturity have all returned to the White House after a four-year exile.
None of which, unfortunately, puts gas in your tank or baby formula on your shelves. And Biden has had the profound misfo35222rtune of reaching office only to find, hemmed in by the usual Republican obstructionism and kneecapped by the mulish intransigence of putative Democrats Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, that there is little he can do with it. Nor is it at all clear that things would be different if he were 40 years younger.
Not to deny Biden’s failings or to dismiss concern over his advanced years. Certainly there would be, in normal times, plenty of room to argue both.
But the point is, these are not normal times. And if, as the saying goes, you don’t change horses in the middle of a stream, you sure as heck shouldn’t do it in the middle of a tsunami.
On Monday, Stuart Stevens, a veteran Republican operative, took to Twitter begging Democrats to understand this. “As a former R. consultant,” he wrote, “I bear responsibility for the democracy eating monster the party became, so I get Dems don’t want to hear this from me. But I’d plead with Dems to rally around (President Biden). He’s your guy. You’re going to win with him or lose with him. Make the choice to win.”
It is advice Republicans would never need to hear and Democrats can’t hear often enough. If we are lucky, there will again come a time when we can afford to argue whether a president is too old or his poll numbers too low. But this is not it. Democracy is under mortal threat.
And you don’t hold a debate in a burning house.
____________
Leonard Pitts Jr. is a columnist for the Miami Herald
"Fascism is on our doorstep"
Nope
God Lord you are a Queen.
Trump’s Former Counsel Says He’s a ‘Disaster’
July 14, 2022 at 5:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 67 Comments
Ty Cobb, who led the Trump White House response to special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, issued a blistering statement about Donald Trump:
“One thing the Democrats know for certain is that Trump’s uncontrolled ego is his own worst enemy. They are PRAYING they are able to goad him into an announcement for a 2024 presidential run.
“A 2024 declaration of his candidacy serves no interest but his self-defeating and overwhelming need for relevance, attention and money. Such an announcement also does not inoculate him from criminal investigation.
“He is a disaster for the Republican Party for which he prevented a Senate majority in 2020 and, as time will demonstrate, has already done the same for 2022 with his endorsements of unelectable candidates all based on their loyalty or his own driving desire for revenge.”
PURE REVENGE, ONLY REVENGE.
HE LOOKS OUT ONLY FOR TRUMP.
HE IS HIS OWN WORST ENEMY.
HE IS THE GOP'S WORST ENEMY.
HE IS AMERICA'S WORST ENEMY.
Roger and James have a tick.
They both have no faith.
Why is Kansas Dim calling Leonard Pitts a queen?
(CNN)The US Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, shortly after they were requested by oversight officials investigating the agency's response to the US Capitol riot, according to a letter given to the House select committee investigating the insurrection and obtained by CNN.
The letter, which was originally sent to the House and Senate Homeland Security Committees by the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General, says the messages were erased from the system as part of a device-replacement program after the watchdog asked the agency for records related to its electronic communications.
"First, the Department notified us that many US Secret Service text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, were erased as part of a device-replacement program. The USSS erased those text messages after OIG requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of events at the Capitol on January 6," the letter from DHS IG Joseph Cuffari stated.
First, the Department notified us that many US Secret Service text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, were erased as part of a device-replacement program. The USSS erased those text messages after OIG requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of events at the Capitol on January 6,” the letter from DHS IG Joseph Cuffari stated.
“Second, DHS personnel have repeatedly told OIG inspectors that they were not permitted to provide records directly to OIG and that such records had to first undergo review by DHS attorneys,” Cuffari added. “This review led to weeks-long delays in OIG obtaining records and created confusion over whether all records had been produced.”
The Intercept was first to report the DHS IG letter.
The US Secret Service and the Homeland Security inspector general did not immediately respond to CNN’s request for comment.
Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Democrat from Mississippi, chairs both the House Homeland Security and January 6 committees. He acknowledged in a statement Thursday evening that the panel had gotten the letter.
“The Committee on Homeland Security received a letter from the DHS Inspector General regarding the Secret Service deleting text messages the Office of Inspector General requested as part of its investigation into the January 6th attack on the Capitol,” Thompson said. “The Committee will be briefed about this extraordinarily troubling destruction of records and respond accordingly.”
While the letter does not say whether the DHS watchdog believes these text messages were erased intentionally or for a nefarious reason, the incident adds to growing questions about the Secret Service’s response to the US Capitol attack.
The Secret Service has been in the spotlight since witnesses have described how former President Donald Trump angrily demanded that his detail take him to the Capitol following his speech at the White House Ellipse – shortly before rioters breached the building.
A former adviser to then-Vice President Mike Pence also referenced the Secret Service in his testimony. Greg Jacob, Pence’s former counsel, told the panel that Pence refused to get into the vice presidential vehicle after being evacuated from the Capitol, raising concerns that the driver would have taken him to a secure location and thus prevent him from certifying the electoral results.
James, it is a shame your hate consumes you.
🙏 for you to find God and Peace.
More than a year after the riot, the Homeland Security inspector general review of the Secret Service and its actions on January 6 remains ongoing.
I called you a Queen James
Please become a better person.
🙏
Top Issue to Voters
The Economy.
Hispanics, Black's, Asians and White find unity .
I'm not sure I put much stock in the prayer of a hater like you who called President Obama BLACK MONKEY in the White House and his wife our First Lady a CHEAP CHICAGO WHORE.
Dinner tonight is 98% from the work of my wife and myself.
Beef, eggs, potatoes Tomatoes, Basil and onions all from our Farm.
Oh they are, see the truth and it will set you free Queen James.
And turns out Jill is a "Cunt".
But we all knew that already.
A few weeks before Cobb left, Trump tweeted: “I have full confidence in Ty Cobb, my Special Counsel, and have been fully advised throughout each phase of this process.”
A lot happened after Cobb’s departure. Mueller ended his probe without charging Trump with any crime. Trump lost the election, refused to concede, and presided over a rally on Jan. 6, 2021 that ended with a mob of his supporters ransacking the Capitol as lawmakers met to certify Joe Biden’s victory.
PURE REVENGE,
ONLYREVENGE.
HE LOOKS OUT ONLY FOR TRUMP.
HE IS HIS OWN WORST ENEMY.
HE IS THE GOP'S WORST ENEMY.
HE IS AMERICA'S WORST ENEMY.
HE IS A FASCIST
Actually James I called Obimbo a " Magic Negro" .
Secret Service deleted J6 text messages after investigators demanded them: DHS inspector general
Bob Brigham
July 14, 2022
The United States Secret Service is in yet another scandal over its performance during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.
"The Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and January 6, 2021, according to a letter given to the January 6 committee and reviewed by The Intercept. The letter was originally sent by the Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General to the House and Senate homeland security committees. Though the Secret Service maintains that the text messages were lost as a result of a 'device-replacement program,' the letter says the erasure took place shortly after oversight officials requested the agency’s electronic communications," The Intercept reported Thursday.
Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified that Trump scuffled with Secret Service agents as he sought to join his MAGA crowd's riot.
"The Department of Homeland Security — Secret Service’s parent agency — is subject to oversight of the DHS Office of Inspector General, which had requested records of electronic communications from the Secret Service between January 5 and 6 of 2021, before being informed that they had been erased. It is unclear from the letter whether all of the messages were deleted, or just some. DHS officials have also pushed back on the OIG’s records request by arguing that the records must first undergo review by DHS attorneys, which has delayed the process and left unclear if the Secret Service records would ever be produced, according to the letter," The Intercept reported.
The established timeline shows the messages were deleted after the request to produce documents.
"A top Secret Service official allegedly involved in the attempt to spirit away Pence on January 6 remains in a leadership position at the agency. Tony Ornato, a Secret Service agent whom Trump made the unprecedented decision to appoint as his deputy White House Chief of Staff, reportedly informed Pence’s national security advisor, Keith Kellogg, on January 6 that agents would relocate the Vice President to Joint Base Andrews," The Intercept reported. "Today, Ornato serves as Assistant Director at the Secret Service’s Office of Training."
CNN confirmed the report.
Obimbo had given US The Lost Years.
BIDENOMICS IS EVEN WORSE.
President Biden is a pedo.
His Wife is a Cunt.
And Hunter is a fun guy.
Lil Schitty once again twists words to make himself look good......I took the SAT' in 1969 probably the same year as Roger where a perfect score was 1600. The school I attended had about 10 kids who scored perfect scores......I doubt the veracity of your claim of 2400 since that happened in 2014 since that was a perfect total after an essay was added.....Sorry sport, the only liar is you!!!!
Then how come Roger states now that his score was 2100?
The SAT used a 2400 point scale till 2016 when it was redesigned to be 1600. You can look that up almost anywhere.
Roger's 1590 would have been the equivalent to 1050 - not exactly MIT or Harvard material!
My score that was right at 2000 (1999) - put me in the 92 percentile. But I took my test as a Jr (as a practice or pretest) but since the score was high enough to get me anywhere I wanted to go... I never retook it as a Sr. Didn't need to.
No doubt I would have scored higher with another year of college prep education under my belt. But I had no real thoughts about Ivy League or MIT. I went to school locally so retaking the test just to get a higher score was moot.
https://blog.collegevine.com/new-sat-vs-old-sat-score-conversion-chart/
Then how come Roger states now that his score was 2100?
Roger lives a life of wishes and what could have been.
So , changing his score is just another time he has been caught lying.
His May 9th, 2022 wedding is another time.
New details on why Pence refused to get into the limosine as the Secret Service wanted him to.
"I'm not getting in that car."
Did they, on Trump's orders, intend to spirit him away.
Perhaps to Alaska?
He refused to leave the Capitol before the votes were certified.
New reports on why Pence refused to get into the limosine and let the Secret Service spirit him away from the Capitol.
"I'm not getting in that car."
Were they planning to spirit him away on Trump's orders?*
He refused to let them take him away before he had done his constitutional duty of certifying the election results.
*Where would he have ended up? Alaska?
Sounds suspicious, and now we have missing Secret Service phone records.
I guess the SS attempt to kidnap Pence is more important than anybody's SAT score.
Anonymous said...
Sounds suspicious, and now we have missing Secret Service phone records.
yep, must have cleared Trump of everything
Remember when the ENTIRE Mueller team lost every single text message from their ENTIRE Trump investigation
every single one
without any backup
and everyone was OK with that
mistakes happen
Kind of like the IRS tapes
and smashing Hillary's electronic devices
odd
Benny Johnson
The BEST VIDEO of the DAY
AOC COMPLETELY Exposed
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1547668738970750980
AOC triggered into unhinged MELTDOWN after Comedian HECKLES her outside U.S Capitol
falsies ???
but what a Booty !!!
CNN sas:
Police Officer Confirms Trump’s Heated Exchange
July 14, 2022 at 7:54 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 8 Comments
“A Washington, DC, police officer has corroborated to the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021, details regarding a heated exchange former President Donald Trump had with his Secret Service detail when he was told he could not go to the US Capitol after his rally,” CNN reports.
“The officer with the Metropolitan Police Department was in the motorcade with the Secret Service for Trump on January 6 and recounted what was seen to committee investigators.”
_____
Taegan Goddard says:
'It seems unlikely that Secret Service text messages from that day were “accidentally” deleted.'
says
mistakes happen
Kind of like the IRS tapes
Kind of like Nixon's erased 18 minutes of tape gap
Uh Oh!
January 6 Committee Will Try to ‘Reconstruct’ Texts
July 14, 2022 at 8:08 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
The chair of the January 6 Committee said the panel will try to ”reconstruct” deleted U.S. Secret Service text messages flagged by an agency watchdog,
Axios reports.
AXIOS
2 hours ago - Politics & Policy
Jan. 6 panel aims to "reconstruct" deleted Secret Service texts
Andrew Solender
The chair of the Jan. 6 select committee on Thursday said the panel will try to ”reconstruct" deleted U.S. Secret Service text messages flagged by an agency watchdog.
Why it matters:
The text messages were from Jan. 5 and 6 and may have contained evidence about key events related to the Capitol attack — the focus of the panel’s hearing next Thursday.
They could shed light on reported efforts to remove former Vice President Mike Pence from the Capitol, and former President Trump's alleged attempts to travel to the Capitol to join his supporters on that day.
The agency — and in particular Anthony Ornato, an agent who also served as White House deputy chief of staff — was a central subject of former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony to the panel last month.
Driving the news:
The inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security, which parents the Secret Service, offered a briefing on the subject in a letter to Jan. 6 Committee Chair Bennie Thompson first reported by The Intercept and obtained by Axios.
Inspector General Joseph Cuffari wrote that DHS said the texts were "erased as part of a device-replacement program."
But, he added, they were erased "after OIG requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of events at the Capitol on Jan. 6." AFTER?
Cuffari also wrote that DHS claimed all records had to be reviewed by the department's attorneys, leading to "weeks-long delays" in obtaining the records and creating "confusion over whether all records had been produced."
What they're saying:
"It's concerning, obviously. If there's a way we can reconstruct the texts or what have you, we will," Thompson, who also chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, told Axios at the Capitol on Thursday.
Thompson said the inspector general "was not clear as to how" the texts were deleted, adding that the committee "asked them some time ago to look at it."
Asked if the committee would bring in Secret Service agents to try to reconstruct the texts, he said, "I think it's important for us to get as much information as much as how this discrepancy occurred."
Thompson said the Jan. 6 panel has not yet interviewed Ornato and Robert Engel, another agent mentioned in Hutchinson's testimony, but said, "We've been talking to them."
Spokespersons for the Secret Service and Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
BET NOT!
Trump turned everything into a pile of shit
Prominent Republicans said
Trump and his allies lost nearly all the more than 60 cases they brought challenging the 2020 election results, the report noted. Twenty were dismissed before a hearing on the merits, 14 were dropped by Trump and his supporters, and 30 included a hearing on the merits, it found.
The group of conservatives argued that Trump and his supporters had “an obligation to recognize that the election debate was over.”
“Questions of election legality must be resolved dispassionately in courts of law, not through rallies and demonstrations—and most emphatically, not by applying political pressure and threats to induce Congress to ignore its constitutional duty and the electoral outcome for which the people voted, and which the legal processes of the affected states had examined and confirmed,” the report says.
The group urged “fellow conservatives to cease obsessing over the results of the 2020 election, and to focus instead on presenting candidates and ideas that offer a positive vision for overcoming our current difficulties and bringing greater peace, prosperity, and liberty to our nation.”
The January 6 committee has held seven public hearings so far, presenting witness testimony from Trump campaign and administration staffers that there was no evidence of election fraud and that Trump disregarded warnings that his plan to overturn the election was illegal. The hearings have also detailed Trump’s pressure campaign at different levels of government and his attempts to enlist the Department of Justice in his efforts.
"A top Secret Service official allegedly involved in the attempt to spirit away Pence on January 6 remains in a leadership position at the agency. Tony Ornato, a Secret Service agent whom Trump made the unprecedented decision to appoint as his deputy White House Chief of Staff, reportedly informed Pence’s national security advisor, Keith Kellogg, on January 6 that agents would relocate the Vice President to Joint Base Andrews," The Intercept reported. "Today, Ornato serves as Assistant Director at the Secret Service’s Office of Training."
Remember when he said that he was going to clean up the White House after the first African American President Obama who was born in Kenya 🇰🇪
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
BIDEN'S APPALLING AMERICA VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1547703505820864515
Pamela Hemphill, 69 yr old cancer patient, going to jail for one misdemeanor count of demonstrating, picketing, or parading in a Capitol building.
I’m appalled beyond words.
How many rioters whose criminal charges were eventually dropped did Kamala & Omar bail out of jail?
Quote Tweet
Jenifa Breeze
@BreezeJenifa
Just arrived at FCI Dublin prison in California with J6 defendant PAMELA HEMPHILL - her last words…”GOD is with me”
they should be ashamed
but they aren't
democrats can go to hell
and meet the Biden's there
How convenient...
We have no real text messages... they were all deleted.
But the Pelosi Cheney "get Trump" committee will use their own judgement to "recreate" hoe the exchanges probably went?
I mean... how stupid do they think Democrats are?
Because lord knows they cannot expect anyone else to believe anything they say on anything.
The bottom line is this is to conceal the
Hutchinson testified that Trump tried to wrestle control of the presidential SUV because he wanted to go to the Capitol, over his security detail’s objections, and reportedly had his hands around the neck of the agent driving the vehicle.
It probably did happen
American Greatness
https://twitter.com/theamgreatness/status/1547711320627093505
A federal judge has sentenced a 69-year-old Idaho grandmother and cancer patient to two months behind bars for parading in the Capitol, a misdemeanor.
https://amgreatness.com/2022/07/14/federal-judge-sentences-69-year-old-grandmother-with-cancer-to-2-months-in-jail-for-parading-in-the-capitol-on-january-6/
Hemphill, a former drug and alcohol counselor, flew to Washington, D.C. from Idaho on Jan. 5 hoping to see the results of the 2020 presidential election overturned. She was arrested in August of 2021.
At her sentencing hearing Tuesday, Senior U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth, a Reagan appointee, flatly told Hemphill that she will be serving time behind bars.
In addition to the 60 days in jail, Hemphill will spend three years on supervised release. Pursuant to her plea agreement, she will also have to pay $500 in restitution toward the estimated $2.7 million in damages to the Capitol.
“I’m heading to the prison! Just know your prayers and support is keeping me going emotionally and spiritually! Love you guys dearly!” she tweeted on Tuesday.
She reported to the FCI Dublin, a low security correctional facility near San Francisco on Wednesday.
In an interview with Newsmax host Greg Kelly Tuesday night, Hemphill said she was “really frightened” and “scared.”
“I’ve never been to jail—ever,” Hemphill said. “I’m really frightened—I’m scared.”
She said she was pushed into the building, and never picketed or paraded.
“But if that’s what they wanted me to plead guilty to, so I thought okay, my lawyer advised me,” Hemphill told Kelly.
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sickening
We are better than this
democrats should never be allowed to be in power again
I mean... how stupid do they think Democrats are?
Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
It probably did happen
Asked and answered
Scott you know that they can do it because you know enough about computers 🖥 but you have lost your mind Scott
The chair of the January 6 Committee said the panel will try to ”reconstruct” deleted U.S. Secret Service text messages flagged by an agency watchdog, Axios reports.
Julie Kelly 🇺🇸
https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1547705887350870018
Why did Biden’s DHS erase the texts after congressional investigators sought them
Stinks to high heaven
and now Schiff and company will "recreate" them
unfuckingbelievable
unless you have Mega TDS
It wasn’t until sometime in February 2021 that Cuffari’s office requested that the Secret Service produce records that centered on Jan. 6 and the days leading up to the attack on the Capitol, seeking internal agency communications, memorandums, emails and telephonic records such as text messages.
By the time of the request, the people said, as many as a third of Secret Service personnel had been given new cellphones.
This is where it gets interesting
Most of the replacement program began with staff in Washington offices, and if they did not back up their old text messages, the people said, the information from Jan. 6 and the days before that is lost. That could conceivably include the texts sent and received by former White House deputy chief of staff Tony Ornato and former Trump security detail leader Bobby Engel and other senior leaders in the Secret Service.
This device replacement program, and resulting failure to back-up texts, does not appear to affect emails.
The Secret Service has a policy requiring employees to back up and store government communications when they retire old electronic or telephonic devices, but in practice, staff do not consistently back up texts from phones.
A similar issue came up in 2018, when the Justice Department inspector general said he used “forensic tools” to recover missing text messages from two senior FBI officials who had investigated Hillary Clinton and Trump and exchanged notes critical of the president. The missing messages generated criticism when GOP leaders and the president questioned how the FBI failed to preserve them.
Text messages were deleted.
They have been planning this for years
Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, said lawmakers “need to get to the bottom of whether the Secret Service destroyed federal records or the Department of Homeland Security obstructed oversight.”
“The DHS Inspector General needs these records to do its independent oversight and the public deserves to have a full picture of what occurred on January 6th,” he said in a statement. “I will be learning more from the DHS Inspector General about these concerning allegations.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/14/secret-service-texts-erased/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/14/us/politics/secret-service-text-messages-jan-6.html?smid=url-share
They have more information
I posted a link to this and cracked Scott censored me
Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide, testified before the panel that a top White House official told her Mr. Trump had become enraged when his security detail refused to take him to the Capitol.
Ms. Hutchinson said she had been told by Anthony M. Ornato, a deputy White House chief of staff, that Mr. Trump tried to grab the wheel of his vehicle when he was told he could not go to the Capitol to join his supporters, some of whom he had been told were armed. Ms. Hutchinson also said Mr. Ornato told her the president “lunged” at his lead Secret Service agent, Robert Engel.
Secret Service officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, disputed some details in her account. But the officials did say Mr. Engel, Mr. Ornato and the driver of the Suburban were prepared to testify again before the committee and confirm another element of Ms. Hutchinson’s testimony: that Mr. Trump demanded his agents take him to the Capitol, even after they emphasized that it was too dangerous for him to go.
The disclosure about the Secret Service text messages came from Joseph V. Cuffari, the Homeland Security Department’s inspector general. He wrote to the House and Senate committees with jurisdiction over the department on Wednesday, saying that many Secret Service text messages from Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, 2021, “were erased as part of a device replacement program.”
Mr. Cuffari wrote that the texts were erased after the inspector general’s office started an investigation into Jan. 6 and requested electronic communications from the agency. He also reported that Secret Service personnel were declining to provide records to his office without first having department lawyers review them, a process that he said was causing “weekslong delays” and “confusion.”
A spokesman for the Secret Service did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/14/us/politics/secret-service-text-messages-jan-6.html
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I waw just thinking the same thing...
I asked.
Roger specifically answered by repeating the debunked story that Trump tried to take a steering wheel!
The Secret Service is cooperating.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secret Service agents deleted text messages sent and received around the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol even after an inspector general requested them as part of an investigation into the insurrection, the government watchdog has found.
The Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General, in a letter obtained by The Associated Press, said the messages between Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, 2021, were erased “as part of a device-replacement program.” The erasure came after th5 minutes ago e watchdog office requested records of electronic communications between the agents as part of its probe into events surrounding the Jan. 6 attack, the letter said.
Additionally, Homeland Security personnel were told they couldn't provide records to the inspector general and any such records would first have to be reviewed by DHS attorneys.
“This review led to a weeks-long delays in OIG obtaining records and created confusion over whether all records had been produced,” states the letter, which was dated Wednesday and sent to leaders of the House and Senate Homeland Security committees.
Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi objected to the letter Thursday night, saying: “The insinuation that the Secret Service maliciously deleted text messages following a request is false. In fact, the Secret Service has been fully cooperating with the OIG in every respect — whether it be interviews, documents, emails, or texts.”
Ap 5 minutes ago
Secret Service officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, disputed some details in her account. But the officials did say Mr. Engel, Mr. Ornato and the driver of the Suburban were prepared to testify again before the committee and confirm another element of Ms. Hutchinson’s testimony: that Mr. Trump demanded his agents take him to the Capitol, even after they emphasized that it was too dangerous for him to go.
He actually wanted to go to the Capital on January 6th and lead the insurrection himself
Scoop
WASHINGTON—Members of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol are discussing the next steps in their investigation, including whether to seek an interview with former Vice President Mike Pence and potentially ex-President Donald Trump, according to one of the Republican members of the panel.
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R., Ill.), the panel member who will be leading some of the questioning at next Thursday’s prime-time hearing, said in an interview ahead of a meeting Thursday that the panel could decide to request a written interview with Mr. Pence. The committee could also discuss whether to issue a subpoena to the former vice president to try to compel him to testify, he said.
The committee is also weighing whether it will ask Mr. Trump to testify, Mr. Kinzinger said. Earlier this year, Chairman Bennie Thompson (D., Miss.) had signaled it was unlikely that the panel would call Mr. Trump but other members indicated it was still under consideration.
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Mr. Thompson told reporters Tuesday that the question of whether to interview Mr. Pence would be part of the discussion at Thursday’s meeting. Late Thursday evening, Mr. Thompson and members of the committee gathered again. Asked if the panel planned to seek testimony from Mr. Pence, Mr. Thompson said: “We haven’t made a decision.”
Mr. Trump has said he has done nothing wrong and has called the select committee a partisan witch hunt, while continuing to falsely maintain the election was stolen. Aides didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment about the possible request for his testimony.
Mr. Kinzinger in his speech warned that the former president’s continuing claims that the election was stolen present a threat to American democracy. “When you start to convince half of the country that their vote was stolen, because of some momentary desire for power, you will destroy a democracy,” he said.
Mr. Kinzinger said the committee is likely to have additional hearings around the time it issues a final report, expected in the fall, with the possibility of other hearings in between.
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Mr. Kinzinger, who isn’t running for reelection, was one of 10 House Republicans to join Democrats last year in voting to impeach Mr. Trump over his actions on Jan. 6. Mr. Trump was acquitted in the Senate
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A group of prominent conservatives released a new report Thursday outlining their investigation into the 2020 election and have concluded former President Trump's claims of a stolen election are unfounded.
The report, "LOST NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election," was put together by three former federal judges and eight conservative leaders who investigated Trump's claims.
Over the course of a year, the group looked at all 64 cases of the Trump campaign's fraudulent claims in six key states and concluded that there were no substantial instances of fraud that would have changed the election results. The report goes state by state and claim by claim, taking time to investigate each legal case.
Fears of further damage to the electoral process drove the report, as allegations of fraud continue. Investigators said they fear that Trump supporters' unwillingness to see the election as lost could come back to haunt them if they flip the majority in the House and Senate this cycle.
"I think there is a lack of recognition that that goes both ways and that, should Republicans take over, you're opening the door for Democrats to say the same thing, and that corrodes the basic fundamental part of our democracy," Benjamin Ginsberg, an election attorney who has worked in Republican politics for decades, told FOX News.
Ginsberg, along with former senators John Danforth and Gordon H. Smith and longtime Republican congressional chief of staff David Hoppe, as well as former Solicitor General Ted Olson and former federal appeals court judges Michael Luttig, Michael McConnell and Thomas Griffith concluded that there were no substantial claims of fraud to change the election.
Griffith told Fox he felt it was important a group of conservatives do an investigation rather than rely on outside sources to investigate.
"I contacted Ben and a number of other longtime political conservatives to say, 'Let's look at this ourselves. Let's not rely on what The New York Times is telling us or our other outlets are telling us. Let's look at this ourselves. Let's spend the time. Let's do a deep dive into each of the contested states,'" Griffith said.
The report acknowledges that changes in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic could have created opportunity for more fraud but found that was not the case.
"The performance of the system in 2020 was all the more remarkable because of the extraordinary circumstances caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, which precipitated changes on an unprecedented scope and timeline," according to the report.
"Some of those changes may have created possibilities for fraud, but there is no evidence that those risks materialized in reality; nor did they result in dampening voter participation. Quite the opposite. Nonetheless, moving forward, the states should redouble their efforts to strengthen the integrity of our voting systems and make it as easy to vote and as hard to cheat as possible for persons of every circumstance."
Claims of the 2020 election being stolen continue to come up on the campaign trail both from Trump and from potential voters. At a rally in Alaska recently, Trump said ballot counting needs to be watched.
"Democrats have proven, unfortunately, that the vote counter is far more important than the candidate is," Trump said.
This is exactly the kind of rhetoric Ginsberg, Griffith and their fellow authors insist is harmful to both the country and the Republican Party.
"One of the effects that the charges of fraudulent elections has is that it's going to depress Republican turnout — that if voters come to think their votes don't matter because the results are rigged, they'll stay home," Ginsberg said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prominent-conservatives-election-lost-not-stolen
A Customs and Border Protection official provided The Intercept with a document illustrating the challenges. A briefing memo produced by the agency for a leadership meeting with the DHS Office of Inspector General on July 7 instructs participants on how to push back against what it calls the inspector general’s “persistent” request for “direct, unfettered access to CBP systems,” as part of its “high number of OIG audits covering a variety of CBP program areas.” In a section titled “Watch Out For/ If Asked,” the memo describes a number of exemptions Customs and Border Protection can rely on to evade records requests from the inspector general’s office — including national security exemptions.
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