Saturday, August 13, 2022

If there was a standing order to declassify all materials Trump took to Mar-a-Lago...

then markings on the documents seized are irrelevant


So there a ton of rumors and everyone seems to be trying to fit round pegs into square holes on this one. The issues are simple:
  • The Presidential Records Act has no criminal statute. There is no manner to charge someone in this dispute. That is why everyone references 18 U.S. Code § 2071 when they talk about criminal charges. Many times trying to make you believe that the penalties from this code are the same as violating the Presidential Records Act. They are not. 
  • 18 U.S. Code § 2071 is the removal of classified information. It would not apply if there was a standing declassification order. These documents were moved while he was still President and would qualify under the standing order for declassification. 
  • The existence of this standing order is not difficult to ascertain as the President was known to work after hours at Mar-a-Lago and would many times bring classified documents home with him. Nobody from the Trump White House disputes that this standing order existed. So if this is a crime now, it would have been a crime throughout his Presidency.
  • The ability of the President to declassify documents has been seen by the courts to be pretty liberal. Examples have existed from President to President of instant declassification. If the FBI tried to charge him with 18 U.S. Code § 2071 - the courts would likely toss that out. However, most of the legal analysts that I read do not believe the DOJ would charge this (especially after not charging Clinton).
This is why the buzz has been about the "espionage act" (18 U.S. Code § 793) rather than the Presidential records act or the concealment act (18 U.S. Code § 2071). The espionage act if focused on military issues (thus the nuclear angle) and requires a much more specific proof of intent. This might explain the larger court order to justify taking just about anything they wanted from the Trump residence. If viewed through this lens, they are attempting to find any evidence that Trump was planning on using this information for the purpose of "harming the United States" or providing "advantage of any foreign nation" which would be necessary to make that case.

Of course, Andrew McCarthy is absolutely convinced that the entire thing is a pretense to garner an all encompassing warrant in order to go after materials tied to the Jan 6th investigation. Under this theory Garland and Wray would have gone to a judge with a "tip" or something suggesting that Trump had dangerous national defense secrets and was just about ready to use them for nefarious means and that they needed a broad warrant in order to stop this conspiracy from happening. All the while, they were just looking for an excuse to look for materials from Jan 6th (for which they would likely never get a warrant for).  

Time will tell who is ultimately right. But unless the FBI uncovers the actual nefarious plot to go along with the documents that they took, then they are going to come out of this looking very poorly to most Americans. Moreover, even if they happened to find something Jan 6th related, the legal debates on the legitimacy of gathering that from a warrant regarding national security would be intense. 

Many of these questions could be answered if the AG would only provide the affidavit for transparency so we would know the actual pretense for this raid. Only then can we judge both the legitimacy of the military style raid as well as judge the relevancy of what it is that they found. 

48 comments:

Myballsinthewoodsagain said...

Obama took millions of documents, storing them in that empty warehouse in Chicago. Hillary had an entire server in her bathroom. Biden still has millions of documents hidden from public from his senate days. And a president can declassify anything he wants. If this was so urgent. Why wait 18 months?

This has brought the country one step closer to another civil war.

Caliphate4vr said...

The ability of the President to declassify documents has been seen by the courts to be pretty liberal. Examples have existed from President to President of instant declassification. If the FBI tried to charge him with 18 U.S. Code § 2071 - the courts would likely toss that ou

Didn’t I say Monday that president’s can pretty much declassify anything?

LOL

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump SAYS there was such a standing order.

BS. It takes a process to declassify documents.

ALSO, Mediaite points out

The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) released a statement on Friday roundly debunking former President Donald Trump’s allegation that former President Barack Obama improperly handled classified records.

Trump has made the allegation multiple times but repeated it yet again on Friday morning in a statement. “President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!” Trump wrote in an email release via his Save America PAC.


INTERESTED IN FACTS? READ ON:

The NARA hit back and offered the facts surrounding the documents Obama, like all ex-presidents, took to be placed in his presidential library.

“The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of Obama Presidential records when President Barack Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act (PRA),” the statement began, adding:

NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration.

THE ARTICLE CONTINUES.
You are full of BULL, CH.

Trump’s accusation regarding Obama stems from the FBI raiding his Florida mansion on Monday in search of classified material Trump allegedly took with him when leaving the White House.

The Wall Street Journal reported on Friday morning on the contents of what the FBI took during the search. “FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home Monday removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as top secret and meant to be only available in special government facilities,” the Journal reported after reviewing official documentation.

The National Archives retrieved materials improperly taken by Trump back in January. The items included “personal letters and gifts Mr. Trump had received, including correspondence with Kim Jong-un and a congratulatory letter that former President Barack Obama left for Mr. Trump,” reported the New York Times.

“These records should have been transferred to NARA from the White House at the end of the Trump administration in January 2021,” the National Archives said in a statement at the time.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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anonymous said...

then markings on the documents seized are irrelevant

BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Sure scotty!!!!!

Scotty, your lack of understanding about the classification process is astounding.....you just don't announce something is declassified and it magically happens....there is a large protocol and procedure that must be followed to do that!!!!! Sorry sport, but your defense will not fly!!!!!!!! They really got him by his ballz this time!!!!!

Funny the ball less wonder is alleging the same BS about Obama and the Hillary fuck up did not include compartmentalized information!!!!! Sorry boys.....he is hung out to dry!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Well Reverend...

I guess we will see who is right about whether Presidents can declassify information. At the end of the day it is a constitutional issue and no President has had any pushback from any declassification.

A great example of this happens when a President feels that someone without the clearance to view something needs to see it. The President can literally "Declassify" something like that on the spot. They don't need to go through the people they provide the authority to.

It was well known that Trump worked while at Mar-a-Lago and brought classified information there to work on. However, he would have to declassify the information in order to move it.

Again... nobody in the White House is disputing this assertion.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

An inventory of the material taken from Mr. Trump’s home that was released on Friday showed that F.B.I. agents had seized 11 sets of documents during the search with some type of confidential or secret marking on them, including some marked as “classified/TS/SCI” — shorthand for “top secret/sensitive compartmented information.” Information categorized in that fashion is meant to be viewed only in a secure government facility.

The search encompassed not just the storage area where boxes of material known to the Justice Department were being held but also Mr. Trump’s office and residence. The search warrant and inventory unsealed on Friday did not specify where in the Mar-a-Lago complex the documents marked as classified were found.

Mr. Trump said on Friday that he had declassified all the material in his possession while he was still in office. He did not provide any documentation that he had done so.

If they charge him the odds are against him

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

We shall see how much of what you say holds up, Ch, and how much of it is spin.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The following day, as a judge unsealed the warrant and the inventory of items that the F.B.I. took, Mr. Trump alternately claimed he did nothing wrong and also made the baseless statement that officials may have planted evidence on him.


If they file charges he will have trouble finding a lawyer willing to take on this case.

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...


However, most of the legal analysts that I read do not believe the DOJ would charge this (especially after not charging Clinton).

and remember this is Hillary.

She never was president

though she claimed the election was stolen from her

INSURRECTIONIST !!!

especially after all that fake Russian collusion hoax seeds she planted

kind of like the race baiters she and the DNC planted in Trump rallies

whatever they accuse you of they are doing themselves

or are themselves

proven again and again

like the lying and weaseling oily "pastor"

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The bottom line that he did not have the authority to do what you said

These documents were moved while he was still President and would qualify under the standing order for declassification. 

C.H. Truth said...

I am going to go with history here Reverend. Everything the FBI has previously accused Trump of was a hoax. They proved a willingness to use fake info in the past to justify warrants.

There is no history of the FBI actually proving anything they have alleged and "investigated " against Trump.

Why should we believe them this time?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“At least one lawyer for former President Donald Trump signed a written statement in June asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government,” the New York Times reports.

“The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division.”

“The existence of the signed declaration, which has not previously been reported, is a possible indication that Mr. Trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material.”

This explains why the obstruction of justice statute was on the warrant.

Even Jim Jordan is not as crazy as you 😜

Caliphate4vr said...

We went through this 5 years ago and Trump boxed their ears in

Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador

They never learn

LOL

Anonymous said...

Russia is getting richer selling oil and Gas and Fertilizer to The USA customers.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Can a President Legally Remove Declassified Information from the White House?

No, say security experts. There are other laws protecting the country’s most sensitive secrets that go beyond classification. For example, according to Aftergood, some of the information and documents related to nuclear weapons cannot be declassified by the president. Aftergood said such information is protected by another piece of legislation, the Atomic Energy Act.

Another law — called “Collecting, Transmitting, or Losing Defense Information” — says it’s illegal to remove national security-related documents from their proper location if doing so could jeopardize the security of the country, regardless of the classification level of the document Information.

“Classification is only part of the picture,” Aftergood said. There are other legal safeguards that can make disclosure or unauthorized retention problematic or even a criminal offense.

Removing certain property and documents from the White House would also violate the Presidential Records Act, which requires presidents to keep official records throughout their term. The law states that records of a presidency are public property and do not belong to the president or the White House team. Violating the Records Act would be a civil, not a criminal, offence.

rrb said...

Blogger Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The bottom line that he did not have the authority to do what you said



He most certainly did, imbecile.

The fact that Biden, Garland, Wray and you suffer from Stage IV TDS does not provide a legal pathway to charge Trump for doing something he had the legal right to do.

In a last gasp 'Hail Mary' attempt to disqualify Trump from running in 2024, you assholes have pulled a stunt that has motivated the GOP voters to go to the polls more than any RNC GOTV effort could've ever dreamed of.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Will have be charged for

A search warrant unsealed around 3:45 p.m. on Friday reveals that federal authorities are investigating whether former President Donald Trump assembled documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida in violation of three specific federal statutes.

Don't bet for him.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Yrump...rhetoric caused
The Florida magistrate judge who approved the search warrant on former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago home has been targeted with anti-semitic comments and insults in the days since the raid happened, according to multiple reports.

And the guy in Cincinnati who was on January 6th Attack was killed by the police officer


People like you are close to triggering a civil war

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I think that what Trump claimed about Obama taking millions of classified documents with him when he left the White House (as balls repeated at the beginning of this thread's comments) has been thoroghly debunked.

So why didn't you allow my last two posts stating that?

C.H. Truth said...

Another law — called “Collecting, Transmitting, or Losing Defense Information” — says it’s illegal to remove national security-related documents from their proper location if doing so could jeopardize the security of the country, regardless of the classification level of the document Information.

All these laws have the same thing in common..

They need to so that there was an actual security breach or that the President was looking to use the documents to cause harm. Given that our own intelligence wasn't sure what was there or where it was (an obvious fact given they were there for 9 hours)... then how would it be a security concern? That some foreign agent can break into Mar-a-Lago and walk out with top secret military information.


Again... this is very simple.

They will not (or at least no reasonable prosecutor would) charge him for simply "having" documents that he maintains were declassified and that the FBI had not found from previous searches.


Intent... always a problem.

Never considered by the whacky TDS clowns who pass along their elaborate theories about "how" to figure out a crime that doesn't really just jump out and make itself apparent.

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

New York Times reports.

fake news outlet on steroids

and the FBI has had access to these documents for months and were actually boxed and sent to him

they were not hidden

and a search warrant for any document over a FOUR-YEAR period ?

Garland calls that a narrow warrant !!!

what a fucking liar

C.H. Truth said...

Another law — called “Collecting, Transmitting, or Losing Defense Information” — says it’s illegal to remove national security-related documents from their proper location if doing so could jeopardize the security of the country, regardless of the classification level of the document Information.

All these laws have the same thing in common..

They need to prove that there was an actual security breach or that the President was looking to use the documents to cause harm to the country. Given that our own intelligence wasn't sure what was there or where it was (an obvious fact given they were there for 9 hours)... then how would it be a security concern? That some foreign agent can break into Mar-a-Lago and walk out with top secret military information.


Again... this is very simple.

They will not (or at least no reasonable prosecutor would) charge him for simply "having" documents that he maintains were declassified and that the FBI had not found from previous searches.


Intent... always a problem.

Never considered by the whacky TDS clowns who pass along their elaborate theories about "how" to figure out a crime that doesn't really just jump out and make itself apparent.

If you have to "look" for something to view as a crime... it's not very criminal

C.H. Truth said...

Reverend...

Explain what you want to explain in your own words and if you have legal documents (not opinions) to back that up.... then use is.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger...

Did you have the same issue with the people protesting and threatening the USSC Justices?

Our DOJ and the Biden Administration has made it clear!


Don't like what a Judge does...

You are free to harass them all you want without consequence.

That is the Biden Policy that you supported previously.

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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ch, PROVE there was "a standing order" to declassify all documents.

"Because Trump now says there was" will not do that.

Myballsinthewoodsagain said...

Obama certainly did take all those documents with him. That has not been debunked. They all do. What the hell does James think goes into all the presidential libraries? Taegan Goddard articles?

C.H. Truth said...

Hey Reverend..

Trump is innocent until proven guilty. It would be up to Prosecutors to prove the items are not declassified.

Seems to me that same burden of proof is on you.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ch, tell us quite simply in your own words

1)how many millions of documents Obama took with him when he left the White House.

2) Tell us where he took them to,
and tell us how many of them in his possession were not classified and how many were.

3) Tell us how many of those documents in both categories Obama himself has control over.

4) Tell us where the Obama administration's nuclear secrets are kept and who has control over them.

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Yet, Yellen, Powell, Pelosi / Schumer/Biden said it doesn't exist.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

NBC News says that you are full of shut 😒

"As the facts stand now, his defense would be, ‘I declassified those documents. I am not therefore in possession of classified documents now,'” said Charles Stimson, a senior fellow with the conservative Heritage Foundation and a former federal prosecutor.

Others take a different view — including, it seems, the FBI, which executed a search warrant at Trump's Florida resort on Monday tied to classified information Trump allegedly took with him from the White House in January 2021. Trump lawyer Christina Bobb said Tuesday that the warrant left by agents indicated they were investigating possible violations of laws dealing with the handling of classified material and the Presidential Records Act.


Trump being treated like 'average citizen' by AG Garland, Chuck Todd says
The 1978 Presidential Records Act, which requires presidents to turn over documents to the National Archives at the end of their administration, lacks an enforcement mechanism, but there are multiple federal laws regarding the handling of classified documents. Trump signed one such law in 2018, increasing the penalty for "unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material" from one year to five years in prison.

But those in Trump’s orbit say that no president is personally bound by the removal and retention rules governing classified documents, which can be declassified if the president simply says they are, according to Ric Grenell, who was Trump’s acting director of national intelligence and who handled highly classified information.


“There is no approval process for the president of the United States to declassify intelligence. There is this phony idea that he must provide notification for declassification but that’s just silly. Who is he supposed to notify? I think it’s the height of swampism to think the president should seek bureaucrats’ approval,” Grenell told NBC News, emphasizing that he wasn’t personally speaking for the president.

Trump himself said on his Truth Social platform Friday, "It was all declassified."

Richard Immerman, a historian and an assistant deputy director

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

In doing a quick search for the executive order about Trump declassifying all documents he took to Mar-a-Lago which I know I've seen before since he took so many with him to work on I came across this interesting tidbit



New Questions for the Record for @FBI Dir. Wray, from @ChuckGrassley
...

https://grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fbi_oversight_hearing_questions_for_the_record_-_senator_grassley.pdf

1. You can't find what you won't look for. The @FBI sought no warrant for the Clinton laptops. Instead it negotiated and agreed not to look at the most important stuff.

https://twitter.com/JsnFostr/status/1557868212334854146

Banana Republic

no equal justice

Biden's stormtroopers

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/breaking-trump-describes-process-how-he-declassified-documents

https://truthpress.com/news/new-twist-in-fbi-raid-trump-had-standing-order-to-declassify-documents-taken-to-residence/

didn't find the actual document but I've seen it with Trumps easily recognized signature so here's a couple of articles referencing it

Maybe Biden doesn't work away from the office so he doesn't need one ?

C.H. Truth said...

To answer your questions Reverend...

He took more documents than Trump
He is storing them in a warehouse in Chicago
Nobody knows what he took or what was in them


Because prior to Trump, there was never any real scrutiny over what was took.



But apparently, once again... you only like to ask question, not answer them. So perhaps you should try your hand on proving that Trump did not declassify those documents (since a President does not go through an official declassification process as other people must). Is it even provable that he didn't?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott there is an FBI informant in the former president's inner circle who has been assisting the Department of Justice.

That makes the investigation legitimate to jurors.

Anonymous said...

The last FBI agent had scarcely cleared the gates of President Trump’s Mar-A-Lago estate when the Deep State was on the attack. The Washington Post ran an unsourced story alleging that, along with picture albums, a tour of Melania Trump’s closet, and Roger Stone’s clemency letter, “[c]lassified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday.” See  Nuclear Hot Social Media Takes on Washington Post’s ‘Bombshell’ Report About FBI Raid.

This naturally set progressive hearts aflutter. Showing the same critical thought exhibited when they were punked for four years by a has-been Brit spy and opposition research firm hired by Hillary Clinton, the left jumped on the story.

They weren’t the only ones making hay of the obvious bullsh** spread by the Washington Post. Russian television host and Duma member from Putin’s United Russia Party, Yevgeny Popov, was right on top of it.

Lock her up with Barack Hussein Obama.

And impeachment Sleepy Joe Biden and Cumaswaloower Harris

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump has offered no details about how the supposed declassification took place, and a former Trump administration aide, Kash Patel, has said that even though Trump did declassify the records, the White House counsel’s office never provided the required paperwork.


But whether the former president actually declassified the documents may not ultimately matter. The Espionage Act, for instance, does not distinguish between classified and declassified materials – unauthorized retention of any document relevant to the statute remains a crime.

Documents marked as top secret are also meant only to be viewed in secure rooms known as sensitive compartmented information facilities, or SCIFs, and their presence in a basement storage area at Mar-a-Lago appears to satisfy the technical elements of a violation of law.

You won't post this

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I believe that any document that fficially, really has been declassified must by law be marked accordingly, and those found by the FBI were not so marked.

C.H. Truth said...

Well we will see Reverend...

All it takes is a single juror to agree with Trump and his arguments that he could declassify things...

If we actually ever got to a point where they would really "jump the shark" and try to charge him with something to do with classified information after never charging Clinton, not charging Comey, or any number of people.


The ONLY chance they have of a conviction would be to find smoking gun evidence that he had a criminal intent with the documents. That he was actually trying to sell them or use them in a way that harmed the United States.

That is the main key argument that has to be proven in any espionage charge. Not that they have classified documents, but that they had real tangible plans to use them to harm the U.S.

C.H. Truth said...

Same thing to you Roger...

as you posted the same thing multiple times about the Espionage Act...

If you actually bothered to read the statute... it clearly states that there has to be two elements... the gathering of national security documents and the intent to use those documents to cause harm to the United States and/or assist a foreign country.


Simply "having" document is the mishandling charge that the DOJ did not charge Hillary, Comey, or many others... Simply having it does not qualify as a crime under the espionage act.

Espionage is a more "serious" crime because it involves the element of "actual" espionage. The idea of espionage in business would be to provide business secrets to a competing business. For the Federal government espionage generally involves cooperation with a foreign power (spying for them so to speak).

To move a crime from mishandling of documents to espionage REQUIRES the proof that there was nefarious planning or nefarious actions.


I won't argue with either of you anymore.

Read the Statute rather than politicawire.com. You could learn something on your own that it actually factual for a change.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You really have no idea about my ability to read and remember highly complicated things.

Unlike you I make up my own mind about almost everything.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Espionage Act will not be used because it is almost impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Donald Trump's legal predicament may have worsened, legal experts said, after a bombshell report published Saturday evening by The New York Times.

"The Justice Department also subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago recorded over a 60-day period, including views from outside the storage room. According to a person briefed on the matter, the footage showed that, after one instance in which Justice Department officials were in contact with Mr. Trump’s team, boxes were moved in and out of the room," Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush reported. "That activity prompted concern among investigators about the handling of the material. It is not clear when precisely the footage was from during the lengthy back-and-forth between Justice Department officials and Mr. Trump’s advisers, or whether the subpoena to Mr. Trump seeking additional documents had already been issued.

Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti noted the story and tweeted, "It sounds like DOJ has reason to be concerned that it *still* may not have recovered all of the classified material taken by Trump."

Watergate prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks said, "obviously that raises many questions since it was false. If true, FBI couldn't have left with 21 more boxes in August."

Law Prof. Rick Hasen wrote, "Do any of us doubt that someone besides Trump or someone in Trump's orbit who lied about possessing such documents and didn't give them back would already be held in custody pending further proceedings?"

Attorney Pam Keith said Attorney General Merrick Garland "still hasn’t detained or even questioned Trump. People are acting like that’s normal or justifiable. Given what we know, It’s INSANE!!"

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I repeat:
It seems established that as an essential part of the declassification process, officially declassified documents must be MARKED as declassified, and the documents found by the FBI are not so marked.

Trump can claim he declassified them with a wave of his hand all he wants, but he still broke the law.
____

Oh, and it also seems also established that intent to do harm to the United States is not requisite in proving that flagrant disregard for the proper handling of top secret documents is punishable by law.

Trump may as well start kissing all his hopes for occupying any future office goodbye.

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

DisHonest, indecent, untruthful and ignorant Rev. said...
I believe that any document that fficially, really has been declassified must by law be marked accordingly, and those found by the FBI were not so marked.

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so the "pastor" thinks there is just an original document that is carried around everywhere by one individual and not stored in a central repository which contains the current classification status.

And when you are done with that document you must return it so someone else can see it and maintain its classification status.

That's the law

In looneyville

Well maybe the FBI can then announce who the Supreme Court leaker is.

The person with the confidential draft checked out

ROFLMFAO !!!

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
You really have no idea about my ability to read and remember highly complicated things.

Unlike you I make up my own mind about almost everything.

_______________________________

roger keeps his memory and reading skills very well hidden

he must be working on something very confidential

and he thinks everyone else is operating under mind control

ROFLMFAO !!!

22 days !!!

maybe then we could get rid of content moderation except for the lying POS "pastor" ?

rrb said...

Blogger Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You really have no idea about my ability to read and remember highly complicated things.



That's right alky. You're a legend in your own mind. A legend who will die in an insane asylum.