Monday, August 22, 2022

The Kansas Abortion Referendum proves that Dobbs was the correct call

Recounts confirming abortion rights in Kansas is more powerful than a court decision


Dobbs really didn't take away any rights from Americans, but rather provided them first hand rights to make decisions on a state by state level. In Kansas, a referendum was offered to voters to clarify whether the Kansas constitution should ban abortion or assume abortion to be legal by default.  The vote went fairly significantly towards legal abortion. 

So now if you are pro-life you can no longer blame Roe or the courts for the fact that your state offers legal abortion. You must accept the will of the people as the reason that abortion is legal in your state. It then falls on you to win the hearts and minds of more voters moving forward is you want your viewpoint to be the one enacted into law. 

This is the way that these things should go. Obviously not every state will have a specific referendum or offer a constitutional amendment (although they could). But every voter in every state can now vote for state office holders that share their view on this issue and know that it could actually make a difference?

Hmmmm... having a vote that makes a difference rather than pushing to pack a court to make voting on certain issues irrelevant? Isn't that how Democracy is supposed to work? 

24 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's the Federalist Philosophy is in control over the Republican Party of Trump.

Of course state governments can make the decision.

Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

There was a time when Americans had a "right" to decide on the state level whether blacks could vote on the local, state, and federal levels.

I guess one could claim at the time that that was a constitutionally granted "right," so why did the Supreme Court overturn that "right"?

For once, I really would like to have that question answered without a lot of obfuscatory maneuvering, Ch.

rrb said...



Federalism. Exactly as the founders had envisioned. And why they structured our government as a representative republic -

Federalism is a mixed or compound mode of government that combines a general government (the central or "federal" government) with regional governments (provincial, state, cantonal, territorial, or other sub-unit governments) in a single political system, dividing the powers between the two.


Once again the alky shows his complete ignorance of civics.

That 137 IQ of his is poetry in motion, if your poetry has just pounded down a fifth of Jack Daniel's and tried to descend a long staircase.



rrb said...



Educate yourself, alky. Lest you like like even more of an imbecile...

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/federalism/

Anonymous said...

KD.
Roger, I saw your Governor has a plan.
Keep a couple of trillion of gallons of fresh water from reaching the Pacific Ocean.
The environment nuts apposed it.
Do you support it?

C.H. Truth said...

I guess one could claim at the time that that was a constitutionally granted "right," so why did the Supreme Court overturn that "right"?

They didn't...

The Voting Rights Act of 1965 did!

It is called legislation! How our democracy works. Because how to vote is part of our constitution and it is defined at the federal level, that was something that the Federal Government could pass.

If the Federal Government got their shit together, decided to come up with a compromise that did a little bit of pissing off to both sides (possibly a lot with the extremes)

Then our Federal Congress could pass abortion legislation as well... at least that is the consensus although I am quite positive it would be challenged under the 10th amendment.

Caliphate4vr said...

Blogger Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
There was a time when Americans had a "right" to decide on the state level whether blacks could vote on the local, state, and federal levels.


Pedo since the action taken inKansas was by popular vote, please show where Jim Crow laws were enacted by popular vote or

Shut…
The…
Fuck…
Up…

Anonymous said...

KD.
Are James and Roger intentionally stupid or is it just them being so spectacularly uneducated?

Caliphate4vr said...

Blogger Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
It's the Federalist Philosophy is in control over the Republican Party of Trump.

Of course state governments can make the decision.

Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave


Do you understand TJ was against a strong federal government or Federalists and believed in states rights?

Or are you so fucking demented, you have no idea of that on which, you erroneously pontificate?

Idiot

C.H. Truth said...

Roger had just over two weeks to see Trump in jail...

Otherwise he says he would leave the blog!

I say we let him back in if Trump goes to Prison. Which if it ever did happen (and I find it unlikely that it will happen) would be 2023 at the earliest.


What are you going to do with all your time Roger?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

please show where Jim Crow laws were enacted by popular vote

If you think Jim Crow laws did not have popular support in the old majority white South, you really are out of it.

C.H. Truth said...

The Reverend is correct...

Those old dixiecrat Democrats were racist as shit! No question Jim Crow and southern Democrats were hand in hand!

We even had a KKK member (Democrat Robert Byrd) who got elected and ended up in leadership.

Caliphate4vr said...

And pedo can’t back up his assertion, yet again

LOL

Caliphate4vr said...

Reverend instead comparing apples and oranges you compare apples and styrofoam coolers.

You really are stupid

Anonymous said...

KD.
The US 🇺🇸 Strategic Petroleum Reserve is at a 35 year low.

At every point Biden Policies have failed Americans.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...


Those old dixiecrat Democrats were racist as s**t! No question Jim Crow and southern Democrats were hand in hand!

We even had a KKK member (Democrat Robert Byrd) who got elected and ended up in leadership.
______

Yes, but later Robert Byrd repented his racist politics and said so, and so did George Wallace, and blacks voted for them and other Democrats, because meanwhile they had learned from Eleanor Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson that the Democrats were the party that had their interests most at heart -- so much so that they (the Democrats) were even willing to lose the South to vote for what was right.

It's called having principles.

C.H. Truth said...

Principles that they have forgotten... and the reason why they are losing Hispanics and Blacks in droves!

They were the racist Party and for all practical purposes they are back to being the racist Party. Their exploitation of everything race has caught up to them and people are realizing that the only real interest they have is using minorities to stay in power.

anonymous said...

In MHO, Scotty just like Trump thinks classified data is just data......sad our host is too ignorant to appreciate that the declaration of unclassified does not make the document cleared of sensitive information

Trump's former National Security Adviser John Bolton backed up Grisham's assertions to the AP, saying that the former president "didn't seem to appreciate just how sensitive [classified information] was, how dangerous it was for some of our people and the risks that they could be exposed to."


Like anything GOP....protect the white Fat assed old man any way you can!!!!

rrb said...


We even had a KKK member (Democrat Robert Byrd) who got elected and ended up in leadership.


Yep. And that very same Grand Kleagle Byrd - D, led the filibuster AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

We owe the "Great Society" to the fact that LBJ said that as a result he would "have those ni@@ers voting democratic for the next 200 years."

These are just two of the most egregious examples of why the left has been desperately re-writing these chapters of American History.

There has never been a more vile and reprehensible collection of racists in American History than the Democrat Party.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Mitch McConnell is contradicting Trump's claims of election fraud after a prominent poll ranks Americans' worries about the loss of democracy above their worry about the cost of living.

The national NBC News poll also indicated that a majority of Americans support the various investigations into Trump's alleged wrongdoings.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Is the present Supreme Court going to reinstate the position that each state can determine whether or not blacks can vote? Hispanics? Asians? Women? Irish?

Myballsinthewoodsagain said...

We're now learning that our fascist dementia president lied when he said the Whitehouse had no involvement in the Trump documents investigation and raid. We've learned that in fact, it began st the Whitehouse with their Whitehouse counsel sending a letter unilaterally removing Trump executives privilege so the doj could then start going after Trump yet again.

This is absolutely outrageous. And yet, the big tv networks won't report it.

Myballsinthewoodsagain said...

The mayor's of DC and NYC are embarrassing themselves. Especially Adam's in NY. NYC has 8M people, receives over 100k new immigrants every year. Has millions of immigrants living there. But now he's gonna claim he's overwhelmed by a few thousand stepping off busses?

I thought he was proud of his city being a sanctuary city. Huh.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

When Donald Trump appears in front of a rally crowd, things get exciting.

When he appears, as is liikely, in front of a Grand Jury, things will also get exciting, but in a different way.