The rest of the Face the Nation pundits seemed to be suggesting that Donald Trump will need to solve a complex calculus equation to get to 270. They believe Clinton seems to have several key swing states in the bag, and are apparently assuming that all early voters are Democrats, because they feel early voting in Florida and Ohio are showing Hillary is likely winning both.
On Fox News Sunday, Karl Rove provided some early voting numbers. According to the numbers he is citing, Republicans are doing better almost across the board, including Nevada (where he said that the GOP has cut into the 2012 results by about 2000). He suggested this morning that Republicans are up about 100,000 in Florida as compared to 2012. Rove believes that Trump should get to 240 at this point, but needs Florida to get to 269.
Rove also discussed the difference for the Democrats losing the Black voter (where they are over ninety percent likely to vote Democrat) and trying to replace them with a Hispanic voter (who vote about seventy percent for Democrats). They lose approximately 0.9 votes for every Black that doesn't vote, while only gaining about 0.4 votes for every Hispanic that does. In other words, they need about two new Hispanic voters to replace one lost Black voter.
Juan Williams discussed National polls, which he suggests Clinton is leading by around three or four points. Of course, it's hard to imagine someone winning by three or four points nationally and still losing the ECV. Not exactly hard core analysis. But it is what it is.
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Personally I am still seeing the same media spinning the same stories in the same way. As for the early voting, it appears that Clinton is likely doing "better" than Trump (which is all that is being reported by many) but is falling far short of the advantages banked by Obama in 2012 (a story only being talked about by a few). In fact, it would appear in certain key states (such as Florida and North Carolina, Democratic vote is running dangerously behind). But the only state you hear about is Nevada (where Democrats have built a substantial lead similar to what you saw in 2012). The caveat there for Clinton is that polling "includes" those who are voting early. So in spite of early voting, the polling still suggests a close race in Nevada. People have to remember that an early vote is just a vote. This becomes someone who cannot vote on election day.
It's also fair to point out that both candidates are in Michigan and/or Pennsylvania over the next two days. By most accounts, this suggests that these stated are in play (which would be a bad sign for Clinton). Meanwhile the Democratic talking points is that Hillary was always going to campaign in these states (given they have no early voting). At first blush, this makes sense, but I seriously doubt they would otherwise be in these states if they were running six to eight points ahead.
Lastly, I have been seeing television ads here in Minnesota over the past few days from both candidates. This could be a sign that they just have so much money, that they need to find a place to spend it. But there is quite a buzz going on that Minnesota is not quite as far gone for Trump as one might suspect. One poll had this State a tied, so who knows.
May we live in interesting times....
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They say actions speak louder than words. And the actions indicate that Trump is on offence and that Clinton is on defense.
Yep interesting times for the R party and its alienation of sooooo many blocs of voters. So much for the big tent.....all you guys have is big mouths and hatred
Motivated to oppose Trump, Hispanics are poised for historic turnout
Activist groups and Clinton allies, driven largely by a deepening fear of the Republican nominee are deploying new outreach strategies and hoping to take advantage of growth in the Latino electorate. The number of people in the bloc eligible to cast ballots has jumped by 4 million since four years ago, when 11.2 million Hispanics voted.
By Robert Samuels
Record hispanic turnout in early floriduh voting.....I wonder who they will support?????
Not who you think. In Florida, Cuban Americans make up a good deal of that "Hispanic" turnout.
Democrats are touting "Hispanic" turnout in early voting for that last two days. However, they are strangely silent on black, Asian, and women turnout.
Clinton is campaigning in Michigan and Pennsylvania today, two states that don't have a significant "Hispanic" population.
They are worried.
POLITICO SAYS:
Latino Surge Rattles Trump Campaign
“Hispanic voters could be poised to deliver a historic rebuke to Donald Trump and the Republican Party,” Politico reports.
“Early-vote statistics from battleground states with large Hispanic populations show record turnout among a bloc that has voted at a lower rate than whites or blacks in past elections. If, as some polls suggest, Hispanic voters are supporting Hillary Clinton by blowout margins, these numbers could sink Trump in a handful of states that are essential to his path to 270 electoral votes.”
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A REPUBLICAN SAYS:
“The story of this election may be the mobilization of the Hispanic vote. So Trump deserves the award for Hispanic turnout. He did more to get them out than any Democrat has ever done.”
— Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), quoted by the New York Times.
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Thanks, Donald.
With the exception of the other serial adulterer, seem to be thinking outside the polls and are going with their feelings based on years of experience. Rove has said before that Trump is in trouble. He's looking at the exit polls, and the demographic profiles of the voters. Like him or not, he's a sharp guy.
CH, are you going to the Trump event? He is laboring under a delusion that your state is going for Trump. Hell, they were the only ones who supported McGovern.
Stevie Wonder is performing right now, on CNN, at a Clinton rally in Kissimmee, Florida. A few thousand more African Americans persuaded to vote may swing the closely divided Florida.
Trump is wasting precious time i Minnesota.
Disregarding my sixteen year old "Kerry in a landslide", I have a pretty solid history on CHT.
Clinton will win between about 312 and 332 (approximately) in the ECV. We should know by 9:00 PM PST.
Clinton is campaigning in Michigan and Pennsylvania today, two states that don't have a significant "Hispanic" population.
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May that be simply because they see they have the Latino vote all tied up?
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James, in Michigan she can get a lot of the non college educated white, union workers. In the past the Republicans got a lot of Republican votes from them, not now. Mainly, because they remind the auto workers that Obama saved GM against Republican opposition and hundreds of thousands of jobs.
She is also making a big time and expensive push for the African American vote in Detroit. The economy in Detroit has improved under Obama and since she's running with his support, she's there to close the deal.
Also, if Trump does better in a state like Colorado, if the upper mid west stays blue, he can't win Smart move on her part while Trump is wasting his time in CH's back yard.
Roger - buddy of mine had tickets and wanted me to come... but I had other things going on. So he went, but didn't get in. He said hundreds of cars were turned away.
And it wasn't "McGovern" where Minnesota bucked the trend it was Mondale.
No I don't believe that Trump will win Minnesota, but it seems odd that we are suddenly seeing ads and getting visits. There really hasn't been much polling here. I suspect that the campaign's internal polling must show something.
Lastly Roger...
Rove isn't picking Trump to win, but he sees a legitimate chance. He says that with the under performance of the early voting of blacks in both Florida and North Carolina that there is more than a good chance Trump wins both. If he wins New Hampshire, then he is in the 260's.
I have no idea how you can live with such a crazy way of thinking. You seem to have no ability to see any "perspective". It's like anyone who doesn't accept your position 100% - you have to toss out crazy red herring crap that makes no sense. You must confuse even yourself. I couldn't live in such a state of absolute mental chaos all the time.
"non college educated white, union workers"
You.
FBI director tells Congress review of additional Clinton emails does not change conclusion she should not face charges!
FBI Director James Comey on Sunday afternoon sent a new letter to Congress notifying members that after reviewing a new batch of emails to and from Hillary Clinton, the bureau has not "not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton."
The letter said that the review of all the email, there is no change in the July statement to Congress in July.
It's over. BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
LOL, of course not.
As we predicted they would. There was no serious investigation.
The F.B.I. informed Congress on Sunday that it has not changed its conclusions about Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state, removing a dark cloud that has been hanging over her campaign two days before Election Day.
James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, said in a letter to members of Congress that “based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton.”
The news that the bureau was looking at emails that it found on the computer of a top aide to Mrs. Clinton, Huma Abedin, rocked the presidential race last month and provided a new opening for Donald J. Trump.
Brian Fallon, a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, said in a post on Twitter that the campaign was always confident that she would be cleared of any wrongdoing.
FBI Finds No New Information on Clinton
FBI Director James Comey announced that the FBI has not changed its July conclusion regarding Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while Secretary of State.
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No new information can mean no new information.
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that's a picture of the letter.
The letter from Comey does not say "no new information". He just says "we have not changed our conclusion". http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-3b6e-dd09-a9da-3bff05640000
Sorry but this does not pass the sniff test.
Still want Comey fired Roger.
LOL
Trump.
Oct 25th: "This election is rigged!"
Oct 29th: "Maybe the election isn't rigged after all!"
Nov 6th: "Nope, it's definitely rigged!"
This does not change my mind. Comey made a major mistake, but he's trying to bail himself out. Ge put the FBI into the election. Big time mistake.
Yep he injected himself with that ridiculous speech, then again with his letter to Congress, and yet a third time with this blatant Sgt Shultz act. Comey must be looking for a soft landing somewhere, hoping he can just get fired and nothing worse happens.
I have no sympathy for him. He should have had the guts the first time, to stand up against political pressure.
Hillary Clinton put the FBI into election. Nobody else but her is to blame.
Comey's mistake was not recommending indictment when the facts, law and precedent demand that a grand jury be convened and indictments handed down.
Comey did more harm to America by proving "rules are for the little people".
That there is unequal justice and if you are wealthy and well-connected, you can elude justice altogether.
if you are wealthy and well-connected, you can elude justice altogether.
And grab a pu##y and get away with it.
Once and this is done and Comey leaves office, it will be interesting if he writes a book about his experiences and what lead him to do what he did.
I find it highly significant that of the eleven accusations against Trump not one person has filed a criminal or civil complaint.
In other words, these women never put themselves under oath or put themselves in a position of being sworn under penalty of perjury.
All they have done was tell a story to a reporter who was only too ready to believe it.
Just like "Jackie".
Hillary Clinton however has a battery of physical forensic evidence as well as sworn testimony against her.
Roger's drama queen statement notwithstanding.
I have no idea how you can live with such a crazy way of thinking.
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it's not like he has a choice. what we're witnessing is someone in the grip of a serious mental illness. mental illness that probably precluded his alcoholism.
psychologically he's fucked.
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