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Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Missed the Mark - June runoff

So close, so close and yet so far!
  • Approximately 51% Republican and 49% Democrat! 
  • Almost identical to the margin of the Trump victory. 
  • Can the left continue to muster the same enthusiasm? 

65 comments:

Loretta Russo said...

Victory for the ages!

caliphate4vr said...

Exactly the way I said it would go

Commonsense said...

He will squeeze through and get 51% in the popular vote.

Clinton will win a 309 electoral vote landslide.

Kerry in a landslide!!!


I stop worrying when Roger made his prediction. The hits just keep coming.

Commonsense said...

I do have another prediction. Like the Kansas special election, this story will die by Friday.

opie said...

Once again, US voters decide that we only need 42% turnout to represent our interests. Doesn't get much better than that does it that 38% can sit on the sidelines and then complain. BTW, I heard it called a record turnout. Record of what, incompetence?????? Until we get more people voting, the discord in congress will never end. Sad day for America that so few allow the insanity to continue. Oh well.

Myballs said...

This seat will stay gop. Dems poured so much money into this that only two house members have received more funding, paul ryan and a self funded dem. Dems knew that the primary was their best chance. Close but no cigar.

C.H. Truth said...

Don't let the pundits fool you... this was a purple district that had a high quality long term GOP incumbent that made it appear more red than purple.

If the Democrats pour 8.3 million into a race against a fractured GOP field in a district that Clinton only lost by 1% - and end up losing overall by 2% (GOP over Dem)...

How does that "really" bode well for them in the midterms?

wphamilton said...

It doesn't bode anything yet for the midterms, good or ill. But if Osseff wins in June, running mainly on anti-Trump slogans, you may start feeling some concern. In the meantime, should Trump keep screwing up, or even muddling through without accomplishing anything, then you may see a fractured GOP field not just in Price's district but everywhere else.

Commonsense said...

Osseff shot his load. The GOP will rally around Handel now.

Loretta Russo said...

Roger and James should be here any minute, to spam the blog...

Jason Chaffetz won't seek reelection.

Commonsense said...

I also wouldn't discount the Trump factor.

Ossoff did far better in early voting than on election night and one of the factors was Trump's last minute tweets and robocalls.

Democrats tried to make about Trump and obliged and the Democrats lost.

KD, said...

without accomplishing anything" WP you are one thing, a lock step liberal.

Victory for the ages!" H/T Ette

That is the kind of boys being raised in the Participation Trophy Generation.


Jason Chaffetz won't seek reelection. " Ette


I hear Dianne Feinstein might not run, she got roundly boed at a town hall, no, not by Pro-Trump, we don't do that, she got booed by her own kind for not being Liberal Enough.

Wait, WP has been dry humping the line here that President Trump has done nada, yet, she got booed because Trump has done too much.


Confused liberals are funny little weak mind sheep.



rrb said...

How does that "really" bode well for them in the midterms?
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well isn't it obvious?

LANDSLIDE!!!11!

KD, Money did not buy Election said...

Hillary spent 1.2 Billion and lost

Moocher Assoff spent 8.3 million and achieved "Victory for the ages!"

KS special Election, well, Dizzykos, Code Red-Pink , the DNC pour cash in to Kansas, thanks by the way, and lost.


Yet ,the left are always talking about getting the money out of Politics and they hate Citizens United.

wphamilton said...

Ossoff did far better in early voting than on election night and one of the factors was Trump's last minute tweets and robocalls.

I was attributing it to people voting after work, who tend to be more Republican than those voting during working hours. Particularly in the northern suburbs.

The 51% Republican vote tends to favor Handel, but the margin of Osseff's victory shouldn't be discounted either. There is no guarantee that Republicans who didn't vote for Handel yesterday will vote for her in June, while Osseff is already at 48%. I think that Osseff should be slightly favored, especially given that it's likely that Trump will continue his bumbling and will probably freshly offend some local demographics by then.

James said...

Trump Still Closely Following Obama Foreign Policy

First Read: “The Trump administration certified that Iran is complying with the nuclear deal… though Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the administration is weighing whether to break the deal. The Trump administration ADMITTING THAT IRAN IS COMPLYING WITH THE NUCLEAR DEAL — despite so much GOP rhetoric to the contrary — is another reminder that, besides its rhetoric and firing off some cruise missiles in Syria, the Team Trump is still pretty much FOLLOWING THE OBAMA PLAYBOOK, at least when it comes to actions.”
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Oh, Barack's going to go down in history as a very great president.

KD said...

caliphate4vr said...
Exactly the way I said it would go"


Yep, you called the ObamaCare crap sandwitch long before it passed and is now imploding.

I see it needs a cash infusion of 8 to 9 Billion dollars in a month or it goes down under its' own weight.

Commonsense said...

I was attributing it to people voting after work, who tend to be more Republican than those voting during working hours

The "early voting" I'm talking about happened before election day.

rrb said...



Insufferable liberal asshat introduces bill to amend presidential removal procedures

A House Democrat has introduced legislation to enhance the Constitution’s presidential removal procedures in response to concerns about President Trump’s behavior.

Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) filed the bill during the House's two-week April recess to empower former presidents and vice presidents of both parties, in coordination with the sitting vice president, to determine if a president is fit for office.

“It is hard to imagine a better group to work with the vice president to examine whether the president is able to discharge the duties of the office. When there are questions about the president’s ability to fulfill his or her constitutional responsibilities, it is in the country’s best interest to have a mechanism in place that works effectively,” Blumenauer said in a statement.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/329206-house-democrat-introduces-bill-to-amend-presidential-removal-procedures



i find it ironic that those who are calling for new ways to remove trump are the looniest the left has to offer.



Commonsense said...

Anonymous James said...
Trump Still Closely Following Obama Foreign Policy


You mean except for the part about actually having a foreign policy.

Leading from behind is now passe.

Commonsense said...

Insufferable liberal asshat introduces bill to amend presidential removal procedures

It use to be that any representative who was elected to Congress had a passing acquaintance with the US Constitution.

KD said...

Yes, that part.... "The policy of Strategic Patience is over"


Jane , we know from you post that you are simple minded and unable to learn. but just damn son, try not to suck.


I noticed that the Obama directed media responses have that school boy bs tone " ME TOO".

He did nothing good during the Lost Years and it is better for the world he is gone.

KD said...

He will squeeze through and get 51% in the popular vote.

Clinton will win a 309 electoral vote landslide.

Kerry in a landslide!!!" CS

Don't forget his prediction on Nov 9th after it was clear trump won.

He posted the US Stock markets are in free fall and will never recover, Roger Krugman.

James said...

Trump was against the Iran Nuclear deal before he was for it.

He was against almost everything before he was for it.

KD, CA is Not at All Green, living the Lie said...


California again leads list with 6 of the top 10 most polluted U.S. cities

Doyle Rice , USA TODAY Published 12:09 a.m. ET April 19, 2017 "


LOL, fucking mopes in LaLaLand, dirty animals.

caliphate4vr said...

This district as currentlu configured went 61% Romney, "the wave" isn't starting here

rrb said...

Anonymous James said...
Trump was against the Iran Nuclear deal before he was for it.
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he remains against it, child molester. the fact is he's stuck with it.


"In other words, because Iran continues to support terrorism (and always will under the current regime, natch) Trump may decide to reinstate sanctions notwithstanding Iran’s compliance with its nuclear obligations. That would place the United States, not Iran, in violation of the nuclear agreement, and the European parties to the agreement will point to that when they inevitably decline to reinstate sanctions on Iran themselves. (Why punish Shiite terrorists for America’s breach of contract?)

Thank Obama for putting the U.S. in a predicament where we’re the bad actor if we decide to cut off money to a terror state that’s engaged in sectarian cleansing in Syria and remains on track to become a nuclear power — legally — by the end of the next decade."


http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/19/state-department-yes-iran-complying-terms-nuclear-deal/


C.H. Truth said...

Ossoff ran against the Governor more than he ran against Trump.

I think the key here is that Ossoff literally garnered a record haul of $8.3 million, and barely got more than Clinton did in this district.

W.P. may be right that there is a chance that some of the voters that went for other Republicans may be less inclined to come out. But the same could be said about the four other Democrats in the race. I think the 48% might create a situation where the GOP decides to take this race seriously from here on out... rather than jump in at the very end like they did.

But W.P. is still running on his "own" assumptions that Republicans see Trump as "Screwing up" when we just discussed the poll that shows that only around 7% of Republicans and only 4% of conservative Republicans think he is doing worse than expected. This is clearly a blind spot for many people, who (like during the election) cannot imagine why anyone would support Trump. Problem is that they did, and they still do.

opie said...

poll that shows that only around 7% of Republicans and only 4% of conservative Republicans think he is doing worse than expected.

Funny CH, how polls that mirror your opinion or punditry are now being used by you and those that show anything negative are ignored. Keep up the hypocritical behavior, it is what R's do best. BTW, now you equate $'s with votes but ignore the fact that 38% didn't show up to vote...Just saying that those people are the root cause of the discord in this country. Like trump winning the election with 3 million less votes should be the message which needs to be addressed.

opie said...

There is no guarantee that Republicans who didn't vote for Handel yesterday will vote for her in June, while Osseff is already at 48%

Seems that those R's are members of the tea party/trump backers that just may stay home with a conservative running for the seat....I guess we can all argue through june and again wait for the answer I expect to a given for the R.......

Loretta Russo said...

Pedo

Roger Amick said...

Off subject but shows how our incompetent President sees the globe.

The Indian Ocean is a long way to the Korean peninsula.

Someone should buy him globe!

caliphate4vr said...

one with 57 states on it?

Commonsense said...

There is no guarantee that Republicans who didn't vote for Handel yesterday will vote for her in June, while Osseff is already at 48%

Fairly sure Republicans will vote for her over Osseff any day of the week. Plus a whole bunch of GOP voters will show up for the run off who didn't show up yesterday.

Meanwhile Osseff has already reached the high water mark of his Democrat support.

It's hard to see where he could (legally) find any addition votes among his base.

Loretta Russo said...

"The Indian Ocean is a long way to the Korean peninsula.

Someone should buy him globe!"

I assure you, the military doesn't need a globe.

None of us will know military strategies. Those days are gone, along with the two-bit micromanaging community organizer.

Indy Voter said...

O'Reilly is gone from Fox.

wphamilton said...

when we just discussed the poll that shows that only around 7% of Republicans and only 4% of conservative Republicans think he is doing worse than expected.

Is it possible to set a lower bar for expectations? Talking and bluster, even lobbing a few symbolic missiles, will only take you so far even with sympathetic Republicans. At some point Trump will need tangible successes, or else even his "burn it all down" constituency will lose patience.

wphamilton said...

Fairly sure Republicans will vote for her over Osseff any day of the week.

You can't count on them even showing up. Sometimes people who strongly support a candidate who loses in the first round (or primary) don't bother to vote for the winning candidate. That will barely affect Osseff but the impact on Handley is unkown.

In the cases where a candidate wins a big plurality but not over 50%, and the other party had more total votes (like in this case) the ultimate outcome has gone either way, roughly equally. In truth you can't reasonably predict it based only on the first round votes. I think that the difference, whichever way it goes, will come down to the public perception of Trump in June.

Myballs said...

Not just the perception of Trump. If the media continue their trump bashing, liberal agenda, which was a factor in Trump's election, gop voters could well turn out against ossoff being blatently pushed by the media.

KD said...

The Dramacats , were ready, just like on Nov. 8th, 2016, all polling showed the Hillary would win, then came the impossible, she lost.

The Dramacats, were ready, Kansas Special Election, this was it, the time to turn the tables on President Trump, the came the loss.

The Dramacats, were Ready, Yep, GA 6, 8.3 million dollars , a sure thing (Mr 51 % wrongly predicted), This was it, time to turn the tables on President Trump, then it happened, a run off with OFFSself as the Democrat Standard Bearer, only one problem, his is dumb as a rock.

KD, said...

Offsself announced that he IS GOING to move into the district , being outed on CNN in which the infoBABE openly mocked and laughed at him has prompted this move.

Commonsense said...

Guess his girlfriend doesn't need all that much support.

It's too late. He's already been tagged as a carpetbagger. This will just make it worse.

Commonsense said...

You can't count on them even showing up.

Yeah I can. If they were motivated enough to show up for a jungle primary where the prize was only a spot in the real election then I'm pretty sure they will show up for the real election.

KD, said...

Yeah, his story of being a whole 1.5 miles away and a ten minute drive to the District was pure Dramacrat bs.

I am sure he thought he would mail in that interview with CNN after all he was in friendly land and yet, it exposed this poser.

KD said...

Beige Book
Released On 4/19/2017 2:00:00 PM For Mar, 2017

Highlights
A tight labor market is once again the call from the Beige Book which in January and February first began to highlight signs of labor shortages. Businesses in most of the Federal Reserve's 12 districts reported difficulty finding not only highly skilled employees but low skilled ones as well."

Well, let see, where is a pool of unskilled Americans that we can tap and put to work, yes, I know the fucking unemployment rolls in every freaking state.

opie said...

and a ten minute drive to the District was pure Dramacrat bs.

Really, KD? You know where emory is in relationship to the district????? I'm sure you also know that he wasn't a resident there growing up. LOL...Maybe he's also BS'ing about his GF being in med school is also BS. Kinda like you and everything you post pure BS. You really are a joke and have nothing.

rrb said...

Roger Amick said...
Off subject but shows how our incompetent President sees the globe.

The Indian Ocean is a long way to the Korean peninsula.

Someone should buy him globe!
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the days of us telegraphing our military operations TO THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET are over alky.

the adults are in charge now.

KD, That was an easy trap set and sprung on dopium said...

"I am a mile and a half down the street to support Alicia while she finishes medical school," he added, referring to his girlfriend. "It's something I've been very transparent about. I am proud to be supporting her career. As soon as she finishes her medical training, I will be 10 minutes back up the road where I grew up." Dramacat OffsSeff talking to CNN











Indy Voter said...

Eh. They should at least telegraph them to the ships involved.

James said...

Bill O'Reilly out at FOX News amid sexual harassment allegations
April 19th 2017

Bill O'Reilly's time at FOX News has officially come to an end.

The network's parent company, 21st Century Fox, released a statement on Wednesday afternoon revealing that the "O'Reilly Factor" host has officially been let go after 21 years following multiple reports that he had sexually harassed women for years.

"After a thorough and careful review of the allegations, the Company and Bill O'Reilly have agreed that Bill O'Reilly will not be returning to the Fox News Channel," the statement reads.
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IOW, after a thorough and careful review of the allegations and the millions of dollars in payoffs, we concluded that Bill O'Reilly is as guilty as sin.



James said...

Eh. They should at least telegraph them to the ships involved.
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Guess the adults didn't think of that. ;-)

Loretta Russo said...

"the days of us telegraphing our military operations TO THE ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET are over alky."

It's not rocket science, but since he, the pedo and other leftists only read occupydemocrats....

Roger Amick said...

Ase to the man topic, I think it's foolish to predict this far out. I think this will be a referendum on the President. He has a core of about 40% or likely voters.. Most of those on the right here, would vote for someone Trump supports even if the person was a child molester. That would be "Fake News" and dismissed by using comments like "the 57" as sufficient to keep him in good stranding no matter what.

I doubt that most of you are seeing how many Republicans are struggling to find ways to support Mr Trump. His erratic behavior and tweets do bother the more thoughtful Republicans, and they see the town halls are doing. Whether or not that this enthusiasm will provide enough votes, will vary on the part of the country, but.. big. but, if the enthusiasm will bring about sufficient numbers, the June run off, may be a sign that the President will be hurting rather than helping the local candidates. If the Democrats can get even just 5% or less to change tribes, and vote for Ossoff, he may pull it off.

I know he is young, only 30, but I saw a lot of him over the last few days. At first, he seemed like a rookie. But he made a lot of appearances and went beyond the canned party line. I know you guys didn't lie his start of a wave comment, but he might just have it. But like I said, a bit early. But I saw a hint of "it" but that's me.

I saw him more than canned lines and he looked pretty good.but like I said, we see.

rrb said...

Anonymous Indy Voter said...
Eh. They should at least telegraph them to the ships involved.
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well, those who are extremely petty will be quick to make more if this than it is. i'm just happy that our C in C isn't providing our enemies with our every military move via the ny times.

Commonsense said...

I think the ships know where they are and where they are going.

Liberals have gone round the bend on this.

The TDS is strong out there.

caliphate4vr said...

I saw him more than canned lines and he looked pretty good.but like I said, we see.

Platitudes and bullshit are all that spew from his mouth. I'm not saying Handel is better. But he's a lying liberal donk that will lose

KD said...

Support for Donald Trump, President of parts of the USA and only a hand full of people that voted for him is growing . Where, well, Business and Unions. See the thing is the lost years were anti-workers, anti-growth and anti-independence.

That changed when Hillary Clinton lost .


Dramacrats, what when wrong in both of the Special Elections held so far?

Commonsense said...

Platitudes and bullshit are all that spew from his mouth.

Robo-Democrat.

KD, Pres Trump Taking Better Care of Vets said...

Note: Liberals are again back to attacking the Men and Woman of the US Military.


President Trump is providing actual better Medical Care to the Vets by signing a new law for them.


Loretta Russo said...

"well, those who are extremely petty will be quick to make more if this than it is."

"Petty" is being too kind....

rrb said...



The fact that the most popular politician, particularly among Democrats, is Bernie Sanders, who’ll be 78 in 2020, gives you an idea of the extent of the devastation Obama has left behind in the Democratic party.

In his eight years he did okay in ‘08 and ’12, but they have lost, as you enumerated before, the House, the Senate, the presidency, two-thirds of the governorships, two-thirds of the statehouses. He has torched their entire minor-league system. AAA, AA, single-A — there’s nothing left, and that’s why the leadership is in their 70s.

It’s the old progressive, Bernie Sanders, vacationing-in-the-Soviet-Union hard Left, which energizes a lot of students. I don’t think it’s going to carry the party anywhere. Ask yourself, what do they stand for? Higher minimum wage? Fine, but that’s not a program. I think what they have lost is kind of an ideological center. Remember, the real problem in the Clinton campaign was: What was her message? What does she believe? She had to farm it out to 20 people, and nobody had an answer. I don’t know what the party stands for other than it’s right now anti-Trump and it will thrive on that, but beyond that, there’s nothing on the positive side other than the hard Left, and that’s got no appeal beyond these university towns and some cities.

- the hammer

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/446899/bernie-sanders-progressives-leading-democrats-after-obama-hillary



but it's trump and the GOP who are in trouble as the left pins their future on a worn out old commie and some newbie jag-off in an obscure GA district.

uh huh.

KD said...

The fact that the most popular politician, particularly among Democrats, is Bernie Sanders"

He is everywhere and telling everyone what the Dramacrats want, none of it is for the good of the USA.

He is pushing single payer, he missed 2016 election.

KD said...

Very soon ObamaCare will need 9 Billion dollars in cash to be paid out to the remaining Health Insurance Companies. Unlike SS and Medicare Obama failed to get off his lazy ass and pass a payroll tax.

So with no true funding source it needs new money, where will the Dramacrats get this money?

caliphate4vr said...

In his eight years he did okay in ‘08 and ’12, but they have lost, as you enumerated before, the House, the Senate, the presidency, two-thirds of the governorships, two-thirds of the statehouses. He has torched their entire minor-league system. AAA, AA, single-A — there’s nothing left, and that’s why the leadership is in their 70s.

Yet, liverboy has assured us for over a decade we are the party in waning wandering the desert for 40 years, a small regional party. i could go on for hours and yet he never gets it. Ossoff was going to win outright Tuesday....

I said it years ago, if he knew half of what he thought he knew, he'd still be a dumbass

KD, Leaving the Lost Years in the rear view mirror said...

Cali, when you predict something , it comes true, look at the implosion of ObamaCare , you were ahead of this even before it was passed by only Dramacrats.

Now it needs 9 Billion dollars, so now where are the Dems to save it?


As for Roger Krugman's prediction of a collapse in the US Stock Markets and in the US Economy, well, again, he is far off the mark.

"Index of leading economic indicators which came in at a March gain of 0.4 percent to beat Econoday's high forecast. Gains were broad-based in the month led by the ISM new orders index and including, as always, the interest rate spread where short-term rates are unusually low. The LEI has been very solid and continues to point ahead to rising economic strength. " Econoday website

Yep, note during the Lost Years reports came in with the heading "unexpectedly" as a way to excuse the latest failure of Obamanomics.

Note now we get "Beat" what was expected .