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Monday, May 8, 2017

Here is a question

So one of the arguments I heard over the weekend from the fearmongers on the left is how the horrible AHCA will screw over the vulnerable older generation, by increasing the differential that an older person can be charged for a health care plan.

Quite obviously older people use more healthcare than younger people, and yes part of the concept of insurance is that those who don't use it, sort of subsidize those who do use it. But to a larger degree the concept of insurance is also to some degree a forced savings account... where you send money to the insurance company, and then they pay out when you need it.

Common sense should tell us that insurance companies cannot exist if the payments that they make on their customers behalf  is more than the amounts of the premiums that they bring in. Basic business logic requires these companies to demand enough revenue to cover expenses.


The ACA required that insurance companies can only charge an older person three times that of a younger person, in spite of the fact that they will use much more than three times the amount of health care. The new AHCA would increase that rate from three times to five times. This is being hailed by the left as an injustice of epic proportions to our too-often-cheated older worker.

The Truth is that older workers simply make considerably more money and have accumulated considerably more wealth than younger workers. You don't see 50 year old people taking your drive through order, stocking shelves at the grocery store, or making your latte at the coffee shop. You see young people, many who are struggling to get by.

The unemployment rate of someone 55 and older is 3.2%. The unemployment rate for someone between 45-55 is 3.4%. The unemployment rate for someone 16-19 is 14.7% and the unemployment rate for someone 20-24 is 7.3%

Older workers are not only more able, but in most cases will be more willing to pay for Health Insurance. Almost nobody over the age of 45 will choose to go without insurance. But if you raise the rates on those younger healthier people who insurance companies "need" to actually function... they will many times choose to go without. Even if it means paying a penalty.

So why is it that liberals would try to convince us that we need to have artificial controls to make sure that the low paid younger worker pay more to subsidize the higher paid older worker? Why do we encourage a system where younger healthier workers are going to be much less likely to purchase insurance and ultimately bring up rates for everyone else that is left?

Simple... because older workers vote at a higher rate than younger voters, and the if the Democrats are going to scare someone, it might as well be someone who is likely to vote.

Rest assured... it's not because it's good policy and certainly not because it is fair.

86 comments:

caliphate4vr said...

44 states had 5 to 1 rate bands prior to awful law. GA was 8 to 1

opie said...

So one of the arguments I heard over the weekend from the fearmongers on the left is how the horrible AHCA will screw over the vulnerable older generation,


CH....you go ahead and post whatever tickles your bias. If you don't think you are going to take the gas pipe, good for you. The CBO is going to grade this POS and the disaster will be there for all to see. The multiplier is aimed directly at you. If you don't think that will cause your rates to go up, I know of a bridge for sale. The funny part, in spite of pauline saying the ACA would be a job killer, that never happened. Trump care otoh, is a job killer taking all that money out of medicaid, will result in many people in the industry losing their jobs. The tax breaks for the elite R's will only trickle down their own legs. Sad IMHO, you can't see straight anymore.

C.H. Truth said...

Sorry Opie... but I use a High Deductable plan with a health savings account through employer coverage.

The reason I (and so many others in my company) switched is because the rates rose so much over the past few years on the gold plan I used to have...

Obamacare did not lower my rates when it was implemented. If anything, it made them higher.

caliphate4vr said...

Wrong as always, fatty

Obamacare killing jobs in New York area, executives tell Federal Reserve survey

rrb said...

The CBO is going to grade this POS and the disaster will be there for all to see.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

the CBO can score it any way they want, pie hole.



CH - "Obamacare did not lower my rates when it was implemented. If anything, it made them higher."

bingo.

the scoring that will rule the day will be the scoring that takes place at millions of kitchen tables across america. if the AHCA can bring premiums and deductibles back down out of the stratosphere to more affordable levels it'll be good legislation for america and a victory fro the GOP.

d0pie's just pissed because his halitosis will no longer be covered as a pre-existing condition.



james said...

Just 31% Support the GOP Health Care Bill

A new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds that 31% of Americans favor the American Health Care Act, which narrowly passed the Republican-controlled House last week, while 44% oppose the bill and 25% are unsure.
Interestingly, Trump voters have now coalesced around the bill in a way they failed to do earlier this spring with 75% now supportive of the proposed legislation.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

KD, Opie is 66 , Happy birthday said...

How ObamaCare was/is designed to weaken Health Insurance Companies and less their value to share holders.

"Common sense should tell us that insurance companies cannot exist if the payments that they make on their customers behalf is more than the amounts of the premiums that they bring in. Basic business logic requires these companies to demand enough revenue to cover expenses." CHT

To your point, ObamaCare has a death spiral built in to kill Insurance Companies.

It is the 80/20 requirement.


AM I , the only one that notices how little the Three Liberal Stooges know about ObimboCare?

james said...

Trump Cools on McMaster

Eli Lake: “For the Washington establishment, President Donald Trump’s decision to make General H.R. McMaster his national security adviser in February was a masterstroke. Here is a well-respected defense intellectual, praised by both parties, lending a steady hand to a chaotic White House. The grown-ups are back.”
“But inside the White House, the McMaster pick has not gone over well with the one man who matters most. White House officials tell me Trump himself has clashed with McMaster in front of his staff.

“McMaster’s allies and adversaries inside the White House tell me that Trump is disillusioned with him. This professional military officer has failed to read the president  — by not giving him a chance to ask questions during briefings, at times even lecturing Trump.”

OH NO! LECTUTURING THE ALL KNOWING ONE.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

KD said...

We can always be sure of ONE thing, collectively the Three Liberal Stooges have the attention span of a goldfish.


Really, can you all stay ON TOPIC.


New rate increase is states with Obamacare, 50 % .... when does the Affordable part kick in?

Loretta Russo said...

"AM I , the only one that notices how little the Three Liberal Stooges know about ObimboCare?"

Am I the only one who notices that Roger and James can't answer a question without using someone else's opinion??

Why is it okay for a pedophile (James) to be here?

KD said...


Am I the only one who notices that Roger and James can't answer a question without using someone else's opinion??" Ette


No we have noticed that for years, Opium may be the brightest dim bulb in that bunch.

Why is it okay for a pedophile (James) to be here?" Ette

I don't know why that chomo is allowed, other then CHT has a big heart , look how he went out of this way for Roger Medicaid Alky.

Loretta Russo said...

At least Opie gives his own opinion.

Commonsense said...

A new HuffPost/YouGov survey finds that 31% of Americans [Liberals] favor the American Health Care Act

If 31% of liberals support the GOP plan there must be something wrong!! ☺

Loretta Russo said...

This is how stupid liberals are....

Calling for an independent investigation.

Isn't that what the FBI is? Independent investigators.

Clapper just agreed with me.

Russia succeeded, achieved their goals beyond their expectations by achieving discord.

Way to go useful liberal tools.

Putin played you like a fiddle.

KD said...

Yep, Putin won over Hillary/Liberals.

Just Damn.

Oh , There is this guy named Warren Buffet, and the fake news that he wants the "Buffet Tax", Obama floated it, and then dropped it. It played well with the liberals, well, guess what.

Warren Buffet just told his share holders that he is backing the Trump Tax Plan. He is backing it because it is good, read money his share holders pockets/purses.

opie said...

The reason I (and so many others in my company) switched is because the rates rose so much over the past few years on the gold plan I used to have...

And you posit because your rates have risen so much, they won't go up any more under trump care????? BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!

You are delusional. And your health saving is just more money it costs you to insure yourself. Nice try, CH, your gonna be screwed, Good.

opie said...

Anonymous califat head 4vr said...
Wrong as always, fatty

Obamacare killing jobs in New York area, executives tell Federal Reserve survey.

it's a survey that 20% said they may not be hiring. What about the other 80% that are creating jobs. You really are a dumb fuck if you think that proved anything. Having a 4.4% unemployment rate is basically full employment numb nutz. Job growth for 88 straight months is another example that the ACA did nothing but create jobs and you were wrong, again. Keep digging, this is fun playing with your stupidity. IDIOT

opie said...

rrb said...

the CBO can score it any way they want, pie hole.

And the fake press will report the the WH saying the numbers suck and can't be trusted. Who to believe, an asshole like you or trump????? Too bad your side screamed bloody murder when the d's did'nt grade a bill. Now they hate the CBO. Sad how stupid you and your old white men are. Idiots

KD, No wonder Trump Congratulated Marcon said...

Now that Macron won Yugly, what does he have planned for the France Economy.

Well, here is a short list:

1, Cut taxes by 33.9 EU Dollars
2, Lower Corporation tax rate from the current 33 % to 25 %

His platform on his web page said he will "herald a more pro-business approach".

He plans on scrapping the regulation on hours work to be considered full time, it is now 35 hours a week and to put a cherry on top, his plan is to make the firing of workers easier and release the Employeer from the life time payouts when firing a employee.

KD said...

your old white men are" Opie

You are an old white man and your rates on your Health Insurance are about to SOAR, IF we believe what you write on this the Adult Blog.

Roger Amick said...

Your hero is clueless.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Of course the Australians have better healthcare than we do --everybody does. ObamaCare is dead! But our healthcare will soon be great.
12:13 PM - 5 May 2017

Australia has a fairly common system cobbled together over the years, with taxes paying for basic universal health care and private insurance companies picking up the slack (sort of like Medigap insurance in the US for Medicare patients). It's not especially generous, but it's also about half the cost of American health care.

And Trump just said it's better than the health care we get. Ditto for Britain's fully socialized health care. Ditto for the Scandinavian countries. Ditto for France and Germany and Japan. Everyone with a government-funded universal health care system is better than us.

Normally, a statement like this would produce a huge blowback among conservatives. But not this time. It's more of the mental disability I posted earlier. Some here are unwilling to ever question this President. Australia, like every other democracy believes that everyone should have a right for medical care. If TrumpCare as passed by the house, would leave 27 million Americans without health insurance. The worst part of that law, can be, in an extremist ideologist of federalism. States can deny protection from existing condition price discrimination.


Roger Amick said...

I am well aware of the fact that our host said, Obamacare did not lower my rates when it was implemented. If anything, it made them higher.

Those costs are the results of not requiring people of all ages be insured. Properly constructed, a single pay system where the risk is spread throughout the entire population.

After the carpenter's union cased paying retirees. As the baby boomers like me. To get a 'gold' Kaiser Permanente plan was over $600 per month, and high co pays. The reason is that not people of all ages in the plan.

Roger Amick said...

Twitter is off line. Probably

Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing

Roger Amick said...

and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the Pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
And the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
And the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list

opie said...

KD the grammarian said...
your old white men are" Opie

You are an old white man and your rates on your Health Insurance are about to SOAR, IF we believe what you write on this the Adult Blog.

My rates are not going to change unless the govmt goes belly up. Idiot. Old goat fucking liars like you are the ones in trouble, especially since my insurance in retirement is picked up by my old employer, something you can only dream of since you never had a real job. Idiot.

Roger Amick said...

Something our host is ignoring this until he receives instructions on how to discount the testimony in a senatorial hearing as dramatic and important hearings since WaterGate.

James Clapper Jr. Said today, in regards to the Russian attacks on our electoral system."If there has ever been a clarion call for vigilance and actions agains the threa to the very foundation of our democratic [political system, this episode is eroding the American people recognized the severity of his threat and that we collectively couner it before it further erodes the fabric of our democracy. "

The President tweeted out four times calling the news coverage of the testimony today, is "Fake News".

No comments from our esteemed host.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the drunkard

rrb said...

The Democrats who attacked President Trump’s travel order in front of carefully-selected Democratic judges made the extraordinary claim that the President’s statements on the stump, as a candidate, were somehow relevant to whether the order was constitutional. This claim implies that an order may be unconstitutional if issued by one president, while the exact same order would be perfectly fine if issued by another. This is an absurd result.

It may be absurd, but it is what the Democrats believe. ACLU lawyer Omar Jadwat, arguing today before the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, told the court that President Trump’s travel order “could be constitutional” if it had been written by Hillary Clinton. Here is a portion of the audio from today’s hearing:

[...]


The last part of the audio is rather funny. Jadwat, asked whether the order on its face is valid, says No. Why? “I don’t think so, Your Honor, because the order is completely unprecedented.” To which one of the Fourth Circuit judges replies, with astonishment that seems mostly genuine: “So the first order on anything is invalid?”

As usual, the liberals have no coherent theory. Basically, they believe that anything they don’t like is unconstitutional. And “unconstitutional,” for them, has nothing to do with the actual written document called the Constitution, the charter on which our nation is founded. “Unconstitutional” merely means something they don’t like.

The sad fact is that Democratic presidents appoint Democratic judges who are willing to subscribe to such lawless nonsense.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/05/aclu-makes-it-official-the-only-thing-wrong-with-trumps-travel-order-is-trump.php




it's quite possible the kennedy's gave the "profile in absurd asshattery" to the wrong idiot liberal.




rrb said...

Those costs are the results of not requiring people of all ages be insured. Properly constructed, a single pay system where the risk is spread throughout the entire population.
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first of all alky, 0linsky-care was and is compulsory. the penalty for non-compliance is to pay a fine. it just so happens that the fine is significantly less expensive than the confiscatory premiums and deductibles. the logical and reasoned among us can do the math. only imbecilic liberals like you grapple with this fundamental concept.

second, it's tough to require "people of all ages" to comply, when you exempt all those from the ages of 18 to 26 by allowing them to stay on mommy and daddy's insurance. if the goal is to spread the costs "throughout the entire population," one should not voluntarily reduce the number of the "entire population."

i can appreciate your willingness to tie yourself into a gordian knot to spin the 0linsky-care shitpile into a positive, but your effort doesn't make you look like any less of an idiot. it just illustrates how far you'll go to defend the indefensible.





Commonsense said...

ACLU lawyer Omar Jadwat, arguing today before the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, told the court that President Trump’s travel order “could be constitutional” if it had been written by Hillary Clinton

This is an astonishing admission. For this reason alone the order should be upheld.

To do otherwise, would mean we have a capricious judiciary and the rule of law no longer applies.

rrb said...




"Why do we encourage a system where younger healthier workers are going to be much less likely to purchase insurance and ultimately bring up rates for everyone else that is left?"

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from each according to his ability; to each according to his need.

- karl marx


that's why. yours is an occam's razor question.





caliphate4vr said...

first of all alky, 0linsky-care was and is compulsory. the penalty for non-compliance is to pay a fine. it just so happens that the fine is significantly less expensive than the confiscatory premiums and deductibles. the logical and reasoned among us can do the math. only imbecilic liberals like you grapple with this fundamental concept.

My challenge to these assholes is still there.. name 1 country that has a successful single payer system, that is the size of a continent, has a 335 million non homogeneous population.

They never ever answer

They are good at theory, never action.

KD, Hillary is NOT over her Loss said...

My rates are not going to change unless the govmt goes belly up." Opium

Really, you don't think your Medicaid is going to go up, why is that, do you really believe that the US Government has the right to price fix?

Canada is not a true single payer, yes you can get shitty coverage with the state run only policy, but, most that have any money at all buy additional coverage.

Medicare has holes in it that are plug by buying additional coverage.

KD, Alky, how is your medicaid said...

Wait, what.


"Those costs are the results of not requiring people of all ages be insured. "

When does the Affordable side of ObimboCare kick in.


Amazing how little the Three Liberal Stooges know about ObimboCare, The current law requires all to have Health Care Insurance, period, or face ever steeper penalties.

opie said...

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
first of all alky, 0linsky-care was and is compulsory.

And was also a job/economy killer according to you, which is demonstrably false. Your posit about the US is not only absurd, but another sign you cannot think. Since you are the smartest insurance salesman and NVA here, you should help congress write a replacement since they seem incapable of cogent thought. IDIOT!!

Cue another comment about lipids.

KD, Economist Surprised by Trump Effect said...

It is getting easier and easier to forget the Lost Years.


"
Upward revisions are the surprise for the labor market conditions index where prior readings this year have been revised 2 points and higher. The first reading for April is 3.5 with March upgraded to 3.6 from 0.4 and February and January showing similar revisions to 3.2 and 2.3 respectively. This year's run, though still moderate, is now the best in 2 years. This index tracks a wide range of employment statistics including wages which have been soft compared to labor growth. "

KD said...

caliphate4vr said...
first of all alky, 0linsky-care was and is compulsory. "

Yep, how is it the Three Liberal Stooges did not know that?

caliphate4vr said...

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
first of all alky, 0linsky-care was and is compulsory.


Fatty that wasn't my post, fucking retard.

And I see you are still smarting over the beating, I brought down, regarding Clinton's admission he committed perjury.

LMAO

you are so easy

opie said...

The liar in chief continues his string of blaming everyone but himself...

Obama fired Flynn. The only reason he kept his clearance was for him to be able to have discussions with the the next administration for the sake of a smooth transition. I'm sure our esteemed host, our local expert on everything classified, will also blame obama like the good little repugnacon he is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/05/09/trumps-pointing-of-the-finger-at-obama-for-failing-to-vet-flynn/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_factchecker-605a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.24e1d28544ad





opie said...

Fatty that wasn't my post, fucking retard.

really??? Under your califart meme??? So you stole it as your own. Oh well, asshole, you really aren't as bright as I gave you credit for if you now claim you did not post that. Nice try and still wrong. God you are easier than loretta. LOLOL!!! And asshole, clinton admitted perjury well after his impeachment, which proved nothing. Thanx again for playing. The only thing you beat, was with your right hand.

rrb said...

My challenge to these assholes is still there.. name 1 country that has a successful single payer system, that is the size of a continent, has a 335 million non homogeneous population.

They never ever answer

They are good at theory, never action.
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but, but, but AUSTRALIA!!!11!

what's that?

they have a population of only 25 million people?

oh.

never mind...



LOL.




Commonsense said...

Opie still can't follow a thread.

Or acquaint himself with the conventions of quoting another comment.

Willful stupidity is no way to go through life.

caliphate4vr said...

really??? Under your califart meme???

Did you not note it was in bold? You really are too stupid to troll, you're awful at it.

Now when Bubba admitted he committed perjury, did that prove he committed perjury? Unlike your claim

Answer the question fatty

caliphate4vr said...

Opie still can't follow a thread.

Or acquaint himself with the conventions of quoting another comment.


The last diabetic coma/stroke from morbid obesity left him more brain damaged, than previously and he was stupid then

rrb said...

Canada is not a true single payer, yes you can get shitty coverage with the state run only policy, but, most that have any money at all buy additional coverage.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


and those who do have private insurance had to sue for the right to purchase it.

amazing. 0linsky-care made its purchase compulsory, and in canada one had to go to court to make a voluntary health insurance purchase.

if that doesn't illustrate how fucked up and totalitarian the left is, i don't know what does.


KD, Opie Good Morning Old Man said...

Yep easier and easier to forget the Lost Years.

NFIB Small Business Optimism Index
"index up to the highest level in 12 years"

Loretta Russo said...

Plus, Canadian health care treatment is based on age versus diagnosis.

In other words, the drunkard wouldn't be getting a transplant.

opie said...

Califart blames everyone but himself for posting trash under his own meme. Nice try. Idiot NVA salesasshole.

KD, Trump Effect and Yugely Biggly Winning said...

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
really??? Under your califart meme???

Did you not note it was in bold? You really are too stupid to troll, you're awful at it." Cali


He has a very hard time ass do all liberals following a chain of thought, now a cut-n- paste, they are better at that.


Follow his thinking or lack of on this.

My rates are not going to change unless the govmt goes belly up." Opium

He believe it, really I am sure his two IQ points have talked it over.

opie said...

Or acquaint himself with the conventions of quoting another comment.

Right jag off......without attribution or a link, you have again stolen other peoples words. IOW, plagiarized. The only convention followed is your stupidity and inability to think or post a cogent thought of your own. LOL! Like trump, blame everyone else, the repuglicon way. Idiot.

KD said...

Plus, Canadian health care treatment is based on age versus diagnosis.

In other words, the drunkard wouldn't be getting a transplant" Ette

I have this one saved, it is rich, he is not. If he were he would not be on Medicaid like he told WP he was on the morning after the election.
"
Roger Amick said...
wp, our incomes are defined benefit for life incomes. So no problem.

Unless Trump destroys Medcade."

opie said...


Did you not note it was in bold? You really are too stupid to troll, you're awful at it.

And you are too lazy to cite the source. I don't go through the whole thread to see where you stole something from. Again, you demonstrate why you are in sales, too lazy to do real work....Idiot.
Blame everyone but himself. You fail again. Time to go peddle you wares, califart, time is money.

KD, Marcon tired of interlopers said...

totalitarian the left " RRB

They are fucked up.

They did not read , nor did they care to read the policies that got Marcon Elected, here are a few.

Now that Macron won Yugly, what does he have planned for the France Economy.

Well, here is a short list:

1, Cut taxes by 33.9 EU Dollars
2, Lower Corporation tax rate from the current 33 % to 25 %

His platform on his web page said he will "herald a more pro-business approach".


Much Like Trump , don't ya think, he also is going to work to lower the unemployment rate that currently stands at 10.1 %.

KD, Opie we can not make you follow the thread said...

Opie, I know you are stupid, but damn boy, let it go, you fucked up again, stop digging your self inflicted bullet deeper into your leg.

Did you see the US Economy is stronger then at anytime in the last 12 years, racing by the very forgettable Lost Years.

Travis Smiley a full blown Negro Liberal sitting down with Megan Kelly. This is not the first time Smiley has trashed the Lost Years.


Megyn Kelly: On the subject of race, are we better off today that seven years ago?

Tavis Smiley: I’m not sure we are and I think ultimately the president missed a moment… On every leading economic issue, in the leading economic issues Black Americans have lost ground in every one of those leading categories. So in the last ten years it hasn’t been good for black folk. This is the president’s most loyal constituency that didn’t gain any ground in that period

rrb said...




SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Being a communist would no longer be a fireable offense for California government employees under a bill passed Monday by the state Assembly.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2017-05-08/california-may-end-ban-on-communists-in-government-jobs


opie said...

KD the goat fucker said..
Opie, I know you are stupid, but damn boy, let it go, you fucked up again,

Go hill a tomato.....Idiot. Police never join unions either. Idiot.

The only thing proved is califart is a lazy salesman, who cannot post his own thoughts. Thanx for playing asshole.

KD, Invest in Home Depot said...

The CBOE Volatility Index (VIX) -- better known as the Vix -- has dropped to its lowest level in more than a decade at 10 points. "

The US Markets are calm because we have a real President again.


KD. Opie continues to self inflict said...

Opie, tell us again how you believe US Medicare Rate are not ever going up and your past employer has not seen any rate increases in the Health Insurance Company they deal with, nor will they see rate increase in the future.

caliphate4vr said...

1) Fatty you are the only one that didn't realize by me emboldening the words they were being attributed to someone else. It's you who is too stupid to keep up, not everyone else

2)my nym or handle caliphate4vr isn't a meme
Sexually niave girl that's a meme.

We could easily make a meme out of fatDopie dreams about other men's junk and ejaculate

3) opie said...
Perjury is a high crime or misdemeanor.

Too bad that was never proved, menstral.

Attribution goes to fatty

See the word never in your post (that’s definitive)? Bubba’s admission mean’s you are fucking wrong

Now go slink away and eat a pie troll

LMAO

Loretta Russo said...

"california-may-end-ban-on-communists-in-government-jobs"

There was a ban?

Hard to tell.....

Commonsense said...

Or acquaint himself with the conventions of quoting another comment.

Right jag off......without attribution or a link, you have again stolen other peoples words.


It's rather silly to link to the same thread.

Look above. You quoted me without giving me attribution. I certainly didn't call you a plagiarizer. Willfully stupid maybe, but it's not plagiarism.

So why would you demand of others what you are unwilling to do yourself?

And why is it that you're the only one on the board who doesn't get it?

Commonsense said...

There was a ban?

Hard to tell.....


I was shock, that means the government establishment in California is illegal.

Loretta Russo said...

Exactly.

opie said...

It's rather silly to link to the same thread.

Or to copy rat's name according to the laziest poster here who copied everything but. Nice try defending another sloppy second repuglicon....

opie said...

Califart made up said......

one that didn't realize by me emboldening the words they were being attributed to someone else


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Another excuse for the terminally lazy and stupid georgian.

james said...

Senate Republicans Struggle to Find Challengers

The AP reports:
“In Wisconsin, Michigan and other states, Republicans have passed on challenging Democrats. Trump’s abysmal approval ratings loom large as does the typically rough going for the president’s party in midterm elections. Democratic senators in states Trump carried last year have capitalized on their party’s resistance to the president to post robust early fundraising.”

rrb said...

There was a ban?

Hard to tell.....
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it won't be long before the mexifornia state legislature is full of illegal beaners.

just follow the natural regression of the state.

james said...

SIGNS POINT TO A WAVE ELECTION

Charlie Cook: “Since In­aug­ur­a­tion Day, Pres­id­ent Trump has had the low­est job-ap­prov­al rat­ings of any newly elec­ted pres­id­ent since the first ‘sci­en­tific­ally based’ poll by George Gal­lup in 1936. More than any­thing else, midterm elec­tions are ref­er­enda on the in­cum­bent pres­id­ent. Ob­vi­ously no one knows what is go­ing to hap­pen in next year’s midterm elec­tions, but ana­lysts who have watched con­gres­sion­al elec­tions for a long time are see­ing signs that 2018 could be a wave elec­tion that flips con­trol of the House to Demo­crats.”

“The late Demo­crat­ic Speak­er Tip O’Neill was fam­ous for hav­ing said, ‘all polit­ics is loc­al.’ I would add an im­port­ant caveat: ‘All polit­ics is loc­al, ex­cept when it’s not.’ Roughly once a dec­ade we see a tid­al wave elec­tion, al­most al­ways at midterm, in which an in­vis­ible hand seems to boost can­did­ates of one party and drag down can­did­ates of the oth­er. Can­did­ates who nor­mally win big end up win­ning by smal­ler mar­gins. Law­makers who usu­ally have com­pet­it­ive races of­ten get sucked away by the un­der­tow. Dis­tricts that should be safe are no longer safe. Strong cam­paigns lose to weak cam­paigns, un­der­fun­ded cam­paigns topple well-fun­ded cam­paigns.”

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo.

Loretta Russo said...

"it won't be long before the mexifornia state legislature is full of illegal beaners."

Again, hard to tell it's not....

Loretta Russo said...

BTW, was just talking to someone who used to live in Normal, Illinois.

Rumor has it I'm probably right.....

rrb said...

SIGNS POINT TO A WAVE ELECTION
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huh.

a lot of signs pointed to HILLARY BY A LANDSLIDE!!!11!.

how'd that work out, pastor pederast?

LOL.

Loretta Russo said...

LOL

rrb said...



BTW, was just talking to someone who used to live in Normal, Illinois.

Rumor has it I'm probably right.....
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the pastor really IS a pederast.

shocker.


in other news - water is wet, the sun rises in the east, and we're all gonna die.


rrb said...


Roughly once a dec­ade we see a tid­al wave elec­tion, al­most al­ways at midterm, in which an in­vis­ible hand seems to boost can­did­ates of one party and drag down can­did­ates of the oth­er. Can­did­ates who nor­mally win big end up win­ning by smal­ler mar­gins. Law­makers who usu­ally have com­pet­it­ive races of­ten get sucked away by the un­der­tow. Dis­tricts that should be safe are no longer safe. Strong cam­paigns lose to weak cam­paigns, un­der­fun­ded cam­paigns topple well-fun­ded cam­paigns.”
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and that, boys and girls, is how barack 0linsky cost the democrats 1000+ seats at the state and federal level.

this is your lesson for today.

Loretta Russo said...

Yep.

cowardly king obama said...


This very easily could be a BIG WAVE election, like in good bye dimms.
Senate could easily surpass 60 vote threshold such as Obama had when he first took office.

guess then we'll never hear again from little jimmy

ROFLMFAO !!!!

Loretta Russo said...

LOL

C.H. Truth said...

James -

The RNC set a record for the most money raised ever in the first quarter of a year following a Presidential election. They outpaced the DNC by a fairly significant margin and currently have more cash on hand.

Whoever is telling you that it's the Democrats who are raising big chunks of change are simply not telling you the truth.

rrb said...

Ob­vi­ously no one knows what is go­ing to hap­pen in next year’s midterm elec­tions, but ana­lysts who have watched con­gres­sion­al elec­tions for a long time are see­ing signs that 2018 could be a wave elec­tion that flips con­trol of the House to Demo­crats.”
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How Bad Is the Democratic Senate Map for 2018?


Right now, the stars seem aligned for Democratic gains in 2018. President Trump’s approval rating is low, Democrats lead in the House generic ballot and special elections show Republicans losing ground with some voters. It’s still a long way to the midterms and Trump’s approval might change drastically, but almost all of the early tea leaves seem positive for the out-party.

Except for the Senate map.


Every political junkie knows the Senate map is bad for Democrats. Over half of the Democratic caucus will be up for re-election, and some of these incumbents represent highly red states such as Montana, North Dakota, West Virginia, Indiana and Missouri. No party would want to go into a midterm defending a map like that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/05/09/how_bad_is_the_democratic_senate_map_for_2018_133823.html

opie said...

They outpaced the DNC by a fairly significant margin and currently have more cash on hand.


And are spending a shit pile of it in georgia for a measly 1 seat. Once again, CH points out money is driving politics. Rather piss poor way to ruin a country. Oh well, simple minds say simple things and grade things on how much gold you have.

wphamilton said...

With the number of Democratic seats vs Republican up for re-election, their chances to flip the House are horrible. It will take more than Trump's current load of screwups to do it, but don't lose confidence. Screw-ups is Trump's specialty; he will deliver.

James said...

GOP Reps return home to infuriated town halls.