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Saturday, July 1, 2017

Bully Pulpit (perspective)

Morning Joe attracts just under one million viewers a day



Donald Trump has 33 million followers on his Twitter account*



*President also has 19 million followers on his @potus twitter account...

107 comments:

rrb said...



mika would be wise to exercise caution in her relationship with joe lest she end up dead like his intern.

opie said...

IOW's, 33 million idiots follow donnie on twitter.....I bet loretta is one of them since she has nothing else to do do but spam here. LOLOLOL Anyone want to bet bet what her next post will be?????

wphamilton said...

Likely about 32 million of Trump's 33 million twitter audience are like me: have followed because they don't want to be left out but certainly don't monitor their feed for the next pearl of wisdom from Trump! A million people watching a news show are deliberate, and engaged with the content. Trump tweets random opinions, probably repeating whatever the last person who talked to him said. There is really no comparison.

I've never seen that TV show, and in fact I don't watch any TV at all, so I have no idea about the content. I suspect that it's about as pointless as all the other TV that I don't watch, but a million viewers probably think otherwise. If I had the choice of spending 10 minutes reading Trump's tweets or watching the Morning Show, I'd probably choose TV and take Morning Joe more seriously.

Loretta said...

"mika would be wise to exercise caution in her relationship with joe lest she end up dead like his intern."

She's safe, unless she's his sister AND his new girlfriend.

He looks like the banjo player in Deliverance. I'll bet his family reunions are confusing as hell.

James said...
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James said...

Wphamilton: "If I had the choice of spending 10 minutes reading Trump's tweets or watching the Morning Show, I'd probably choose TV and take Morning Joe more seriously."
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Amen. I too don't watch either, but the tweets keep popping up in news articles each time Depraved Donald strikes again.

Loretta said...

"I've never seen that TV show,"

You aren't missing anything. I switch between the Caliphate News Network and MsDNC.

Their narrative is already falling apart, anyway.

C.H. Truth said...

WP... is now trying to argue that having one million people paying attention to you is better than having thirty three million.

Oh, how the former logical one has become twisted up in an emotional state of constant irrationality.

Another victim of "Trump broke me".

James said...

Actually, Ch, Wp was just expressing his own personal opinion as to which he would take more seriously, Trump's twitters or the show.

Oh how Ch has descended into utter irrationality when it comes to the task of responding fairly and even correctly to anyone who disagrees with him.

KD, Literally Bleeding Liberals said...

This is too good, yep the bleeding little woman is a cheating whore with little joe . , it is amazing the hero's the leftist here pick.

Well, if she did not wanted to be treated like an equal (to men) then the little bleeder should have said, look, I can trash men, all men all I want, but if the same comes around I am going to pull out my cunt , bleeding and all and expect, nay , Demand special treatment.

Alky, did the doctor sew up your bleeding mangina?

James said...

Note that the discourse here was civil (EVEN LORETTA'S!) until KD showed up with his usual tripe.

KD, WP Hi miss how you doing said...

"Depraved Donald" Jane the bleeder


Madam since you feel the need to steal the words of others, at least give the original writer the credit.

Got ACLU Letter Posted on CHT Yet?

Nancy Polosi, video funny.

James said...

See?

Loretta said...

Shut the fuck up troll.

You spam every damn thread, YOU have NO room to talk about ANYONE else.

C.H. Truth said...

James...

WP suggests that only about 1 million of the 33 million Trump followers are supporters who are actually interested in what he says... and that the other 32 million are just people like him who monitor it for other reasons.

It's just another very odd example of how so many people refuse to believe that Trump has any serious followers. It's like they already forgot that last November he won 30 states and had approximately 63 million people vote for him.

Liberals read Politico, WaPo, and NYT and believe that represents reality.

Loretta said...

He doesn't need you to explain anything, troll.

James said...

Not a shred of spam on this thread.

Go back and read what Wp really said again, Ch.

C.H. Truth said...

James:

This is what he wrote:

"Likely about 32 million of Trump's 33 million twitter audience are like me: have followed because they don't want to be left out but certainly don't monitor their feed for the next pearl of wisdom from Trump! "

That suggests (as I just offered) that he believes that only 1 million of the 33 million followers are true Trump supporters.

wphamilton said...

No it doesn't mean that. James 1 - CH 0

Loretta said...

That's exactly how and why Trump won.

A lot of Trump supporters/voters aren't college graduates, they're just good ole hard working middle class....

They recognize condescension when they see it.

Loretta said...

This thread? Fuck you, you don't decide.

Roger Amick said...

Compare the viewers on television to people watching it on Twitter his illegitimate there's no comparison there. Two different things altogether unrelated altogether unrelated why do you reach this. It's obvious that is not the same thing. And Donald Trump's impulsive attacks which he did again today detract from what he has to get done as president and it looked makes him look like a fool like a f****** fool and makes our country look like we got an idiot in charge and you don't seem to care oh well that's the way it is I guess have a good day kiss Trump on the ass he likes it

James said...

Thanks Wp.
James 1, Ch 0 sounds good to me.
You just made some enemies, you know. :-)

C.H. Truth said...

WP...

So you really didn't mean what you wrote, huh?

Either 32 of the 33 million are like you (leaving 1 million real supporters)...

Or your comment was B.S.

Roger Amick said...

I follow Donald Trump on Twitter and I watch Morning Joe so lots of people are like that. If you look at the responses to his tweets on majority or are angry at him they don't like him if they're not many of the in supported if you look at the number of responses they are not positive and large large numbers I've looked at that I don't know you did but I did most of the responses are negative. And they're not negative up to Joe they're not somehow because of the idiot but most of them are good job stuff like that. This doesn't seem too I don't get it I tried how you can jump through these hoops of logic that are illogical well I know you get mad when I can when I question your judgment sometimes you can't I can't help myself you just go off on a wall like this and off you go it just doesn't make sense I don't care cuz I got to go to the gym in a few minutes and I'm not going to worry about you or anybody else I'm just going to get myself in shape and as I'm doing cuz I'm in incredible condition and I will remove release from the hot from the rehab next Thursday released. I will be home on Thursday that'll be one month and two days after surgery not bad.

James said...

See, Wp?

James said...

Trump has great ability to dominate the media, but now real journalists have come to realize how they let him misuse them. That will not be so easy for him to do the next time, if he even survives till a next time.

He has gone after the media, often unfairly. That invites them to come after him. But fairly, I hope.

His outrages deserve to be called onto the carpet of real journalistic examination and investigation.

C.H. Truth said...

I watch Morning Joe so lots of people are like that

You are one of less than 1 million out of 320 million Americans. So unless you believe that 0.3% of he population represents "lot's of people" - I think you overestimate Morning Joe's audience.

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

KD, said...

Jane, how exactly do you make an enemy on the internet, that whole concept of yours is really very silly, childish and vapid, and I am being as kind to you as I can.

Please, explain, WP happened to agree with you, that does not make WP an enemy of anyone that I know of, so do explain , or is this just one more of many you put something on this blog and then tuck your tail and run , again?

Commonsense said...

Liberals kill.

Thousands of unresponsive patients might actually be conscious


Terri Schiavo's family was right. So was Jeb Bush.

James said...

Not about Terri Schiavo, they weren't.

wphamilton said...

Real supporter != hanging on twitter feed to catch every utterance on twitter.

In other words, CH, there could be another million, or 10 million, followers on Twitter who are Trump supporters who do NOT monitor his twitter feed for information or opinions. Who only have it - as do I - to see his tweets for ourselves when we want to. Supporter or otherwise. Someone who watches a TV news or talk show however, has a different aim. They are deliberately exposing themselves to the opinions and talk for that period of time. It's also a block of time, not a half-snippet to glance at for 2 seconds.

You see the difference, don't you?

Loretta said...

"Terri Schiavo's family was right. So was Jeb Bush."

Very sad.

Commonsense said...

James said...
Not about Terri Schiavo, they weren't.


How would you know? You think you're God now?

Loretta said...

Smarter than God, remember?

Commonsense said...

Yeah, keep reminding me why I have no use for him.

James said...

Terry Schiavo, it was discovered, had a brain that was about as effective as a dried up walnut. That's why I have no use for people who would keep a person alive in such a state.

God knows God gave us the good sense to decide to take expensive medical attention away from the already dead and focus it on those who could benefit from it.

James said...

Now this I believe. If Alex Jones says it, it MUST be so.
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NASA Denies That It’s Running a Child Slave Colony on Mars

On Thursday, Alex Jones welcomed a guest to talk about how kidnapped children have been sent on a two-decade mission to space. NASA now denies the interplanetary conspiracy.

A report on Alex Jones’ InfoWars claiming child sex slaves have been kidnapped and shipped to Mars is untrue, NASA told The Daily Beast on Thursday.

“There are no humans on Mars. There are active rovers on Mars. There was a rumor going around last week that there weren’t. There are,” Guy Webster, a spokesperson for Mars exploration at NASA, told The Daily Beast. “But there are no humans.”

On Thursday’s program, the InfoWars host welcomed guest Robert David Steele onto The Alex Jones Show, which airs on 118 radio stations nationwide, to talk about kidnapped children he said have been sent on a two-decade mission to space.

“We actually believe that there is a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space on a 20-year ride,” said Steele. “So that once they get to Mars they have no alternative but to be slaves on the Mars colony.”

Jones echoed Steele, saying “clearly they don’t want us looking into what is happening” because “every time probes go over they turn them off.”

“Look, I know that 90 percent of the NASA missions are secret and I’ve been told by high level NASA engineers that you have no idea. There is so much stuff going on,” Jones said.

At the beginning of his campaign in December of 2015, President Donald Trump told Alex Jones that “your reputation is amazing” and “I will not let you down” in a half-hour interview on InfoWars.

In the 2016 campaign, Jones amplified the baseless Pizzagate conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton’s campaign was running a child sex ring under the basement of a D.C. pizza shop that has no basement. The theory was kicked off by a Reddit user who claimed John Podesta’s hacked emails show proof of a global child sex ring if one were to replace the word “pizza” with “little boy.”

Edgar M. Welch fired shots into that pizza shop after sending a video of one of Jones’ segments to a friend, according to police.

Jones has since apologized directly to James Alefantis, the owner of Comet Pizza, in a carefully worded letter and statement. He later hired Mike Cernovich, who pushed Pizzagate-related hashtags prior to the election in an effort to make them trend on Twitter, as an InfoWars host. Cernovich was granted a one-day pass to the White House press briefing in May, and Donald Trump Jr. said he would “win a Pulitzer” in a “long gone time of unbiased journalism.”
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

On Thursday’s Infowars broadcast, Steele alleged the kidnapped children were not only being kidnapped for space labor, but also murdered for their blood and bone marrow.

"Pedophilia does not stop with sodomizing children,” said Steele. “It goes straight into terrorizing them to adrenalize their blood and then murdering them. It also includes murdering them so that they can have their bone marrow harvested as well as body parts.”

“This is the original growth hormone,” said Jones.

When NASA’s Webster was asked about the veracity of the one rumor by The Daily Beast on Thursday, he responded, “there’s only one stupid rumor on the Internet? Now that’s news."
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NASA is obviously lying. The Martians are keeping those child sex slaves in basements.

Loretta said...

"Pedophilia does not stop with sodomizing children,”

Something you know all about, eh.

Loretta said...

"Yeah, keep reminding me why I have no use for him."

He really is a despicable person.

James said...

Even Jesus said he was not smarter than God:

"But about that day or hour, no one knows,
neither the angels in heaven, no the Son,
but only the Father." Mark 13:32


Sort of shoots down Commonsense's notion of
GOD THE FATHER
GOD THE SON &
GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT.


James said...

Attention, ACLU!
Let it be noted that Commonsense keeps slandering me as a
pedophile and Chtruth is doing nothing to discourage that.
Open letter to the ACLU may be closer than ever.
:=)

opie said...

, it was discovered, had a brain that was about as effective as a dried up walnut

And Dr Frist, by virtue of watching her on TV declared she was functioning. Jebby signed law to keep her alive and W signed a measure from congress. The end was, as James denoted. All those pro lifers just prolonged the inevitable and not one of them apologizes to the husband. It was a sad, sad day of Republicon's interfering with peoples lives for their own personal reasons. That is one of the main reasons I abhor bible thumping R's who want all to live THEIR CHRISTIAN life.

Commonsense said...

Terry Schiavo, it was discovered, had a brain that was about as effective as a dried up walnut.

There was enough brain function that no ventilator was required. And if you think just given he food, water and physical care to maintain her human dignity is just expensive medical treatment than what you truly are is a ghoul.

When they took away the water, food and care it took two weeks for her to die of starvation and dehydration.

And if she was conscious, as scientist now concedes was a distinct possibility, it was two week of unmitigated, horrible hell.

I could only wish the same for you for your unchristian and callous adherence to your liberalism in the face of the cold hard facts.

Loretta said...

Stupid fuck, you're the one spamming the thread about pedophilia.

Loretta said...

Well CS, he never did condemn Gosnell....

Never.

James said...

3:49 PM Opie's
Amen. I take the Bible seriously and even literally where it can be so taken, but not when it tells me that touching a dead corpse is an abomination.

3:49 PM Common's
I would not wish any such thing on even you or "Loretta," Commonsense.

opie said...

There was enough brain function that no ventilator was required.

Brain stem function....the most basic part of the brain which has ZERO awareness of its surroundings. It was as functional as an amoeba. It is surely not your business or the government to interfere with the family and the tragedy they have to endure. Typical cultist, preach to others about how they are heathens. Idiot.

Loretta said...

Horseshit, you've said worse.

James said...

Scientific evidence be damned. Religious fanatics follows their prejudices.

Commonsense said...

And Dr Frist, by virtue of watching her on TV declared she was functioning. Jebby signed law to keep her alive and W signed a measure from congress. The end was, as James denoted. All those pro lifers just prolonged the inevitable and not one of them apologizes to the husband.

Ex-husband at the time, who was looking at a financial payday that was inconveniently delayed for him because his ex-wife was still alive.

Her mother and father wanted to continue her have that their expense but that was not good enough for him. (He still wouldn't get is payday as long as she was alive).

All those pro lifers just prolonged the inevitable

With proper food and case she would have live out a normal life span. She was not terminal by any means.

Republicon's interfering with peoples lives for their own personal reasons. That is one of the main reasons I abhor bible thumping R's who want all to live THEIR CHRISTIAN life.

Yeah, because to not interfere was to sanction a murder. You're as hateful as James.

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

Commonsense said...

Scientific evidence be damned.

The scientific evidence now say that she may have been conscious all along and just not able to communicate.

Yeah, science be damned if it's inconvenient to a liberal agenda.

You know, like human life begins at conception.

James said...

*follow

Trump Is an Unreliable Ally for Republicans

Dan Balz: “The president appears to have no commitment to an explicit strategy for getting a health-care bill to his desk, only a desire for victory and limited patience for the legislative process.

"He also has no fixed views on the substance of health-care reform, having made contradictory statements about the topic throughout his campaign and since.

“He has said he wants a health-care system with heart,
one in which everyone is covered.

"But he embraces legislation that would leave 22 to 23 million additional Americans without coverage by 2026, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

"When the House passed its health-care bill in May, he showered it and GOP leaders with praise.

"Later he called the measure “mean.”

"He campaigned against cuts in entitlements — Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid. [Yet t}he congressional legislation would revamp Medicaid, significantly slowing the growth in spending.”

IOW, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL HE REALLY WANTS OR IS DOING.


Bonus Quote of the Day

“I think it’s challenging and challenged. We will see what happens, but this is a difficult topic that touches every American family. And the more members of the Senate and the House both know about it, I think the harder it is to reach that conclusion you would like to get to.”
— Sen. Roy Blount (R-MO), in an interview with PBS Newshour, on the struggle to get the votes for the GOP health care bill.

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

James said...

Senate Republicans Ask for Two CBO Scores

I don't know why. Ch says they aren't worth the paper they;re written on.
_________
“That would give Republicans a better idea of the impact of [Cruz;'] proposal, which would let insurers sell health plans that don’t meet Affordable Care Act standards — including, potentially, waiving the pre-existing condition rules — as long as they also sell plans that comply with all of the ACA insurance regulations.”
_____________

Trump never dreamed it could be so complicated.

Commonsense said...

I would not wish any such thing on even you or "Loretta," Commonsense.

You certainly wished it on Terri Schiavo.

James said...

All birth control must be outlawed. It prevents potential human life from forming. Every sex act should be playing dice with having a baby.

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

At least it's not about pedophilia this time.

James said...

If I am ever in Terri's situation, please pull the plug.

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling, at least it's not about pedophilia this time.

James said...

And now I wish you two sickos a fond farewell for now.

Commonsense said...

If I am ever in Terri's situation, please pull the plug.

There was no plug to pull that was the point idiot.

But if you want to starve and die of thirst then be my guess.

James said...

Two Thanksgivings ago my father, my sister, and I had make the difficult decision to place my mother on palliative care in the hospital. That meant she would not be fed unless she developed the desire and ability to eat. Fortunately for us and for her, she died very soon after the decision was made.

Myballs said...

Cht is right. To suggest that most of Trump's Twitter followers are there merely to laugh at him is absurd. His personality not withstanding, his message resonates. Evidence his wins in OH, PA, MI, WI. There are millions of voters who want to hear his message without the filter of a media who tried their best to defeat him and still work to delegitimize him.

The media is part of the reason trump won.

James said...

I should add that she had often expressed her desire NOT to be hooked up to machinery which would keep her artificially alive.

Loretta said...

"tried their best to defeat him and still work to delegitimize him."

It goes way beyond delegitimizing him.

It's all about unseating a duly elected sitting President.

Period.

wphamilton said...

To be clear, only Myballs has said anything about twitter followers "there merely to laugh", and then only to call the idea "absurd". I was a little puzzled that you'd interject with that, but then realized that you're trying to lay bait? Get people to argue about absurd or laughable tweets and then make the whole discussion about that?

As a point in fact, I'm on record here applauding the idea of the President speaking directly through social media, so I'm really agreeing with you, MyBalls, on your principle point there. However, how does that support CH's idea that it means 33 million followers are strong Trump supporters? How does it follow from that, given the tiny information bandwidth of the channel, that it's a better reach of audience than a TV show with one million viewers?

C.H. Truth said...

Seriously WP...

Are you trying to argue that a Trump tweet does not provide a larger reach than the Morning Joe show?

Not only does Trump have 33 million people following him, you have probably millions more who read his tweets from other sources. For instance, I have his twitter feed bookmarked on the hub page. I don't even have a twitter feed that I monitor personally, but I read his tweets. Others will see the "retweets" from those who follow him first hand.

Add to that, the enormous amount of coverage he gets from his tweeting over other news outlets...

and you seriously want to argue that the 980K that watch Morning Joe somehow represent a bigger "reach"?


Btw... whether you are a Trump supporter, a Trump hater, or something in between. How does that really matter as to whether or not Trump is using Twitter to get out his messages? Does it "only" count if it goes to partisan Trump supporters?

james said...

A person in my church, whose political philosophy I do not know, just mentioned, by way of example, how much he wished Our President would stop responding to every little critique he gets with twitter.

"It says more about him than about the critique," he said.

Amused, James said...

Surely a lot of Trump's enemies are tuned in to his twitter account, just as enemies of Obama were tuned in to his.

The opposition is always looking for fodder.

Amused, James said...

Trump Tweets Video of Him Punching CNN

President Trump tweeted an animated video of him tackling and punching a man with the CNN logo as his face.

Reuters reports the video appeared to be a modified version of a 2007 appearance by Trump at World Wrestling Entertainment’s WrestleMania 23 promotion, in which Trump “takes down” WWE Chairman Vince McMahon.

Playbook: “The president has just sent his 33 million followers a video of himself pummeling a man covered by the CNN logo. CNN anchors and reporters — indeed, anchors and reporters from many media outlets — have been threatened and harassed. The president tweeted this message from the comfort of his summer golf home in New Jersey, surrounded by Secret Service. Meanwhile journalists are in the field, across the country and the world.”

CNN responds: “It is a sad day when the President of the United States encourages violence against reporters.”
__________________

It's an even sadder day when the President of the United States comes across as a little schoolyard bully who has never grown up.

Amused, James said...

Trump May Make Surprise Visit to Britain

Sunday Times: “Ministers are on the alert for a flying visit to Britain by Donald Trump this month. Senior government officials say they expect the American president to make an unscheduled stop at his Aberdeenshire golf course as part of his trip to Europe to attend France’s Bastille Day celebrations on July 14.

“Theresa May’s team are on standby for Trump to visit Downing Street as well. It is understood that any visit would be confirmed only 24 hours in advance so anti-Trump protesters did not have time to disrupt his visit.”
__________________

24 hours means there WILL be protesters.

Amused and encouraged, James said...

GOP Senators Face Pushback From Governors

“Republican senators, back in their home states this week, have one constituent whose influential views on health care they will likely hear whether or not they hold town-hall meetings: their governor,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

“These governors, some of whose states stand to lose billions of dollars in Medicaid funding under the Senate health bill, are likely to press senators to keep as much funding as possible. That pressure reflects a risk taken by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), perhaps unavoidably, in deciding to delay a vote on the GOP health-care bill until after this week’s July 4 recess.”

Fucking spamming james said...

CHT discourages:

- reprinting other people's opinion (C&P)

- excessive linking of other websites

ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED ?

Rhetorical Question

ROFLMFAO !!!

Amused and encouraged, James said...


Los Angeles Times:
Meet the 6 Governors Leading the Charge Against the GOP Senate Health Plan.

Anonymous Fucking spamming james said...


ENOUGH ALREADY !

NOBODY READS YOUR FUCKING TRIPE

WHAT A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT you are

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling at least it isn't about pedophilia this time.

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling, at least it's not about pedophilia this time.

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling, at least it's not about pedophilia this time.

Loretta said...

"WHAT A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT you are"

At least it's not about pedophilia today.

james's fucking dad said...


james is busy writing his own bible to teach from

throw another log on the fire down below

he's very beneath the ethics of a man of the cloth.

OF COURSE WHAT THE FUCK DO I CARE....... ROFLMFAO !!!

Good ole gentle truth-seeking gentle pastor James said...

Rhetorical question:

When will Ch start enforcing his "discouragement" of
name calling,
insulting,
excessive use of profanity,
and stops allowing out and out
slander and libel (attention, ACLU!),
and explains why he broke a basic rule of blogging by putting up my picture without my permission (attention, ACLU!)?

THEN I will negotiate an end to C & P,
---which at the least, is informative.

And you know good and well you DO read it. :-)

Commonsense said...

Well James, you can address the problem on your own by leaving.

If fact if you did, the problem would go away.

You see James, you're the problem.

james's fucking daddy said...


as should be obvious to even a FUCKING IDIOT like james I only post after he has violated the blog rules by spamming or trolling. Guess what, james controls his own fucking destiny and the blog would be workable if he leaves or follows the rules.

Until then every time I come here and see his sophomoric behavior I will respond in kind. FUCK YOU "PASTOR" JIM BOSWELL. You are not above us.

ROFLMFAO !!

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

Loretta said...

LOL

Loretta said...

"Well James, you can address the problem on your own by leaving."

Or, he could start acting like a decent human being....

....instead of an obnoxious troll.

Commonsense said...

Or, he could start acting like a decent human being....

I would only suggest things that are possible.

Loretta said...

HA!

opie said...

Rhetorical question:

When will Ch start enforcing his "discouragement" of

Yeah right. With the liar in chief as the prime example of childish behavior and lies, you expect CH to man up and police the sycophants here???? Do you think CH would be proud if his spawn posted the trash donnie is twitting??? Or loretta would be proud of her dysfunction spawn if they acted the same way? I know that is a reach, but even she is a mother, I think!!! LOLOLOL

it is a sad day watching his people with straight faces saying that WWE BS is acceptable, it is just donnie punching back. If somebody gets killed because of it, they will just come up with another excuse of stupidity for his followers.....

Commonsense said...

Opie is in full hypocrite drama queen mode.

opie said...

Commonsense said...
Opie is in full hypocrite drama queen mode.

IOW's, my behavior, a nothing, is unacceptable, which is true at times, and trumps as President is fine. Yep, your an idiot!!!!

Commonsense said...

Well it is true your behaviour is unacceptable at times Opie.

I would venture to say it's unacceptable most of the time.

Must be that FDU training.

opie said...

I would venture to say it's unacceptable most of the time.

Opinions are like assholes and to me, you have multiple. LOL Must be that GED bible you keep thumping.

Gentle truth-seeking good natured fair minded James said...

You are not above us.

Actually, I'm not. Or rather, I would not be if some of you did not lower yourselves with posts like some of those above.

YOU yourselves put yourselves beneath me. Thanks.

wphamilton said...

Blogger C.H. Truth said...
Seriously WP...

Are you trying to argue that a Trump tweet does not provide a larger reach than the Morning Joe show?

Not only does Trump have 33 million people following him, you have probably millions more who read his tweets from other sources.


The media covers everything a President does or says in public. That fat gives the President unparalleled reach. His Twitter feed, not so much.

One in thirty followers influenced or informed by a twitter feed is in fact being generous. Have YOU ever conducted a marketing campaign through social media, social networks, or similar techniques? For this blog perhaps? I have, and finding a response of better than 3% would in fact be so outstanding for that channel that I'd suspect something wrong with the data.

Comparing 33 million twitter followers to one million viewers of a TV show, yes absolutely I'd say the show has better reach. Likely, much better reach.

C.H. Truth said...

I have advertising campaigns on my website as does pretty much every blog I read... How many people click on an ad has nothing to do with how many people read a blog...


You can continue to argue that the Morning Joe message reaches more people than the Donald Trump tweet message all you want...

It just makes you sound stubborn and unwilling to admit to even the most obvious of mistakes.

James said...

Trump's wrestling video I just saw for the first time. Whereas many call it threatening, I call it sadly childish.

Childish. Childish. A President with the mentality of a bullying little boy.
________________

I say, let him TWEET TWEET TWEET AWAY. And so define his insensitive, stupid self.

James said...

Originally sent yesterday.

wphamilton said...

Blogger C.H. Truth said...
I have advertising campaigns on my website as does pretty much every blog I read... How many people click on an ad has nothing to do with how many people read a blog...


As a marketing campaign it has everything to do with it. I may have a different perspective because for a number of years, paying the rent depended on how many people I could get to my internet sales. I did investigate Twitter in the early days with a limited, controlled test. Highly targeted to consumers who could be interested in the product, and I gathered about 700 followers in a few days with a gimmick. That's not a lot, but barely enough for a test and also an indication that I could scale it up easily if I wanted to. Followers, even targeted, is not the problem, given a little imagination.

Without going into detail, I can tell you that it was the least effective in driving traffic of any alternatives at the time, including other forms of social media. Additionally the time sink to achieve results was even greater than other social media, which as you should know is already considerable. I'd have literally orders of magnitude better effectiveness even with Google Adwords.

So my point is I'm not speaking off the cuff here, not hot air based on guesswork. I had a critical interest in the performance, you might say professional experience in multiple channels of internet traffic driving, and conducted pseudo-scientific tests. Better testing, at any rate, than public information. Trump's followers are anything but targeted, and the size of his feed has an insignificant impact on directly influencing the public. What Trump's feed DOES do, is provide him a bull-horn that shouts directly to the media and other internet propagation. It wouldn't really matter if his feed had one million, or one thousand followers, because it would still provide him with that.

In a nutshell, his 33 million followers is literally irrelevant. One million viewers of a TV show is small, but still significant. If you're making a direct comparison to the effectiveness of the deliberate viewership to the size of a twitter feed, especially an untargeted one, the show wins no question.

C.H. Truth said...

I don't believe Donald Trump is trying to sell advertising on his twitter account... and I have not made any arguments about whether or not I would advertise on Twitter or MSNBC. That's apples to the oranges that I am referring to.



What I know for a plain fact is that millions and millions more Americans read Donald Trump's twitter feed than watch Morning Joe.

I know that for a plain fact that even a larger amount of people hear what Donald Trump is saying about Scarborough and Brzezinski than what they are saying about him.

I would bet that most Americans couldn't even say "what" Scarborough and Brzezinski was saying about Trump "prior" to Trump drawing attention to it.

I would also argue that Morning Joe will get a rating boost because Trump tweeted about them... and that nothing Scarborough and Brzezinski ever say about Trump will drive anyone to his site.

James said...

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good old gentle fair minded James said...



Associated Press just put up a damning story 43 minutes ago:
"Trump's Twitter battle with press may come with a price"

I think you can bank on it.
KEEP TWEETING, DONALD!

wphamilton said...

What I know for a plain fact is that millions and millions more Americans read Donald Trump's twitter feed than watch Morning Joe.

Well there you go. You don't know this "for a fact", and from my experience and testing it's highly unlikely to be true. All you know, as plain fact, is that he has a number of followers. You don't know at all how many of those followers read the President's tweets, or any tweets.

It it really was a "plain fact", then marketing campaigns on Twitter would have much greater effectiveness than they do. An ineffectiveness that you appear to acknowledge, because the plain fact is that it is ineffective to the point of uselessness. A lot of people try it, a pipe dream of "viral marketing" blinding them to the real fact that it never works. There are only two companies that I know of who have used Twitter to any real effect, and even they used it for specific service issues not penetration.

I know that for a plain fact that even a larger amount of people hear what Donald Trump is saying about Scarborough and Brzezinski than what they are saying about him.

Granted Trump has a much larger podium. But that comes along with the office of the President, not Twitter.