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Sunday, July 2, 2017

Guilty states not turning over voter data?

As most people have already heard, the Federal Government is doing a study on vote fraud

Minnesota, which had hundreds of convictions for voter fraud following the Franken/Coleman recount fiasco, is one of the states refusing to turn over their voter roll information to the Federal Government.

Move along... nothing here to see!

Of course, Minnesota is still one of the hold out states who refuse to accept that 99% of legitimate voters have ID and are more than willing to provide it. We are allowed to walk in, tell the person who we are, sign our name, and then go vote.

This, of course, saves me the 15 seconds it otherwise would require for me to pull out my driver's licence and present it.

We also allow for same day voter registration, even for people without ID. All you need is someone living in the district to "vouch" for you and you can register and vote on the spot, without identification.  Now this has led to things like buses full of Wisconsin college students walking into a Minnesota polling station with one person willing to vouch for the whole lot.

Now our state government has suggested that the state law only requires them to turn it over for "political purposes" and "law enforcement". In other words, if the Democratic Party or Republican Party wants to purchase our voter roll information to use as a means to pin us down on targeted political advertising and other spam, that's completely acceptable.

But if someone actually wants to do a real bona-fide investigation based on actual voter data, then somehow our Governor's office had determined that this is somehow a violation of the rights of Minnesotans.

What it really tells me, is that our Democratic Governor and Secretary of State are afraid of what this particular investigation might turn up.

126 comments:

Roger Amick said...

States controlled by both Republicans and Democrats are refusing to turn over those records. We want the name social security number voting record and party line alignment with everybody in the goddamn country and a database why. Now your president has also not so subtly has advocated the use of violence against journalists.

Commonsense said...

Well Roger, I know you're somewhat handicap since it does take the sophistication of an 8-year-old to tell the diffrence between real violence and a WWF wrestling show.

KD, Welfare Alky, bilking the American Tax Payer Daily said...

Welfare Alky, stop bleeding from your mangina.

CS. you mean when a Democrat took a rifle and handgun to go on a Political Hunt to bag some Trophy Republicans on a baseball field, like that real gun firing violence.





Roger Amick said...

As usual you don't understand the implication. Unstable people may take that seriously and start beating up on journalist or worse. Of Course that does not bother you is you don't believe in The Freepress anyhow.

It is in the First Amendment for a reason. They may be faulty at times they make mistakes but this is what keeps us free. Donald Trump wants to stifle it. If it isn't for him he wants it band. These implications of far over your empty little head they really do.

Mensa my ass.

Roger Amick said...

If President Obama and August of 2016 had requested that all states send their voting logs to the White House. The screaming would be rigged rigged rigged rigged rigged. Every single one of you would have said the same thing. An effort to rig the election. Vote fraud is very rare in this country as well documented no matter what CH says. We argue this for years ago and guess what he was wrong then and I'm right now. There is no proof of widespread vote fraud in Minnesota or anywhere else in this country. Trump is claiming over 3 million people voted for Clinton illegally. There is absolutely no proof of any kind to support that allegation. Yet you believe it even though there is no proof at all none. Outside of the right-wing nutcase maybe Alex Jones can tell you as he sees down from Mars.

KD, Welfare Alky re-writes histroy , laughable said...

I just learned from Welfare Alky a new history lesson, one in which I will save to use in the future.

"what keeps us free. " Welfare Alky

Really, your version of history is the US Media is what made us free and keeps us free, omg funny.

Commonsense said...

As usual you don't understand the implication. Unstable people may take that seriously and start beating up on journalist or worse.

In actual fact the only thing we've had so far was left-wing politicians and media gening up an unstable person to shoot Republican congressmen.

Rhetoric you cheered every step of the way.

So spare up the drama queen hypocrisy.

C.H. Truth said...

Simple Roger...

It's easy to find nothing, when you are not wanting to look real hard. If there was no real voter fraud, then studying the voter rolls would show that to be the case.

Commonsense said...

As I said before, the commission is not asking the states for any more information than they gladly give any political campaign (for a price).

It's going to be pretty hard to argue privacy when they readily give the information to every Tom, Dick and Harry who ask for it.

KD, Welfare ALky, you dumb ass sissy said...

drama queen hypocrisy. " CS

It is his only move, having lost the election when he said "Hillary had it all " and was on the way to a historic win, what was his predicted landslide..... something like 350 Electoral votes for Hillary.

3 am Nov 9th,2016 is when the world of the liberal became a living Hell as WE the Voters did not lock step with Hillary and chose a FREE Path to President Trump.

opie said...

an 8-year-old to tell the difference between real violence and a WWF wrestling show.

Please. If wrestling is fake which means linda mcmahon is a fake also since she ran a fake organization. LOLOL......

opie said...

But if someone actually wants to do a real bona-fide investigation based on actual voter data,

If that was only true. Wonder what the real agenda of the commission is since they have never explained it. if it looks like a witch hunt, walks like a witch hunt, it probably is. You and trump are hoping to find millions of illegal and dead voters that pushed hillary over the top of the popular vote.

Commonsense said...

Please. If wrestling is fake which means linda mcmahon is a fake also since she ran a fake organization. LOLOL......

The people who go there know it's just a show. So does everybody else. That why you never see a betting line on professional wrestling.

You're not the brightest bulb to ever matriculate at FDU are you?

opie said...

The people who go there know it's just a show.

Yeah sure, GED. She is a fraud who makes lots of money milking idiot republicon's like you. Like PT Barnum said, and you are the prime example, of a fool born every minute....LOLOLOL A betting line is about as relevant as your cultist belief. That's why you never see educated people standing in line to buy tickets.

opie said...

Seems to me after a little research that CH's allegation of voter fraud in Mn during the Franken election is nothing more than wishful thinking and my. Sure would like to know where the hundreds of convictions were and how CH came up with that fake number. LOL

http://www.startribune.com/voter-fraud-stuffing-ballot-boxes-or-the-stuff-of-myth/176195981/...

But Freeman said that once his office started investigating, they found many names submitted by McGrath from the 2008 election to be incorrect. Ultimately, the county charged 38 felons who voted before their rights were restored -- less than 1/100th of 1 percent of the roughly 665,000 votes cast.

Freeman said he believes most of those convictions were the result of mistakes, not attempts to influence the election.
.

Like the old saying....SHit happens.....looks like the main culprit.

opie said...

Yep....hundreds of convictions according to our lying esteemed host. He is taking up trump's mantra, make up shit and see if anyone notices. How quant and so republicon.

In Minnesota, there have been 10 total cases of reported fraud and no cases of voter impersonation reported since 2000.

https://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2012/08/cases-voter-id-election-fraud-found-virtually-non-existent

How the mighty have lost their ever lovin mind. LOLOLOL

Roger Amick said...

According to One Source I have this information. I cannot verify its truthfulness or not could be interesting but it doesn't mean that there was a lot of people voting illegally we don't know that
in Minnesota -it turns out that ignorance of the law is a legitimate excuse. In order to convict someone, you have to prove that they understood that they were not supposed to vote. All someone has to do is claim they were not aware that they were voting illegally, and the case is dropped.

My source did not provide law section that said that. I find it hard to believe that I personally don't have to admit committing a crime to even get charged it doesn't make sense to me. But then I'm just an ignorant alky you know how that is. 5 years 1 month and 7 days.

FYI Opie, I get released from rehab on Thursday and go home after a session at UCLA. How does one month and 3 days after surgery. I am surprised everybody. The doctor's with therapist they can't believe it they're happy. Rrb did not get his way did not get he wanted no I'm still here and I'll out think him without even trying. I'm still alive and prospering. So are rrb can go kiss my ass.

Roger Amick said...

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. That's a standard legal statement. If I didn't know Murder was a crime I'm not guilty I can't be charged. Something seems wrong with that. I never know I don't know I didn't check it out.

KD Alky financial broken and Moral bankrupt said...

God your stupid.

KD, Very Fake News Caught again, is not news at all said...

According to One Source I have this information. I cannot verify its truthfulness"

CNN
ABC
NBC


Correction to the prior post.

God you're stupid.

KD, Have a red white and blue fourth said...

“Since the signing of the Declaration of Independence 241 years ago, America always affirmed that liberty comes from our Creator. Our rights are given to us by God, and no earthly force can ever take those rights away. That is why my administration is transferring power out of Washington and returning that power back where it belongs — to the people,” Trump said.

“Our religious liberty is enshrined in the very first amendment in the Bill of Rights. The American founders invoked our creator four times in the Declaration of Independence,” the president said. “Benjamin Franklin reminded his colleagues at the Constitutional Convention to begin by bowing their heads in prayer. Inscribed on our currency are the words: ‘In God We Trust.’” President Donald Trump

the response from the former prez, "too much Patriotism in the USA today" reliable sources report

Roger Amick said...

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Economic Summit - Washington
Governor of Virginia Terry McAuliffe speaks
“The only irregularity in the 2016 presidential election centered around Russian tampering,” said Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, in a statement.

Indiana Secretary of State Connie Lawson, a Republican, said Friday the state would not release personal information, but would treat the letter as a public records request and provide only information that is considered in the public domain under the law.

Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill, a Republican, said his state would share only public information and would do so “if we are convinced that the overall effort will produce the necessary results” to accomplish the commission’s goal “without compromising the integrity of the voter rolls and the elections process in Alabama."

27 states are refusing to supply the data to the commission.

Roger Amick said...

My source K'putz,is not from the media. You accuse me of being stupid is very hilarious because you have the IQ of one of your cows. Moo moo moo.

Commonsense said...

Today, the Public Interest Legal Foundation released documented proof that in just 138 of Virginia’s counties and cities, voting officials quietly removed 5,556 voters from the rolls for being non-citizens in recent years and that a third of them had cast ballots. Virginia’s sloppy procedures are duplicated in many other states, making a national investigation imperative.

Nothing to see here move on.

KD, Welfare Alky, funny gal said...

Bernie Sanders a known criminal for violating US Banking Laws is having trouble with math, much like Welfare Alky and Jane.


"32 million Americans will loss Health Coverage currently covered by ObamaCare if Republicans repeal"

Really, how is that going to happen?

under the over priced and under delivered Obama care, how many US Citizens are currently covered?

KD, Welfare ALky bilking US Tax Payers Daily said...

Welfare Alky, your source is not the media, yet it is, in your own words unreliable.

What is it with Jane posting about his interest in pediphilia and you and your buddy Opium are into sex with farm animals, wierdo's.

Roger Amick said...

Something that may come out of this debate on Obamacare versus TrumpCare versus whatever is we may see something nobody really expected to see before. Both Republicans and Democrats agree that we need to have government involvement in healthcare system. Something has to be done. The argument the government should stay completely out of healthcare is no longer in effect.

The only way to get the risk pool large enough to keep the cost to individuals to a reasonable level is a single-payer system. This is simple fact is the larger pool the lower the overall cost to individuals.


The United States has been innovative in many different ways I would think that they should be able to figure out a way to do this without creating this great big government bureaucracy no one can control the cost.

Commonsense said...

You know under a single payer system you would have never gotten your new liver?

It would have been your "duty" to die.

caliphate4vr said...

He's an idiot UHC has more members than countries have citizens

Commonsense said...

There's seems to be momentum growing for just repealing Obamacare without a replacement package.

Trump is signing on to that option also.

Roger Amick said...

My name is Roger not Alky. As of yesterday it was one month since I underwent a liver transplant. The 12 hour procedure demanded 47 units of blood. On Thursday I will be released from medical care. One month and four days after the more invasive surgeries we do. I have three hours of workouts in the gym today. Tuesday and Wednesday there will be approximately the same. On Thursday I will be transported to UCLA for the final check up. Many concerns they have to handled, as much you have a liver transplant medication the things you exposed to what you can eat when you cannot eat all very complex things.

For the next 4 to 8 weeks I will be returning to UCLA on every Thursday for checkups on what's going on. The doctors and therapists in another's transplant patients rarely seen someone come along as quickly as I have. I spoke with a guy who had surgery 14 years ago . He said life is normal once you have fully recovered.

By November 1 I should be back to normal, except for the need to take the medications. I will have to take the anti-rejection drugs rest of my life.

This is what drive you guys crazy. I am on the Kaiser Permanente Medicare senior advantage program. My total out-of-pocket expenses are $4,400 per year. And one last point my medical condition was not caused by my abuse of alcohol it is inherited condition. I have been sober for five years one month and seven days. One day at a time.

KD, Welfare Alky said...

The total bill was $162,000. I would have been bankrupt " HB

That was for the first of your many medical problems brought on by your alcoholism.

How much was the new liver? $ 250,000 dollars, so who paid for that, we know it was not you.



Did you see that Obama's Home State is going to have their bond rating dropped to "Junk" because they over promised retirees and other welfare payments. It is always the same old tired story with liberals, promise to buy votes then tax the living hell out of the workers that earn money .

Kd, Welfare Alky what a nancy boy said...

Alky, I really don't care at all about your booze induced liver and other medical problems.

What I care about is how you think your paying your way, you simply are not, and neither is that mail order bride of yours.

Your in denial about so much.

Commonsense said...

This is what drive you guys crazy. I am on the Kaiser Permanente Medicare senior advantage program.

Na, what's driving us crazy is you bragging about being on a private health insurance plan and then advocating the destruction of those very same plans with single payer health care.

Do you really listen to yourself?

caliphate4vr said...

Better Health Care for Less Money? It's Not Easy

Decreeing the government is a better arbiter doesn't make it so,you sot

Commonsense said...

One of the other points of the article is that placing healthcare under government control doesn't necessarily curb cost.

As a government we are already spending more per capita than Great Britain to cover only a portion of the population.

caliphate4vr said...

Exactly yet carpenters that closets in hospitals think they know better

rrb said...

Na, what's driving us crazy is you bragging about being on a private health insurance plan and then advocating the destruction of those very same plans with single payer health care.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


and the ultimate irony is that rather than giving him a new liver he would've been sent home to die.


rrb said...



the best news i've heard yet today -


Former President Obama is involved in discussions about the future of the Democratic Party, sources close to the former president tell The Hill.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/340314-obama-plays-behind-the-scenes-role-in-rebuilding-democratic-party


KD, said...

the best news i've heard yet today - " Rat

I agree 100 %, the more they listen to the grand mother and the minority racist Obimbo and other woman Like Bernie Bank Fraud Standers and Chuckless Schmer the longer they will keep losing .

KD said...

Roger Amick said...
According to One Source I have this information. I cannot verify its truthfulness"

Is it unfair to continue to quote verbatim Alky and point out he has no brain?


Is that ONE source the same source that told Senator Ried that Mitt Romney failed to pay taxes, and yet when Ried was asked who was the source he shrank and ran like all liberals do when face down by real men.

KD, News got better said...

"Justice Kennedy Tells Clerkship Applicants He's Considering Retirement... " huffpo


Well, while the #resistGrannyClintonfoundation is busy running down rabbit hole dug by Trump to distract the weak minded left, the real world is about to bite the left again.

Trump has a list of full qualified conservatives ready to be nominated to fill this opening ,,,,, and little liberals can just stop their little pink feet.

Commonsense said...

California Democrats To Far-Left Single Payer Advocates: Stop Bullying And Threatening Us!

The letter reads in part, “we have become alarmed and disheartened by bullying tactics, threats of violence, and death threats by a few who disagree with the decision of Speaker Anthony Rendon to postpone the advancement of SB 562. These are tactics that we all abhor. Let us not become the persons that we detest.”

I think that horse has left the barn.

KD, CA is nearning finacial collapes said...

Liberal on Liberal Crime, a thing of beauty .

Thanks CS.

My Royals are on fire.

Commonsense said...

I hate your Royals. They seem to have my Rays number.

opie said...

I think that horse has left the barn.

Too bad trump didn't!!!!!

opie said...

caliphate4vr said...
Exactly yet carpenters that closets in hospitals think they know better


Drinking a bit early aren't we Paulie......LOL Dayum amusing.

opie said...



Anonymous KD, Welfare Alky said...
That was for the first of your many medical problems brought on by your alcoholism.

God you are a flaming asshole. Thank goodness trump is one of the few who has you beat!!! Must be great to have a Leo degree.....LOLOLOL

Commonsense said...

Opie if you're going to blather just to be heard at least try and come up with something interesting.

Loretta said...

"Former President Obama is involved in discussions about the future of the Democratic Party, sources close to the former president tell The Hill."

LOL.

opie said...

Stupid for even here......!!!!!


Another day, another GOP congressman is in trouble with his constituents after insinuating that women can get birth control at grocery stores. The comment, made at a town hall, comes from Representative Glenn Grothman who has previously made inflammatory statements.

Grothman, who represents Wisconsin's sixth congressional district, held a town hall in Neenah, WI, on April 30. During the meeting, a constituent calmly explained to him that her daughter receives care at Planned Parenthood because her employer doesn't offer medical benefits. So she asks him, "Help me understand why you want to defund planned parenthood and please do not use abortion as an excuse."

But PPH might have given money to D's and threefore do not need any funding....Idiots..

opie said...

Commonsense said...
Opie if you're going to blather

Loretta said...

LOL.

Whatever you say, maroon......

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

Commonsense said...

Another day, another GOP congressman is in trouble with his constituents after insinuating that women can get birth control at grocery stores.

The local Publix here has a pharmacy and yes you can buy birth control.

KD, Hillary loans Bernie a few Lawyers said...

Bank Fraud Bernie has not one lawyer, but two, why does he need even one, he did nothing wrong, he is being a little sissy, blaming the bank fraud on his wife.

opie said...

The local Publix here has a pharmacy and yes you can buy birth control.

How many publix pharmacies are there in Wisconsin. Nice try, the congressman said grocery store PERIOD!.
I bet you are one of the WWE's biggest fans. funny, menstral.

Loretta said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty


And sadly, menstral accuses me of blather while tolerating the injuns idiocy. Too funny

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

opie said...




https://www.popsugar.com/news/Republican-Glenn-Grothman-Comments-About-Planned-Parenthood-43526018

Check the video menstral.....the man is an idiot, just like you....

opie said...

Loretta said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

The injun blather continues in spite of minstrals lamentations. Just like trump....too old to learn!!!!!

Loretta said...

"and the ultimate irony is that rather than giving him a new liver he would've been sent home to die."

His age versus the diagnosis is the criteria under single payer.

With his age, diagnosis and history of alcoholism they wouldn't have given him a second look.

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

opie said...

Loretta said...

more blather by the squaw.....especially one who knows all about drinking.....

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

James said...

Fatty.
Chtruth discourages insults.

James said...

And by the way, squaw is neutral. Especially for one who used to call herself Savage(etta).

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling, but at least he's not spamming about pedophilia.

Commonsense said...

How many publix pharmacies are there in Wisconsin. Nice try, the congressman said grocery store PERIOD!.

Well I'm pretty sure Wisconsin has grocery stores and that these grocery stores have pharmacy sections that sell birth control products.

It's pretty darn common.

wphamilton said...

States rightfully withhold everything but the publicly available data of the voter rolls. Nothing good can come from including personally identifiable information, which in many states would be illegal to begin with.

Including the state of the commission Republican co-chair, which is denying the request and only providing the public information.

Commonsense said...

And by the way, squaw is neutral. Especially for one who used to call herself Savage(etta).

I'm guessing that if Donald Trump call Elizabeth Warren a squaw you wouldn't find the term so neutral. Even though Warren claims Cherokee heritage.

You moral hypocrisy is somewhat amusing.

Commonsense said...

States rightfully withhold everything but the publicly available data of the voter rolls. Nothing good can come from including personally identifiable information, which in many states would be illegal to begin with.

States and localities regularly sell cross checking information (Name, date of birth, last four digits of the social security number) to political parties and campaigns so these campaigns can match them with census and other marketing data.

How do you think they micro-target their messages?

Loretta said...

"Well I'm pretty sure Wisconsin has grocery stores and that these grocery stores have pharmacy sections that sell birth control products."

He obviously doesn't get out much.

opie said...

Well I'm pretty sure Wisconsin has grocery stores and that these grocery stores have pharmacy sections that sell birth control products.

Said the idiot from floriduh seconded by the blatherer from kansas who is never rebuked by the hypocrite cultist. Again, you just make shit up. I am pretty sure you don't know for certain what is available in Wisconsin, which is always the case and you also did not watch the video of the Wi rep who made you and him both look like consummate fools again. You lose again Mr .2%...go troll a gay bar. LOL

opie said...

States and localities regularly sell cross checking information (Name, date of birth, last four digits of the social security number)

Another menstral lie. Nice try. idiot.

Commonsense said...

You obviously never worked in a campaign.

Why not try something other pulling crap out of your ass.

Commonsense said...

Notice when Opie is wrong he starts insulting and name-calling.

James???? James???? James????

opie said...

Commonsense said...
Notice when Opie is wrong he starts insulting and name-calling.

Stop lying menstral child.


You once again accept what the squaw posts and breaks my chops. How hypocritical of you and so typical of low IQ voters like yourself....., idiot..

Loretta said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

opie said...

You obviously never worked in a campaign.

And you did, probably took out the trash!!!!

Why not try something other pulling crap out of your ass.

IOW's you made it up like I thought. LOLOLOL

KD said...

Notice when Opie is wrong he starts insulting and name-calling. "

Yep, he is wrong a lot.


US winning with Trump , Manufacturing is hot and winning .

opie said...

KD said...
Notice when Opie is wrong he starts insulting and name-calling. "

Yep, he is wrong a lot.

And the only time our loser LEO arrives is to opine on others words. Not much intellect there.... LOLOLOL

Police never join unions. Idiot.

caliphate4vr said...

Notice when Opie is wrong he starts insulting and name-calling.

Think about it, the fast bastid was bragging earlier this week that he was going to chattafuckinooga. If that was the highlight of my week and what I thought worth bragging on, I'd be chambering a round

Commonsense said...

And you did, probably took out the trash!!!!

Actually I worked on, wait for it, computer programming to create targeted mailing list from voting history.

Ahem

KD, Carbon Eating oDopie said...

Opie likes to travel, he owns two homes, and he is living a lie, like all liberals, he talks about the planet and then Rapes mother Earth every chance he gets.

it is sad.


CA is so worried about the illegals leaving that state that they are going to spend $250,000 in ads to assure the illegals that welfare is their for them, no matter what, CA Moonbeam is going to find the money (only one way, tax the workers that earn it) .

I do love a good plan, so go for it, become that maggot magnet.

Commonsense said...

Think about it, the fast bastid was bragging earlier this week that he was going to chattafuckinooga.

OK after touring Lookout mountain and Ruby falls what else is there?

I remember it being a pit stop on the way to Ohio.

opie said...

, computer programming to create targeted mailing list from voting history.

And what language did you use? Pig latin?????? I'm sure you did, menstral.

KD said...

Actually I worked on, wait for it, computer programming to create targeted mailing list from voting history."

Too bad Hillary did not get you to work for her, the DNC computers and data was an unholy mess, that is why she said she lost, that and 50 other shades of grey, not one of the reasons she lost was her.

opie said...

califat head posted

Think about it, the fast basted was bragging e

fast bastard? BWAAAAAA!!!!!!! Still drinking, loser?????


The aquarium is first rate, river walk is a great gathering place...river cruise....seems to me fat head being drunk and dumb is his way of life. Idiots.....

Commonsense said...

And what language did you use?

RPG and the IBM sort utility language. This was years ago.

No, I don't think you can program computers with pig latin outside the confines of FDU.

opie said...

Opie likes to travel, he owns two homes,

Yep and proud of it while you earn your meager living from astrology.....LOLOLOL

Caliphate4vr said...

OK after touring Lookout mountain and Ruby falls what else is there?

And rock city is GA. But hell I'd do anything to delay a trip to Ohio

lol

opie said...

RPG and the IBM sort utility language

IOW's, you programmed nothing but menu sorts......LOLOLOL

caliphate4vr said...

Sure fatty channel catfish and alligator gar are first rate.

You're a fucking moron, but I guess anything is better than putt putt and the early bird special at Golden Corral

LMAO

Commonsense said...

Too bad Hillary did not get you to work for her, the DNC computers and data was an unholy mess, that is why she said she lost, that and 50 other shades of grey, not one of the reasons she lost was her.

There problem was using and interpreting the data as well as not having a message to begin with.

When you don't have a message to begin with no amount of data analysis will win you an election.

It always comes down to the candidate and Hillary just wasn't likable. It's the old story about the dog food.

Commonsense said...

And rock city is GA. But hell I'd do anything to delay a trip to Ohio

We had relatives there. Otherwise...

Commonsense said...

IOW's, you programmed nothing but menu sorts.

Somewhat more sophisticated. But I don't expect anybody who has taken no more than an introductory course in FORTRAN to understand.

Roger Amick said...

K'putz lies again. My covered with Kaiser Permanente is under Medicare. It is not a private insurance beyond that.

Second for the Mensa boy. A single-payer system would not stop me from getting a liver transplant. Is single-payer based on basically the expansion of Medicare with other changes would work would cover everything I got right now and everything I had in the past. The main reason I support in the single-payer as it makes the insured pool as large as possible. That makes the cost per person much more reasonable and is broken up system we have now. When the risk is spread out over at the entire population the per person cost go down. Some of the single-payer systems are not working very well more expensive. Sometime people have to travel outside the country to get coverage that is true. But I'm saying the United States is very capable of making a single-payer system that would work. If they took off the donkey hats and the Elephant ass and get to work they might be able to figure something out we have been able to do that in the past in the last 20 years the doors are closed to compromise for many different reasons I'm not going to say why both sides are guilty. But we have to insist they have to fix the system and make it actually work. Trumpcare is not a repair it's a disaster it will lay 22 million more people uninsured than they were before. We can do better than that we can cover everyone I mean everyone that legally here as a citizen I don't have a problem with that no problem. I don't want the system open to anybody that can come from all over the world and and get the reduced cost no they have to pay the actual their cost not that because they don't pay taxes on it.

As a final f*** you Kansas. I meant my wife in this country and is not a mail order bride she is it came to the United States in 1970 on her own and got her bachelor in nursing in 4 years even though she's not speak English when she came to the country. She was highly intelligent at least 50 IQ points a bit ahead of you without a problem. You trying to say she's a mail order bride to her she kick your ass you worthless piece of s***

Roger Amick said...

You can't read. The Senior Advantage is under Medicare. Medicare pays the vast majority of the bills. My maximum co-pay to Kaiser like I said is $4,400 per year. Medicare covers the additional costs. IPad Medicare every month every week I should say my working career. Did I pay in as much as it's going to cost this know that's part called a risk pool. Many people have no cost at all or small place and covered. But in my case because of an inherited condition as costing a lot more money than I put into it that's the way the system works no matter what way it works. You're supposed to be smart you claim to be mr. GED but look at what you talking about you don't seem to really have a comprehensive understanding of how Medicare or any other single-payer system would work.

Roger Amick said...

On topic. As of last night 41 States had refused to turn over there voting logs over to the Trump dictatorship. If Barack Obama had done the same thing you people would have been screaming screaming screaming loudly rigging he's going to steal the election for Hillary. But no you think it's okay I don't. The states are responsible for managing their own elections you know that he read the Constitution give it a chance.

Commonsense said...

Second for the Mensa boy. A single-payer system would not stop me from getting a liver transplant.

Tell that to the people of Great Britain. Under their rules, you wouldn't even be on the transplant list.

It wouldn't be an expansion of medicare, it would a complete government takeover of healthcare.

Medicare as it is is inadequate for most people. That's why plans like Kaiser Permanente exist. They will disappear under single payer as well as your chance to get a new liver.

opie said...

Somewhat more sophisticated.

LOL Sure menstral. You said you programed, pulling down menus is and hitting enter is not programming. would not expect anything else from a lazy GED. A glorified clerk is all you were!!! LOLOLOL

Commonsense said...

As I said you haven't a clue and I'm not about to waste my time trying to explain it to the willfully stupid.

Try trolling somebody else today.

opie said...

Commonsense said...
As I said you haven't a clue

Okay, glorified clerk. Yer a programmer of great skill in your own mind. Maybe loretta will believe your lie, but your BS don't fly with me. LOLOLOL!!!

opie said...

BTW, menstral, we trained entry level kids to do what you call programming in about 6 weeks. LOLOLOL

Loretta said...

"Try trolling somebody else today."

He's a goofy bastid, LOL.

opie said...

Loretta said...
"Try trolling somebody else today."

He's a goofy basted, LOL.

Once again our idiot injun squaw in chief chimes in with utter blather. Do us all a favor, go do what you do best and cook your marine some breakfast. And please follow menstrals advice, go troll a rathole......

BTW, loretta per pauline, it is fast bastard. LOLOLOL

Loretta said...

He has a cabin.

wphamilton said...

CS voter information that is public, generally speaking is name and address, age (not necessarily the full date of birth), some indication of activity. The parties themselves maintain party affiliation data which may be more detailed, and use the public data as well of course.

I believe you are mistaken that States provide the SSN or any part of the SSN. Maybe 20-30 years ago.

In states with closed primaries there may be information on which party the person is registered. In GA there is a notation if you requested a party-specific ballot, no more than that. You can get it on a CD for $250 if you want, and that's what Trump's commission is getting.

There is one civil fact that people seem to be overlooking in this: each State has the absolute right to conduct the elections in ANY manner as the State sees fit. A federal commission has, literally, no authority over it and their requests are exactly as a private citizen. The only leverage the feds have is if there is a Constitutional violation such as equal protection. A state does NOT need to justify its decision, but a Federal Commission absolutely does need to justify a request for anything beyond the publicly available information. This request is just another example of incompetence and ignorance, that seems to exemplify everything Trump's administration touches.

opie said...

Blogger Loretta said...
He has a cabin.

And you and pauline don't.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

opie said...

This request is just another example of incompetence and ignorance, that seems to exemplify everything Trump's administration touches.

Just like the sycophants here......heavy on the ignorance of our so called programmer in his own mind.

good old gentle fair minded James said...


41 States Refuse Request for Voter Information

July 4
“Forty-one states have refused the Trump administration’s request for certain voter information,” according to a CNN inquiry to all 50 states.

“State leaders and voting boards across the country have responded to the letter with varying degrees of cooperation — from altogether rejecting the request to expressing eagerness to supply information that is public.”


So far, just three states — Colorado, Missouri and Tennessee — have shown a willingness to work with the commission.
Meanwhile, the Baltimore Sun reports the “election integrity” panel saw its first resignation: Maryland’s deputy secretary of state Luis Borunda (R).
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I am so happy to see on this glorious FOURTH that so many of our leaders are willing to resist the fascist tendencies of Benito Trump which sell outs like Ch find totally acceptable.

Commonsense said...

CS voter information that is public, generally speaking is name and address, age (not necessarily the full date of birth), some indication of activity. The parties themselves maintain party affiliation data which may be more detailed, and use the public data as well of course.

I've actually work with voter data, full date of birth, party registration and election history, (the fact you voted in and election not how you vote) were part of the packet.

In my day you also got the full social security number, not just the last four digits. (It wasn't as sensitive back then as it is now).

I've actually worked with voter registration data so I think I will trust my own eyes rather than what you tell me.

good old gentle democracy minded James said...

Maybe you should trust what more than 41 states are telling you.

Commonsense said...

Maybe you should find out what those 41 states are selling to political campaigns and other entities.

good old gentle democracy minded James said...

If the states are that corrupt, we definitely need federal oversight.

Commonsense said...

You're implying it's against the law it is not.

In fact you voter registrations is public and can be surrendered upon demand by a media outlet or anyone else for that matter.

You have a ridiculous vision of how things ought to be instead of what it really is.

good old gentle democracy minded James said...

What is the "ridiculous version" of those more than 41 resistant states?

Commonsense said...

Well for one thing I find it amusing that you are for federal control of elections but you're against the states giving voter information to the Feds.

Or is it just one particular fed you're worried about.

James said...

Not control. Oversight to keep them honest. Rules they must go by that any democracy loving person would affirm.

Commonsense said...

Not control. Oversight to keep them honest.

It's going to be fun watching you explain the diffrence between oversight and control.

Starting with this: If each state has it's own election rules which rules would you go by?

Also how are you planning to get around the fact the constitution specifically charges states with running elections and gives the federal government no role in running them?

wphamilton said...

30 years ago you might have seen more detailed personal information made public in voter registration, but today it's how I described it to you. It varies from state to state, but there is NO state that will provide SSN, DOB name and address. There is no legitimate reason for Trump's commission to have that data with association with a person's affiliation. That they even asked for it betrays the effort as amateurish. No experience, no idea how to conduct the project.

Sad to say, but that appears to be the norm with this administration.

Commonsense said...

I agree no state would provide the full SSN now. I've said as much.

Did you know that when I attended UF they actually posted final exam grades on a bulletin board by social security number?

They certainly would provide name, address and DOB and other basic demographics as gender and party affiliation. Otherwise, it would be useless to campaigns.

The Trump administration is looking for patterns of fraud. For example if a voter died in 2015 it seems rather strange he voted in the 2016 election.

Also, only citizens may vote and there is quite a bit of evidence immigrants registered illegally and voted.

That's something worth knowing.

good old gentle democracy minded James said...

Commonsense always thinks he can get the best last word even when he can't. Example:

Common said: "Also how are you planning to get around the fact the constitution specifically charges states with running elections and gives the federal government no role in running them?"

James says: Last time I looked the Supreme Court was part of the federal government, and it will not allow states to discriminate against black voters, just for one example.

Contrary to what you say, the constitution specifically charges states with running elections ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION.

Big difference. Important difference.

opie said...

Also, only citizens may vote and there is quite a bit of evidence immigrants registered illegally and voted.

And maybe you can link us up where this evidence is since the data I have looked at, in person voter fraud is about as prevalent as your college degree....LOLOLOL

Commonsense said...

And maybe you can link us up where this evidence

As soon as you link up the evidence of Russian collusion.

Commonsense said...

James says: Last time I looked the Supreme Court was part of the federal government, and it will not allow states to discriminate against black voters, just for one example.

That only an example of them enforcing the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments.

It has nothing to do with actually running the elections themselves, just that the states can't discriminate because of race.

If you notice any federal interference in the way the state runs an election is specifically spelled out in the constitution (For example the requirements to select presidential electors on the same date as set by congress) or via amendments (Women's suffrage and reducing the voting age to 18).

However outside those requirements spelled out in the constitution, the state may run election as they see fit. For example; states don't even have to run a popular election to select presidential electors, the state legislature may choose them directly as they did for the first 70 years of the country's existent.

The is no mechanism or authority in the constitution for the federal government to run an election for president all the way down to dog catcher. That is left to the states and counties in those states.

Commonsense said...

So James after you read all of that can you please show us part of the Constitution that says "the federal government shall have the power to run elections for the United States and to certify said results."

You're on the clock.