A new poll was released today by Opinion Savvy that was taken entirely after the scandal broke. Of those participating only 9% said they had not heard about the allegations against Roy Moore. Of course, had they not heard up to that point, they were certainly informed that those allegations existed during the questioning.
The results showed:
Moore - 46.4%
Jones - 46.0%
The previous survey from this pollster showed Moore ahead 50-45 meaning that the support for Moore dropped between 3-4% while the support for Jones went up only 1%. This isn't too far off from what I figured we would see. Obviously any traditional October surprise shows a bigger "initial" impact than a long term one... which is why these scandals generally pop up in the last two or three weeks. Enough time so everyone hears about it, but not enough time for people to forget about it.
One thing to consider is that two other polls taken around the same time as the first 50-45 Opinion Savvy poll was taken showed Moore up 22% and 8% - meaning the Opinion Savvy poll was more favorable to Jones at that time than others.
I would expect (assuming no other shoes drop on Moore between now and then) that the allegations are "recoverable" for him. It may not be the cakewalk he once expected, and of course he could still lose (funny things happen in special elections)... but based on what this poll is showing, Moore probably remains a slight favorite.
202 comments:
1 – 200 of 202 Newer› Newest»McCain and Ronmey both said that the candidate should withdraw.
that's nice alky.
both CH and I say you should answer CH's question.
Post his loaded question again here. I was otherwise engaged to put any thought into the bs question. But it looked like it was written to make a yes or no response leaves the person answering the question is an ass;hole.
Apples and oranges. It goes beyond your ability to understand that.
Roger is a very shallow fellow, and economical retard and a financial mooch on his wife.
The question is simple Roger:
Is a sitting President making false statements to a federal investigator and coercing witnesses to give false testimony an impeachable offense?
That is not a trick question, an apples to oranges question, or any sort of question that allows "conditions" or "hypocrisy".
Roger, you are an asshole, CHT does not have to put up a question to get you there, you did that on your own during the BUSH Soars years.
Is a sitting President making false statements to a federal investigator and coercing witnesses to give false testimony an impeachable offense? " CHT
Here HB let me show you how it is done.
Answer ,,, YES
Either a sitting
1: President making false statements to a federal investigator.
2:If a President is guilty of coercing witnesses to give false testimony is an impeachable act or it's not.
1: If he or she has been guilty of coercing someone to make a false statement, and there is irrefutable evidence would be impeachable if it was related to his duty as President,yes.
2: If it was done on a non government issue, I would say no. A lawyer would lose his license to practice law. No
If this apples, again, if it was related to his duty as President, yes.
If a candidate of either party, is guilty of extra marital affairs, the judgement is up to the voter. JFK had multiple affairs, but the media did not cover it, for one reason, most of the journalists were invited to the swimming pool in the White House. The men thought with their dicks, nothing unusual there. LOL
But if minors are involved, they are disqualified and if possible, prosecuted for the crime.
I answered yur question, and I have to clean up the patio for a bbq ribs party tomorrow. I make world class bbq baby back ribs.
I have chips and a Weber grill and use charcoal and slow cook for 4 hours. I will bake my own apple pie too.From scratch. You would be drooling. LOL
"IF" HB only had a brain.
What exactly is the physical evidence against Moore?
Lewinski wasn't coerced into giving her false statement. That was Starr's conclusion.
Please let him win and go to DC to help put the final nail in trumps fat ass......
But remember,, the Constitution defines impeachable is"High cries and misdemeanors."
The House of Representatives makes that call.
Mike Lee (R) Utah
But remember,, the Constitution defines impeachable is"High crimes and misdemeanors."
The House of Representatives makes that call.
Idiot :cries:
Roger - you still didn't really answer the question, other than to give a "conditional answer" which under the law would be irrelevant. It's a felony to give false statements to a federal investigator, regardless of the subject matter.
But let's consider your "conditional answer".
In the case of Bill Clinton. While President, he had a sexual relationship with a White House intern, and then made calls and requests to prospective employers on this intern's behalf. While this behavior is not technically "illegal" it's considered unethical, an abuse of power, and it fit the pattern alleged in the lawsuit of Paula Jones (who claimed that as Governor, Bill Clinton promised jobs and promotions to women who performed sexual favors for him).
Had Bill Clinton had sex with an employee, and then attempted to help that person with job advancement in the private or public sector, he would have been in violation of every HR code of conduct in existence, and would have likely been fired (or asked to step down).
So... based on your "condition" - what Clinton was being asked about (and what he provided false statements to the Starr probe regarding) was specifically about actions he did while President, that were unethical, abusive, and certainly politically damaging.
To be VERY CLEAR about this point. If Lewinski had been some random woman not employed at the White House, who had not benefited from the President helping her employment situation... then there quite literally would have been no reason for Janet Reno to allow the situation to be investigated, and no reason for Starr to probe the situation.
Federal investigators don't investigate "blow jobs" - as much as the Clintons put that notion in your head.
So Bill Clinton "DID" provide false statements to a federal prosecutor (a felony) about actions he committed that were relevant to his job as President. Furthermore the Starr probe concluded that the President used White House Council in an attempt to garner a false affidavit from a White House intern, over the before-mentioned actions that took place between the President and the intern.
So the Clinton situation clearly fits your "conditions" here...
Tell me again, why there wasn't a case?
Republicans Tax reform Fails.
CH. If the President asked the FIB director to (take it easy) on his director of national security, is it objecting justice? If so, is it impeachable?
Duck and cover by CH.
Later but I answered the questions, but my reply exposed you as dishonest.
Later but I answered the questions, your 309 words don't show me as dishonest .
Roy Moore Response Shows GOP Deserves to Die
Max Boot: “This episode is the sorry culmination of two trends that have disfigured the conservative movement beyond all recognition:
contempt for the facts
and
desire to win at all costs.
"Republicans are increasingly reliant on ‘alternative facts’ manufactured by the likes of Fox News and Breitbart, which claim that global warming isn’t real and neither is the Russian hack of the Democratic National Committee. The real scandal, they tell us, is the Steele dossier paid for by the Democrats in an attempt to uncover Trump’s Russian connections. Or is it the evidence-free claim that Obama supposedly wiretapped Trump?
“In the final analysis, no indictment of their candidate will convince the faithful. As Trump once said, ‘I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters’ Or, more to the point, Roy Moore could molest a 14-year-old girl and not lose votes.
"Because for Republican partisans, their opponents are ‘the forces of evil,’ and anything is preferable to that. Even Donald Trump. Even Roy Moore. So in ostensibly fighting evil, Republicans have become complicit in it.
“This is a party that does not deserve to survive.”
Young Voters Propelled Northam to Victory
Andrew Sullivan: “The under-30s turnout in the Virginia governor’s race in 2009 was 17 percent; in 2013, it was 24 percent; this week it was 34 percent. And as young turnout surged, it became progressively more Democratic. In 2013, the under-30s split 45–40 percent for the Democrats; in 2016, in the presidential race, it was 54–36; last week it was 69–30. The third-party vote among the young also collapsed: from 15 percent in 2013 to one percent last Tuesday.
“I draw a couple of inferences from this: Trump’s extraordinary success among older voters in 2016 has produced a backlash among younger voters in 2017, who are far less complacent than they were last year and ever-more repulsed by Trump’s racist reactionism. And the younger generation has learned one thing from 2016: Voting for your ideal candidate is less important than voting for the candidate that can effectively halt the advance of the far right. Better late than never, I suppose — and Charlottesville may have helped concentrate their minds.”
More fucking political_lire spam from the "pastor" who said he was going to follow board rules and stop.
A complete repulsive ASSHOLE
With shit for brains
ROFLMFAO !!!
Don't forget to wipe when you are done thinking....
ROFLMFAO !!!
CH. If the President asked the FIB director to (take it easy) on his director of national security, is it objecting justice?
Not according to Alan Dershowitz, Andrew McCarthy, and most every other objective legal analyst. According to the constitution, the Director of the FBI works for the President.
Let me ask you this... Ken Starr stated (for the record) that if Clinton was not President that he would have indicted him for the crimes of making false statements, witness tampering, and obstruction. That was the official result of his investigation. He didn't because he felt it was up to congress to impeach him (which they did).
If Mueller came back with a similar recommendation against Trump... that he without a doubt provided false statements, witness tampering, and obstruction and that it was indictable... would you provide the same answer you did about Clinton?
Would you argue there was no case...
My personal opinion explained.
The President of the United States has the power to pardon anyone. Since he can already pardon his "director of national security" (although I believe you meant National Security adviser Flynn) if he so chooses, doing far less than he has the authority to do is not "obstruction".
Nope, next.
Hb is a great Lawyer, the best ever. Just ask that asshole.
You never tire of explaining so much to deep thinker Roger the queen of CA. BARBIE Q.
Oh oh, the lady that accused Moore is a never Trumper and has cleaned her Facebook page of anti Republican rantings, but why?
She also was a paid staffer for Joe Biden. , yep, political hack.
Got to give it to the filthy Democraps
OMG, Gibson is a "25th amendement NOW", nut job.
I believe the pastor was expecting that if he stopped spamming, obscenities and charges of pedophilia against him would diminish. That did not happen, so he has apparently returned to spamming.
Blogger KD the idiot said...
Oh oh, the lady that accused Moore is a never Trumper
She is sure smarter than you and your family, goat molester.....Seems you big mouths have nothing to do but try to save your party from a pedophile...nice...sure says a lot about your moral compass, that points straight to hell.....lOLOLOL
You are either stupid or blind, I will say it one more time for you idiot.
He should have already dropped out.
It's more and more looking like a hit job from the Post.
BUSTED: WaPo Failed To Disclose Roy Moore Accuser Worked As Sign Language Interpreter For Hillary & Biden — Openly Supports Doug Jones
There are also stories that the Post actively solicited these stories. Still unanswered is how the post managed for find these accusers. I'm pretty sure it was through Democrat activist pointing them out than any intrepid investigation.
When getting your asses kicked, blame it on the press and the victim...so republican of you menstral....and amusing....Yes they chased leads, does that make the reporting any less true???? BTW....you supporting a child molester is typical of your hate of women, gays and science....politics instead of morals.....yep, that's my menstra!!!!! Yes. ,moore is an honorable creep and liar....
WAPO ,,, well they could have dragged a $100 bill thru a trailer court.
I have chips and a Weber grill and use charcoal
Piker
KD the asshole posted.....
He should have already dropped out.
Then stop posting things that support him and diss her.. idiot....Wanna try again, menstral needs help...try CAPS !!!!
Blogger KD said...
She also was a paid staffer for Joe Biden. , yep, political hack.
Got to give it to the filthy Democraps
Opie, what actual physical evidence do you have?
KD said...
WAPO ,,, well they could have dragged a $100 bill thru a trailer court.
That's how you found your wife!!!!!
Unlike you , the posting of facts are not choosing a side, what an dumbass you are, dumber then Jane .
In CH's damaged mind...this behavior was brought on because a women brought out accusations in a politically charged time...I remember how you all wanted to have dignity in the WH and now you have a womanizer as POTUS and a pedophile running for senate...Yeah , that's the ticket !!!!
U.S.
Roy Moore's Accuser's Photo and Workplace Were Spread Online by a Far-Right Conspiracist
Newsweek Michael Edison Hayden,Newsweek 16 hours ago
854463942
In a bizarre defense of Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore, who was accused of sexual activity with a 14-year-old girl, a right-wing conspiracy theorist and media star told his followers to stalk the victim at her workplace on Friday.
Jack Posobiec, a Trump supporter with a large online following, posted a recent Facebook photo of Leigh Corfman, the woman who told The Washington Post that the then-32-year-old Moore tried to bed her in 1979, and told his Twitter followers to target Corfman at her last known place of employment.
KD the goat fucker alleges....
Unlike you , the posting of facts are not choosing a side,
You would not know a fact if it was shoved up your ass.....LOL Your side is Republican and all your posts show that bias. So either STFU or learn what you just posted.....
OH DEAR! One of the four women accusing Moore of sexual misconduct worked for the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Sounds like she was telling the absolute truth, however:
_______________
Roy Moore accuser worked for Clinton campaign as interpreter, reports say
One of the women accusing Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual impropriety reportedly worked as a sign language interpreter for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, a new report claims.
Deborah Wesson Gibson, who told The Washington Post that she briefly dated Moore when she was 17 and he was 34, founded the language interpreting company, Signs of Excellence, and has worked for a number of democratic campaigns, according to Alabama Local News.
The company’s Facebook page shows Gibson working for and posing with several democratic candidates at political rallies including 2016 presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, former Vice President Joe Biden, former Sen. Patrick Murphy, D-Fla., and Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.
In the expose published by The Washington Post, Gibson said she first met Moore in 1981 when he spoke to her high school civics class. He reportedly asked her out and the pair went on to date for a few months.
She recalled her mother saying she was “the luckiest girl in the world” that Moore wanted to date her, noting that he “had this godlike, almost deity status” in Gadsen, Ala.,
Gibson alleged that she and Moore only kissed twice and
said in retrospect, she’s “glad nothing bad happened.”
“As a mother of daughters, I realize that our age difference at that time made our dating inappropriate,” Gibson told The Washington Post.
Three other women in the report also accused Moore of sexually inappropriate behavior when they were teenagers, including one woman who alleges she was 14 at the time.
Moore’s campaign labeled the allegations “baseless” and “the very definition of fake news.”
I am amused at being accused of supporting a "child molester" by Dennis who supports the rapist and alleged child molester Bill Clinton without question.
I must have missed something, Commensa.
Please name Bill Clinton's child accuser.
"one woman who alleges she was 14 at the time"
Just the age James likes, post pubescent.
Now, I find older than that attractive.
But again, give us her name.
Not an accuser of Epstein, but of Clinton.
October 23, 2017 James Boswell:
"Oh, and I do indeed think teenage girls, post pubescent ones that is, can be sexy. I have always thought so."
https://coldheartedtruthblog.blogspot.com/2017/10/trump-phone-call-to-widow-recorded.html?showComment=1508608752714&m=1#c1852015223026817867
Not an accuser of Epstein, but of Clinton.
It is well known that Clinton rode Epstein's private plane and stayed at his private sex island.
You connect the dots.
"I am amused at being accused of supporting a "child molester"
I'm amused that Boswell has the nerve to cast stones...
We're beginning to learn more about Moore's accusers. One for example, is a pro-trump impeachment anti-moore liberal activist who has worked for joe biden.
According to the President, the Mueller investigation isn't necessary because Vladimir Putin did not meddle in the election.
President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin met on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit (APEC) in Vietnam Saturday, according to the White House.
During the brief meeting, which lasted less than five minutes, the White House said the two leaders discussed a joint statement on Syria, as well as alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
Trump spoke to reporters on Air Force One before landing in Hanoi, Vietnam on Saturday evening local time, reiterating that Putin said he did not meddle in the election.
"He said he didn't meddle," Trump told reporters. "He said he didn't meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times. I just asked him again. He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election. He did not do what they are saying he did."
rev james boswell has acknowledged he returned to spamming
I only post after he spams
he blames me for his actions
a pastor who thinks he is right to do wrong if he feels he was wronged, even if he wasn't. Must be a teaching in his bible.
A STUPID ASSHOLE PREACHER, dangerous to himself, especially when he sets his special "traps". Those must hurt.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Trump says he trusts Putin over his own intelligence agencies on election interference
President Donald Trump said he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin’s claim that the Kremlin did not attempt to interfere in the 2016 election, contradicting the conclusions of U.S. intelligence agencies and Congress.
Trump spoke with the Russian leader this week in Vietnam during a joint summit with other Asia-Pacific countries. When a reporter asked if the subject of Russian election interference came up, Trump said that, “He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election, he did not do what they are saying he did... every time he sees me he says I didn’t do that and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it. But he says I didn’t do that.”
Trump also took multiple shots at his 2016 rival Hillary Clinton and lamented that Putin is “very insulted” by the accusations of election meddling.
The president’s comments fly in the face of a report from U.S. intelligence agencies earlier this year that concluded that Putin ordered hacking against the Democratic National Committee to help Trump get elected. The hacking is the subject of multiple federal investigations into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia at all, which the president has strongly denied.
____________________
HE IS A DUNCE.
Oh, I am just so SORRY that Putin is "very insulted" by our intelligence community's certainty that he was personally involved in election meddling.
Maybe he would feel better if Trump would put his statue in the Jefferson memorial or somewhere.
MORE SHIT FROM SHIT FOR BRAINS !!!
MUST BE HELL TO BE YOU, the again that's what most call getting acclimated.
ROFLMFAO !!!
WHAT DOES PUTIN HAVE TO DO WITH MOORE??
guess you think he's meddling in Moore's election.
or else your spam provider has no idea how to stay on topic
or how to hold contrary thoughts
OR FOR THAT MATTER ANY THOUGHTS OF YOUR OWN. If only God had given you a brain.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Thank goodness that the President's power to pardon is explicit and well defined in the Constitution, which prevents this opinion from being legally sound:
"The President of the United States has the power to pardon anyone. Since he can already pardon his "director of national security" (although I believe you meant National Security adviser Flynn) if he so chooses, doing far less than he has the authority to do is not "obstruction"."
Think about where that leads. A President can pardon any crime in Federal jurisdiction. Your reasoning, leading to the Pardon as the ultimate authority over any of those crimes, would extend the President's authority to any involvement in those crimes. The Constitution does not grant the President absolute authority over legal matters (the necessary implication of your argument) therefore your argument fails.
Pardon is distinct and separate from all other powers and authorities. It has no implication other than the pardon itself. It cannot be used to justify any other action of the President, nor anyone else.
Roy Moore Gets the Herman Cain Treatment
It was déjà vu all over again as the Washington Post, who has endorsed his opponent in the Alabama Senate race, brought forth 40-year-old sexual molestation accusations against Judge Roy Moore. From Clarence Thomas, to the Duke lacrosse team, to the University of Virginia rape case, to Herman Cain, we have heard such charges before and the rush to judgment that follows.
Moore’s accusers issue the boilerplate caveat that if the charges are true, he should exit the public stage immediately in shame and certainly that is true. Then they quickly throw him under the guilty-as-charged bus that just ran over his presumption of innocence.
It matters not that Judge Roy Moore has been in Alabama politics for decades and his accusers were silent -- silent until he threatened the establishment by being a credible candidate for the U.S. Senate, having dispatched the establishment candidate, Luther Strange, in the Alabama primary. Had Moore lost the primary, it is doubtful these accusations would have surfaced. If he withdraws as his critics urge, his accusers will likely vanish into the woodwork as quickly as the accusers of Herman Cain did, their mission accomplished, after he abandoned his presidential run that was clearly gaining momentum.
In Moore’s case, as with others like his, it's sentence first, trial later. Sen. John McCain, who opposes all things Trump, leading the charge of those grabbing some rope and heading to the nearest tree"
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/11/roy_moore_gets_the_herman_cain_treatment.html
And earlier...
___________________________________________
Now Washington Post misfires in attack on Roy Moore?
The Washington Post apparently has misfired in a political attack on former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, now the GOP candidate for the Alabama Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
The newspaper accused Moore of not reporting or paying taxes on compensation to which he was entitled but did not receive.
The Foundation for Moral Law, which was paying Moore as its president for the years at issue, said in a statement that all transactions and arrangements were reported fully to the IRS. The foundation then charged the reporters essentially were working on a political hit.
“For the Washington Post to state that Judge Moore secretly ‘collected’ monies he never received or that the Foundation failed to properly report its indebtedness to the IRS is false,” a statement from foundation officials charged. “Furthermore, the reporters responsible for the false and misleading articles on the foundation and Judge Moore have written 20 stories, jointly, since last year, 17 of which have been direct attacks on our president and conservative principles.
http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/now-washington-post-misfires-in-attack-on-roy-moore/
___________________________________
Rumor is out there that the Washington Post was offering to pay cash money for other "victims" to appear...... supposedly caught on tape...
Also worth considering is the fact the accusations revolve around 4 different women who all claim to have never met or even previously been aware of each other. So how did the Post reporter even suddenly become aware of these girls identities and manage to track them all down 4 decades later? Let alone convince them all to suddenly come out publicly about alleged crimes they had seemingly happily stayed quite about for 38 years.
If all the above isn’t inherently suspect enough for you on its own, take into consideration the fact that the moral character of the stories lead writers are certainly suspect as well. With author Stephanie McCrummen having a lengthy criminal record stretching over three states including being caught writing fake checks. Worse yet is the fact that new accusations are now claiming that the stories other lead writer Beth Reinhard, apparently was offering up $1000 in cash to any Alabaman women willing to accuse Roy Moore of sexual misconduct. This story coming from a U.S. naval veteran who claims the taped conversation is now with a local DA’s office.
https://squawker.org/politics/wprm/
I forget Roger...
What was Mueller appointed to investigate?
Menstra the sycophant posted....
I am amused at being accused of supporting a "child molester" by Dennis
Don't you hate it when you have it crammed up your ass.....As tp your claims about Clinton....please provide a link to the conviction of your alleged crimes.....Seems to me all the fake "if proven true" for moore now apply to Clinton..... LOLOL at my idiot McPhee. So easy....
WP - argue it with Dershowitz and other constitutional experts.
But keep in mind, WP... the concept of the FBI being "separate" is a myth. They are part of the executive branch, and they all work at the pleasure of the President.
If you don't like it... amend the constitution.
James's idiot father posted....
It matters not that Judge Roy Moore has been in Alabama politics for decades and his accusers were silent
So, I'm sure you posted that knowing how a women who was molested reacts....idiot...
That's a different question CH. You were citing the pardon, not the President's authority over the FBI.
What was Mueller appointed to investigate?
Anywhere that the data leads him....just like the clinton special investigation....LOL Amazing how your selective memory works, CH...
Dershowitz's argument is a little weak, but better than your argument that the potential of a Pardon absolves all other Presidential actions relating to an investigation, even allegedly illegal ones.
The Starr special appointment first investigated the Whitewater financial situation. Fifteen people either plead guilty or were found guilty. Most of them went to prison, including the Governor or Arkansas. Nobody was charged or investigate for any other activities.
The Lewinski investigation was separate. Janet Reno (in Jan 1998) provided a specific approval for an "expansion" of the inquiry specifically into the Clinton-Lewinski-Jones/lawsuit situation - based on information provided by Linda Tripp, who had been taping conversations between herself and Lewinski.
When you make a "claim" opie that supposedly proves a point... and declare that people do not have good memories, it's prudent to have your facts straight.
You were citing the pardon, not the President's authority over the FBI.
Well WP... there are a variety of reasons why a President is not obstructing Justice for providing the FBI director with a suggestion or potential request. No reason to have to pick just one.
Most all constitutional law experts have suggested that the President has the authority to simply order the FBI director (or order the Attorney General to make the order) to cease a particular investigation.
It may not seem "right" to some... but that is sort of what the constitution provides.
"When you make a "claim" opie that supposedly proves a point... and declare that people do not have good memories, it's prudent to have your facts straight."
That would be a first.
It's sort of like those who are suggesting that Mueller was "obstruction justice" for not charging Clinton. I think it's a dangerous precedent to have a change of Presidents, fire the FBI director, replace him with someone new, and then charge the old FBI director with a crime because you didn't care for his judgment on a particular case.
Now if there is true bribery, coercion, a conspiracy or something grossly unethical then there would be reason to make charges (other than obstruction). But short of putting together some evidence of a plot or some provable political collusion or quid pro quo - an FBI director should be provided the ability to make a call on his/her own judgement.
Yeah good day. The President is convinced that the Russian intervention isn't true.
HANOI, Vietnam (AP) — President Donald Trump said Russia's Vladimir Putin once again vehemently denied interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections during their discussions on the sidelines of an economic summit Saturday. Trump declined to say whether he believed Putin, but made clear he's not interested in dwelling on the issue.
"He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election. He did not do what they are saying he did," Trump said of Putin, speaking with reporters aboard Air Force One as he traveled to Hanoi, the second-to-last stop of his Asia trip.
"Every time he sees me, he said: 'I didn't do that.' And I believe, I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it," Trump said, noting that Putin is "very insulted" by the accusation. Trump called the allegation an "artificial barrier" erected by Democrats — once again casting doubt on the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia tried to interfere in the election to help Trump win.
AP
World Nut Daily.
No one believes a damn thing from the site. They still claim that Obama was born in Kenya.
Are you going to spam this FIVE more times today?
Blogger Loretta said...
Are you going to spam this FIVE more times today?
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
what else does he have to do with his steaming shitpile of a life?
we're talking about a guy who incessantly cyberstalked our blog host in the middle of the fuicking night, for chrissakes.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
World Nut Daily.
No one believes a damn thing from the site.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
says the clown who can't get the taste of kevin drum's ass out of his mouth.
"we're talking about a guy who incessantly cyberstalked our blog host in the middle of the fuicking night, for chrissakes."
Yeah, that's one of the weirdest things yet.
Despite the fact, that our intelligence services stated unscientifically, that the Russian Government meddled in our 2016 presidential election, the President said, on Veteran's Day, where millions have sacrificed their lives to defend our democracy, he lied repeatedly in a statement make earlier today.
This diacritical democratic hit Job gets in the way. It gets in the way. Amd I think that it's shame because people will die because of it. And its a pure hit job. And it's artificially induced. And i think it's a shame that something like that can destroy a very impotent potential relationship between two countries that a very important countries. Russia could really help us.
Russian Hackers Acted to Aid Trump in Election, U.S. Says
WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.
They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.
In the months before the election, it was largely documents from Democratic Party systems that were leaked to the public. Intelligence agencies have concluded that the Russians gave the Democrats’ documents to WikiLeaks.
Republicans have a different explanation for why no documents from their networks were ever released. Over the past several months, officials from the Republican committee have consistently said that their networks were not compromised, asserting that only the accounts of individual Republicans were attacked. On Friday, a senior committee official said he had no comment.
Mr. Trump’s transition office issued a statement Friday evening reflecting the deep divisions that emerged between his campaign and the intelligence agencies over Russian meddling in the election. “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction,” the statement said. “The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It’s now time to move on and ‘Make America Great Again.’”
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html?rref=collection%2Fnewseventcollection%2Frussian-election-hacking&action=click&contentCollection=politics®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=3&pgtype=collection&_r=0
In May testimony to a Senate panel, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper clarified that the intelligence community's report concluding that Russia meddled in the US election was prepared by three agencies: the CIA, FBI, NSA, and managed by Clapper's office, which oversees the entire intelligence community. But not all 17 intelligence agencies signed off on the document.
At the same time, Clapper also noted that no other intelligence agencies dissented from the conclusions.
"We decided it was a conscious judgment to restrict it to those three," Clapper told Minnesota Sen. Al Franken at the hearing. "I'm not aware of anyone who dissented, or disagreed when it came out."
Those assessments also have not changed after Trump's team took over the intelligence agencies.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/06/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-russia/index.html
Is there any reasonable doubt that he's ether incompetent or mentally ill. Or just a fucking lying son of a bitch.
Despite the fact, that our intelligence services stated unscientifically, that the Russian Government meddled in our 2016 presidential election
"Unscientifically"? What does that mean? They consulted a magic 8 ball?
Spelling bee correction
Is that all you have?
Unequivocally ok. Now what ¿?
300 words of Trumpism?
orettaNovember 11, 2017 at 10:16 AM
Are you going to spam this FIVE more times today?
orettaNovember 11, 2017 at 10:16 AM
Are you going to spam this FIVE more times today?
orettaNovember 11, 2017 at 10:16 AM
Are you going to spam this FIVE more times today?
orettaNovember 11, 2017 at 10:16 AM
Are you going to spam this FIVE more timesorettaNovember 11, 2017 at 10:16 AM
Are you going to spam this FIVE more times today? today?
You mean other than intelligence had "high confidence" that Saddam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction?
I don't believe they got any better since the last Iraq war.
CS has stage 4
Sad
"Or just a fucking lying son of a bitch."
Rich, coming from the obnoxious spammer.
Poor Roger. He just keeps isolating himself from the real world.
By the way, Moore said on the Sean Hannity radio show, that he dated teen age girls when in his thirties.
Twit can't remember that this is a relevant story. He believes Putin and does not believe our own services. Provide a complete sentence in response.
Menstra unfortunately believes that Putin is right. He believes Putin and does not believe our own services.
Sure drunkard.
Sure.
Actually Moore did not say that. Nor did he really denied it.
However according to Alabama law three of the four accusers where consenting adults at the time and he's accused of nothing more that dating and kissing them.
No accusations of sexual assault or any unwanted sexual contact.
"By the way, Moore said on the Sean Hannity radio show, that he dated teen age girls when in his thirties."
Your butt buddy James did too.
Menstra unfortunately believes that Putin is right. He believes Putin and does not believe our own services.
Really and you know this how?
No, I'm not commenting on Putin's denials or Trump's statement.
Just your hysterical reaction.
Aren't you somewhat surprised that Roger has the nerve to comment about lying, in light of CH proving Roger outright lied about CH?
Surprised at Roger? No.
He level of deceit and cognitive dissonance is so great nothing surprises me about him.
*His level of deceit
CH selectively ignored how white water led to Paula Jolnes....the blue dress, monica, tripp , the travel agents etc which led to the big lie and impeachment.....Nice try CH, you failed again...Idiot, your slip is showing again...LOL at you again
You don't remember much. It is well documented that the Bush administration cherry picked intelligent sources to build the support for the Iraq war
It well respected and I will enjoy showing your descent into Trumpism stage 4.5.
The weakness in that argument is that it isolates the action of "simply order the FBI director to cease" from the enveloping circumstances. It's rather specious to tell you the truth. Anything the President does, including interfering with investigations, can be perfectly legal and within his authority yet illegal in a given situation.
It really hinges on whether on not Trump was trying to limit examinations involving his own actions, or in his own personal interests. I believe that this is why the Special Investigator's remit includes everything that might pertain to the Russian involvement, and extends the prosecution authority to whatever crimes that may be uncovered. If there are crimes, and Trump was involved or his personal interests were advanced by the commission of crimes, then Mueller will make the case that Trump was obstructing justice in his actions with FBI Director Comey. And in other of his actions, as the case may be. His statutory authority over Comey will not be a case-killer.
WASHINGTON — A long-delayed Senate report endorsed by Democrats and some Republicans has concluded that President Bush and his aides built the public case for war against Iraq by exaggerating available intelligence and by ignoring disagreements among spy agencies about Iraq’s weapons programs and Saddam Hussein’s links to Al Qaeda.
The report was released Thursday after years of partisan squabbling, and it marks the close of five years of investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee into the use, abuse and faulty assessments of intelligence leading up to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
That some Bush administration claims about the Iraqi threat turned out to be false is hardly new. But the report, based on a detailed review of public statements by Mr. Bush and other officials, is the most comprehensive effort to date to assess whether policymakers systematically painted a more dire picture about Iraq than was justified by available intelligence.
The 170-page report accuses Mr. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other top officials of repeatedly overstating the Iraqi threat in the emotional aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks. Its findings were endorsed by all eight committee Democrats and two Republicans, Senators Olympia Snowe of Maine and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.
ADVERTISEMENT
In a statement accompanying the report, Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, the West Virginia Democrat who is chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said: “The president and his advisers undertook a relentless public campaign in the aftermath of the attacks to use the war against Al Qaeda as a justification for overthrowing Saddam Hussein.”
Dana Perino, the White House spokesman, on Thursday called the report a “selective view,” and said the Bush administration’s public statements were based on the same faulty intelligence given to Congress and endorsed by foreign intelligence services. Senator Christopher S. Bond of Missouri, the committee’s top Republican, called the report a “waste of committee time and resources.”
The report on the prewar statements about Iraq found that on some key issues — most notably Iraq’s purported nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs — the public statements from Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and other senior officials were generally “substantiated” by the best estimates at the time from American intelligence agencies. But the report found that the administration officials’ statements usually did not reflect the intelligences agencies’ uncertainties about the evidence or disputes among them.
In a separate report, the Intelligence Committee provided new details about a series of clandestine meetings in Rome and Paris between Pentagon officials and Iranian dissidents in 2001 and 2003. The meetings included discussions about possible covert actions to destabilize the government in Tehran, and they were used by the Pentagon officials to glean information about internal rivalries inside of Iran and suspected Iranian “hit” team targeting American troops in Afghanistan
Read it and weep
Google it genius
http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=4061
CH needs to learn how to read and accept the fact he is fallible.....LOL Thanx for playing again, CH. You proved your bias again...
It is well documented that the Bush administration cherry picked intelligent sources to build the support for the Iraq war
Except for die heart idiots of the right.....the certainty of WMD's was pushed by Cheney and the mushroom clouds....no one else...
You don't remember much. It is well documented that the Bush administration cherry picked intelligent sources to build the support for the Iraq war
Horseshit Bush repeatedly ask if they were sure about Saddam's weapons:
George W. Bush; President of the United States: "George, how confident are you?"
George Tenet; Director CIA: "Mr President it is a slam dunk."
Notice how Roger's bombastic and emotional argument got destroyed with a couple of actual quotes.
He will never learn to think critically.
Be nice, HB is a Self professed "deep thinker".
Don't forget the Dem leadership when Bill the rapist was President assured us Sadam had chemicals.
Bill clinton, Madam albright, Carl Levein, Sandy Berger, Nancy polisi and Bob graham and many more said he had chemical weapons.
So stfu.
"Notice how Roger's bombastic and emotional argument got destroyed with a couple of actual quotes."
LOL.
GO DAWGS
President Trump pro-US Energy, we hit peak oil production in US history.
Y over Y, 335 more oil rigs drilling.
Horseshit Bush repeatedly ask if they were sure about Saddam's weapons:
And Cheney kept saying there was......thanx for playing, scotty...
Moreover, the Bush administration appeared determined to attack Iraq for any number of reasons beyond suspicions of WMDs; officials simply seized on WMDs because they concluded that that represented the strongest case for an invasion. “For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on,” then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz told Vanity Fair in 2003.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/12/13/the-pre-war-intelligence-on-iraq-wrong-or-hyped-by-the-bush-white-house/?utm_term=.e72c3c39c0fa
KD thinks this means something.....
Y over Y, 335 more oil rigs drilling.
So fucking what!!!!!
We rightfully call u oDopie.
President Trump oil Boom.
KD said...
We rightfully call u oDopie.
SO FUCKING WHAT GOAT MOLESTER....
President Trump oil Boom
Wrong again mutton breath.....oil boom is driven by the price of crude and new techniques developed in previous admin....BTW, coal is deader than your intellect....LOL
Calm down, damn overly emotional gurls
Gore invented the Internet
Obama invented fracking
Factually, oil man from Texas George Mithey'll is the Father of Fracking. The extraction of natural gas with oil.
Washington Post
New York Times
CNN
and even they know it, totally agenda driven
KD the consummate asshole once again posted an alternative fact.....
Factually, oil man from Texas George Mithey'll is the Father of Fracking.
Fracking was tried in 1947 and was put into real use in 1950...Seems to me your father is not.....The relationship between well performance and treatment pressures was studied by Floyd Farris of Stanolind Oil and Gas Corporation. This study was the basis of the first hydraulic fracturing experiment, conducted in 1947 at the Hugoton gas field in Grant County of southwestern Kansas by Stanolind.[4][25] For the well treatment, 1,000 US gallons (3,800 l; 830 imp gal) of gelled gasoline (essentially napalm) and sand from the Arkansas River was injected into the gas-producing limestone formation at 2,400 feet (730 m). The experiment was not very successful as deliverability of the well did not change appreciably. The process was further described by J.B. Clark of Stanolind in his paper published in 1948. A patent on this process was issued in 1949 and exclusive license was granted to the Halliburton Oil Well Cementing Company. On 17 March 1949, Halliburton performed the first two commercial hydraulic fracturing treatments in Stephens County, Oklahoma, and
...
Obama invented fracking
You said that, not me jerk off.. Nice try again, douche....
WP -
it would be unconscionable for someone to charge anyone for obstruction after the fiasco that was the Clinton Email investigation... where the President demanded she was not guilty, where the Justice department provided immunity to people who should have been targets (obviously with nothing received in return), people blatantly lying without being charged with false statements...
The reality is that no President, no Attorney General, or no intelligence director has ever been charged for obstruction for suggesting someone wasn't guilty or otherwise recommending leniency.
Don't provide silly outlandish arguments about how 1+1+1 might equal 4 if you assume X, Y, and Z. Show me the precedent.
Thanks for the Link Opie...
Had you bothered to read it, it would have confirmed what I suggested.
That it was Linda Tripp who initiated the taping, provided the information to the FBI and to the Starr team...
Regardless if your link omitted it or not...
and it was still Janet Reno who on January 16th, 1998 provided the approval (publicly) to start an investigation into the Clinton-Lewinsky affair.
Ken Starr just didn't start investigating that on his own. It went back through the proper channels for an official expansion of the investigation... and everyone was made aware.
Your article also confirms that the Starr report suggested impeachable offenses and that the house followed up on that recommendation:
tarr delivered a report to Congress on September 9, 1998, citing eleven possible impeachable offenses arising from efforts by Clinton personally or through his associates to cover up his indiscretions with Lewinsky or sidetrack the investigation. They involved perjury, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power. On December 19, the House of Representatives, voting largely along party lines, impeached Clinton on two articles—perjury before the grand jury and obstruction of justice—by votes of 228 to 206 and 221 to 212.
It was not about... as liberals love to suggest... a blow job.
Of course, a federal investigator (same as Robert Mueller) reported 11 impeachable offenses...
People like you and Roger... still claim there is "no case" and it was all about a blow job.
Thanks again for proving me correct with your link.
We correctly call him oDopie.
US Coal production in 2017 is 10% higher then in the last year of the lost years. 3 % higher exports of coal bringing more wealth into the USA.
The compounding value a the cyclical dollar.
Show me the precedent.
1998 Clinton impeached for one count of obstruction and one count of perjury.
1974 Articles of Impeachment of Nixon passed by the Judiciary Committee, for various obstruction of justice charges. Including,
"4. interfering or endeavouring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation"
1998 Clinton impeached for one count of obstruction and one count of perjury.
Clinton obstruction was lying and witness tampering.
Nixon was charged for refusing to turn over information that was legally subpoenaed.
Those are standard reasons why people are charged.
I have no issue with Trump (or any President) being impeached for obstruction if it turns out the President was giving false statements, asking others to give false statements, or sending White House lawyers to witnesses to sign false affidavits, or refusing to turn over documents that are legally subpoenaed.
_______
I am asking if you have a precedent for someone being charged with obstruction for recommending or suggesting leniency to a subordinate who is investigating... that did not involve some other sort of quid pro quo, bribery, extortion, etc...
Prosecutors, District Attorneys, etc... all make judgement calls as to how hard they may pursue something. Obviously they have limited resources and have to pick and choose where to use them. Sometimes it's legitimate to decide to "not" spend your resources on someone who otherwise has a distinguished record of service and I am quite sure people in authority sometimes make certain suggestions to their subordinates as to who to pursue and who not to. Has anyone ever been charged for "obstruction" for making a suggestion that an investigator not spend their time going in a particular direction (again, aside from being paid or otherwise being provided quid pro quo).
What sort of precedent would it make if people with such authority are charged with the crime of obstruct every time they choose not to pursue a case, or make a recommendation to move resources in a different direction?
I think you really understood my question and are being purposely obtuse.
The worst part of this is not that Trump takes Putin's word over the evidence based analysis of his own intelligence agencies. It is not even that he plays the role of a useful idiot as he kowtows to Putin yet again. The worst part, by far, is that a hostile power is engaged in an ongoing attack on America's political system and Trump is deliberately stripping the nation's defenses bare and leaving us exposed to future assaults. It is unilateral disarmament plain and simple,” said Thomas Wright, Director of the Center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution and an expert in national security. "We have never seen this type of weakness in a U.S. president before."
Mike Morrell, former deputy director and acting director of the CIA, described the president's remarks as "a setback to the relationship between the IC and its president."
"I would never trust Putin’s word over the considered, high-confidence judgment of the Intelligence Community. Putin is a trained liar and manipulator. He’s comes across as believable because he is so good at deception. And, the President is biting hook, line, and sinker," he said. "Much progress had been made in that relationship since the early days, but this will most definitely will be a step backward."
Trump said he and Putin had "two or three very short conversations” during the APEC summit. The White House had previously said the two leaders would not hold a formal meeting.
Putin and Trump largely focused on Syria during their chats, according to the president.
Following the discussions, the U.S. and Russia released a joint statement on Saturday in which they “confirmed their determination to defeat ISIS in Syria.”
Spam by the drunkard
C.H. Truth said...
Thanks for the Link Opie...
Had you bothered to read it, it would have confirmed what I suggested.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! It confirmed what I said!!! Without the white water special prosecutor.....the rest of your alleged investigations would never ever have happened!! Nice try...LOLOL That is fact and you saying your suggested chain of events is just you being an obstinate sycophant...I've said this more than once....can't fix stupid, especially extremists like you.....
KD the loser posted again without context or link.
is 10% higher then in the last year of the lost years
And a second grader has more smarts than the lost goat molester......
The idiot of kansas posts how many rigs were drilling yesterday, again without context.....Here's some context to his stupid statistic that shows how meaningless his post was.....Average production of a new oil well.....147 barrels a day.....so the idiot farmers statistic may provide 50k barrels a day if all those wells were successful, which at best would be 40% of 300.... Idiot....
Without the white water special prosecutor.....the rest of your alleged investigations would never ever have happened!!
And without the whitewater scandal there would have been no prosecutor so what is your point?
That fouting the law was a Clinton habit? I think we all knew that.
And without the whitewater scandal there would have been no prosecutor so what is your point?
My point is you can't read or think beyond your nose....LOLOL Try again, GED, your lack of ability is showing.....
Yeah that what I thought. No point. Just a waste of breath.
Commonsense said...
Yeah that what I thought. No point. Just a waste of breath.
The obstinate and lazy once again gives up....LOLOLOL I win again.....
Yeah, you win. (eyes rolling)
And the beat goes on and on and on....Putin truthful. US Intelligence liars.....what a sad day for the US as the sycophants circle the wagon and pray for a pedophile to win a seat....Idiots...
November 12, 2017
The Washington Post
Democracy Dies in Darkness
Edition:U.S. & World|Regional
In the NewsVeterans DayHitler selfiesGiant crabPipe bombNew Delhi smogRadioactive cloudIncestTrump and AT&TRodrigo DuterteLouis C.K.Andrew LuckUCLA
Trump criticized for saying Putin is sincere in denial of election meddling
President Trump’s comments, made after informal chats with the Russian president, drew strong reactions. Trump also referred to former top U.S. intelligence officials as “political hacks.” Former director of national intelligence James Clapper Jr. said of Trump’s remarks, “The fact that he would take Putin at his word over the intelligence community is unconscionable.”
Trump blasts critics on Russia, taunts Kim Jong Un: “I would NEVER call him ‘short and fat’ ”
His tweets punctured the careful messaging he and his aides had sought to deliver on a five-nation trip through Asia. Trump ridiculed the North Korean leader after Kim again called him a “dotard.”
Blogger Commonsense said...
Yeah, you win.
About time you recognized my superiority....LOL
Fox ratings tanking.....the HS drop out Hannity leading the charge......money talks, idiots walk.....LOL
Advertisers began fleeing from Fox News’ “Hannity” following the conservative host’s much-criticized coverage of Alabama GOP Senate nominee Roy Moore’s sexual misconduct allegations.
Two companies — Realtor.com and Keurig — announced Saturday that they will no longer advertise on the show, according to The Hill.
Neither company attributed the decision to Sean Hannity’s coverage of the Moore scandal.
But they each affirmed their position in response to Twitter users complaining about Hannity’s kid-glove treatment of the GOP Senate hopeful accused of preying on younger women.
In May testimony to a Senate panel, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper clarified that the intelligence community's report concluding that Russia meddled in the US election was prepared by three agencies: the CIA, FBI, NSA
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
james clapper, alky?
the same james clapper who lied to congress?
the same james clapper who needed diane sawyer to tell him what the fuck was going on?
THAT james clapper, alky?
Rat hole the AG school flunky bitched as if true.....
the same james clapper who lied to congress?
Yeah....clapper also was working for Putin....idiot.....
Trump who can't find his own ass in the dark without chucklebee helping.....that trump?????
Clapper is not credible shit for brains. It's amazing there enough brain power to drive you massive bulk.
James clapper, sure who is next qoute Hillary?
Lordie.
Oil and coal production way up over the lost years. Fact.
Commonsense said...
Clapper is not credible shit for brains.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! And you with rathole don't have enough brain power to blow your nose....He still has a clearance and a working brain.....plus you don't have anything but allegations from biased sources and act as if they are true. Dayum you most amusing today with your abject stupidity....LOLOLOL
Oil and coal production way up over the lost years. Fact.
You saying so is about as credible as trump and his lies.....try again, douche bag......
http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-election-voters-20171108-story.html
Recommended reading for those who think donnie is uniting the country and doing well......LOL
Anthony Miles figured that Donald Trump, rich as he was, could not be bought off. Now he regrets voting for him.
"He said he was going to drain the swamp," said Miles, 62, a computer programmer who lives in Middletown, Conn. "All he's done is restocked it."
Miles was especially appalled by President Trump's appointment, since withdrawn, of a drug czar who took pharmaceutical donations as a congressman and wrote a law that thwarted federal power to punish companies that fuel opioid abuse.
A year after Trump stunned the world by defeating Hillary Clinton in one of the most consequential elections of modern times, the president is breaking records for unpopularity. Since World War II, no other president has scored Gallup approval ratings as low as Trump's during his first year in office. He bottomed out last week at 33%.
james clapper, alky?
the same james clapper who lied to congress?
the same james clapper who needed diane sawyer to tell him what the fuck was going on?
THAT james clapper, alky?
The Clapper that said the mooselimb brotherhood was secular?
The Clapper that said the moose limb brotherhood was secular?
Which was litigated long ago and proves what???? He backed off those comments 2 days after stating them....again, unlike you he admitted a mistake....
https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2011/02/dni-clapper-retreats-from-secular-claim-on-muslim-brotherhood-033259
The rest of the story cali ignored.....again, alternate reality of the right exposed....
From business insider ....a little bit of calm narrative instead of typical knee jerk reaction the right is famous for....
John Podhoretz, the New York Post columnist and author, is on the warpath over remarks made today by National Intelligence Director James Clapper:
This is one of the most reckless and irresponsible statements ever made publicly by an American official at a critical and delicate moment. If one of the key figures in the making of the administration’s foreign policy is already making excuses for the Muslim Brotherhood, the president needs to signal immediately that the United States does not view this evil and destructive force with rose-colored glasses. Hard to say how Obama can do that in a way that will be meaningful and still allow Clapper to remain in his office.
Okay. So what did General Clapper say? The nut paragraph, courtesy of Politico:
"The term 'Muslim Brotherhood'...is an umbrella term for a variety of movements, in the case of Egypt, a very heterogeneous group, largely secular, which has eschewed violence and has decried Al Qaeda as a perversion of Islam," Clapper said. "They have pursued social ends, a betterment of the political order in Egypt, et cetera.....In other countries, there are also chapters or franchises of the Muslim Brotherhood, but there is no overarching agenda, particularly in pursuit of violence, at least internationally." (our bold)
Is General Clapper stupid? No. Is he naive? No. Does he really believe that the Muslim Brotherhood is the United Way of Egypt? No. All those things being true, why would a senior intelligence figure of the United States government say what Gen. Clapper just said to Congress?
It appears tactical. Egypt is at a very sensitive stage of "transition." Having everybody included in the negotiations regarding how that transition plays out is critical to US interests. Chaos is not a viable option. Clapper giving the Muslim Brotherhood a big bear hug makes it more difficult for them to disrupt the transition process.
Either that or General Clapper is a fool. Either way, the right-wing rush is on to have him sacked. The public flogging begins tonight.
Your mistakes are buffets
LMAO
It was common knowledge that Roy dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird…We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall.
A former prosecutor who worked in Alabama with GOP Senate nominee Roy Moore in the early 1980s told CNN on Saturday that it was “common knowledge” that Moore dated teenagers — and people thought it was “weird.”
“It was common knowledge that Roy dated high school girls. Everyone we knew thought it was weird,” former Etowah County deputy district attorney Teresa Jones told CNN national correspondent Alexander Marquardt. “We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall. But you really wouldn’t say anything to someone like that.”
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Your mistakes are buffets
Once again you prove that you are incapable of a cogent response that proves the clapper commentary is off base....Your bias is unmistakable and ruinous....Go do something important like banging your head up a mates ass....LOLOLOL
Asshole.
Moore is a real pedo. But the twit still loves him.
it was “common knowledge” that Moore dated teenagers
Typical southern behavior....something cali should be veery familiar with having hillbillies as relatives....thank goodness the women folk were able to outrun the boys.....LOL
Without the white water special prosecutor.....the rest of your alleged investigations would never ever have happened!
Actually no that's not true. Not even close.
Linda Tripp had nothing to do with the Special Investigation. She quite separately provided damaging information to both the FBI and the Starr investigation. It was going to be investigated either way.
The fact that the investigation was turned over to the special prosecutor (for convenience sake) had nothing to do with Ken Starr.
It was Janet Reno - using information provided by Linda Tripp regarding a completely different court case (Paula Jones lawsuit) - who made the decision for Starr to investigate.
Starr did not uncover the evidence that led to the investigation. In facts Starr's original Whitewater investigation was pretty much concluded when he started on the Lewinski deal.
You are simply wrong, Opie. Or just too stupid to see the difference.
CHT Put up a HERO Veterans day thread.
Not ONE sad ass liberal posted on it.
True liberal colors came out.
I have pictures of my family who served in the military during World War two. My father, and two uncles. Carroll, Lynn (KIA). But I can't post a real picture of the veterans, so I let it go. They got a lot more views on Facebook.
Go fuck Daisy. Moo moo
HB. I see my post hit my mark. You self exposed as a "sad ass Liberal".
I served. Why is it you failed, oh yeah, rejected for being too stupid.
Sicko, so your Daisy.
"But I can't post a real picture of the veterans, so I let it go."
Post them on the trash blog.
HB acts like thier service has a fucking thing to do with his alky life.
Great point, HB can post them there, he didnt, loser Lilly white Lynn HB.
Too stupid to pass the US Armed Service paper test.
Priceless admission by HB.
Colleague Says Moore Regularly Dated High School Girls
A former colleague of GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore said that it was “common knowledge” that the Alabama Republican dated high school girls when he worked in the Etowah County District Attorney’s Office in the 1980s, The Hill reports.
Said Teresa Jones: “It was common knowledge that Roy Moore dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird. We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall… but you really wouldn’t say anything to someone like that.”
"but you really wouldn’t say anything to someone like that."
I would!
It's not normal for a grown man to find post pubescent teenagers sexy.
Two top former U.S. intelligence officials said Sunday that President Trump is being “played” by President Vladimir Putin on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and accused him of being susceptible to foreign leaders who stroke his ego.
“By not confronting the issue directly and not acknowledging to Putin that we know you’re responsible for this, I think he’s giving Putin a pass,” former CIA director John Brennan said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “I think it demonstrates to Mr. Putin that Donald Trump can be played by foreign leaders who are going to appeal to his ego and try to play upon his insecurities, which is very, very worrisome from a national security standpoint.”
Appearing on the same program, former director of national intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. said he agrees with that assessment.
"HB acts like thier service has a fucking thing to do with his alky life."
He has no personal claim to fame, so he rides on the coattails of others.
The disgusting fake farmer again, insulted my Uncle Lynn Amick. (KIA WW2) .
Not ONE of the truthers called him out for his slander of a warrior for the United States Of America.
Grow up.
Exactly, perversion has to be called out.
IF, Hillary would have done it, look at all those woman she could have saved from sexual abuse.
loser Lilly white Lynn HB.
Too stupid to pass the US Armed Service paper test.
Priceless admission by HB.
November 12, 2017 at 12:42 PM
The insult of a lot war hero.
The second is a flat out lie.
I was typing, in 1970, to join the United States Navy nuclear power six year enlightenment. Before I was flown to Denver for the physical examination. I took a test before the flight. In a meeting with the guy who reviewed the score on the test. I scored a 95%. They were disappointed when I failed the physical examination. K'putz comments are not believable.
No
One
Cares
Those are standard reasons why people are charged.
Because each happened once, so now they're standard?
BTW you should go back and review the charges against Nixon, because they don't really conform to how you described them. I quoted part 4, directly from the document, and it was interfering with an investigation. If Trump is ever charged, Nixon will be a precedent.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Apparently now the "pastor" (asshole rev james boswell for those doing google searches and checking to see if he is a sexual predator, has arrest record, is from Normal Illinois etc) is posting his political_lire spam using my moniker.
For those people I want to point out the "pastor" is a regular liar here, is unethical, has no morals, does not follow board protocol and in fact leads a life below pond scum. He is on the highway to hell.
Our site, according to him, is under surveillance, apparently by the ACLU. Then again he regularly says he has set or is setting a trap. The only problem for him is he is more incompetent than Inspector Clouseau or Elmer J Fudd and he himself would be caught in any such imaginary sting. He is a lot less wily than any coyote.
But he is a fucking asshole, and please take that into account. And if anyone here sees JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY bringing political_lire spam (or any spam for that matter) to this site know that the "pastor" has lost again and has no moral compass whatsoever ... Maybe all the charges that he is a pedophile are true, that does seem to be a consensus here. Well back to your google searches...
ROFLMFAO !!!
CH on the losing side posted...
Actually no that's not true. Not even close.
Really CH, you can say with with complete certainty there would have been a special prosecutor hired by reno for just the tripp phone calls? Dayum your delusions get strong by the day.......it grows with each excuse you make for donnie....How the mighty have fallen.... Your logic is a joke and comment about starr stupid.....Again, a valiant but vain attempt, CH, stop digging...
Republican leaders around the country reacted last week with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and others calling on Moore to leave the race if the accusations were true. Other senators and Mitt Romney responded without caveat that Moore should withdraw. Late Friday, Sens. Steve Daines and Mike Lee withdrew endorsements of Moore, while Sen. Bill Cassidy pulled back his support for Moore on Saturday. The National Republican Senatorial Committee also pulled out of a fundraising agreement with Moore.
Opie...
The reality - like it or not - was that Starr did not investigate the Lewinski matter until information was provided to the FBI (and special counsel) and until the Attorney General assigned the investigation to Starr.
Whether Reno would have otherwise brought in another special counsel or simply investigated it through normal channels is irrelevant. It would have been investigated and the investigation was not "because" of Starr.
It was not some direction that Starr decided to go because he went looking for it. Starr's investigation was specific to the Whitewater probe and of course, he got 15 people brought to justice that were specific to the very specifics of what he was asked to investigate.
Mueller was asked to investigate the Russian meddling and any possible collusion that might have occurred between the Russians and U.S. Citizens.
You want to put odds on how much "evidence" his grand investigation will uncover on that specific question?
Starr did the two jobs he was asked to do... nothing more, nothing less. He was a professional.
Mueller doesn't appear to be doing the one thing he was asked to do.
In anticipation of Mr. Trump’s arrival, leftist activists, rights groups and students protested on Sunday in the streets of the Philippines.
“His first Asian visit is turning out to be preposterous, cringe-worthy and a disaster waiting to happen for Southeast Asia people,” said a farmers’ group called Union of Agricultural Workers. It called Mr. Duterte the United States’ “main puppet in Asia.”
Because each happened once, so now they're standard?
No... perjury, witness tampering, evidence tampering, or the refusal to turn over subpoenaed information are garden variety reasons why people are charged with obstruction.
What you are suggesting has never been prosecuted as far as you have provided us.
I think when a law has been in place (such as obstruction) since we have pretty much had laws, and nobody has ever been prosecuted for what you are suggesting, that would seem pretty good evidence that those actions doesn't fit the law.
And we both know if you start prosecuting investigators and prosecutors for choosing to not to charge or recommending we not charge someone... that's a pretty dangerous slippery slope.
'pastor' James Boswell, normal Illinois, you need to take a different moniker. JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY is already taken.
You could have FUCKING ASSHOLE OBAMA or PEDOPHILE JAMES. They are currently available but may go fast. I could probably come up with even better ones.
ROFLMFAO !!!
The reality - like it or not - was that Starr did not investigate the Lewinsky until information was provided to the FBI (and special counsel)
Seems to me history differs from your jaded opinion. Again, you really need to get your facts straight before you alter them. Kellyanne said it best....alternate facts....LOLOLOL
On January 12, 1998, Tripp brought her tapes of Lewinsky’s conversations to Starr. He arranged for FBI agents to secretly record a conversation between Tripp and Lewinsky the next day, and on January 15, he requested and received permission from the Department of Justice and the judicial panel to expand the Whitewater investigation to the Lewinsky affair. Now whitewater, no bloowjob hunt....You lose CH. But I know you will continue your obstinance until you think you have come out on top. Dayum, too easy....
REAL NEWS:
The Attorney General's Letter:
In accordance with the Independent Counsel Reauthorization Act of 1994, I hereby notify in writing the Special Division of the Court that I have commenced a preliminary investigation, 28 U.S.C. Section 592 (a)(1), into whether violations of Federal criminal law were committed by Monica Lewinsky or any other individual, as described below. As a result of my inquiry into this matter, I request expansion of the jurisdiction of independent counsel Kenneth Starr to further investigate and determine whether prosecution is warranted. 28 U.S.C. Section 593 (c)(1). The court has already been informed of this matter and my request orally.
LIBERAL FAKE NEWS
Starr investigates Bill Clinton blow job.
I have determined that it would be a conflict of interest for the Department of Justice to investigate Ms. Lewinsky for perjury and suborning perjury as a witness in this civil suit involving the President, in light of the allegations involved the lawsuit. 28 U.S.C. Section 591 (c)(1)
I have also determined that the taped conversation establishes that further investigation of this matter is warranted. 28 U.S.C. Section 592 (c)(1)
It would be appropriate for independent counsel Starr to handle this matter because he is currently investigating similar allegations involving possible efforts to influence witnesses in his own investigation. Some potential subjects and witnesses in this matter overlap with those in his ongoing investigation. Independent counsel Starr has requested that this matter be referred to him.
Attached is a recommended draft order expanding independent counsel Starr's jurisdiction to include this matter.
Opie...
You still don't get it.
Linda Tripp came to Starr and the FBI.
Starr didn't seek this out.
Ultimately it was Reno's call.
Mueller is simply deciding to charge people with old crimes that have nothing to do with the principal purpose. Perhaps Rosenstein has also (privately) approved expansion. Reno made her decision public
WASHINGTON — The Latest on the debate over Roy Moore, Alabama's Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate, who faces allegations that he initiated sexual contact with a 14-year old girl decades ago.
Alabama Republican Roy Moore is trying to raise money for his U.S. Senate race on allegations he had a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old girl when he was in his early 30s.
Moore wrote in his fundraising pitch that "the vicious and sleazy attacks against me are growing more vicious by the minute." He told supporters that he's counting on them to stand with him by "chipping in a donation,"
Moore will face Democrat Doug Jones in a special election on Dec. 12
The Washington Post reported last week that the 70-year-old Moore had relationships with teenage girls, including a 14-year-old, while he was in his early 30s. Moore has vehemently denied the allegations in the Post story.
___
1:25 p.m.
Republican Sen. Pat Toomey says Alabama GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore should drop out of the race following allegations he had sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl decades ago.
Speaking on NBC, Toomey says because the "accusations have more credibility than the denial, I think it would be best if Roy would just step aside." The Pennsylvania senator says Moore's primary opponent, Luther Strange, should be considered as a write-in candidate to run against him.
The Washington Post reported last week that the 70-year-old Moore had relationships with teenage girls while he was in his early 30s. Moore has vehemently denied the allegations.
Toomey didn't rule out the possibility that Senate Republicans might work to unseat Moore if he wins the special election against Democrat Doug Jones on Dec. 12.
No
One
Cares
I see the "pastor" loves typing this, loves identity theft, and loves spamming.
Get a life MOTHERFUCKER. Well you're so old I guess you have few options. Probably spend most of the day worrying about changing your diaper. Certainly are not contributing anything anyone here cares about.
Did you read about Obama needing help paying off male students he was sexually abusing at college? No wonder you like him.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Post a Comment