Friday, September 29, 2017

Oh Oh Spaghettio...

 U.S. Supreme Court’s grants certiorari in Janus v. American Federation of State

Take one: 
The Associated Press says that with a conservative majority, the Supreme Court will hear “a new case with the potential to financially cripple Democratic-leaning labor unions that represent government workers. The justices deadlocked 4-4 in a similar case last year.”
Take two: 
In Friedrichs, decided last year, the Court split 4-4 following the death of Justice Scalia, and therefore left standing a 9th Circuit decision adverse to the plaintiff, a California school teacher. In Janus, like Friedrichs, plaintiffs are asking the Court to overturn the ruling in Abood v. Detroit Board of Education and bar public employees from being forced into unions, or from being required to support unions via the fiction of “fair share” contributions. It is widely believed that Rebecca Friedrichs would have won her case had Scalia lived, and that, with Neil Gorsuch now sitting in place of Scalia, Janus and his co-plaintiff will win, Abood will be overturned, and public sector unions will be dealt a very serious blow.
Both liberals and conservatives are pretty much in agreement on this one.

They both agree that the 9th circuit court decision that allowed the teacher's union to continue to automatically collect/deduct dues from all employees (whether or not they are part of the union) will likely be overturned when the USSC hears the case (for the second time) in the upcoming session.

Moreover, liberals and conservatives are pretty much in agreement that this will cause a serious (if not fatal) blow to the political interests of the public sector unions. Certainly these unions can still do the unimportant trivial things... you know, like negotiate wages, benefits, and working conditions for employees. But the "really important" aspects of the unions (supporting the Democratic Party) would be a thing of the past.

Neil Gorsuch is still a tangible reminder of why this country is better off with Hillary Clinton fuming around in the private sector.

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commie said...

That was for the worker to decide.

And you think 7.25 minimum was the workers choice????? You need to learn how to think instead of just following like you do....

Anonymous said...

"The Press is lying everyday like drunken Saloirs" The President

commie said...

stump broken idiot posted....

Oh man keep up the reporting on the little idiot hero mayor, love her shirt.

That idiot mayor is wading around in feces infested waters and your hero is playing golf.....that is quite the picture o frumps lack of care for anyone but people like you.....you both deserve to burn in hell.....

Anonymous said...

"I don't like the tax cut" balls

I agree, to Timid.

Commonsense said...

He can choose to take the job at 7.25 per hour or not take it.

So yes it's his choice.

If enough people refuse the take the job at that wage, the employee raises the wage.

That's how markets work.

commie said...

stump broken asshole posted....
"The Press is lying everyday like drunken Saloirs" The President

Yeah, the media is lying about everything trump....just like trump and you....LOLOL Biggest crowd evah,,,,,done more than any pres. evah....tax break will be a miracle...to the rich....idiot

Anonymous said...

"I don't like the tax cut" balls

I agree, to Timid.

commie said...


So yes it's his choice.

Yep, his choice to enrich his boss and never get anywhere....you claim to be a christian....LOLOLOLOL Your attempt at logic is what created unions....maybe that is the solution....nice going menstral.....

Anonymous said...

"The poor will always live among you"

Yep, the laborer shall always be desperate for work. Simple economic fact.

Anonymous said...

The laborer always has the choice between leisure or labor.

commie said...



and Taking a knee has always been a sign of reverence, not disrespect


Yep, the laborer shall always be desperate for work.

Do you work hard at being this stupid, stumpy????? You seem just to be desperate for attention, like most mental midgets...

Anonymous said...

Madam Opie given what you believe are responses, I have to tell you something.

The very, very basic economic principals of Capitalism remain outside your abilities.

We will continue to attempt to educate your kind.

Anonymous said...

Lyndon Johnson was the President I qouted, attacking the US Press.

COMMIE said...

KD said...
Lyndon Johnson was the President I quoted, attacking the US Press.


That certainly does not help your case of making you smart.....stupid is again an apt description of your bias....Nice try to blame others for your inanity....lOLOLOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I woke up to see over 50 dead. Prayers for the people.

Commonsense said...

It was a well planned, well executed attack. There was nothing random about it.

Including the target choice.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I know that. OMG

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The bravery of the people is amazing.

Anonymous said...

It was a well planned, well executed attack. There was nothing random about it.

Including the target choice.
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yup.

the left will be rejoicing today. a bunch or trump-loving, red state rednecks got shot.

the stuff that liberal dreams are made of.

Anonymous said...

This is pure evil.

The Police took a heavy toll, two dead, 5 injuried.

Report they , the police "made targets" of themselves, so others cold live.

commie said...

WHY I hate all polls.....Scotus may finally decide

Gill v. Whitford is straightforward enough: After taking control of Wisconsin’s Legislature and State Capitol in 2010, Republicans used computer models and voting data to redraw political boundaries in the Assembly, the Legislature’s lower house. The map cemented the Republican majority in place. In the three elections since, Democrats have never won more than 39 of the 99 seats, even when they won a majority of the votes cast statewide for Assembly candidates.

From NYT's I imagine floriduh is very similar

commie said...

Automatic weapon.....could be bump fire stocks that can be bought for 99 bucks......convert AR to auto weapon...search you tube for examples.....

Anonymous said...

All of us are talking about the death of the people murdered and injuried.


((( HB ,,, is using ""I"" twice, what a self center asshole)).

Anonymous said...

No thanks.

The people killed, injuried and survivors are what matters now.

Pray for ALL LIVES, they all matter.

The first responders , especially the COPS.

Commonsense said...

From NYT's I imagine floriduh is very similar

Certainly New York and California are.

commie said...


((( HB ,,, is using ""I"" twice, what a self center asshole)).

And what are you posting stumpy.....your WARMEST condolences....can't fix you or being stupid......

commie said...

Certainly New York and California are.

OK....it all needs to be fixed.....if true.....No doubt about floriduh though......

commie said...


Our POTUS needs constant applause...from the NY Daily News... just like our stumpy.....

No one chases a cheer harder than President Donald J. Trump, and the PGA Tour knows this. Consider Sunday’s scene: Trump is up on the third floor of Liberty National’s clubhouse, inside the Commissioner's Hospitality, for the final round of the Presidents Cup. Overlooking the 14th hole, Trump, in a dark suit with an open-collared shirt sans tie, eyed the golfers as they approached the green. He watched them putt, applauded them, waved and continued to eye them as they walked by.

No acknowledgements followed.

Two American players strolled past unaware of his presence. Enter Tyler Dennis, the senior vice president for tour competitions. He wore a pink tie and dark shades as he hustled over to the rough, standing by a rope that led to the cart path. He started tipping off the players as they departed the green en route to the 15th hole.

“Give him a wave,” Dennis told American golfer Dustin Johnson.
Johnson abided. Trump nodded.
“Hey guys, the President’s up there in the corner, if you could….” Dennis told Kevin Kisner.
Kisner acquiesced. Trump clapped.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Four months ago today, I got the liver transplant at UCLA. My good feelings are dampened by the tragedy in Las Vegas last night. My prayers for the victims and their families.

Anonymous said...

The deaths of the men and woman in blue are always first.

Reports, Blue Lives Matter, stood to make themselves the target of the shooter. You can not teach that kind of selflessness and bravery.

Want to select Hero - stand for and with the thin Blue Line.

Commonsense said...

OK....it all needs to be fixed...

I don't think SCOTUS's ruling is going to be a happy one for you.

The Constitution give great deference to the state legislatures with regard the elections of representatives and the choosing of senators.

It is also silent on the drawing of district lines. In fact a state could chose all it's representatives at large if it chooses.

However case law says that if districts are used then they have to be roughly equivalent in population. ((One-man one-vote principle)

That is the only "constitutional" requirement.

The voter's rights act however requires the drawing of majority-minority districts to insure minority representation and the GOP has use the act to isolate the Democrats into one or two districts. (This is a law that has backfired on the Democrats).

There has never been a case where a "protected class" was created based on political affiliation.

And I don't think this SCOTUS will go there.

Commonsense said...

Two American players strolled past unaware of his presence. Enter Tyler Dennis, the senior vice president for tour competitions. He wore a pink tie and dark shades as he hustled over to the rough, standing by a rope that led to the cart path. He started tipping off the players as they departed the green en route to the 15th hole.

“Give him a wave,” Dennis told American golfer Dustin Johnson.
Johnson abided. Trump nodded.


If it was president Obama the same thing would have happen and the media would have never made an issue of it.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Four months ago today, I got the liver transplant at UCLA. My good feelings are dampened by the tragedy in Las Vegas last night. My prayers for the victims and their families.
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boy, you are a fucking piece of work.

the worst mass shooting in the history of our country, and you have to make it all about YOU.

what an asshole.


Anonymous said...

If it was president Obama the same thing would have happen and the media would have never made an issue of it.
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not only that, but each american player would be REQUIRED to kiss the ring.

Myballs said...

I have relatives that live in Las Vegas and listen to country music. If not for the fact that my cousin had surgery last week, they probably would have been there.

Commonsense said...

ISIS claims responsibility. Official are skeptical of that claim.

commie said...

rathole opined....
boy, you are a fucking piece of work.


you sure are asshole!!!!!

COMMIE said...


If it was president Obama the same thing would have happen


Sure menstral,whatever you say!!!!!! LOLOLOL

commie said...

MENSTRAL THE CHILD....posted


I don't think SCOTUS's ruling is going to be a happy one for you

Ah our clairvoyant child predicts....LOL.....Or maybe disappointment for you!!!!`

Commonsense said...

Given the current makeup of the court you don't have to be that clairvoyant.

commie said...

That was for the worker to decide.

WTF are you talking about, asswipe???? Slave wages are the job creators lining their pockets with others hard work. But they will get the lions share of any tax breaks...Perfect for idiots like you who will get shit...LOLOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In memory of the fallen, I have directed that our great flag be flown at half-staff. I will be visiting Las Vegas on Wednesday to meet with law enforcement, first responders, and the families of the victims. In moments of tragedy and horror, America comes together as one. And it always has.

We call upon the bonds that unite us, our faith, our family, and our shared values. We call upon the bonds of citizenship, the ties of community, and the comfort of our common humanity. Our unity cannot be shattered by evil, our bonds cannot be broken by violence, and though we feel such great anger, at the senseless murder of our fellow citizens, it is our love that defines us today. And always will. Forever.

In times such as these, I know we are searching for some kind of meaning in the chaos, some kind of light in the darkness. The answers do not come easy. But we can take solace knowing that even the darkest space can be brightened by a single light and even the most terrible despair can be illuminated by a single ray of hope.

Melania and I are praying for every American who has been hurt, wounded or lost the ones they loved so dearly in this terrible, terrible attack. We pray for the entire nation to find unity and peace, and we pray for the day when evil is banished and the innocent are safe from hatred and from fear.

May God bless the souls of the lives that are lost, may God give us the grace of healing and may God provide the grieving families with strength to carry on. Thank you. God bless America. Thank you.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

No. You are.

Commonsense said...

The workers work for the highest wage an employee is willing to offer.

The employee offers the lowest wage the worker is willing to work for.

That's how markets work.

It's not that complicated.

commie said...


The workers work for the highest wage an employee is willing to offer.

So slave wages are okay in your cultist world......IOW's....get rid of the minimum wage laws...who needs them since the owner will always do the right thing....Dayum you are dumber than I thought....get rid of OSHA also since owners are always concerned about workers safety....or overtime laws....get rid of all of them since they always can be counted on doing the correct thing.... LOLOLOL

It's not that complicated.

Simple minds like yours are the reason trump won....Sure menstral....

Commonsense said...

So slave wages are okay in your cultist world..

If a worker is willing to work for a particular wage then it's not a slave wage.

Slavery involves compulsion. This is not compulsion.

Now if you want to have an example of a real slave wage take the 64 dollars a month stipend Cuban doctors get while working in Brazil.

The Brazilians pay the Cuban government thousands of dollars a month for each Doctor's services.

However, the Cuban doctors never see this money. They are paid way below market prices for their services and they have no power to negotiate a better salary.

They are compelled to work for money way below their market value.

Now that's slavery.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Commonsense said...

Not sure why Roger deleted his post.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Republicans are opposed to workers to the right to organise and work together and negotiate the wages and benefits for the labor.

Ever since the Reagan administration, for various reasons, with the exception of the construction labor unions have been weakened to the point, that most of the time, the individual working Americans, have been forced to work for what is offered, they no longer have been able to get increased wages and benefits. The flight control strike, broken by Reagan, was a major factor in the decreasing ability to organize and work together to negotiate wages and benefits.

This is a major factor, why the working class people has been unable to keep up with the top 1%, who, in large part, compliments of the Citizens United decision giving corporations equal rights as citizens.

The only unions that have been able to negotiate reasonable wages and benefits, are in the construction industry. Despite that some of the idiots here, doesn't understand that construction is highly complicated, and increasing sophisticated as the newest requirements for both structural and electrical engineering and all the other trades, requires much more than swinging a hammer. So even in "right to work for less" states, the construction unions have been able to keep the wages and benefits up to speed.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I had an error, I corrected it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I will open a post on the evil event in Law Vegas on the Legacy blog.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You have to get past the rrb infected brain cells post.

I have a video and the transcript of the President speech.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
I will open a post on the evil event in Law Vegas on the Legacy blog.
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if your goal is to completely hide a post, that would be the place.

Anonymous said...

Should have remain delete, it is void of facts, economic reasoning and financial reality.

A person's choices are simple work or hammock.

Anonymous said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Associates of President Trump and his company have turned over documents to federal investigators that reveal two previously unreported contacts from Russia during the 2016 campaign, according to people familiar with the matter.

In one case, Trump’s personal attorney and a business associate exchanged emails weeks before the Republican National Convention about traveling to an economic conference in Russia that would be attended by top Russian financial and government leaders, including President Vladi­mir Putin, according to people familiar with the correspondence.

In the other case, the same Trump attorney, Michael Cohen, received a proposal in late 2015 for a Moscow residential project from a company founded by a billionaire who once served in the Russian Senate, these people said. The previously unreported inquiry marks the second proposal for a Trump-branded Moscow project that was delivered to the company during the presidential campaign and has since come to light.

Cohen declined the invitation to the economic conference, citing the difficulty of attending so close to the GOP convention, according to people familiar with the matter. And Cohen rejected the Moscow building plan.

Nonetheless, the information about the interactions has been provided to congressional committees as well as special counsel Robert S. Mueller III as they investigate whether Trump associates coordinated with Russian efforts to interfere in the U.S. election, according to people familiar with the inquiries who, like others cited in this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the inquiry.

Details of the communications were turned over by the Trump Organization in recent days to the White House, defense lawyers and government investigators and described to The Washington Post.

Though there is no evidence that these Russia-related entreaties resulted in further action, the email communications about them show that Trump’s inner circle continued receiving requests from Russians deep into the presidential campaign.

After WikiLeaks began to publish emails from the Democratic National Committee that were widely believed to have been hacked at the direction of Moscow, Trump said on several occasions that he had no financial ties to Russia. In July 2016, he tweeted: “for the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia.”

But the new disclosures add to an emerging picture in which Trump’s business and campaign were repeatedly contacted by Russians with interests in business and politics. Trump’s son, son-in-law, campaign chairman, low-level foreign policy advisers and, now, Cohen, one of his closest business confidants, all fielded such inquiries in the weeks before or after Trump accepted the nomination.

The documents also underscore the Trump company’s long-standing interest in doing business in Moscow.

commie said...

If a worker is willing to work for a particular wage then it's not a slave wage.

Ted an idiot and your cuban comparison proves what other than you are a moron.....

Anonymous said...

US Manufacturing up past the lost years

commie said...

Another who thinks his shit don't stink.....

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke’s taxpayer-funded flights on private planes have attracted the attention of federal investigators, who are now investigating whether they were a legitimate government expense.

The department’s Office of Inspector General launched an investigation following news reports late last week that revealed a $12,375 flight Zinke chartered from Las Vegas to an airport near his home in Montana, where he spent the night.

The inspector general's investigation began Friday, the same day Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price was forced to resign amid a public outcry over his use of private planes at taxpayer expense.

He should resign also.....but will get a pass because it wasn't too bad......idiots

Anonymous said...

Opie, what was the average starting wage you paid your employees?

commie said...

Blogger KD said...
Opie, what was the average starting wage you paid your employees?

Don't know and couldn't care less......still stupid after all these years, stumpy....What do you do for work other than posting here and looking stupid?????

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