Friday, November 16, 2018

Judge rules for CNN and Acosta... sort of

Grants Temporary Restraining Order, ruling the Acosta was not afforded due process in the revocation.
Based on reports from reporters in the media room, it appears that the Judge ruled that while the White House doesn’t have to allow any reporters into the White House, by setting up a credentialing process it owes people like Acosta due process.
So in a nutshell, the ruling apparently suggests that the White House would have to actually create a set of standards that the Press must abide by, as well as forum for dealing with who does and does not get credentials, and or under what circumstances those credentials can be removed.  They would then have to provide a forum to anyone accused of violating those standards, to make sure that they are given "due process".

Perhaps it should all come with a shiny framed certificate of acceptance as well?

However, the judge did suggest that there is no legal requirement of the President or the Press Secretary to actually call on Acosta, nor did the Judge suggest that Acosta has any actual right to ask questions. He would simply have the right to keep his press pass at this time and allowed to be in the room.

The transcripts have yet to be released. Once they are, I am sure there will be more analysis regarding what this means.

One thing is for sure... look for Acosta to be twice the pain in the ass as he already is...

27 comments:

Myballs said...

Sitting in the last row

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Kelly made his ruling on the basis of CNN and Acosta's Fifth Amendment claims, saying the White House did not provide Acosta with the due process required to legally revoke his press pass.

He left open the possibility, however, that the White House could seek to revoke it again if it provided that due process, emphasizing the "very limited" nature of his ruling and saying he was not making a judgment on the First Amendment claims that CNN and Acosta have made.

Kelly was appointed to the bench by Trump last year, and confirmed with bipartisan support in the Senate.


Acosta spoke briefly outside the court and thanked his colleagues in the press who supported the lawsuit. "Let's get back to work," he said.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Due process

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Probably an angry tweet.

anonymous said...

.. look for Acosta to be twice the pain in the ass as he already is...


'm rooting for 4 times the pain in donnie's ass.....at least he stands up to the asshole in chief unlike you CH who have prostituted yourself in donnie's ways like a good little sycophant who lost his mind....

Anonymous said...



One thing is for sure... look for Acosta to be twice the pain in the ass as he already is...


not necessarily.

sanders needs to freeze him out HARD.

and when he does lose his shit she needs to say, i'm sorry mr. acosta, but this is a white house press briefing, and not the jim acosta show. plus, i don't speak preening asshole."

let him take the white house back to court for not being called upon to ask a question. THAT will get him AND cnn laughed out of court.

Anonymous said...



thanks for yet another unnecessary copy/paste, alky.

not having to scroll through those when you were back in rehab was refreshing.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I was not in rehab .

I had a surgical repair of my abdomen. I had two hernias bulging out from previous surgeries.

The doctor reconnects the abdominal muscles. The staples were removed yesterday. My abdomen is flat now.

This was the final procedure necessary to repair the damage caused by two previous surgeries.

The entire procedure cost far less than you wish.

I'm clean and sober. Unlike you I am not an angry old racist.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Fact Checker Analysis
Fact-checking President Trump’s wild Daily Caller interview
Fact-checking Trump's claims on voter fraud
There were a lot of subjects subject to presidential misinformation in Trump's Daily Caller interview. Here's a look at the voter fraud claims. (Meg Kelly/The Washington Post)


By Glenn Kessler
November 16 at 3:00 AM
President Trump’s Nov. 14 interview with the Daily Caller had prompted much head-scratching with his comment that an ID — he said “voter ID” — is needed to buy cereal. But there were many other dubious statements in his lengthy interview, some of which we have fact-checked as part of our database on Trump’s false and misleading claims. Here’s a quick roundup of the president’s most notable errors of fact, in the order in which he made them.

“You know, it’s very interesting, because when you talk about not Senate confirmed, well, [special counsel Robert] Mueller’s not Senate confirmed. He’s heading this whole big thing; he’s not Senate confirmed.”

Trump is responding to assertions that he violated the Constitution by appointing the Justice Department’s chief of staff, Matthew G. Whitaker, as acting attorney general. The chief of staff post is not subject to Senate confirmation, unlike the deputy attorney general, who ordinarily would fill the vacancy.


But there is no expectation that a special counsel would be subject to Senate confirmation, as he is an “inferior officer” who reports to someone who has been confirmed. (The former attorney general, Jeff Sessions, had recused himself, so Mueller previously had reported to the deputy attorney general.)

In other words, Trump’s point is nonsensical.

“I’m building the wall in smaller stages, and we moved the military there, we put up barbed wire, we did all sorts of things.”

No, Trump’s wall is not yet being built. Congress inserted specific language in its appropriations bill that none of the $1.57 billion appropriated for border protection may be used for prototypes of a concrete wall that Trump observed while in California. The money can be used only for bollard fencing and levee fencing. Trump regularly makes this false claim — at last count, more than 80 times.


“You have 17 people — half, many of them worked for Hillary Clinton, some on the foundation. The Hillary Clinton Foundation.”

This is false, as we have documented previously. Five members of the Mueller team contributed to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign. One of those people, attorney Jeannie Rhee, represented the Clinton Foundation in a 2015 lawsuit over Clinton’s use of her private email server. Aaron Zebley, a former counterterrorism FBI agent and assistant U.S. attorney, made no contributions to Clinton but represented a Clinton aide at one point.

In other words, no member of the Mueller team worked for Hillary Clinton and only one had a connection to the Clinton Foundation.


“We’ve really, you know, terminated a lot of the Obamacare, as it was referred to.”

The 2017 Trump tax bill, starting in 2019, effectively eliminates the mandate that required people to pay a penalty if they chose not to buy health insurance. (A waiver was available for people under a certain income level.) The penalty must still be paid in 2017 and 2018.

Other than the individual mandate, Trump has not “terminated a lot of Obamacare.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is a problem in California that’s so bad of illegals voting. This is a California problem, and if you notice, almost every race — I was watching today — out of like 11 races that are in question, they’re going to win all of them. The Republicans don’t win, and that’s because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I’ve been saying for a long time.”


Trump, without evidence, suggests that the slow process of counting California’s mail-in ballots means that undocumented immigrants are casting votes. He has never given an explanation as to why the late votes that are counted would be from undocumented immigrants. There is no evidence that undocumented immigrants are voting in California in vast numbers, let alone enough to swing an election.

Voter fraud is extremely rare, though obviously errors can be made. California’s Department of Motor Vehicles acknowledged in October that 1,500 people may have been incorrectly registered because of a processing error — including at least one noncitizen (a legal resident, not an undocumented immigrant). The incorrect registrations were canceled before the election.

“I’ve seen it, I’ve had friends talk about it when people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles. Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace, what’s going on.”


Trump claims he has seen this sort of voter fraud. We highly doubt it. Perhaps it came in a dream?

At least 34 states have laws requesting or requiring voters to show some form of identification at the polls, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. So not only would a fraudster need a new hat and shirt, but also phony IDs that match records of registered voters. It is difficult to imagine how such a scheme could be implemented on a vast scale.

“If you look at what happened in New Hampshire, where thousands of people came up and voted from a very liberal part of Massachusetts, and they came up in buses and they voted. I said, ‘What’s going on over here?’ My people said, ‘You won New Hampshire easily, except they have tremendous numbers of buses coming up.’ They’re pouring up by the hundreds, buses of people getting out, voting. Then they’re supposed to go back within 90 days. And of the people that are supposed to go back, almost none of them do. In other words, they go back after the vote is over. They go back — and I think it’s like 3 percent — I mean, almost nobody goes back to show that, you know, that they were allowed to vote.”

This is another fantasy that has been repeatedly debunked. The New Hampshire attorney general’s office investigated this claim after complaints of out-of-state busing in 2014 and found no evidence that out-of-state voters were ever bused into the state to shift the outcome. Instead, some colleges in the state had hired out-of-state buses to help ferry college students to the polls. In other words, the bus company might have been from Vermont, but not the voters on the bus. After the state asked that in-state buses be used, there were no complaints in 2016 — except from the Trump White House after the president narrowly lost the state to Clinton.

When Trump aide Stephen Miller made a similar claim in 2017, Tom Rath, a former New Hampshire attorney general and prominent Republican in the state, tweeted this after Miller’s comments:

Let me as be unequivocal as possible-allegations of voter fraud in NH are baseless,without any merit-it's shameful to spread these fantasies


Anonymous said...




an even better idea than freezing him out:

"Here's an idea. Give Acosta back his press pass. Next time (& every time) Acosta grandstands... End the press conference. Immediately. Until Acosta's journalist colleagues (whom he disrespects by hogging time showboating), peer pressure him into behaving like an adult."

—Liz Wheeler


that's the way to do it. at the first glimpse of acosta going full asshole, slam the briefing binder closed and say "we're done here" and walk out.

let acosta's peer reap what he's sewn.

Anonymous said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

Fact Checker Analysis



all well and good rehab boy, but until trump wrestles the crown of LIE OF THE YEAR away from 0linsky, this is just kessler being an asshat, and you parroting his asshattery.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“If you look at what happened in New Hampshire, where thousands of people came up and voted from a very liberal part of Massachusetts, and they came up in buses and they voted. I said, ‘What’s going on over here?’ My people said, ‘You won New Hampshire easily, except they have tremendous numbers of buses coming up.’ They’re pouring up by the hundreds, buses of people getting out, voting. Then they’re supposed to go back within 90 days. And of the people that are supposed to go back, almost none of them do. In other words, they go back after the vote is over. They go back — and I think it’s like 3 percent — I mean, almost nobody goes back to show that, you know, that they were allowed to vote.”


This is another fantasy that has been repeatedly debunked. The New Hampshire attorney general’s office investigated this claim after complaints of out-of-state busing in 2014 and found no evidence that out-of-state voters were ever bused into the state to shift the outcome. Instead, some colleges in the state had hired out-of-state buses to help ferry college students to the polls. In other words, the bus company might have been from Vermont, but not the voters on the bus. After the state asked that in-state buses be used, there were no complaints in 2016 — except from the Trump White House after the president narrowly lost the state to Clinton.

When Trump aide Stephen Miller made a similar claim in 2017, Tom Rath, a former New Hampshire attorney general and prominent Republican in the state, tweeted this after Miller’s comments:

He's acting like Nixon when Watergate was closing in. Even worse is that he actually believes what he says. Nixon was very calculated in his comments. Trump just flat out lies. And knows that his base will not be disturbed by his lying.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/16/fact-checking-president-trumps-wild-daily-caller-interview/?utm_term=.f079e2ccecef

Anonymous said...


friend of yours, alky? you're both drunks suffering from chronic TDS and all. and he's stolen your lines and everything...



The first act of “Fiddler on the Roof,” one of the most popular American musicals, which is performed frequently across the country, had just ended at the Hippodrome Theater in Baltimore on Wednesday night. The Russians had staged a pogrom against the Jewish residents of a village — an organized act of ethnic persecution — storming a wedding celebration.

Connor Drew and his girlfriend had just stepped into the lobby after the house lights went up when he heard a disturbance in the upper balcony.

There was shouting. In a display that shocked audience members, a man stood up and yelled “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump” repeatedly during the intermission, according to several witnesses.

[...]

Late Thursday, the Baltimore police identified the man as Anthony M. Derlunas II, 58. According to the police report, Mr. Derlunas said he had been “drinking heavily throughout the night.” He told officers he yelled the slogans because the final scene before intermission reminded him of his hatred for President Trump. According to the officer, Mr. Derlunas went on to say that the anger directed at him after his disruption was an indication of a high number of Mr. Trump’s supporters in the theater. Mr. Derlunas could not be reached for comment.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/theater/fiddler-on-the-roof-heil-hitler-heil-trump.html


Anonymous said...




And knows that his base will not be disturbed by his lying.


well alky, that's because to us, what trump "lies" about is a pimple on a gnat's ass. no big deal by any measure.

contrast trump's "lies" to 0linsky's LIES, where family finances were ruined, perfectly good healthcare insurance was taken away, and doctors were saddled with a mountain of administrative work that had absolutely fucking NOTHING to do with caring for the sick.

in other words, trump's lies, while amusing, harm no one.

0linsky's LIES otoh, caused demonstrable damage to the country and its citizens. damage that, to this day, many have yet to recover from.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Btw another Democrat 33 seats gained in the house.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This passes for intelligent discussion as our formerly esteemed host?

0linsky's LIES otoh, caused demonstrable damage to the country and its citizens. damage that, to this day, many have yet to recover from.

Anonymous said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

This passes for intelligent discussion as our formerly esteemed host?



asks the assclown whose sole contribution to this blog are the copied and pasted thoughts and opinions of others.

perhaps you were released from rehab just a tad too soon, eh alky?



Anonymous said...




maggie haberman went full LIAR again today -


Is Mike Pence Loyal? Trump is Asking, Despite His Recent Endorsement


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/politics/mike-pence-trump-administration.html

Anonymous said...

not having to scroll through those when you were back in rehab was refreshing."

Yes it was.

Anonymous said...

Gas prices are in a step decline.
According to obamanonics we are now in a recession.

Fact Checker said...

Claim: Roger Amick said...
I was not in rehab

Fact Checker: four pinocchios

Roger was too inebriated to recall where he was

James said...

White House Ordered to Return Acosta’s Press Pass

A federal judge granted CNN’s request for a court order that would temporarily reinstate network correspondent Jim Acosta’s White House press pass, which had been suspended indefinitely in the wake of a fiery exchange between the reporter and President Trump a week earlier, CNBC reports.

Axios: “In his ruling, Judge Timothy Kelly is setting a precedent that future White House administrations and other elected officials need clear evidence of a security threat or operational burden created by reporters’ actions in order to have the justification to revoke a press pass.”
___________

IOW, Donald, this ain't Russia and you ain't Putin.

Anonymous said...



Washington Secrets

2020: Re-election support for Trump higher than it was for Obama

Anonymous said...

jon gabriel‏

I'm suing for press credentials to the next 5 Super Bowls. I will not have my rights abridged!

Anonymous said...

Sub $2 a gallon gas in 6 mid West States.