However, as an overall public relations move, this one is a no brainer. Over the past week or so we have been seeing a groundswell of support for some form of compromise. Just this morning another editorial (this one from the Dallas Morning news) called for just this sort of compromise solution.
Certainly the President argues in his book that the first one to blink loses. But I think negotiating in private (when you are both willing to step away) is different than negotiating in public, when an eventual deal must eventually happen. So rather than seeing this as a "blink" one might consider this as a strategic move to help reset the entire narrative of the shut down.
Once the deal has been offered, there will be no way to put that genie back in the bottle. It will immediately become the starting point moving forward and there will be no way to really get completely back to "total impasse". To be perfectly clear, Pelosi and the Democrats want total impasse. Total impasse they can blame on the President being unwilling to give in on his wall.
But a deal sitting out on the table that provides them with tangible policy wins that their core constituency has been asking for, is a hard deal to pass over because you want to deny the President funding for a southern barrier that Democrats themselves have previously supported.
It's said that the Democratic response will be to up the total amount of the border security investment by about a billion dollars, but with the caveat that it cannot be used to build any sort of southern border barrier. But pretty much everyone will know that this is not a serious counteroffer. It's little more than a stubborn and unreasonable demand for full surrender from the President and the GOP.
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Trump is boxing the Democrats in.
Axios
President Trump plans to use remarks from the Diplomatic Reception Room on Saturday afternoon to propose a notable immigration compromise, according to sources familiar with the speech.
Details: The offer is expected to include Trump’s $5.7 billion demand for wall money in exchange for the BRIDGE Act — which would extend protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) — and also legislation to extend the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders, according to a source with direct knowledge.
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Jared Kushner and Mike Pence have led the crafting of this deal and the negotiations with members, according to White House officials. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told reporters he had proposed the idea of a DACA-TPS swap to Trump in December, and that the president called it "interesting."
The backdrop: A source privy to the negotiations told me the inflection point for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was the letter from Nancy Pelosi telling Trump not to deliver the State of the Union. McConnell had been saying all along that Pelosi and Trump needed to negotiate because one needed to put a bill on the House floor and one needed to sign it — two people with singular power.
But after Pelosi’s letter, the source said, it became clear to McConnell she was “never going to get off her position and some other spark needed to happen.”
McConnell told the president that it was his view that Pelosi was never going to move. She would and could not negotiate on border funding because of her caucus, and Trump needed to be the one to put something forward he would sign so that McConnell would have the presidential backing to bring it to the floor.
He is attempting to reshape the dispute.
If he angers the usual suspects, he will change his mind by Tuesday morning Twitter storm.
The military calls it "shaping the battlefield".
Don't forget that you have been supportive of the President who was a birther for 6 years
The infrastructure comments are probably part of the proposal. The Democrats may reply "bridges not walls". That's a mistake.
When pelosi rejects it, Trump will then have justification to do something more drastic and unilateral. He's telling her, take this deal, it's the best you'll get.
Vacation Barbie Polosi position is "No" red line "$0.00".
RRB , roasted Beaners.
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/01/19/graphic-66-killed-dozens-injured-in-fuel-theft-explosion-in-mexico/
Roger your post shows that President Trump is leading from the front. Ty.
His approval rating on the CBS poll shows it at 39%.
He's losing control of his base.
The comment from the Muller investigation team was shot holes into the Deep State Conspiracy theory.
They President didn't even consult with Pelosi and Chuck. The Dream act is going away later this year and thousands will be loaded onto trains for the concentration camps.
President Donald Trump is expected to propose a broad immigration compromise intended to restart negotiations over the month-long government shutdown, but Democrats began shooting down the proposal before the president even put the offer on the table.
Details of Trump’s proposal will come in remarks at 4 p.m. from the White House’s Diplomatic Reception Room. They’re likely to include increased protection for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals recipients and an extension of Temporary Protected Status for the refugees who hold it, though sources cautioned that the details have yet to be finalized and could change at the last minute.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/19/trump-government-shutdown-deal-1116049
Doesn't sound like Trump is ordering the trains for the concentration camps there Roger.
You're such a drama queen.
Coulter is already mad about the President offering amnesty for the Dreamers.
Pelosi rejects Trump's amnesty deal bc it fails to "restore certainty to people's lives.” You want certainty? "You broke our immigration laws. We're deporting you. For certain."
Pelosi should be panicking now.
The concentration camp comment is no different than the racist rodent bastard beaner killer.
Trump will change his mind by Tuesday morning, like I said before.
Rush Limbaugh and Hannity will get pissed off.
He's late now.
He's been reading Twitter
Roger Amick said...
The concentration camp comment is no different than the racist rodent bastard beaner killer.
Are you fucking kidding?
One actually happened you stupid fuck
Geraldo Rivera
At what point in fairness-after 2 years do Americans of good will say enough already? If the #SpecialCounsel had collusion don’t you think we would have heard it by now? This is history’s longest running smear job. Free @realDonaldTrump Reflect. Negotiate. Open the government.
First lie
No discrimination for "worship".
He tried to ban Muslims from being allowed to enter the country.
Now it's the child rape
We can stop heroin use the ports of entry.
Killer immigrants
One way or another?
We have the political armour
No one is calling for open borders.
Lies and lies and bigotry
The wall could reduce criminal charges by 50 percent.
Three year extension is a good idea.
McConnell said he will let the senate vote on the immigration reform legislation.
Steal wall.
Rape and murder.
No real changes
Steel walls
He's a terrible negotiator.
I prefer concrete. But compromise.
Roger vs Roger
Both are losers.
IF Pres. Trump stayed as rock ridged as Vacation Barbie Polosi , you would fault him.
Since President Trump is and has showed some flexibility, you fault him.
Are there TWO Roger Imadick accounts?
Or is Roger bi-polar?
Except for the angry left, the rest of the country has had about enough of Pelosi stonewalling everything. Now trump has the high ground. Even freshman dems, who want to get to other legislation, are quickly getting fed up with her.
RockPrincess@Rockprincess818
There is not an American citizen watching this speech that does not think this is a fair compromise.
Art of the Deal - Negotiate in public.
Democrats are now officially backed into a corner.
Every week the Democrats position will get weaker
If they don't accept when the president decides they have completely buried themselves by digging in too long he will declare the national emergency and build the wall and re-open government
Master negotiator and politician
Yep.
Roger is only a parrot of the vacation Barbie Polosi Talking Points.
You see above how vapid his posts are when he post using his pickled brain.
"NO" is not a real world Negotiation point.
Neither is "$0.00"
So what is Chuck in Nancy counter offer?
I told you so!
Ann Coulter blasts Trump shutdown compromise: ‘We voted for Trump and got Jeb!’
He will change his mind by Tuesday morning Twitter Storm warning
I made my comments live
Roger is sure trying to divert attention away from Pelosi.
Doesn't work.
Lol, "live feed".
What a drag queen, the High School beat the man out of you alky.
What was Vacation Barbie Polosi response?
Got that "live feed" drag queen Roger
BuzzFeed Doubles Down on Report
January 19, 2019 at 3:12 pm EST
BuzzFeed News “has doubled down on their bombshell report” on President Trump purportedly directing Michael Cohen to lie to Congress, according to Mediaite.
From a statement: “As we’ve re-confirmed our reporting, we’ve seen no indication that any specific aspect of our story is inaccurate. We remain confident in what we’ve reported, and will share more as we are able.”
Democrats Dismiss Trump Shutdown Offer
January 19, 2019 at 2:53 pm EST
Even before President Trump’s shutdown remarks on Saturday, Democratic aides on the Hill were dismissing his planned shutdown compromise offer as inadequate, Axios reports.
Said one Democratic aide: “Dems were not consulted on this and have rejected similar overtures previously.”
Said another: “Similar inadequate offers from the Administration were already rejected by Democrats.”
New York Times: “Lawmakers also said Ms. Pelosi was livid about being forced to cancel a trip to Afghanistan and Brussels after the president denied her use of a military plane and then scuttled her attempt to fly commercially by publicly revealing her travel plans.”
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Pelosi Rejects Trump’s Shutdown Proposal
January 19, 2019 at 4:00 pm
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) called reports of a deal to be proposed by President Trump to end a record-long partial government shutdown a “non-starter,” The Hill reports.
Said Pelosi: Democrats were hopeful that the President was finally willing to re-open government… Unfortunately, initial reports make clear that his proposal is a compilation of several previously rejected initiatives, each of which is unacceptable and in total, do not represent a good faith effort to restore certainty to people’s lives.”
She added: “It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House, and taken together, they are a non-starter.”
So she paints herself further in her corner.
What is her plan?
Exactly 《《 crickets》》
Trump Divides Republicans with New Border Proposal
President Trump “broke a fundamental rule of modern politics Saturday when he outlined a new plan to get his border wall and re-open the federal government: Never split your own party,” NBC News reports.
“The basic idea is to give 1 million immigrants — 700,000 so-called Dreamers who were brought to the country illegally as children and 300,000 refugees facing expiration of their ‘temporary protected status’ — a three-year shield from deportation in exchange for $5.7 billion in funding for the wall.”
“While Republican leaders on Capitol Hill praised his leadership, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, readily agreed to bring his proposal up for a vote on the floor next week, conservatives were quick to criticize the president for offering “amnesty” to undocumented immigrants.”
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New York Times: “Immigrant advocates denounced it as cruel. The conservative right howled that it was amnesty.”
Rove Warns Senate GOP Not to Only Focus on Base
“Former White House political strategist Karl Rove warned Senate Republicans in a meeting this week not to become overly reliant on their conservative base as they head into what could be a tough 2020 presidential election,” The Hill reports.
Water is wet
I could kick your ass if you said anything like that to me.
I haven't been watching much about the President and the speech.
I didn't think that he got what he wanted. The fact that he didn't even comment on the almost one million Americans who are not getting paid is disgusting.
Gallup poll found his approval rating was down to 39%. He angered many conservatives. He's not going to get the wall.
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- President Donald Trump's latest job approval rating is 37% in the midst of what is now the longest running government shutdown in the U.S. His prior approval rating, from before Christmas, was 39%. While Trump's rating has been little affected by the shutdown, it is the first time his approval rating has been 37% or lower since February.
Line graph. Trump’s job approval rating is now 37%, compared with 39% before the government shutdown.
The latest results are based on a Jan. 2-10 Gallup poll. The federal government shutdown began on Dec. 22 after Trump and congressional leaders failed to pass a continuing budget resolution. That came as the Congress refused to authorize Trump's request of more than $5 billion to construct a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
Currently, 59% of Americans disapprove of the job Trump is doing, up from 55% before Christmas. However, his disapproval rating had been similar to today's level in November, reaching 60% after the midterm elections.
Moderates like Susan Collins and Mitt Romney have come out in support of Trump's compromise offer, calling it reasonable, good faith and legitimate.
Pelosi and Schumer are being recognized by the country as unreasonable and obstinate.
Exactly 《crickets》
If youndont like Trumps reasonable compromise , then detail the Vacation Barbie Polosi Plan?
"NO"
"$0.00"
Is not a plan.
calling it reasonable, good faith and legitimate.
If you are an R!!!!!! Coulter called him Jeb!!!!! LOL
That's my point. The far left and far right don't like it. Moderates do. That's why it's a good, reasonable, fair offer at compromise.
Moderates do.
Now you are speaking for others....typical of losing positions....LOLOLOL''' I'm moderate and think the deal sucks trumps dick more than you......
Romney is no moderate...he is ultra right conservative....
Now you are speaking for others....typical of losing positions....LOLOLOL''' I'm moderate and think the deal sucks trumps dick more than you...…
Speak for yourself about sucking dicks
Speak for yourself about sucking dicks
Sure....go enjoy donnie's massive member....LOLOLOLOL
As you said lo iq, speak for yourself
ROFLMFAO !!!
ROFLMFAO !!!
Your life must be one big laughing at the world, another sign of sucking trumps dick dry.....LOLOLOL
Romney was the father of Obama Care in very liberal Massachusetts. He's a moderate and you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Oh dear, Mr. President. Your DACA deal offer has angered Anne Coulter. Better backtrack fast. FAST!
What James, nothing on the sure impeachment based on the buzzfeed story? Where's that gloating James.
Didn't you say it's sure fire thing?
Suprised you dared show your face for the mockery you so richly deserve.
Kellyanne Conway
Dear Media Types,
Your job is to get the story,
not get the President.
If you dove into #buzzfeed headfirst yesterday, you own it, too. “If true” was a faint murmur
“Impeach” was said 200x on CNN & MSNBC
The 3 networks devoted 27 minutes to it
Maybe just apologize?
If you want proof the media learned absolutely nothing from Buzzfeed episode, watch how they handle the Covington HS story. They will believe anything, regurgitate any unproven or sketchy narrative, to ridicule Trump and his supporters. This includes helping to destroy children.
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