Saturday, November 16, 2019

EVEN CNN SAYS I AM RIGHT!!!

Democrats Concede Their Impeachment Argument Is Failing
CNN reports that in a private meeting this week, top Democrats conceded that the polls on impeachment were unlikely to shift, and that their basic message is failing to break through for huge swaths of Americans. This is very close to admitting that their ultimate goal, of removing president Trump from office will not be achieved.

Their basic "message" requires the American public to ignore several damaging realities, anyone of them basically damning their hopes of moving the needle. Their secondary problem is proving their allegations, because of the following:

  • Ukrainians received their aid and never agreed to anything in return.
  • There has been zero witnesses or evidence of any explicit agreement between Trump and Zelensky as alleged.
  • The Ukrainian President and Ukrainian Ambassadors dispute any allegations that they were pressured.
  • Real life timing of the situation proves that Ukrainians were unaware that aid had even been withheld at the time when Democrats argue the President was using the Aid to pressure them.

But these are just the secondary problems, because the primary problem is that those opposed to the impeachment do not believe that the situation constitutes any sort of bribe or criminal behavior. So even if the could prove what they claim, it would be irrelevant to those who oppose. These are the problems that Democrats have no chance to get past.

  • The law provides the executive branch the authority to set the terms and conditions of foreign aid. So you cannot argue that setting terms and conditions (which is allowed by law) is a bribe.
  • Two of the Democrat's own witnesses have collaborated the viewpoint that Burisma was a problem, that it was tied to American interests, and that the investigation should be reopened. You cannot demand the President would be engaged in "corrupt intent" for asking for something that our own diplomats agree should be done. 
  • The Democrats continue to push the idea that you can impeach the President for some sort of "attempted" behavior that never materialized. They want Trump supporters and GOP lawmakers to support  (for the first time in our nation's history) the removal of a duly elected President for an action that is not a crime, never materialized even if it was a crime, and of which even the literal intention cannot be collaborated or proven by any first hand witnesses or tangible evidence. 

The cold hard reality for Democrats is that this was always a losing proposition. Pelosi and others understood this, but got bullied into playing a losing hand by the liberal flank of their Party. The bigger problem is that they are entirely 100% in control of these events and they still cannot move the needle where they need to (with Trump supporters, conservative voters, and GOP lawmakers). 

Lastly... if they decide to follow through with impeachment, then it allows Trump and the GOP to actually put up the defense that they want to, rather than the limited defense being allowed by Schiff and the Democrats. 

Then watch the Democrat's case "really" fall apart.  

16 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Funny. Why is Trump so upset?

Trump Rages Against Impeachment Probe
November 16, 2019 at 4:32 pm EST

New York Times:
“Mr. Trump continued his scorched-earth defense on Saturday, denouncing those involved in the proceedings. In one tweet, he misspelled the name of the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee leading the inquiry, Representative Adam Schiff of California, to what sounds like a vulgarity, claiming the stock markets would collapse if he were impeached.

“And the president, attributing a quotation to the conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh, suggested that nonpartisan diplomats who have testified were aggrieved members of the Washington ‘Swamp’ merely trying to exact their revenge.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Removing him from office by impeachment may not be achievable due to the cringing unprincipled cowardice of the GOP.

Removing him from office via the ballot box, however......

He sill only look worse and worse as more comes to light.
Better clamp down tight on those tax returns.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Budget Official Not Sure Why Ukraine Aid Frozen
November 16, 2019 at 4:39 pm EST By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

“House impeachment investigators met for a rare weekend session on Saturday to privately question a senior official from the White House budget office about President Trump’s decision this summer to freeze $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine,” the New York Times reports.

“Democrats leading the proceedings had hoped that the budget official, Mark Sandy, could at least offer a glimpse into deliberations at the Office of Management and Budget over carrying out the order. In the end, Mr. Sandy told investigators that he did not know why the military assistance had been delayed but that HE HAD NEVER ENCOUNTERED A SIMILAR SITUATION IN HIS TIME AT THE AGENCY."

Well, now you see, we have a pretend President who does things without asking or explaining.

In this case, he took an action that was illegal. He had no authority to do it.

Another article for impeachment?

As a matter of fact, when they learned of this, the aid was released without asking for Trump's approval. They had already broken precedent and law by obeying his imperialistic order.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

I'm back !!!!

Never mind it's just political_liar

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

No, it's "just" the NYT.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The Budget Official Mark Sandy may not have known WHY the aid was frozen, BUT THESE PEOPLE SURE DID:

NSC Official Immediately Knew Call Was DAMAGING
November 16, 2019 at 4:59 pm EST

“Timothy Morrison, a former White House national security official, told House investigators in sworn testimony that he feared leaks of the contents of the July 25 call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky would be DAMAGING, so he recommended RESTRICTING ACCESS TO THE TRANSCRIPT,” the Washington Post reports.

“Morrison, an expert on Russia and Ukraine who served on the National Security Council before leaving the job at the end of October, said he knew IMMEDIATELY after listening to the call where Trump asks Zelensky to investigate the Bidens that they needed to keep it under wraps.”
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ALSO IMPORTANT:
CNN reports Morrison said SONDLAND “believed and at least related to me that the President was giving him instruction.”

Yep, Sondland had better sing some more.

And by the way, that's the TRANSCRIPT we still have not seen in it's unredacted, unedited, uncensored form.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

its

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

FAKE NEWS NYT probably aggregated by political_liar.

And cut and pasted here.

How many thousands of lies did you do that for on just the disproven Russian collusion narrative?

Asking for a friend.

Must suck to be a lying and losing "pastor"

ROFLMFAO !!!

Anonymous said...

Roger, why was it none of your worthless scum loser kids rally to help you as you became homeless, suicidal and clinically Depressed ?

Are they as broke and broken as you?

Anonymous said...

Jane moved his stench to this Thread .

As wrong as ever on everything.

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Anonymous said...

Sen. Kamala Harris’s (D-CA) campaign manager is facing calls to resign due to the campaign’s continued struggles, with a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll showing the presidential hopeful tying with Michael Bloomberg at three percent support nationally."

Roger backs her 100 %, he continues to back losers. Roger why did your kids abandon you at your time of financial and mental need?

Myballs said...

Dow passes 28000. It goes unreported at CBS, abc, NBC. None of them.

Anonymous said...

They don't report positive news.

Dystopian Democrats

Anonymous said...

NFL further hurt thier brand. They got punk by Kaepernick.

"The NFL arranged a workout for Colin Kaepernick that was going to be attended by more than two dozen teams."

He was a no show.