Saturday, November 23, 2019

Of Course Trump wants a Senate Trial!

Certain people on the left are suggesting that the President has lost his marbles by suggesting that it would be good for him to have a trial in the Senate. Conventional wisdom would offer that continuous press tying Trump to impeachment would be harmful. The simple question I would ask these liberals is:

Have you seen the recent impeachment poll numbers?

Since the impeachment hearing have started, the RCP average on impeachment has shown a drop in support for impeachment and an increase in opposition. The last Emerson poll showed that Independents (the key demographic that must be won over) have soured on impeachment to the tune of 24 points. Independents went form supporting Impeachment by 48-39 (+9) to now opposing it by 34-49  (-15). 

This has objectively been somewhere between a polling "wash" to a polling "disaster" depending on the poll. The more people learn, the less they believe Trump deserves to be impeached.

All of this without Trump or the GOP being able to call the witnesses they want to call!

This is why the President wants a Senate trial. Because he would finally be allowed to put up a defense!

At this point in time, the Democrats should be at their highest polling levels. They've leaked their strongest points, and paraded those witnesses that they wanted to put forward.  Basically this has been done while limiting who can question and what they can ask.

But the polling is not improving in favor of impeachment. So it begs the question regarding what happens to the polling after the President and the GOP get to tell their side of the story?

Trump wants to find out. Democrats should be wary of a Senate trial, and wary of questioning the President's judgment on this. 

103 comments:

Commonsense said...

Mass political suicide, and the Democrats can't stop it from happening. This is a nightmare for Pelosi.

Anonymous said...




antifa fuckstick gets his ass kicked -

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=u0Hrf_1574391726

Puzzled said...


Anybody want to take a bet against Trump winning ?

Why are no odds posted anywhere?

You can bet on almost anything else

Debra Heine said...

@NiceDeb

Trump Calls For Senate Impeachment Trial, Wants Schiff, ‘Fake Whistleblower’ and Hunter Biden to Testify

President Trump called for a Senate trial should the House vote to impeach him, and declared that the so-called “whistleblower” and Hunter Biden should be called to testify. The president added that there was one particular witness he wanted to see most of all.
“There’s only one person I want more than ‘Where’s Hunter?’ and that is Adam Schiff,” Trump said.

https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/22/trump-calls-for-senate-impeachment-trial-wants-schiff-fake-whistleblower-and-hunter-biden-to-testify/#.XdhplFvDgIY.twitter

Bet the ratings would SOAR !!!

Ward Coleman said...

@WardColeman7

The left is so desperate, they are now turning to John Bolton in the hope he will be their Saviour! ...... JOHN BOLTON???!!! Really??

Yep

Anonymous said...



The left is so desperate, they are now turning to John Bolton in the hope he will be their Saviour! ...... JOHN BOLTON???!!! Really??

when you're in the grip of stage IV TDS, nothing is real except for the most ridiculous delusions.

exhibit A: the alky.

bolton and trump may have their differences, but that doesn't mean that bolton is a fool. if your last best hope of taking down trump is john bolton, you're a fucking idiot.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY
Documents released to ethics group show Giuliani, Pompeo contacts before Ukraine ambassador ousted
Nearly 100 pages of documents, including emails, were released by the watchdog group American Oversight late Friday.

State Department emails link Rudy Giuliani to Mike Pompeo

Nov. 22, 2019, 10:30 PM PST / Updated Nov. 23, 2019, 4:40 AM PST
By Phil Helsel and Abigail Williams
An ethics group late Friday published nearly 100 pages of previously unreleased State Department documents that the group says shows “a clear paper trail” between President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo before a Ukraine ambassador was abruptly recalled.

The documents were published by American Oversight, which calls itself a non-partisan and nonprofit ethics watchdog and Freedom of Information Act litigator investigating the Trump administration.

They appear to show two calls between Giuliani and Pompeo in March, around a month before former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, an anti-corruption expert, was abruptly called back to the U.S. in April and then removed from the post.

David Hale, undersecretary of state for political affairs, testified on Wednesday that Pompeo and Giuliani spoke on the phone twice in late March.

The information released Friday "reveals a clear paper trail from Rudy Giuliani to the Oval Office to Secretary Pompeo to facilitate Giuliani's smear campaign against a U.S. ambassador," Austin Evers, executive director of American Oversight, said in a statement.

Yovanovitch has told members of Congress in an impeachment inquiry that her reputation was smeared by Giuliani, including false allegationsthat she badmouthed Trump and was blocking corruption investigations by circulating a "do not prosecute" list and stymieing investigation into the Vice President Joe Biden and his son.

The allegations of a pressure campaign by Trump to get the Ukrainians to announce investigations into a conspiracy theory about the 2016 presidential election and the Bidens are central to the impeachment inquiry into whether Trump abused the power of his office for personal political gain.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Fiona Hill: The Antidote to Trump
By Andrew Sullivan

I’ve been in Britain, so it was tough to give this week’s impeachment hearings the attention they deserve. But one obvious theme has emerged: the imperturbability, professionalism, and courage of the women who have testified. When I sat down last night and watched some of the footage of Fiona Hill online, I was gobsmacked.

As soon as I heard her voice, I thought she was a “Geordie” — her accent has obviously softened but those flat vowels and clipped consonants are unmistakable to an English ear. I was wrong, in fact. Geordies are from Newcastle, strictly speaking, and Hill is from Durham. They’re both cities in the Northeast of England and have similar accents, but Durham is a truly ancient town, its Cathedral a monument to medieval Christianity, its university renowned. And Hill, it also turns out, is the real deal, from a mining family. Her local paper, the Northern Echo, celebrated a local girl yesterday:

Born in Bishop Auckland in October 1965, she is the daughter of a coalminer and a midwife. Dad Alfred followed the men of his family down the pits, aged 14, and when the last collieries closed in the 1960s he wanted to emigrate to America to work in the coal mines in West Virginia or Pennsylvania but stayed to be with his mother, who had been crippled from hard labour. He died in the North-East in 2012 and Ms Hill’s mother still lives in her hometown.

From these modest origins, as she acknowledged in her opening statement, Hill became what we saw yesterday. One of the wretched things about the last few years has been following and staying sane in the blizzard of bluster, misinformation, gaslighting, conspiracy theories, and the actual empirical, complex reality we have been confronted with. To keep one’s focus while enduring this torrent of deliberate confusion and competing narratives has been extremely hard.

But not for Hill.

Watching her listen carefully to Castor and Nunes’s questions and arguments, and then just as carefully, methodically dismantle them was a kind of cleansing shower in an impossibly humid summer. Her clear distinction between national security and a “domestic errand” is at the heart of the profound corruption in this presidency, and I have simply never seen it expressed so coherently and plainly.

This is why we needed impeachment hearings. We can see this “deep state” for the patriotic professionals so many of them are. We can pierce through the propaganda and see the Washington that many of us who live there have always seen: countless quiet, principled public servants, usually genuinely seeking the public good. Yes, there are many, many cronies and lobbyists and swamp-dwellers as well. But they are outnumbered.

AND TO SEE HOW THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD TO ENDURE a president this DERANGEDD, this indifferent to the TRUTH, this CRAVEN toward the enemies of the United States because they can be ASSETS for his domestic POLITICAL purposes is to experience the appropriate amount of ANGER toward the damage he has done. It feels like a moment to me.

And it is right and just that it has been WOMEN who have faced down this BELLIGERANET, BLUSTERING TYRANT. And not just women but IMMIGRANT women, whose commitment to this country and its ideals can often be more intense than those of the native born.

Hearing Hill’s still voice of calm in this storm moved me deeply, and not just because she comes from the country of my birth too, but because her immigrant, accented voice revealed an UNDERSTANDING of America in a way this president simply DOESN'T understand. SHE KNOWS WHAT’S AT STAKE. And she has done her part. It gives me hope, I guess. Hope that we can, in fact, expose and defeat this MALIGNANCYH at the heart of our democracy.

If we see Trump as the POISON he truly is, we have now also seen something else. WE HAVE SEEN THE ANTIDOTE.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Why Trump must be discussed, tried, and one way or another removed:

Because WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

Anonymous said...




that's nice alky.

will you be copying and pasting several dozen more news stories that we've already read today?

oh, and alky?

ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president. that is, until they no longer please him. then he can fire them. summarily. without cause or reason. just because he fucking feels like it.

In December 2008, Barack Obama summarily fired every ambassador appointed by George W Bush.

The media did not care for four reasons. First, it was Barack Obama. Second, they recognized that the president controls the executive branch. Third, it was a parting shiv to Bush. Finally, it was Barack Obama.


https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/18/the-swamps-swingline-stapler/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The swamp is not being fixed by the President. It's much worse than before.


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Nunes could be in as much trouble as Trump over Ukraine: Former prosecutor says he may have committed a federal crimePublished 2 hours ago on November 23, 2019By Matthew Chapman



On CNN Saturday, former federal prosecutor Elie Honig walked through how the meeting with former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin potentially exposes Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) to criminal liability of his own.

“So as relates to, let’s say now if true, what does this portend for the question of the day? The potential impeachment of the president?” asked anchor Victor Blackwell. “Is this just an interesting element, or could this go to the question of, has the president committed impeachable offenses?”

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“Well, it goes to the broader atmosphere,” said Honig. “I don’t think it directly hits at Donald Trump. Certainly directly hits at Devin Nunes. Really bad news for Devin Nunes.”

“The sheer hypocrisy that he has shown up on his high horse over the last couple weeks, preaching what’s right and wrong and conspiracy theories, turns out, according to Parnas, he was trying to do the exact same thing that’s on trial here,” continued Honig. “Devin Nunes, according to this report, was meeting with a corrupt prosecutor, somebody everything who knows this area says was corrupt … trying to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. It’s a arguably a crime, a federal crime for a person to try to solicit something of value to a political campaign from a foreign national.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/documents-released-ethics-group-show-giuliani-pompeo-contacts-ukraine-ambassador-n1090091

Tony Shaffer said...

@T_S_P_O_O_K_Y

This is a must hear - @LeeSmithDC w/ @LarryOConnor yesterday 11.22.19 - Lee details the real issue behind the impeachment effort: the cover-up of @BarackObama and @DNC wrongdoing in Ukraine & the origins of the "Russian Collusion Narrative"

https://twitter.com/T_S_P_O_O_K_Y/status/1198253089012244483

Anonymous said...



Why Trump must be discussed, tried, and one way or another removed:

Because WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS.



pederast,

if we really were "better than this" we would accept the results of the 2016 election and cease with the repeated fucking coup attempts built upon an ever increasing mountain of fucking LIES.

but we're not better than this.

we're infants. we throw tantrums when we don't get our way. we lie. we cheat. we steal. we riot. we assault. we burn. we attempt to change rules like the electoral college that has served us for 240+ years.

we're not "better than this." this is who we are as a nation. this is what we have become. we're antifa. we're disrupt j20. we're pussy hats.

we're assholes.

we're adam schiff.


Jack Posobiec said...

@JackPosobiec

The White House just said John Bolton really did forget his Twitter password holy schiff

Anonymous said...




good job alky.

you repeated a story that is so full of lies, so egregiously false, nunes is suing CNN AND the daily beast for running it.

verify the shit you steal alky.

that will help you look like marginally less of a fucking asshole.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

rrb pointed out that
In December 2008, Barack Obama summarily fired every ambassador appointed by George W Bush.

As many have pointed out, he simply recalled them, which Trump could have done. Obama did NOT besmirch their character or tell absolute lies about them the way Trump stupidly did re Fiona Hill.

Anonymous said...



House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Devin Nunes (R-CA) announced Friday night that he is filing a lawsuit against CNN over a report that they published the same evening that alleged an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani was willing to testify to Congress that Nunes met with a former Ukrainian prosecutor last year to discuss digging up dirt on former Vice President and current Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden.

“The attorney, Joseph A. Bondy, represents Lev Parnas, the recently indicted Soviet-born American who worked with Giuliani to push claims of Democratic corruption in Ukraine,” CNN reported. “Bondy said that Parnas was told directly by the former Ukrainian official that he met last year in Vienna with Rep. Devin Nunes.”

“Mr. Parnas learned from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin that Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December,” Bondy told CNN. “Nunes had told Shokin of the urgent need to launch investigations into Burisma, Joe and Hunter Biden, and any purported Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election.”

CNN claims that Bondy told them that Parnas and Nunes allegedly began communicating with each other around the time of the Vienna trip and that Parnas worked to put Nunes in contact with Ukrainian officials that could dig up dirt on Biden and Democrats in Ukraine.

Nunes also plans to sue The Daily Beast for a story that it published earlier in the week that alleged that Parnas helped Nunes set up numerous meetings regarding Ukraine.

In an exclusive statement provided to Breitbart News, Nunes said: “These demonstrably false and scandalous stories published by the Daily Beast and CNN are the perfect example of defamation and reckless disregard for the truth. Some political operative offered these fake stories to at least five different media outlets before finding someone irresponsible enough to publish them. I look forward to prosecuting these cases, including the media outlets, as well as the sources of their fake stories, to the fullest extent of the law. I intend to hold the Daily Beast and CNN accountable for their actions. They will find themselves in court soon after Thanksgiving.”



https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-devin-nunes-will-take-swift-legal-action-against-cnn-for-demonstrably-false-story




Anonymous said...



As many have pointed out, he simply recalled them, which Trump could have done. Obama did NOT besmirch their character or tell absolute lies about them the way Trump stupidly did re Fiona Hill.

the ambassador in question is yovanovich, pederast.

not hill.

stick to raping children. it's the only thing you excel at.

oh, and pederast?

the president can fire, recall, shitcan, or otherwise dismiss any ambassador on the planet in any fucking manner that he pleases. and if he suspects that ambassador of being disloyal, incompetent, or both, he can shitcan them loudly and proudly in public if he so chooses.

it comes with the job.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump showed what an absolute asshole he is by doing that. I'm glad he did.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And why is Nunes THREATENING (that's the word I see in the latest reports) to sue CNN etc. for reporting allegations from Parnas, etc.?

Anonymous said...




pederast,

hardly a day went by during the entirety of the 0linsky regime where skeets didn't act like a preening, petulant, childish, fucking asshole.

he was such an asshole he left a permanent shitstain on our nation and on the office of the presidency.

Anonymous said...

Blogger James said...

And why is Nunes THREATENING (that's the word I see in the latest reports) to sue CNN etc. for reporting allegations from Parnas, etc.?


because they fucking LIE:

Nunes does have a legitimate reason to not answer CNN, as the far-left network is notorious for making false claims about Republicans and publishing false stories that later have to be retracted.

In late 2017, CNN published a story smearing then-Trump ally Anthony Scaramucci that alleged that Scaramucci was connected to a Russian investment fund that was supposedly under investigation by the U.S. Senate.

Scaramucci took immediate legal action against CNN and the network was forced to retract the report and had to fire three reporters over the incident.

In August, CNN’s Brian Stelter, on his show “Reliable Sources,” allowed a psychiatrist to falsely claim that President Donald Trump was “as destructive of person in this century as Hitler, Stalin, Mao were in the last century. He may be responsible for many more million deaths than they were.”

Stelter did not challenge the claim and after experiencing intense backlash, gave an uncorroborated excuse for his inaction to the blatantly false statement.

CNN also lied about former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s lawyer, Lanny Davis, being its source for a story whose central claim — that Cohen would testify that Trump knew in advance about the Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer — was also false.

“On July 27, 2018, CNN published a blockbuster story: that Michael Cohen was prepared to tell Robert Mueller that President Trump knew in advanced about the Trump Tower meeting,” The Intercept reported. “There were, however, two problems with this story: first, CNN got caught blatantly lying when its reporters claimed that ‘contacted by CNN, one of Cohen’s attorneys, Lanny Davis, declined to comment’ (in fact, Davis was one of CNN’s key sources, if not its only source, for this story), and second, numerous other outlets retracted the story after the source, Davis, admitted it was a lie. CNN, however, to this date has refused to do either.”

CNN has also posted false stories about:

James Comey’s testimony

The spread of misinformation on Twitter

Republicans funding the anti-Trump dossier

How Trump fed koi fish in Japan

Donald Trump Jr. getting advanced notice of a dump of WikiLeaks emails

A sexual assault allegation against Brett Kavanaugh that was already retracted

Repeatedly spreading false statistics about school shootings

Host shared a fake story about an AR-15


https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-devin-nunes-will-take-swift-legal-action-against-cnn-for-demonstrably-false-story

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Hardly a day has gone by without Trump viciously lying. Five pinnochios on a daily basis.

As for Nunes,
Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican member on the House Intelligence Committee, is reportedly threatening to sue CNN and The Daily Beast after the publications reported damaging allegations that could implicate him in the ongoing impeachment probe the committee is currently conducting.

Nunes—who has been one of President Donald Trump's fiercest defenders in the committee where Ukrainian "quid pro quo" allegations are currently being considered—faced calls to recuse himself and even to be investigated after it was alleged that he himself met with Ukrainian officials in order to discuss digging up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.

If accurate, the claim would implicate Nunes in the events his committee is investigating: president Trump and associates allegedly attempting to enlist a foreign government to dig up dirt on a domestic political opponent, while Congressionally approved aid was withheld until the request was met.

The allegations came from lawyers for Lev Parnas—a Ukrainian-born American who worked as a "fixer" for Rudy Giuliani before being indicted on charges of using foreign money to make illicit campaign contributions.

The lawyers, Joseph Bondy and Ed MacMahon, told CNN and The Daily Beast that Parnas helped Nunes arrange meetings with various Ukrainian officials, including ousted Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin, during a secret trip to Vienna in December 2018.

Nunes told Breitbart News that he now plans to sue the publications, although he did not specify what was he believed to be factually incorrect with any of their reporting.

"These demonstrably false and scandalous stories published by The Daily Beast and CNN are the perfect example of defamation and reckless disregard for the truth," Nunes said.

"Some political operative offered these fake stories to at least five different media outlets before finding someone irresponsible enough to publish them.

"I look forward to prosecuting these cases, including the media outlets, as well as the sources of their fake stories, to the fullest extent of the law.

"I intend to hold The Daily Beast and CNN accountable for their actions. They will find themselves in court soon after Thanksgiving."

Nunes did not offer any further detail, such as the identity of the political operative shopping the story or the media outlets that rejected them. The CNN and The Daily Beast both noted in their reports that Nunes ignored repeated requests for comment.

The lawyers for Parnas have earlier confirmed that their client was willing to comply with a Congressional subpoena for documents and testimony as part of the impeachment inquiry.

Joseph A. Bondy
@josephabondy
@RepAdamSchiff, please arrange for #HIC to agree to hear Lev Parnas. His information completes the narrative—it’s non-hearsay, not part of the #GOP “rope-a-dope,” and in the greatest of our national interests. Thank you. #LetLevSpeak https://twitter.com/sarahdwire/status/1197986902818734080 …

Sarah D. Wire

@sarahdwire
Some news for your Friday afternoon---->Schiff isn't ruling out more impeachment hearings as his committee begins drafting its report https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-22/schiff-not-ruling-out-more-impeachment-hearings … via @jenhab

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On Twitter, Bondy suggested that Parnas was already in conversation with the House Intelligence Committee, but this is yet to be indepently confirmed.

Bondy also said that Parnas had "hard" evidence that proved he met with Trump in order to directly discuss the desired Ukrainian investigations into Biden and his son Hunter.

Trump has denied meeting or knowing Parnas—a tactic he commonly appeared to use when staff or contacts become politically inconvenient—although pictures showed them at the White House together.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President Donald Trump and Giuliani have repeatedly peddled the false claim that Biden had Shokin ousted because the prosecutor was investigating Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company with ties to Biden’s son Hunter.

In reality, Biden was one of many Western leaders calling for Shokin’s ouster due to the prosecutor’s poor handling of corruption. Additionally, Burisma was not under investigation at the time.

Anonymous said...



where'd you steal that from alky?




John Bolton said...

@AmbJohnBolton

Let's get back to discussing critical national-security issues confronting America. The threats are grave and growing. The presidency and control of the House and the Senate will all be decided in less than one year. It's time to speak up again!

Many are speculating about what I plan to do next. I’m excited to tell you what I’ve been working on. Here is a preview:

https://www.boltonpac.com//first-to-know/


MANY on the LEFT here were ANXIOUS to HEAR from you.

NOW THEY CAN SIGN UP !!!

Anonymous said...



ah...

good old josh marshall himself.

LOL @ alky.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/indicted-giuliani-pal-says-nunes-met-with-ousted-ukrainian-official-to-dig-up-biden-dirt

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

SOURCE FOR THE ARTICLE I CITED
FROM NEWSWEEK

https://www.newsweek.com/parnas-lawyers-nunes-ukraine-officials-meeting-lawsuit-1473679

Anonymous said...




the ny times lies with such ease...


More broadly, Mr. Horowitz’s report, to be made public on Dec. 9, portrays the overall effort to seek the wiretap order and its renewals as sloppy and unprofessional, according to the people familiar with it. He will also sharply criticize as careless one of the F.B.I. case agents in New York handling the matter, they said.

At the same time, however, the report debunks a series of conspiracy theories and insinuations about the F.B.I. that Mr. Trump and his allies have put forward over the past two years, the people said, though they cautioned that the report is not complete. The New York Times has not reviewed the draft, which could contain other significant findings.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/us/politics/russia-investigation-inspector-general-report.html

cowardly king obama said...

MAKE SURE YOU CONTRIBUTE:

https://www.boltonpac.com//first-to-know/


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STAND WITH BOLTON and allow his voice to be heard

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Message to Nunes:
When you wade in the swamp, you get leeches on your legs.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

the ny times lies with such ease..

No, rrb dear, the two things you emphasized show they are being truthful.

Anonymous said...

Blogger James said...

SOURCE FOR THE ARTICLE I CITED
FROM NEWSWEEK



very good pederast.

newsweek. the publication that sold for the whopping, eye-popping amount of ONE DOLLAR.

for once in my lifetime biased journalism was fairly valued.

Anonymous said...



truthful?

the report has yet to be released, so how could we possibly judge the accuracy of the claims?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The quality of the article speaks for itself, rrb dear.

Anonymous said...



indeed it does, pederast.

much like the glorious bowel movement i enjoyed earlier today speaks for itself.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

they are inviting others to examine it when released and draw their own conclusions

cowardly king obama said...

James said...
John Bolton says "MORE TO COME."
November 22, 2019 at 9:36 PM

James said...
“Glad to be back on Twitter after more than two months. For the backstory, stay tuned… We have now liberated the Twitter account, previously suppressed unfairly in the aftermath of my resignation as National Security Advisor. More to come…”
November 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM

James said...
Bring it on, John.

November 22, 2019 at 9:41 PM


CHANCE for the "pastor" to STAND BEHIND HIS WORDS and CONTRIBUTE !!

https://www.boltonpac.com//first-to-know/

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Bolton needs money?

Anonymous said...




yet the ny times felt the need to lie about its conclusions while admittedly not having reviewed the report. they reported unverified hearsay.

that's not journalism. that's fiction, pederast.

pure fucking fiction.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

When a news source is honest and cautionary enough to label hearsay hearsay it still remains journalism.

American voters said...

But they're reporting it as fact not hearsay. That's not journalism.

Anonymous said...




heh:


A GQ story from Oct. 29 said that Lt. Col. Alexander VIndman, a key witness in the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, originally ran with a line saying that Vindman was awarded the Purple Heart after being injured by an IUD.

Nearly a month later, a screenshot of the correction began circulating on Twitter, noting that Vindman was injured by an IED — an improvised explosive device — and not an IUD, a method of birth control.


https://www.businessinsider.com/alexander-vindman-was-wounded-in-combat-gq-story-iud-2019-11


vindman's such a fucking pussy, they should have let the original version stand.


cowardly king obama said...

rrb said...

yet the ny times felt the need to lie about its conclusions while admittedly not having reviewed the report. they reported unverified hearsay.

that's not journalism. that's fiction, pederast.

pure fucking fiction.


FAKE NEWS like the devil has its dimwitted, but devoted, followers

Charlie Kirk said...

@charliekirk11

Difference between left and right:

Trump impeachment hoax hearings go for 2 weeks with ZERO interruptions from protestors or people on the right

Kavanaugh confirmation was interrupted 200+ times in ONE WEEK to block his confirmation

Tell me again who is dividing our country?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

There is only one way to break Republicans' cult-like devotion to Trump is for the party to be soundly defeated at the ballot box in 2020.

Goldwater all over again, but he wasn't corrupt and crazy.

Myballs said...

Neys ignoring it. But CA supreme court just tossed the unconstitutional law requiring release of tax returns to get on presidential ballot.

Democrats continue to shit all over the constitution and rule of law.

Myballs said...

Not Goldwater. Reagan. Crossover democrats and moderates voted Trump and were rhe difference.

Anonymous said...

Blogger James said...

There is only one way to break Republicans' cult-like devotion to Trump is for the party to be soundly defeated at the ballot box in 2020.



only one way?

so you're admitting defeat on impeachment.

don't tell the alky, pederast.

the nurse will have to up his meds.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

History will make it clear that the Democrats, for all their faults, were at least truthful, while the Republicans, with all their many more faults, chose to support and defend someone who even they knew was a serial, greedy, unbalanced, self-centered liar.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Add immoral.

Myballs said...

Pelosi is in a tough spot. If she allows a vote to impeach, dems by themselves will do it. And it will hang a scarlet letter on Trump in history, which they want. But they then give up all control of the process to Senate Republicans, who will no doubt be very effective in telling the other side of the story that Schiff has denied the country.

So to avoid that, they can not impeach, but censure, which keeps control of the narrative with them but is essentially meaningless.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Washington Post reported President Trump is "miserable" as House Intelligence Chair Adam Schiff announced his team is gathering evidence and has begun work on its report laying out the potential blueprint to impeachment articles.


Nunes could be in legal trouble.

The Republicans during the Nixon impeachment proceedings, gradually realized that he would be convicted.


But as others have noted that they will continue to support a serial, greedy, unbalanced, self-centered liar.

History will not look favorably on the current Republican party.

Commonsense said...

April 2014 – Hunter Biden joins Ukrainian firm Burisma
Aug. 5, 2014 – Ukraine investigation of Burisma
Oct. 14, 2014 – Ramping up Ukraine anti-corruption forces
Fall 2015 – Biden publicly calls for ouster of Prosecutor General Shokin

Yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with Hunter.

thebradfordfile™ said...

@thebradfordfile

If a woman in Arkansas had to go to court to get Don Jr. to pay child support, the mother would be the most sought after interview in America. But it’s Hunter Biden, so the media is “respecting the privacy of all parties.”



President Trump baited Pelosi into an impeachment inquiry that is increasing his approval rating, adding millions in fundraising, and may end up incriminating Hunter and Joe Biden, Adam Schiff, and a rogue CIA spy.

Trump really is a genius.



My 5-year-old son just walked by me and pondered "if engaging with foreign entities against political opponents is an impeachable offense, how did Obama use foreign spies to surveil the Trump campaign and Hillary pay ex-MI6 agent Christoper Steele?”

I honestly had no response.


The fake news media is assuring everyone this weekend that the entire Russian collusion hoax was the mistake of one "low-level" FBI attorney, based on the shameless anonymous sources who sold the hoax to destroy Trump.

Our media is beyond parody.

Who could possibly fall for that ???

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

MOST VOTERS THINK TRUMP COMMITTED ABUSES

In new Yahoo News/YouGov poll, most voters think Trump committed abuses — but are split on impeachment
Yahoo News

As two weeks of televised impeachment hearings and wall-to-wall coverage came to a close, a new Yahoo News/YouGov poll showed that a majority of registered voters believe Donald Trump abused his powers as president of the United States. But the country remained divided over the question of whether he should be impeached as a result.

The poll was conducted Nov. 20 to Nov. 22. There were five days of televised House Intelligence Committee hearings, ending Thursday, Nov. 21.

When asked to say whether they believe Trump did or did not commit specific acts in connection with Ukraine — the subject of the House impeachment inquiry —
*58 percent of registered voters said they believe the president “asked a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent”;
*51 percent said they believe he “withheld military aid to Ukraine until they agreed to conduct the investigations he wanted”; and
*51 percent said they believe he “abused his powers as president.” (Respondents were not asked about any other allegations against Trump.)

These results suggest that a majority of registered voters have been largely convinced by the case House Democrats are making in Washington: that Trump pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son by using nearly $400 million in military assistance as a quid pro quo — and that he overstepped the bounds of the presidency in the process.

Yet only 48 percent of registered voters said they favor impeaching Trump or removing him from office — slightly more than the 45 percent who opposed impeaching or removing him, but less than a majority.

The remaining 7 percent were undecided whether Trump should be impeached or removed, a sign that some registered voters may still be persuadable. And while Republicans and Democrats have largely made up their minds about removal — 83 percent of Republicans oppose it; the same percentage of Democrats are in favor — independents are less certain: A slight plurality of them (40 percent) said Trump should be removed, while another 23 percent said they’re still not sure.

Americans are even divided by party over what they believe the likely outcome of the impeachment inquiry will be. Overall, only 11 percent believed that Trump will be removed from office; a plurality (41 percent) expected impeachment in the House followed by acquittal in the GOP-controlled Senate. That’s a view shared by a majority (54 percent) of Democrats. Yet a majority of Republicans (56 percent) believe that Trump won’t be impeached at all.

These disparities may reflect the fact that Republicans are paying less attention to the impeachment inquiry than Democrats. Fifty-six percent of Democrats said they have been following the congressional hearings “very closely” or “somewhat closely”; among Republicans, that number was 11 percentage points lower.

Regardless, Americans say impeachment will play A BIG ROLE IN HOW THEY VOTE in next November’s congressional elections. Asked to rate how important their current representative’s impeachment vote will be in their decision about casting their own vote for Congress, Democrats and Republicans were in rare agreement, with 74 percent in both parties saying it will be either “very important” or “somewhat important.”

Yahoo News and YouGov surveyed 1,500 U.S. adults online. The margin of error is ±2.8 percent.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I strongly suspect that if the Chief Justice Roberts allows the President and his Republican colleagues, to call Biden, and others, they will end up being exposed as people spinning untrue allegations of a coup and the deep state conspiracy theories.

Because the Democrats will be allowed to cross examine the witnesses, and put the facts in public view.

You keep saying that the polls show that support for convention are wavering. The same polls showed that Crooked Hillary Clinton was going to win the election.

This President's policies are more important to himself, than the security of the United States of America.

He swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

He violates that every single day on Twitter.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Prosecutor General Shokin was a very corrupt person. Why do you think that getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor is a crime?

Commonsense said...

I strongly suspect that if the Chief Justice Roberts allows the President and his Republican colleagues, to call Biden, and others

The Chief Justice has little to do but preside over the trial. The senate makes the rules and the senate is going to give the president wide latitude to put on a defense.

cowardly king obama said...

Roger Amick said...
Prosecutor General Shokin was a very corrupt person. Why do you think that getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor is a crime?


In a very corrupt country with many corrupt people singling out the only lead prosecutor who was looking into obviously suspicious payments to your son and likely criminal, is hard to defend.

Why was Biden concerned only about one individual ?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Donald Trump mega-donor who was awarded with an ambassadorship stepped into the impeachment spotlight Wednesday and said the president basically did what Democrats are accusing him of doing.


Gordon Sondland, who had already changed his testimony once, delivered a torrent of words, but none more important than these: “Was there a quid pro quo?...The answer is yes.”


What’s more, the ambassador who was once cast as a pro-Trump witness provided a road map to the Ukraine mess, made clear many top officials were involved, and said it was done at the “express direction” of the president. “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.”


https://www.foxnews.com/media/sondland-declares-quid-pro-quo-pundits-call-testimony-damaging-to-trump

Faux News is turning around on the President?

FOOL NELSON said...

@FOOL_NELSON

@ChuckGrassley and @SenRonJohnson are pulling the thread on Eric Ciaramella and Liz Zentos's January 19, 2016 meetings with the Ukrainians.

https://twitter.com/FOOL_NELSON/status/1183072792906010625 …


The CIA "whistleblower" meeting with Ukrainians and the White House multiple times in 2016.

Is it "possible" this has some relevancy to Coup 1.0, 2.0 "insurance policies" and election interference ?

Disaster for Dems if this yields anything and they sure appear to think so.

No wonder Trump is smiling so much while the FAKE NEWS is reporting he is depressed... Kind of like more projection...

cowardly king obama said...

I guess roger missed the testimony by Sondland that was his opinion and he had no evidence,

Kind of an important "detail"

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Vice President Biden was following the President's directions to remove the entire corrupt government of Ukraine.

The payments are not obviously suspicious.

That's based upon a false sense accusation. The Ukrainian government was not attacking the last election, it was the Russians you idiot.

The worst part is that the President, asked for a favor from the newly elected President of Ukraine for dirt on Biden.

Myballs said...

Agreed. Roger keeps repeating one line and pretending another never came out in cross examination.

Lee Smith said...

@LeeSmithDC

Why are @nytimes et al keen to bury 2016 Ukrainian interference? Because it leads directly to Clinton campaign & shows US spies (FBI/DOJ, Brennan, Halper, etc) not Russian ones were primary actors illegally meddling in US vote.

You're welcome :-)

cowardly king obama said...

Myballs said...
Agreed. Roger keeps repeating one line and pretending another never came out in cross examination.


The last few years have been very tough on ultra-partisan democrat "resistance" and the future, at least for the next 5 years, is going to be a lot worse.

A whole lot worse.

And history will crush them.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Unlike you, I actually watched the hearings on live TV.

I don't rely heavily upon Fox News and Breitbart News etc..

I actually watched it on Fox and MSNBC live and CNN.

The Fox news bubble was bursting into dust, because they couldn't believe what the President actually said on Twitter.

He provided first hand knowledge about the phone call from the President. Trump said on Fox News Morning show that the didn't recall the phone call.

Sondland said, under oath he actually heard the President committing an impeachable offense.


Kind of an important "detail" isn't it????

cowardly king obama said...


You must have missed these statements by Sondland in response to questions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K3vyjhWu6o

VERY IMPORTANT DETAILS

and no he didn't say under oath he heard the president commit an impeachable offense. Just that he had some opinions and he interpreted some things. LISTEN TO WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAYS not the voices in your head or plants from the MSM

cowardly king obama said...

Roger Amick said... Sondland said, under oath he actually heard the President committing an impeachable offense.

I think his testimony is clear, any more misconceptions?

Having said that you are full of them and I don't want to waste the whole day...

C.H. Truth said...

Sondland said, under oath he actually heard the President committing an impeachable offense.

Seriously?

Myballs said...

3 pills out showing dems endless impeachment obsession is driving Indy voters to the right.

Anonymous said...

Those three polls are right.

Palsy/Biden/Obama/Shift are huddling to figure a way out of the box they find themselves in.

Anonymous said...

He did? Do tell, in an exact quote.

"Sondland said, under oath he actually heard the President committing an impeachable offense." MynameisRogernotAlky

Anonymous said...

James, Clearly you will be willing to defend your physical Threat upon the sitting US. President.

"JamesNovember 23, 2019 at 9:48 AM

Why Trump must be discussed, tried, and one way or another removed:"

Do tell, what are your ways you remove him?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

As Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said in 1999 during the Clinton impeachment trial, “if we have no truth and we have no justice, then we have no nation of laws. No public official, no president, no man or no woman is important enough to sacrifice the founding principles of our legal system.” McConnell and his Republican colleagues need to follow his 1999 comments.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In my opinion, Yes.

In your opinion, no

Anonymous said...

yawn

Anonymous said...

Why did Schitt abruptly end the highly Partisian Hearings?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Impeachment is a political process.

Kput'z shut up because you are so fucking stupid.

Myballs said...

In 1999, Clinton got to make his case too you imbecile.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

"...the senate is going to give the president wide latitude to put on a defense."

Oh I hope SO!
Yes, let Trump let himself loose in a defense!
By all means.

But of course, that would mean he would have to agree to being cross examined, an INTERESTING proposition.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And of course if the trial starts going badly for him, he will try to declare it invalid, a FAKE trial.

Commonsense said...

What makes you think the trial will go badly for Trump?

Anonymous said...

Why did Schitt abruptly end the highly Partisian Hearings?

Roger doesn't know.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In the Senate trial of course you dumbshit.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Alzheimer's?

President Donald Trump regularly struggles to "remember what he's said or been told," an anonymous senior government official behind a new exposé on the inner workings of the White House has claimed.

Much of the nearly 260 pages of the anonymous official's tome, A Warning, which hit bookshelves on Tuesday, has been dedicated to sounding the alarm about Trump's alarming behavior.

Trump Has Secret R-Rate Nicknames for People He Doesn't Like: BookREAD MORE

While the anonymous author, who is described only as a "senior official in the Trump administration" admits they are not "qualified to diagnose the president's mental acuity," they can say that "normal people who spend any time with Donald Trump are uncomfortable by what they witness."

"He stumbles, slurs, gets confused, is easily irritated, and has trouble synthesizing information, not occasionally but with regularity," the official
Often, they say, "the president also can't remember what he's said or been told."

Paul Sperry said...

@paulsperry_

Dems expecting Bolton to corroborate Fiona Hill, who testified Bolton saw eye-to-eye with her on Trump, may be disappointed, as sources tell me Bolton could not stand or trust Hill, a Democrat who came from Brookings,a haunt for anti-Trump liberals incl Talbott & Wittes

but yesterday they were ecstatic that he got Twitter to reset his password.

HE MUST BE HEARD until he says something they don't like.

Then they will be petitioning Twitter to ban him.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

New Documents Show Giuliani-Pompeo Contacts
November 23, 2019 at 4:23 pm EST

“Newly released documents show Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani was in contact with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in the months before the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine was abruptly recalled,” PBS Newshour reports.

“The State Department released the documents Friday to the group American Oversight in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. They show that Pompeo talked with Giuliani on March 26 and March 29.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

What makes you think the trial will go badly for Trump?

One little word: Truth.

Commonsense said...

Well then, you are fucked James.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Quite the contrary.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Menstra, if you actually believe that there is massive corruption in the FBI/DOJ to overturn the last, you have lost your mind.

The majority of FBI agents are not liberals. Nor does the top levels have been attempting to overturn the last election!

It's that simple.

Trump has been trying to make everything he says or does is acceptable for any President, him or his successor.

Let's say that Senator Amy Klobuchar is elected President. She would be a formidable candidate. And she decides to enlist another foriegn government to get dirt on the next Republican party candidate. With a simple phone call and ask for a favor....??

I can say, without a doubt whatsoever, you would support impeachment hearings in the house of representatives. Especially if the Republicans retake the house in 2022.

Would you still believe that it is acceptable behavior, despite thinking is not appropriate? That's what you are saying about this President!

I'm bet you won't respond to this question!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Congress is taking the holiday vacation.

Plus you dumbshit, the Democrats are going to frame the indictment and send it to the house intelligence justice committee, where we may see a couple days of testimony.

Pelosi is going to get the indictment to a vote before Christmas.


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

THIS CAME OUT ON NOV. 21
Trump Won’t Allow Navy to Punish Navy SEAL

“President Trump has once again weighed in on potential disciplinary action against Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher, appearing to override a Navy decision to initiate a review that could result in him being stripped of his status as a SEAL,” CNN reports.

“The Navy’s review could have led to Gallagher’s expulsion from the elite warfare community.”

Tweeted Trump: “The Navy will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher’s Trident Pin. This case was handled very badly from the beginning. Get back to business!”
___________

I guess they think this IS their business (not his), because

Defense Chief Raised Concerns with White House
November 23, 2019

Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley have raised serious concerns with the White House in the last 48 hours after President Trump signaled he would block the Navy from ejecting Eddie Gallagher from the SEALs, an administration official told CNN.

Anonymous said...

Why did Schitt abruptly end the highly Partisian Hearings?

Roger doesn't know. I am still right.

Myballs said...

Even left wing vanity fair is reporting that independent voters have had enough of impeachment, that DC and the media care far more about it than they do.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Three Amigos.

Trump

Giuliani

Pompeo


Trying to get dirt on Biden. And fired the ambassador fired.

Newly released documents from the State Department reveal several calls between Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani approximately a month before former Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was suddenly removed from her post.


American Oversight, a self-described “non-partisan” watchdog organization dedicated to investigating President Donald Trump, obtained the documents on Friday night in its lawsuit against the department.

According to the documents, Pompeo had a call with Giuliani on March 26, then another call several days later on March 29 at Pompeo’s request on March 28.

Emails in the information dump also tie Trump-then top assistant Madeleine Westerhaut to Pompeo and Giuliani’s communications.

On March 27, Westerhaut connected a State Department official to Rudy Giuliani’s assistant, who had asked Westerhaut for a “good number” to contact Pompeo.

After several months of Giuliani’s smear campaign against Yovanovitch, the ambassador was told on April 24 to “get on the next plane” back to the U.S. She was subsequently removed from her position despite being widely regarded as a highly capable diplomat at the State Department.

Despite requests from department officials, Pompeo did not defend Yovanovitch after her ouster.

“We can see why Mike Pompeo has refused to release this information to Congress,” He would have to lie or plead the fifth.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pompeo-had-several-calls-with-giuliani-before-yovanovitchs-abrupt-ouster-docs-confirm

Myballs said...

Exposing corruption is not 'getting dirt'. Don Jr took a meeting and had to testify for 20 hours. More double standards I see.

Commonsense said...

Menstra, if you actually believe that there is massive corruption in the FBI/DOJ to overturn the last, you have lost your mind.
The majority of FBI agents are not liberals. Nor does the top levels have been attempting to overturn the last election!


The FBI spied on the Republican campaign for president base on a dosser produced by a foreign agent with ties to the Russian intelligence agencies and was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC.

And the Democrats have the nerve to impeach Trump over a telephone call?

What's wrong with you?