Thursday, October 22, 2020

I concur completely...



 

103 comments:

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

The moderator crushed Wallace too. I was impressed compared to what I was expecting.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

For the people who haven't yet decided which candidate he or she wants to be President, the choice is either a caring man who cares about you, and a man who cares about himself only? That person should vote for Joe Biden.

The pillows and sheets doesn't mean anything to people who don't get their news from Fox news and Mark Levin and PJ media.

Commonsense said...

Moderator: “Would you close down the oil industry?”

Biden: “I would transition away from the oil industry, yes,”


Bears repeating.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump didn't swing anymore in his direction.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I CONCUR COMPLETELY---

You have rocks in your head, lol.
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Instant Polls Find Biden Won Final Debate
11:53 pm

A CNN instant poll finds
53% of voters who watched the final presidential debate thought Joe Biden won, while
39% thought Donald Trump won.

A Data for Progress snap poll finds
52% say Biden won,
41% thought Trump won and
7% were undecided.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Records Show Biden Had No Role In Chinese Venture
11:15 pm

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL (A CONSERVATIVE PAPER WITH AN EXCELLENT JOURNALISTIC REPUTATION) SAYS:
“An ex-business partner of Hunter Biden, in a news conference organized by the Trump campaign, alleged that former Vice President Joe Biden was part of discussions around his son’s efforts to form an investment venture with a Chinese oil company.

“The venture—set up in 2017 after Mr. Biden left the vice presidency and before his presidential campaign—never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals, according to people familiar with the matter.

“Corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden.”
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Disappointing, eh slurpers?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...





Disappointing, eh Ch?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

AP FACT CHECK:
Examining claims from last Trump-Biden debate
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Oct 22nd 2020 10:45PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump and Democratic challenger Joe Biden sparred Thursday in their final presidential debate, hoping to sway undecided voters in the Nov. 3 election.

A look at how their statements from Nashville, Tennessee, stack up with the facts:

BIDEN: “Not one single person with private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan, nor did they under ‘Obamacare,’ they did not lose their insurance, unless they chose they wanted to go to something else.”

THE FACTS: He's wrong about “Obamacare.”

Then-President Barack Obama promised if you liked your health insurance, you could keep it under his Affordable Care Act, but that’s not what happened for some.

When “Obamacare” took effect in 2014, several million people lost individual health insurance plans that no longer met minimum standards established by the law. A backlash forced the White House to offer a work-around, but the political damage was done.

Health insurance is such a complicated area that almost any action has the potential for unintended consequences.
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TRUMP on his taxes: “They keep talking about $750, which I think is a filing fee. ... Tens of millions of dollars (in income taxes) I prepaid.” On his China bank account: “I was a businessman in 2013 and I closed the account in 2015.”

THE FACTS: Trump is not being honest about his taxes.

Reporting by The New York Times, which obtained his tax records, contradicts his claims.

The IRS does not charge taxpayers a filing fee, though tax preparation services do. The $750 that Trump paid in 2016 and 2017 in the income taxes was to the federal government, not a tax preparation service.

It’s not clear what Trump is talking about with regard to prepaying his taxes, but what matters is what he ultimately owed the government. Americans often have their income tax payments deducted from their paychecks. The Times reported that Trump, starting in 2010, claimed and received an income tax refund that totaled $72.9 million, which was at the core of an ongoing audit by the IRS. The Times said a ruling against Trump could cost him $100 million or more.

Nor did Trump close his Chinese bank account, according to Alan Garten, a lawyer for Trump’s company. He told the Times that the account remains open, though the company’s office in China has been inactive since 2015.
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TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. And you got $3.5. Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”

THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

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TRUMP on the toll of COVID-19 in the U.S.: “So as you know 2.2 million people, modeled out, were expected to die.”

THE FACTS: This was his first line in the debate, and it is false. The U.S. death toll from the pandemic was not expected to be that high.

Such an extreme projection was merely a baseline if nothing at all were done to fight the pandemic. Doing nothing was never an option and public-health authorities did not expect over 2 million deaths.

Trump often cites the number to put the reality of more than 200,000 deaths in a better light and to attempt to take credit for reducing projected mortality.

At an April 1 briefing, when Trump and his officials discussed an actual projection of 100,000 to 240,000 deaths, the president held out hope of keeping deaths under 100,000. “I think we’re doing better than that.” He has repeatedly moved the goal posts to make the massive mortality and infection numbers look better.
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TRUMP: “We’re rounding the turn. We’re rounding the corner. It’s going away.”

THE FACTS: No, the coronavirus isn’t going away. It’s coming back. New cases are on the rise toward their summer peak. Deaths have also been increasing.

According to data through Oct. 21 from Johns Hopkins University, the 7-day rolling average for daily new cases in the U.S. rose over the past two weeks from over 42,300 on Oct. 7 to nearly 60,000 on Oct. 21.

According to data through Oct. 21 from Johns Hopkins University, the 7-day rolling average for daily new deaths in the U.S. rose over the past two weeks from 695 on Oct. 7 to 757 on Oct. 21.
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Associated Press writers Cal Woodward, Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Eric Tucker, Josh Boak and Stephen Braun contributed to this report.
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EDITOR'S NOTE — A look at the veracity of claims by political figures.

Commonsense said...

Instant Polls Find Biden Won Final Debate
11:53 pm

A CNN instant poll finds
53% of voters who watched the final presidential debate thought Joe Biden won, while
39% thought Donald Trump won.

A Data for Progress snap poll finds
52% say Biden won,
41% thought Trump won and
7% were undecided.


That Biden won is exactly what you would expect from liberal leading polls. That he barely won in these polls is somewhat of a surprise.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LOL Look at the "poll" cited by Ch at the beginning of this thread, if you want to see a FAKE poll.

Common Totally Lack of Sense calls
a plus 14% win
and
a plus 11% win
"barely" winning.

Knee slapping funny.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump didn't reach outside of his base.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

James, he finds those things on Twitter

Commonsense said...

As per your request, Joe...

Never ask for a fact check when there's video.

Commonsense said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

What kind of participants gave the result Ch cites at the beginning of this poll?

Commonsense said...

a plus 14% win
and
a plus 11% win
"barely" winning.


With a self-selected poll of mostly liberal participants I would expect Biden to get 65 to 75 percent.

You really weren't stupid enough to believe it was anywhere close to a scientific sample were you?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

11:45
Biden has consistently said that if he is elected, we would not immediately ban fracking, but would TRANSITION out of it, out of fossil fuels.

Commonsense said...

What kind of participants gave the result Ch cites at the beginning of this poll?

Don't know. But 95% is impressive even if was a sample of all Trump volunteers.

Commonsense said...

Biden has consistently said that if he is elected, we would not immediately ban fracking, but would TRANSITION out of it, out of fossil fuels.

Would you like to explain that distinction to a Pennsylvania oil worker? All he knows is he'll be robbed of a high paying job and be back on the welfare rolls with Biden.

He's voting for Trump. So will everybody else who are doing well in the booming economy caused by the fracking revolution.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Future generations will ask us, Why didn't you spend even more in time, money, and research dedicated to getting us away from all polluting forms of energy use and creating the multitudinous non polluting jobs which can use clean energy technology?

Myballs said...

Instead of taking a tax refund the way we would, Trump had his tax accountants apply it as prepayment for future taxes. He was being truthful. And I have seen tax prep fees cost $750.

Myballs said...

Biggest loser last night was Chris Wallace.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Joe Biden did a better job in the final debate on Thursday, according to a CNN Instant Poll of debate watchers. Overall, 53% of voters who watched the debate said that Biden won the matchup, while 39% said that President Donald Trump did.

Viewers once again said that Biden's criticisms of Trump were largely fair (73% said they were fair, 26% unfair), and they split over whether Trump's attacks on Biden were fair (50% said yes, 49% no).

Anonymous said...




ooh.

XiNN poll declares Biden the winner.

well knock me over with a feather.

alky, you post this as if it's meaningful.

LOL.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Summary

President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden faced off in the final presidential debate of the campaign. We found:

Trump accused Biden of receiving “$3.5 million from Russia.” There’s no evidence of that.Biden said there’s “no evidence” that raising the minimum wage causes business bankruptcies. There is, a little.Trump erred when he said it’s “proven” that a minimum-wage boost would lead to many firings. There’s a chance that the effect could be “about zero,” according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.Trump falsely said “I don’t take” money from Wall Street. He and groups supporting him got about $13.8 million from Wall Street.Biden claimed Social Security’s chief actuary said if Trump “continues his plan to withhold the tax on Social Security” the program “will be bankrupt by 2023.” Trump hasn’t proposed ending the tax without providing alternative funding, the scenario the actuary assessed.The president falsely claimed that his bank account in China was “closed in 2015.” Trump’s own attorney said it remains open.Trump claimed that the $750 the New York Times reported he paid in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017 was a “filing fee.” There is no such fee.Trump repeated his claim that “we’re rounding the turn” on the pandemic. Cases actually are increasing in many parts of the country.Though Biden claimed Trump’s travel restrictions on China were imposed “late, after 40 countries had already done that,” most of those countries did it around the same time Trump did.Biden misleadingly claimed that “38,000 prisoners were released from federal prison” during the Obama administration. The total number went down by about 12,000.Trump misleadingly suggested the Obama administration was to blame for his administration’s policy that caused the separation of immigrant families.Trump falsely claimed that “less than 1%” of those caught crossing the border and released pending immigration hearings appear in court. The rate is about 50%, according to his own Justice Department.The president falsely claimed murderers and rapists are released under a so-called “catch and release” policy. In fact, immigration laws require such criminals be detained.Biden claimed the U.S. trade deficit with China went “up, not down” under Trump. In fact it was lower in 2019 than it was in Biden’s last year as vice president.Trump said African American income grew “nine times” more under his administration than under his predecessor. But that relies on figures Census says suffer from a pandemic-induced survey bias.The president quoted Anthony Fauci as saying the coronavirus was “not going to be a problem.” Fauci didn’t say that.Trump claimed that Biden wants to raise “everybody’s” taxes. Analysts say 80% would get a cut.Biden misquoted Sen. Mitch McConnell as saying, “Let them go bankrupt,” about cities and states that have lost revenue as a result of the pandemic. McConnell said bankruptcy should be a legal option for states with unrelated money woes.Trump again falsely claimed Biden would get rid of private health insurance. Biden opposed Medicare for All.Trump wrongly attributed the term “super-predator” to Biden. It was Hillary Clinton — not Biden — who applied the term to some “gangs of kids.”

And there were more repeated claims on the border wall, wind energy, face masks, North Korea and the Green New Deal.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Russia

The president baselessly accused Biden of receiving “$3.5 million from Russia and it came through Putin.”

Trump: Joe got $3.5 million from Russia and it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow. And it was the mayor Moscow’s wife. And you got $3.5 million. Your family got $3.5 million. And, you know, some day you’re going to have to explain why you got $3.5 [million].

The president is distorting the facts of a disputed account in a partisan report from a Republican-controlled Senate committee about Biden’s son, Hunter.

That report claimed that “an investment firm co-founded by Hunter Biden” received $3.5 million from Russian businesswoman Elena Baturina in 2014. Baturina was the wife of the former mayor of Moscow, Yuri Luzhkov, who was removed as mayor in 2010 by then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. At the time of the alleged payment, Baturina was living in London and Austria.

The report says nothing about Joe Biden receiving any money from that transaction, and it is not clear that Hunter Biden did, either. George Mesires, a lawyer for Hunter Biden, told the Washington Post that the allegation is false. Mesires said Hunter Biden was “not a co-founder of” the company, Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC, that is named in the report as receiving the payment from Baturina.

Biden & Trump on Minimum Wage

Both Trump and Biden erred on the likely effects of increasing the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour.

Biden went too far when he said there is “no evidence” that raising the minimum wage causes businesses to go bankrupt.

Biden: And there is no evidence that when you raise the minimum wage, businesses go out of business. That is simply not true.

He would have been correct to say the evidence is scanty.

It’s true that last year a Seattle-based restaurant chain, Restaurants Unlimited Inc., filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection claiming that minimum-wage increases in Seattle, San Francisco and Portland, Oregon, had pushed up its wage costs significantly. But the company also admitted that its troubles included opening two new restaurants where the expected number of customers failed to materialize — an unfortunate management decision.

Looking more broadly, three political scientists found, in a 1998 study published by the Journal of Economic Issues, that on average 48.4 businesses out of 10,000 failed in the year following an increase in the minimum wage. But that was not much different from the 47.6 failure rate in all other years.

Biden was responding to Trump’s claim that an increase in the minimum wage leads to firing employees.

Trump: What’s been proven to happen, is when you do that, these small businesses fire many of their employees.

Some research does support that claim — but it’s far from “proven.”

In 2019 the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office — after surveying scores of published economic research papers — concluded that raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour would boost the wages of 17 million workers and lift 1.3 million out of poverty — but at a cost of around 1.3 million low-wage jobs.

And that was a highly uncertain figure. CBO calculated that the odds are 2 in 3 that the loss of jobs would be somewhere between “about zero” and 3.7 million.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Wall Street

Twice, Trump falsely claimed that he hasn’t received money from Wall Street.

“You’re the one that takes all the money from Wall Street. I don’t take it,” Trump said to Biden. “You’re the one who takes the money from Wall Street, not me,” he said again moments later.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Biden’s campaign committee has so far received about $8 million from PACs and individuals working in the securities and investments industry — the most of any presidential candidate during the 2020 campaign cycle. But Trump’s campaign committee has received about $2.3 million from that industry — the second highest total of any candidate for president.

The securities and investments industry includes hedge funds, private equity firms and venture-capital firms.

Furthermore, when contributions to outside groups supporting their campaigns, such as super PACs, are factored in, Biden has received $57.7 million from that industry and Trump has received $13.8 million.

Social Security

Biden said of Trump, “This is the guy that the actuary of … Social Security [said] if in fact he continues his plan to withhold the tax on Social Security, Social Security will be bankrupt by 2023, with no way to make up for it.” Not so.

As we’ve written before, the Social Security Administration’s chief actuary analyzed “hypothetical legislation” that would eliminate the payroll tax that funds Social Security — not a plan from Trump.

On multiple occasions in August, the president did say if he wins reelection he would look at “ending” or “terminating the payroll tax.” But White House and Trump campaign officials said the president only wants Congress to forgive a four-month Social Security payroll tax holiday for employees that he authorized that month. Trump said Congress could transfer money from the government’s general fund to replace the lost tax revenue.

In an Aug. 24 letter, Stephen Goss, the Social Security Administration’s chief actuary, responded to a request from four senators to analyze a hypothetical proposal to reduce the Social Security payroll tax rate to 0% without providing an alternative source of funding. Goss said that would deplete the trust fund for retirement benefits by 2023, “with no ability to pay” benefits after that year.

But that’s not what Trump has proposed. Even when Trump said he was “going to terminate the payroll tax,” as he did in an Aug. 12 press conference, he said the money to pay benefits would instead come from general revenues. In his letter, Goss said enacting legislation with that stipulation would leave the Social Security’s finances and benefits “essentially unaffected.”


Anonymous said...

so...

Slow Joe thought it was a good idea to repeat 0linsky's 2013 LIE OF THE YEAR:

“Not one single person on private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan, nor did they under Obamacare. They did not lose their insurance unless they chose something else.”


LOL.

between that and promising to destroy the oil industry, he apparently put on one hell of a showing.

i can clearly see why the XiNN audience thinks he won the debate.

LOL.

Anonymous said...


Trump accused Biden of receiving “$3.5 million from Russia.” There’s no evidence of that.Biden said there’s “no evidence” that raising the minimum wage causes business bankruptcies.


nice semantic sleight of hand in both cases.

the $3.5 MILLION went to hunter. it is very safe to assume that "The Big Guy" got his 10% taste.

and raising the min wage does not always result in bankruptcies, but it has resulted in scores of businesses going OUT of business. and just because they shut down without declaring bankruptcy doesn't mean they aren't tits up.


you see alky, this is where you guys are.

you've been reduced to using semantics, sleight of hand, deception, half-truths and lies of omission to peddle your message and to prop up your candidate.

what a shitty way to exist. having to live a series of lies to survive.



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

rrb's last sentence above applies to Trumpistas far more than to Biden supporters

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Biden correctly pointed out that those who preferred their employment provided insurance could keep it. They were not forced to abandon it.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

This last debate, like the first, can be summarized in two words:

Biden's portion of the debate: DECENCY.
Trump's portion of the debate: TRUMP.

Anonymous said...



Blogger James said...

Biden correctly pointed out that those who preferred their employment provided insurance could keep it. They were not forced to abandon it.



this is what's commonly referred to as A COMPLETE FUCKING LIE.




Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Who won the Trump-Biden debate? Experts grade the candidates
NBC News

President Donald Trump was the most improved performer at Thursday's debate, but a panel of debate experts told NBC News that Joe Biden was more effective with his arguments.

The three experts all agreed the faceoff was more informative than the chaotic first debate in Cleveland last month, but one noted, "That's a very low bar."

While Trump's strategy of interrupting less and letting Biden speak more in hopes of provoking a gaffe from the former vice president was sound strategy, the experts said Biden didn't make the type of major mistake Trump probably needed to change the race.

Here are their report cards.

Mitchell McKinney, director of the Political Communication Institute at the University of Missouri

Overall: "It was more relaxed" than the first debate, with fewer interruptions, especially early on, McKinney said. Trump's relative restraint made sense, but he added, "I don't think it was as effective in terms of the overall dynamics of the debate."

On Trump: "Donald Trump seemed at times certainly perturbed, but restrained himself and wasn't going for the jugular" like he did in the first time, McKinney said. "He learned his lesson from the polls" after that, McKinney said, but the result put him "in a box." "He did not appear to be the authentic Donald Trump" on Thursday, he said.

On Biden: Was prepared for Trump's attacks on him and his family and "didn't get rattled," McKinney said. Biden was able to project empathy and took an effective page out of the Obama playbook while declaring he'd be a president of "not red states and blue states but the United States." Most importantly, he was "able to avoid any major gaffes or blunders that would have had supporters wringing their hands," McKinney said.

McKinney's report card:
Trump's grade: B-
Biden's grade: B+
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...


Susan Millsap, communications professor at Ohio’s Otterbein University and adviser to the student debate team

Overall: "It started better than the first one, but it slowly devolved a bit. The last 20 minutes or so the interruptions were increasing again and Trump was slowly turning it into a campaign speech," Millsap said.

"I was like, Oh no — don't do it. Towards the end Trump was back on his hyperbole and bombastic style," she said.

On Trump: Was effective in hitting some of the points he wanted to make. Many of his answers were reminiscent of his rallies, and he managed to bring answers on a wide-range of issues back to his support of businesses.

"He would fall back on businesses and how it would hurt or harm business. Even the race issue he brought back to business," Millsap said. "If you like that, you like what he's saying," she said.

On Biden: Presented himself as a man with plans. "He had a definite plan for the Covid, for the economy, healthcare. For race, he even laid out a plan," she said. Trump did nail him for sidestepping some questions, painting him as a typical politician, she added, but Millsap didn't think it was enough to harm him. Biden also allowed Trump to divert him from some of the topics they were discussing.

Millsap's report card:
Trump's grade: C-
Biden's grade: B
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Jacob Thompson, communications professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, and director of the debate team

Overall: "It was marked improvement from the first debate," and moderator Kristen Welker of NBC News "gets an A+" for her deft handling of the event. "Both candidates behaved like adults" but he added, "I don't think America should get too excited about about clearing the lowest bar of civility."

On Trump: "Relative to expectations, Trump won" because his performance was so much better than it was in the first debate, Thompson said. He did a good job of reining in his temper, which will result in lower unfavorable ratings, and was successful in trying "to muddy the waters around questions about Joe Biden's character. That's an effective appeal to Trump's base," Thompson said.

But the president failed to reach beyond his base, and his attempts at being empathetic rang hollow. "He needed an unforced error from Biden and he didn't get it," Thompson said, although an answer from Biden about phasing out the oil industry came close.

On Biden: "In substance and style, Biden did better," improving on his own performance from the first debate and in comparison to Trump. "He struck an empathetic tone several different times, and went back to portraying himself as a president who would unite the country," Thompson said. He rebounded on his answer about the oil industry with an explanation as to how it was a necessary transition away from fossil fuels that "was cogent enough," though "not earth-shattering."

Thompson's report card:
Trump's grade: B-
Biden's grade: B+

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Here's an analysis of the debate that's worth reading:
Four takeaways from a less abrasive but more revealing debate

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/10/23/4-takeaways-from-a-less-abrasive-but-more-revealing-debate-between-trump-and-biden/24659726/

High praise for the moderator. Even Trump was impressed and said so.

Anonymous said...



WGN poll, who won tonight?

Trump 74%

Biden 26%





Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Bottom line is that no minds were changed.

Biden has the lead and he has a higher chance of winning than Donald Trump.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A Nothingburger

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/522396-trump-biden-spar-during-less-combative-still-personal-final-debate

"Some of Trump’s allies believe that hitting Biden over his family's business dealings could drive down his favorability ratings. But other conservatives worry that the attacks are inconsequential to most voters and that Trump is wasting his time with less than two weeks until Election Day."
_________

That's been Ch's wasted tactic here.
It ain't working.

anonymous said...

Bottom line trump lied about covid and the kids......the slurpers dig in....WSJ publishes damning piece about the laptop....Bobba Luie as credible as mud......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I don't agree, Roger.
Some minds were changed.
Advantage, Biden.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

POLITICO:
Democrats Have Massive Lead In Early Vote
6:55 am EDT
“Democrats have opened up a yawning gap in early voting over Republicans in six of the most crucial battleground states — but that only begins to tell the story of their advantage heading into Election Day.

“In a more worrisome sign for Republicans, Democrats are also turning out more low-frequency and newly registered voters than the GOP, according to internal data shared with Politico by Hawkfish, a new Democratic research firm, which was reviewed by Republicans and independent experts.

“The turnout data does not mean Donald Trump will lose to Joe Biden. Both sides are bracing for a close race and a giant wave of Republicans to vote in person on Nov. 3. Yet the turnout disparity with new and less-reliable voters has forced Republican political operatives to take notice.”

Anonymous said...



Biden has the lead and he has a higher chance of winning than Donald Trump.


you mean like, BY A LANDSLIDE alky?

LOL.


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Possibly, yes.

Biden Holds Big Cash Advantage
6:58 am
“Joe Biden is carrying a cash advantage of more than $100 million over President Donald Trump into the final weeks of the election, according to newly filed campaign finance reports,” Politico reports.

Anonymous said...



Democrats are also turning out more low-frequency and newly registered voters than the GOP, according to internal data shared with Politico by Hawkfish, a new Democratic research firm, which was reviewed by Republicans and independent experts.

uh huh.

all the newbies and low freq voters ALWAYS can be counted on to vote democrat...

...says progressive democrat "research" (LOL) firm...


Powerful data insights to inform progressive initiatives.

Cutting-edge ad technology to drive their success.

Hawkfish helps Democratic candidates and aligned organizations engage the right audiences and motivate them to take action. We are a team of experienced tech engineers, data scientists, creatives and campaign veterans, bringing the best data and experience together to close the digital divide and make a positive impact in November and beyond.


https://www.hawkfish.us/

and just look at THIS cavalcade of stars:

https://www.hawkfish.us/who-we-are


LOL.





Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

rrb wants only the elite to vote

anonymous said...


all the newbies and low freq voters ALWAYS can be counted on to vote democrat...


And uneducated white boys and ag school drop outs support trump!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

THE WASHINGTON POST:
Trump Moves to Strip Civil Service Protections
6:31 am
“President Trump this week fired his biggest broadside yet against the federal bureaucracy by issuing an executive order that would remove job security from an estimated tens of thousands of civil servants and dramatically remake the government.

“The directive, issued late Wednesday, strips long-held civil service protections from employees whose work involves policymaking, allowing them to be dismissed with little cause or recourse, much like the political appointees who come and go with each administration.”

Sounds rather Hitler-esque, doesn't it?

anonymous said...

77 k new cases.....record and trump claims we have turned the corner!!! ND highest per capita rate......Thanx sturgis and R govern' who is doing nothing like trump!!!!!

Anonymous said...


Blogger James said...

rrb wants only the elite to vote



don't look now pederast, but tons of the blue collar union folk are voting Trump. and they are hardly elite.

if i only wanted the elite to vote i'd be a liberal democrat. home to the snooty, ivory tower, globalist, upper west side douchebags who look down on us in the unwashed masses, the middle class...

no pederast, i loathe the elite.




anonymous said...

11 days until vaccine is available!!!!!!!!

anonymous said...


no pederast, i loathe the elite.


BUT YOU STILL KISS TRUMPS FAT WHITE ASS!!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...


“The directive, issued late Wednesday, strips long-held civil service protections from employees whose work involves policymaking, allowing them to be dismissed with little cause or recourse, much like the political appointees who come and go with each administration.”


excellent. a policy move that is LONG overdue.

what entitles these asshats a job for life, anyway?

Trump should follow this up with a 20% headcount reduction across ALL agencies, and he should move as many agencies OUT of DC as possible.

perhaps the best place for the Dept. of the Interior is in, you guessed it, the INTERIOR of the US. let those personnel live among those who are affected by their policy decisions.



Anonymous said...



Sounds rather Hitler-esque, doesn't it?

Hitler removed civil service protections for German government workers, pederast?


LOL.

"Everyone I politically oppose is Hitler."

- said every liberal democrat, ever.

LOL.

anonymous said...

Funny I did not hear anything from trump about his planned healthcare that would be wonderful and take care of preexisting conditions!!!!!!! Wonder why??????

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/10/22/exclusive-dumb-mistake-exposed-iranian-hand-behind-fake-proud-boys-us-election-emails-sources/24659504/

Good video to watch. Good article.

"Stand back and stand by."
Trump's message to Proud Boys.

We Proud Boys are coming to get you if you don't change your registration to Republican and vote for Trump.
Hacked message received by numerous voters.
Source: Iran.

Anonymous said...

bye Joe

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

WITH APOLOGIES TO RRB, A REVISION:

rrb wants only the wealthy elite corrupt industrialists and corporate managers who are misleading the poor working classes into thinking that the Republican party is really for them, the underprivileged--
those are the elites and non elites rrb wants to vote, only.

EDITOR'S PICK
From the Pulpit:
What a modern Amos would say

JAMES BOSWELL For the Pantagraph 2 hrs ago

IN ancient Israel, the prophet Amos strongly condemned the wealthy who took advantage of the poor.

In our own time, political leaders beholden to wealthy backers are trying to distract us from the great robbery being committed against us all. They do this by trying to make us think our worst enemies are terrorists, illegal immigrants, people of other races and ethnicities, and even the poor. They say, “Just look at all those terrible people! See how they cause violence and sow disharmony among you by destroying your inner cities, endangering your suburbs, and taking advantage of the welfare system. They are your greatest enemies, a threat to you and your families.”

In saying this, they attempt to divert attention from our true enemies, the wealthier classes who are committing a far greater, if more subtle, act of violence against us all. By adding to the enormous wealth disparity of our nation, they deprive us of what government was intended to provide, the common welfare. They want us to consider a few instances of violence and looting as worse than the far greater looting perpetrated by the multinational corporate executors, investors, and board members who cynically exploit and steal from all of us.

While encouraging us to regard the poor, non-whites, and immigrants as our greatest enemies, these large-scale looters use government to protect their own selfish economic interests. By appealing to society’s discomfort with different races, immigration statuses, and sexual preferences, they hope to keep us from uniting against our far worse enemies, the outrageously privileged few who not only threaten but cynically exploit and rob our entire society by keeping the economy humming along in ways that are good for Wall Street but not for our streets, and by passing laws and appointing judiciaries intended to support tax cuts for the wealthy, deregulation of corporations, and elimination of environmental protections.

In doing this, they hope to prevent us from demanding government that really is “of, by, and for the people,” government that works for the good of all by providing upward mobility through progressive taxes, protection of pro-labor laws, and better health and economic possibilities for everyone.

All this, perhaps, a modern Amos might say to us today.
_____________

Boswell is a retired pastor of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). Contact him through his website, www.TheDeadSeaGospel.com.

Anonymous said...

James and Roger.

No need to wait, stop using oil now.
No need to wait, be leaders.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Bruised and discolored hands: Why?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mitch-mcconnells-hands/

Anonymous said...

An automatic debate loss 2 fee.

Projection and lies.

🤤rrb wants only the wealthy elite corrupt industrialists and corporate managers🤤

anonymous said...

As the goat fucker continues to live in the past in his mommy's basement and thinks GW is a hoax......wonder if smoke from Co is hitting his shit hole in Kansas?????????? bWAAAAAAAAAA

anonymous said...

.
Bruised and discolored hands: Why?


From jerking trump off!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

TRUMP SAYS WE HAVE TURNED THE CORNER, BUT---
Coronavirus Cases Hit New U.S. High
7:55 am

The U.S. set a record Thursday as the number of new coronavirus cases rose to over 77,000, topping the previous record in July, NBC News reports.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

When he was younger, Donald Trump called himself, a "proud, pro choice Democrat."

If, in those years, he had spent less time reading and admiring the speeches and life of Adolf Hitler
and more time reading about and studying the life and times of Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
he would have come to understand how a wealthy man could be loved and respected by the masses,
by the workers whom he really helped,
and especially by blacks and all the other underprivileged of our land.

He would also have come to understand why today many of our best historians consider FDR to be one of our very greatest presidents
-- among the top two, or three, or four.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Donald Trump's ex-wife once said Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed
--Business Insider Sep 1, 2015

According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed.

"Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed ... Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist," Marie Brenner wrote.

Hitler was one of history's most prolific orators, building a genocidal Nazi regime with speeches that bewitched audiences.

"He learned how to become a charismatic speaker, and people, for whatever reason, became enamored with him," Professor Bruce Loebs, who has taught a class called the Rhetoric of Hitler and Churchill for the past 46 years at Idaho State University, told Business Insider earlier this year.

"People were most willing to follow him, because he seemed to have the right answers in a time of enormous economic upheaval."

When Brenner asked Trump about how he came to possess Hitler's speeches, "Trump hesitated" and then said, "Who told you that?"
"I don't remember," Brenner reportedly replied.

Trump then recalled, "Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of 'Mein Kampf,' and he's a Jew."

Brenner added that Davis did acknowledge that he gave Trump a book about Hitler.

"But it was 'My New Order,' Hitler's speeches, not 'Mein Kampf,'" Davis reportedly said. "I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish."

After Trump and Brenner changed topics, Trump returned to the subject and reportedly said, "If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."*

In the Vanity Fair article, Ivana Trump told a friend that her husband's cousin, John Walter "clicks his heels and says, 'Heil Hitler," when visiting Trump's office.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

* A lie, no doubt.

Here's the entire Vanity Fair article:

https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/share/e515a2cd-a51b-4f83-8d61-6ebb9a104e0a


anonymous said...

He also claimed there was a cure for covid.......Fact Check.....complete BS!!!!!

Anonymous said...




Here's the entire Vanity Fair article:


from September 1990.

LOL.

Anonymous said...

Notice how badly JOE lost.
The three socialist stogges desperately try to change the subject.

Lost the debate here as well.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

OPINION
Why Joe Biden won the final debate
by Damon Linker, The Week

In Nashville on Thursday night Donald Trump and Joe Biden fought to a draw on the debate stage — which means that Biden won, and won big. That's because he holds a national polling lead of nearly ten points, he's been leading solidly on every day of the campaign from the beginning, the election is less than two weeks away, and the president did nothing in their final confrontation that's likely to change the shape of the race.

Not that he didn't try. Trump came out swinging and was his usual rude, mendacious, and petulant self. But he wasn't quite the rampaging, appallingly boorish jerk he chose to be at the first debate three weeks ago in Cleveland. He frequently talked over moderator Kristen Welker and insisted on speaking longer than his allotted time, but he dialed back the aggressiveness just enough to keep from coming off as a thug and a bully. For that reason, I doubt his numbers will sink in the way they did right after the candidates sparred in late September.

Biden was better this time, too. Without Trump constantly talking over him and spewing a nonstop torrent of lies, he was able to formulate cogent responses to questions and the barrage of attacks from his opponent. He also managed to go on the offense with the president over the pandemic, health care, foreign policy, climate change, and other subjects. Biden's best moment came midway through when Trump attempted, as he did in the first debate, to portray the former vice president as more left-wing than he is. This prompted Biden to respond sharply, referring to his 20-odd opponents during the Democratic primaries, many of whom were to his left, "[Trump is] a very confused guy... he thinks he's running against someone else. He's running against Joe Biden. I beat all those other people because I disagreed with them."

The strangest moments of the evening came when Trump tried repeatedly to invoke the series of murky stories about the business dealings of the Democrat's son, Hunter Biden, that have appeared in The New York Post and in the opinion pages of The Wall Street Journal over the past week or so. These stories have all the hallmarks of a Roger Stone-inspired dirty-tricks sliming operation. Their sourcing is murky and they insinuate wrongdoing on Joe Biden's part that never quite gets substantiated. But that didn't keep Trump from referring conspiratorially to elements of the stories involving Ukraine, China, money, payments, and percentages in a way that surely dumbfounded nearly every person watching the debate.

Biden was smart to let Trump drone on about all of this at length and then respond with a blanket assertion that he had done nothing wrong and had taken no payments from any foreign government. Unless Trump and his water-carriers in the right-wing media can come up with something more than they have so far, this story will end up being just another failed gimmick in a campaign that has tried a series of them over the past several months.

Rivaling the Hunter Biden distraction for sheer outlandishness was Trump's attempt to hit Biden from the left on not one but two issues. On several past occasions the president has made a point of raising Biden's support for the 1994 crime bill and comments at the time about predatory criminals — as if Trump himself hasn't spent the past four years flattering cops, chanting a mantra of "law and order," and attempting to sow fear among suburbanites about the dangers of urban crime.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

But in Nashville, Trump went further, trying to deflect criticism about the severe cruelties of his administration's family-separation policy by repeatedly asking Biden, "Who built the cages?" Apparently Trump meant to imply that building holding pens for immigrants along the southern border is morally worse than using them to hold children who have been forcibly taken from their parents. In case anyone doubted that it was an exercise in gaslighting, the president clarified by bragging about how those kids have been "so well taken care of."

Biden began to flag in the final third of the 90-minute debate. Over and over again, Trump treated him as if he'd been president for eight years and done nothing. "You're all talk and no action" was the repeated message. Biden could have responded, "I wasn't in charge then, but you're the president right now, and the country's in serious trouble because you're in way over your head." Instead, Biden seemed a little stuck, not wanting to distance himself too much from the record of the Obama administration — or especially from Obama himself, who remains quite popular in the Democratic Party, with Black voters, and in the country more generally. So he sort of wanly dismissed the charge with hand gestures and facial expressions.

The Democrat rebounded in the debate's final question. Asked what each of them would say if they won the election to those who didn't vote for them, Trump didn't answer and instead veered off into a mix of bragging about the past four years and promises about the next four. But Biden returned to top form, speaking (as he had earlier in the evening) about how he wouldn't be the president of blue states or red states but of the whole United States. He'd strive for unity and work to bring the country together.

That's a solid but not especially inspiring closing argument. It's certainly better than "Let's have more four more years of The Trump Show!" And that means it's more than good enough to power Joe Biden through the final 12 days of a campaign he was winning before Thursday night and is exceedingly likely to keep right on winning.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

JAMES SAID:
Here's the entire Vanity Fair article:

RAT SAYS:
from September 1990.
LOL
__________

JAMES SAYS:
That's right rat. Trump's wife would have even fresher memories of him reading Hitler's speeches back then.

anonymous said...


from September 1990.


Which proved he was a nazi lover long before he came on the scene, idiot!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!

Anonymous said...



Donald Trump may be the most pro-Jewish president ever


https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/donald-trump-may-be-the-most-pro-jewish-president-ever/amp/?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR0DEMDsNsAXykP6pGaj422vYHa9vJjN5dFn4uZ8_AuGcIXtqeXp_VC6Y0M


WORST. HITLER. EVER.

LOL.


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Our aggregate from January through August of this year shows a
29% Trump job approval rating among Jews, with
69% disapproval.

Over this same period, Trump's overall job approval rating was 42%.
In 2017, the first year of his presidency, Trump's Gallup job approval rating among Jews was 30%.
In 2018, based on an aggregate of Gallup surveys, it was 35%.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

That was from 2019. This is from 2020:

Americans who identify their religion as Jewish represent about 2% of the U.S. adult population. Roughly seven in 10 Jews voted for Clinton over Trump in 2016. Current disapproval of Trump among Jewish Americans in Gallup's data is roughly 70% ...indicating no sign of a major shift in the Democratic skew of the Jewish vote.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Another Poll Finds Biden Won the Debate
9:17 am
A new YouGov poll finds 54% of voters who watched last night’s presidential think Joe Biden won, while 35% think Donald Trump won.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

*** FANTASTIC MORNING !!! ***

KansasDemocrat said...
Notice how badly JOE lost.
The three socialist stogges desperately try to change the subject.

Lost the debate here as well.


FACT CHECK: TRUE

the facial expressions of the FAKE NEWS anchors looked like when Trump won his first term.

PRICELESS !!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

After reading the truthers scrambling to see some positive results..

We’re now less than two weeks before election day. At present Trump is losing badly. Every day the trajectory of the race doesn’t change is a disaster for the President. I saw nothing in this debate that shifts the trajectory of the race. And that means a big win for Joe Biden.

Especially the polls

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Jeff Poor
@jeff_poor

"I hope Joe Biden has his dental records on file so we can at least identify the body after this debate." -- @mattgaetz on "Hannity"

Anonymous said...




OCT 22, 2020 10:37 PM EST | STEPHEN GREEN

Corruption, ineptitude, senility... forget all of it.

Biden talked about American values and didn't once mention freedom or equality before the law.

That's all you need to know about Joe Biden.



Anonymous said...



Blogger James said...
That was from 2019. This is from 2020:



Donald Trump may be the most pro-Jewish president ever
By Josh Hammer

October 22, 2020 | 7:20pm

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

During the final presidential debate, President Trump made reference to “the laptop from hell,” “AOC plus three″ and “Russia, Russia, Russia” — yes, said three times in a row.
The material was very familiar to — and maybe only familiar to — regular viewers of Fox News opinion hosts such as Sean Hannity.
“I feel like he almost was speaking the language of Fox prime time,” Chuck Todd, host of “Meet the Press,” said on NBC after the debate. “If you watch a lot of Fox prime time, you understand what he’s saying. If you don’t, you have no idea.”

After the debate I checked out PJ media and Fox and Breitbart news to find the talking points. Nutcases squad

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

gillian geeyon
@gillianbdoll

“I never took a penny...” from Joe Biden is equivalent to “I never had sex with that woman” from Bill Clinton

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

. I am the least racist person in this room,”

. I am the least racist person in this room,”

. I am the least racist person in this room,” 

. I am the least racist person in this room.

Mexicans are murders and rapist


. I am the least racist person in this room,” 


Anonymous said...



i had just had a conversation on wednesday with a friend who, before 0linsky-care - had health insurance for himself and his family that he loved.

thanks to 0linsky-care he now pays $1000.00/month, with a $12,000.00 deductible.

he must've been ripping if he watched the debate and saw Biden tell the 2013 LIE OF THE YEAR.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Clinton left office 20 years ago trool

Anonymous said...


Mexicans are murders and rapist


. I am the least racist person in this room,”



you see alky, this is where you guys are.

you've been reduced to using semantics, sleight of hand, deception, half-truths and lies of omission to peddle your message and to prop up your candidate.

what a shitty way to exist. having to live a series of lies to survive.


Anonymous said...

Attention Seeking Liar

"James October 23, 2020 at 6:06 AM

"rrb wants only the elite to vote"Jane

Anonymous said...

Joe looked at his watch.
Past his bed time.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Roger Amick said...
Clinton left office 20 years ago trool



Biden came into office 47 years ago

ROFLMFAO !!!

Anonymous said...



so...

is Slow Joe an da Ho putting a lid on it until election day?

LOL.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


cum allah is not sure how to do a press conference.

at least with social distancing and without knee pads

Hasn't had one since becoming the VP nominee.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Fact Check

Trump

Trump’s COVID-19 Claims

In defending his administration’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which has now claimed more than 220,000 American lives, Trump trotted out many go-to lines that are either incorrect or misleading. 

Lives saved. He started out by claiming that 2.2 million Americans “were expected to die.” But that misconstrues a projection, made in March by Imperial College London, for the number of lives that could be lost if absolutely no action was taken. 

Far from being a realistic estimate of the number of U.S. lives that would be lost, the report said the 2.2 million figure reflects “the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behaviour.”

Excess mortality. Trump also touted the U.S.’s excess mortality rate, falsely claiming that it is “much lower than almost any other country.” As we explained last week after Trump’s NBC town hall, America’s excess mortality figures, which refer to the number of people who died from any cause, relative to a “normal” or expected number of deaths, are not particularly good. 

A Journal of the American Medical Association analysis found that relative to 14 other countries, the U.S. had a higher per capita excess mortality rate than all but two countries since the start of the pandemic through late July.

Our analysis of figures from the Human Mortality Database similarly showed that the U.S.’s excess mortality rate is higher than 30 out of the 34 other countries included in the database. 

A ‘cure.’ The president also referenced Regeneron’s antibody cocktail that he received to treat COVID-19, and suggested, as he has before, that the experimental treatment is a cure. 

“I had something that they gave me, a therapeutic, I guess they would call it — some people could say it was a cure — but I was in for a short period of time,” he said. “And I got better very fast or I wouldn’t be here tonight.” 

As we’ve written, it’s impossible to know whether Trump benefited from the drug, but in any case, the therapy is still being tested in clinical trials. Although early results are promising, it’s still unknown whether the cocktail is safe and effective for COVID-19.

He is a mess

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC

Underrated part of the night was Joe flailing to defend himself and ends up blasting at Barack Obama who JUST got done campaigning for him.

“Well I wasn’t president. I was Vice President. Things will be different when I’m in charge.”


ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Donald Trump may be the most pro-Jewish president ever
By Josh Hammer
_____________

His opinion?
American Jews certainly do not think so. See the polls.

Anonymous said...



“Well I wasn’t president. I was Vice President. Things will be different when I’m in charge.”


absolutely.

after 47 years in DC, Slow Joe will have a whole new way of doing things. promise.

LOL.

Anonymous said...



American Jews certainly do not think so. See the polls.


don't be shy, pederast. link us up.

bold claim. support it.

anonymous said...

https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/70-percent-of-jewish-americans-support-joe-biden-new-poll-645644


bold claim. support it.



It is not a bold claim you dumb fucking loser......It is a fact that anyone should know except for ag school drop outs like you!!!!!! Be Be and trump get along because they are both crooks .....seems to me BeBe is under water also!!!!

Commonsense said...

Blogger James said...
Future generations will ask us, Why didn't you spend even more in time, money, and research dedicated to getting us away from all polluting forms of energy use and creating the multitudinous non polluting jobs which can use clean energy technology


I imagine if you get your way James future generation will curse for condemning them to a life of misery, starvation, and want for a shame theory.

BTW if nuclear power is not in your conversation then you are not serious about getting off fossil fuels.