Friday, November 27, 2020

If someone chooses to click on a link and read a story...

who is anyone to tell them that they are not entitled or should not be viewing that information?

To be clear, I am not talking about a link that is offering to take someone to child porn or a link to a malicious site which is intending to download viruses to that person's computer. I am talking about a link to a story about something that is describing something actually happening in the world.


Now obviously in the hyper-aggressive woke cancel culture, there are people who do want to control what others are exposed to and are able to see. These people do not work in the old fashioned way of actually making an argument or otherwise attempting discrediting something they believe to be misleading or false. They seemly want to bully their way into controlling what arguments are or can be made. If they disagree with a line of thinking, that line of thinking should go away.

This week, attorney Sidney Powell dropped more election lawsuits. Much of what Sidney Powell has been suggesting would make for better reading in a fiction novel than a lawsuit. But Powell also brings up legitimate issues as well. Legal experts much smarter than I believe that she has raised enough legal  questions with enough affidavits, that under normal circumstances would have allowed portions of these cases to make at least make it to discovery. The problem with election lawsuits is that there is no time for discovery. You either bring proof up front or go home.
In a normal case, this pleading would be enough to get into the discovery phase, at which point documents and systems could be inspected, and more testimony taken. The problem here is that we have a short deadline until the electoral college process kicks in, and there’s not enough time. 
The other thing worth noting is that much of the mockery of Powell has been undeserved. She has evidence, a lot of evidence, that this was a severely problematic election. If she had months or years to pursue this through the normal litigation methods, maybe she would prove that what was possible actually happened. Her biggest enemy at this point is the calendar. (link)
All that being said, if you attempted to click on a link that would take you to Sidney Powell's lawsuits or stories about these lawsuits, your social media outlets (Facebook and Twitter) were blocking them. This was done under the guise that the links might be unsafe. (You can see picture above for what happened in Twitter if you attempted to view a link taking you to the actual PDF of the lawsuit). Perhaps the truth (that Twitter is censoring information they don't like) is a bridge too far for even them to openly admit. After all, how can an election lawsuit not be considered "real" or otherwise "news". Even the worst lawsuit in the history of legal proceedings would still be news (if only for the fact that it was bad). 

Moreover, Powell's Twitter account was also suspended, as were two different elected members of "Congress" who have also been advocates of protesting or contesting the 2020 election. Apparently the idea of actually protesting or contesting an election is now grounds to have your twitter account suspended or removed.

The irony is that the media spent three years chasing the concept that President Trump was a Russian asset who worked with Vladimir Putin to steal an election. No place was more home to the craziest of the theories than Twitter. To see these same people so arrogant and self absorbed, as they hypocritically attack everyone and anyone who suggests the 2020 election might have had some flaws is scary. To see Twitter do the complete 180 as to what might be allowed on their site is crazy. Censorship isn't even the right word. We need to find a new word to describe this.


131 comments:

Myballs said...

Twitter, Facebook and Google are screaming to be regulated.

Anonymous said...


Censorship isn't even the right word. We need to find a new word to describe this.


call it what it is - fascism.

we do need to regulate these clowns. and stripping them of their precious sec. 230 protections would be a good start. the problem, obviously, is that they're doing the bidding of the democrats. and as long as democrats continue to benefit, nothing get's done.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The social media companies were given their first amendment rights to determine what they wanted to they wanted to allow.

The free press has the same authority.

The freedom of the press is a foundation of the United states of America.

The internet is not limiting anything! Even child porn sites are allowed, but the government can prosecute them.

Fox news is free to spread fake news robotics, as well as Thecoldheartedtruth!

If you would be allowed to file domestic suits against them because they blocked the President, you would in effect censoring Facebook, Twitter and Google.

The free press is sometimes a fucking pain in the ass, but it's worth it.

Myballs said...

First amendment allows that right to the rest of us. It also allows freedom of worship. But Roger wants to pick and choose which to support.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You were allowed to post fake information about the covid-19 pandemic, masking and social media.

I thought you had lost your mind Scott, but you have the first President right to choose to be gaslighted and post false information!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ballsless, I'm an absolutist on the freedom of speech except for shouting fire in a movie theater

Myballs said...

But Twitter, Google and Facebook don't get to be the arbiters of what is true or false.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Newsmax and PJ media and other media outlets can spread false information, but Google is not required to let them shout fire in the crowded United States.

But that is not censorship. It is their absolute right to choose what they want to broadcast on their platforms

Myballs said...

No you're not. You just supported the three companies unilaterally asserting 5hst they can sensor whomever they want. That is not absolutist.

Myballs said...

An opposing argument is far from yelling fire in a theatre. Your analogy is just absued hyperbole.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ballsless Twitter, Google and Facebook have the absolute right to be the arbiters of what is true or false. You can't force them to spread information on anything!

Caliphate4vr said...

The social media companies were given their first amendment rights to determine what they wanted to they wanted to allow.

Oh, I'm bein' followed by a word salad, word salad, word salad
Leapin and hoppin' on a word salad, word salad, word salad

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

yelling fire in a theatre is legal precedence.

The original intent is a conservative philosophy.

The Supreme Court has ruled a long time

Caliphate4vr said...

Better get’em now, when dementia Joe and the ho get in, all bets are off

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Mohsen Fakhrizadeh is referred to as Iran's Robert Oppenheimer, the American scientist who helped father the atomic bomb in 1945.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The social media companies were given their first amendment rights to determine what they wanted to they wanted to allow, or not allow.

Their first amendment right asshole!

Myballs said...

No they do not! You are advocating the same sort of censorship we used to joke about with Pravda in the Soviet Union 30 years ago. They don't get to have it both ways.

Anonymous said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

Ballsless, I'm an absolutist on the freedom of speech except for shouting fire in a movie theater



which is exactly why you referred to OANN as "bullshit" just the other day, and cheered their being censored and de-platformed.

alky, your lack of understanding of this topic is exceeded only by the LIES you're willing to tell to defend your absurd position.

any TRUE free speech absolutists abhors the behavior of fakebook twitter and google. abhors the de-platforming of anyone.

you cheer this shit, and hide behind your idiotic contention that they have the right to do it. all because it helps your team.

so for once stop being a liar and a hack and simply admit that you love this behavior because it works for you.


Caliphate4vr said...


The social media companies were given their first amendment rights to determine what they wanted to they wanted to allow, or not allow.


That didn’t help, Alky

Round 3?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President Obama ordered the assassination of bin Laden

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

The social media companies were given their first amendment rights to determine what they wanted to they wanted to allow, or not allow.


no.

they weren't.

by posting this statement you're admitting that you don't have the first fucking clue as to how any of this works.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Google, Facebook and Twitter have the right to choose to carry their bullshit or not.

The first amendment rights asshole

Myballs said...

Twitter's first amendment right supersedes ours. Absolutist my ass.

Anonymous said...


That didn’t help, Alky

Round 3?



he's been schooled on this topic so many times i've lost count.

his invincible ignorance is impenetrable.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CDA 230 also offers its legal shield to bloggers who act as intermediaries by hosting comments on their blogs. Under the law, bloggers are not liable for comments left by readers, the work of guest bloggers, tips sent via email, or information received through RSS feeds. This legal protection can still hold even if a blogger is aware of the objectionable content or makes editorial judgments.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You would have been terrible lawyers .

Anonymous said...



this is what they're hiding behind, and this is what needs to be tajen away.:

(c)Protection for “Good Samaritan” blocking and screening of offensive material

(1)Treatment of publisher or speaker

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.

(2)Civil liability

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of—

(A)any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or

(B)any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access to material described in paragraph (1).[1]



https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230

remove THIS and let the Powell's and NY Post's of the world feast upon the bank accounts of these traitorous scumbags.


Myballs said...

Roger is comparing Google to a blogger.

That's the stupidest thing I'll probably read all day.

Caliphate4vr said...


Anonymous Myballs said...
Roger is comparing Google to a blogger.

That's the stupidest thing I'll probably read all day.


Patience he’ll beat that

Anonymous said...



state the law, alky. not the interpretation of some liberal activist at EFF.

and yeah, that's where you plagiarized the shit you posted.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CDA 230 makes the U.S. a safe haven for websites that want to provide a platform for controversial or political speech and a legal right to choose what they want to broadcast, including child porn or legal porn from the right wing nutcase websites..

If this goes to the Supreme Court, even the conservative majority will not allow domestic censorship.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230

Anonymous said...


Anonymous Myballs said...

Roger is comparing Google to a blogger.


this is always the most hilarious part of 'debating' an issue with the alky.

the connections he makes and conclusions he draws are as absurd and disjointed as one can imagine. then he doubles and triples down on his stupidity while declaring himself the winner.

LOL.

Pigeon chess

Refers to having a pointless debate with somebody utterly ignorant of the subject matter, but standing on a dogmatic position that cannot be moved with any amount of education or logic, but who always proclaims victory.


https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pigeon%20chess


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Blogger hasn't censored Thecoldheartedtruth. But they have the authority under 320.

Myballs said...

Google is not a website. Twitter is not a website. Don't be so damn stupid.

Anonymous said...



If this goes to the Supreme Court, even the conservative majority will not allow domestic censorship.

uh, dumbass...

censorship is happening RIGHT NOW.

removing sec. 230 protections removes their ability to censor without civic liability.

as usual, you're arguing for the exact opposite of what you think you're standing for.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

www.google.com is a website

www.facebook.com is a website

www.twitter.com is a website

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

www.google.com

www.facebook.com

www.twitter.com


Click any of them!!LMAO

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

www.google.com is a website

www.facebook.com is a website

www.twitter.com is a website



you dumb fuck.

they're platforms, publishers actually, who allow public access to their platforms VIA a fucking web interface.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The racist rodent bastard posted

Blogger Roger Amick said...

www.google.com is a website

www.facebook.com is a website

www.twitter.com is a website


you dumb fuck.

they're platforms, publishers actually, who allow public access to their platforms.
.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.

They have the absolute right to choose what they want to print, or broadcast via the internet.

Myballs said...

Roger....seriously?? You think we're talking only about their wrbsites??

Anonymous said...


Anonymous Myballs said...

Roger....seriously?? You think we're talking only about their wrbsites??



LOL. yup.

and then he proceeds to make an even BIGGER fool of himself posting the language of the first amendment in bold because he actually think it makes him look smart.

C.H. Truth said...

The social media companies were given their first amendment rights to determine what they wanted to they wanted to allow.

The basic failure for our feeble nursing home resident to understand the difference between a section 240 public forum social media site... and a non section 240 media site is amazing.

The fact that it can be explained to him over and over and over and he still will never understand it... is exactly why he proves himself to be Roger the witless.


It's also one of the reasons that it has become useless to engage certain people in certain arguments, because they have no basic underlying understanding of the issue... but demand that they do.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The internet is not mentioned in the Constitution because it didn't exist 240 years ago until Al Gore started promoting the internet.

But when someone brings it to the Supreme Court, I strongly believe that even the conservative majority will recognize the internet and websites are protected by the first amendment.

Anonymous said...



But when someone brings it to the Supreme Court, I strongly believe that even the conservative majority will recognize the internet and websites are protected by the first amendment.


so where in the First Amendment is the right to censor?


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott asshole is getting worse every day over the fact that I outthink him every day.


when someone brings it to the Supreme Court, I strongly believe that even the conservative majority will recognize the internet and websites are protected by the first amendment.

You want the President to be able to censor Facebook etc. When they publish negative news about the lame duck President

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The New York times is not required to publish your letters to the editors.

Facebook, Google and Twitter have the same rights.

You can get your own personal website and publish anything you want!

Anonymous said...



yeah, that's it alky.

you're quite the "outthinker."

it takes a real genius to drink himself to a liver transplant and end up in a nursing home.

you're invincible ignorance is on fire today.

LOL.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The social media era is very different than any time in history.

I strongly believe that eventually the social media will be given the same first amendment rights.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your response is evidence of being out thought. Lolololololololololol

C.H. Truth said...

Let's make this simple...

and if Roger the feeble, still doesn't get it, then it just proves he is stupid, stupid, stupid.


1) Under an open forum platform, "Twitter" has no "first amendment rights" as they are not considered the author of anything. They are simply "providing a forum" for others to author things.

2) Under an open forum platform, the individual Twitter account holders are the publishers (for all legal purposes) and are responsible for that content.

In other words... the First Amendment right to free speech is held by the publisher (or the authors of the tweets) - not the people who operate the forum (who under Section 230 are not considered publisher and are not responsible for the content of what is on their forum).


When Nick Sandmann filed his lawsuits against the major publishers (WaPo, CNN, etc...) he didn't sue the authors, but rather the publishers (the owners of the media sites). Because those media sites are responsible for the content.

Nick Sandmann is not allowed to sue Twitter or Facebook for any of the content, because neither is considered the publisher and are considered open public forums. Technically Sandmann could sue individual twitter users, but there would be no sense in that (due to a lack of resources by the individuals).


So if you want the real legal and moral equivalent here.

Your own Twitter account is a media platform in and of itself. You do not work for Twitter and you are not an author for Twitter. By section 230 laws, Twitter "can" (but is not required to) monitor your forum for damaging information such as illegal activity, some forms of porn, public decency, violence, etc...

This is no different from this website being my own personal platform (and Blogger.com is neither responsible for or will they moderate what I write on this site) even though Blogger provides the forum for me at no charge.



So when you talk about Coldheartedtruth as a website, my freedom to post what I want on this blog is EXACTLY LEGALLY THE SAME as my freedom to post on Twitter.

Every time Twitter censors something I write that Blogger.com would not, is an instance where they have crossed the line from being a non-publishing public forum... to becoming a "publisher" by controlling content.

Once they become a "publisher" then they are responsible for all content. They cannot "pick and choose" to be a little bit of both.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, did you know you would not be held liable for defamatory statements contained on this blog?

If it is overturned, you might be liable to civil charges.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, I know under 320 they are considered as publishers.

I strongly believe that eventually the social media will be given the same first amendment rights. When it reaches the Supreme Court. But I don't understand why you aren't worried about limiting the first amendment rights.



If it is overturned, you might be liable to civil charges.


Beaners and moose limbs

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Not considered

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Once they become a "publisher" then they are NOT responsible for all content.  Under the first amendment!


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.

They are 99.9% protected from the government or private companies or people.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Once more!!!!!!!!

"Once they become a "publisher" then they are responsible for all content. They cannot "pick and choose" to be a little bit of both."

You are 100% incorrect.

They can publish anything they want, and not publish anything they want!

C.H. Truth said...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.

You can repeat that till you are blue in the face, Roger...

That doesn't change the fact that Twitter doesn't author anything, is not legally considered a media publisher, and therefor is not "speaking" in any manner, shape, or form.

How are they entitled to free speech when legally they are not engaging in any speaking of any sort?



The individual accounts on Twitter (however) are engaging in their rights to free speech under the laws that control a public forum.

Every time Twitter (who is neither an author or a publisher) censors a tweet, they are breaking that first amendment right.



But hey... if you want to argue that the individual American is not entitled to free speech in a public forum... so be it!

It would par for the course for liberals. Getting rid of the first amendment so corporations and the Government can control what people say is what you stand for...

Of course governments along with major corporations controlling the speech of individuals... is somehow what the First Amendment protections are about... huh?

Fucking idiot!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

James, I suspect that he will not respond directly, instead he will call me a mentally disabled man.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, go ahead and write a letter to the editor.

If he refuses to publish your letter, is he denying your first amendment rights,??

I won't hold my breath until you respond directly.

C.H. Truth said...

James, I suspect that he will not respond directly, instead he will call me a mentally disabled man.

Which Roger writes... right after I responded to him directly.


Proving for once and for all that Roger is a mentally disabled feeble old nursing home resident who believes that the Government and Big corporations are who the first Amendment is designed to protect... from what individual Americans say.

Not the other way around!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I hope that the next administration will write an executive order, declaring the social media companies are protected by the first amendment.

C.H. Truth said...

Scott, go ahead and write a letter to the editor.

If he refuses to publish your letter, is he denying your first amendment rights,??



FOR CHRIST'S SAKE ROGER...

DO YOU NOT PAY ANY ATTENTION AT ALL???

A local newspaper IS a publisher and is allowed to pick and choose what to print and what not to.

A local newspaper is NOT A PUBLIC FORUM!!!

But Twitter is??


There is absolutely ZERO similarity to a newspaper and Twitter.


Twitter themselves continue to argue the same exact thing. Because if they didn't they could be sued by everyone who is harmed by any tweet (Just as Nick Sandmann was able to sue actual media publishers).

They are actually DENYING that they are removing tweets, suspending accounts, or anything for political reasons. They ARE NOT making a first amendment argument (only you are dumb enough to do that).

Twitter is literally attempting to use the Section 230 language that states they can remove "dangerous" content by demanding that certain view points are "dangerous".



Sorry Roger.

I am done with this stupid argument with this stupid man.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Eventually, the social media companies will be granted first amendment rights.

That doesn't mean that the government will overturn the first amendment.

You are sitting there betraying the Constitution.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

James, I suspect that he will not respond directly, instead he will call me a mentally disabled man.



well fuckstick,

since he HAS responded to you directly, not just once but several times, we are left to conclude that you ARE mentally disabled, as you are bolstering that assertion.

honestly alky, i don't know why this topic is repeatedly your hill to die on. you've been schooled on virtually every single facet of sec. 230 (not 320) countless times here. you have been proven to be demonstrably and factually WRONG every single fucking time. what you HAVE accomplished is you have held out yourself to be a shining example of the existence of invincible ignorance:

The invincible ignorance fallacy[1] is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word, the method instead being to either make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing; all without actually demonstrating how the objection fit these terms (see ad lapidem fallacy).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy

Anonymous said...



Twitter is literally attempting to use the Section 230 language that states they can remove "dangerous" content by demanding that certain view points are "dangerous".

precisely.

and the alky approves. he approves because it helps his team. he could have a shred of credibility if he simply came out and admitted as much. there are honest leftists that do admit that what twitter et. al. is doing is wrong, but since they enjoy the fruits of it, so be it.

and since the alky can't be honest, he wants to appear virtuous, so he holds up the logical fallacy of the First Amendment as relevant, when nothing could be further from the truth.





C.H. Truth said...

So Rat...

What Roger is arguing is simple.

The old fool literally believes that the first amendment protects the right of big brother to control the speech of individual Americans in any and all public forums!


It's not his lack of understanding of 230... it's quite literally that he believes that censorship IS freedom of speech and that censorship is what is protected by the First Amendment.


Might actually be his dumbest argument yet!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Eventually, the social media companies will be granted first amendment rights.

That doesn't mean that the government will overturn the first amendment.

You are sitting there betraying the Constitution.


huh?

you've been saying all along that the first amendment has been providing these media companies with the right to censor.

now you're saying that they'll eventually be granted First Amendment rights???


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

There is absolutely ZERO similarity to a newspaper and Twitter. Under 320.

It has not yet reached the court system.

Zero intelligence has surrendered to me!


Sorry Roger.

I am done with this stupid argument with this stupid man.


They are actually DENYING that they are removing tweets, suspending accounts, or anything for political reasons. 

When this reaches the third branch and the Supreme Court will grant them the same rights as the free press as defined by the founding fathers

If they don't go that direction the government will gain to total control of the social media, and turn it into Pravda.

The paper pusher has lost his mind.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Private companies have the absolute right to censor!

The government has zero rights to censor.

Anonymous said...


It's not his lack of understanding of 230... it's quite literally that he believes that censorship IS freedom of speech and that censorship is what is protected by the First Amendment.

yep. and like most leftists, he sees Orwell as a guide.

“War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.”



C.H. Truth said...

Actually Rat...

While that is a dumb argument. His suggestion that Joe Biden could write an executive order that modifies the first amendment of the bill of rights might be just as stupid?

C.H. Truth said...

Wait...

Now Roger thinks that the USSC Justices are just as dumb as he is and do not understand the differences between a media publisher and a public forum?

Another doozy!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Private companies have the absolute right to choose what they want to broadcast or publish anything.

Or they should have those rights.

An executive order would end this ridiculous debate forum.

Anonymous said...


Private companies have the absolute right to censor!

and if those private companies were owned and operated by Republicans, and were censoring liberal/democrat/leftist speech, you'd be going ape shit right now, prattling on about tyranny and dictatorships, the First Amendment, and what ever the fuck else you could plagiarize from your predictable sources.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Original intent, may end up in your favor.

But Scott, seriously the first amendment was made the first amendment, because it has kept our country safe from dictators for 240 years.

Depending upon how the arguments are framed, it could get interesting.

But I always believe in the Constitution will prevail.

Anonymous said...

His suggestion that Joe Biden could write an executive order that modifies the first amendment of the bill of rights might be just as stupid?

yup. and note the irony. an attempt by Slow Joe to write an exec order that modifies the first amendment of the bill of rights would be galactically, blindingly unconstitutional.

yet again, because it would help his team, he would defend Biden's ability to do it.

the level of stupid required to hold these absurd positions of his burns hotter than the fucking sun.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Nope again I am not a hypocritical asshole like you

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

No, he would alter 320 giving Twitter etc. first amendment rights.

Not altering the first amendment, because he doesn't have the authority to do that. Your grasping for grapes!

Anonymous said...

Roger doomed this Player to the Injury Reserve list (out for the season).

See Roger made him his player "to watch".

Justin Herbert, done for at least this season.
Everything Roger predicts fails, mirroring his real life.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The executive order would end 320, and grant the social media companies the first amendment rights!

Anonymous said...

Roger is Constitutionally a retard.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump Loses Pennsylvania In Court Again
1:12 pm EST
BuzzFeed News:
“A federal appeals court on Friday handed another loss to the Trump campaign’s effort to undo President-elect Joe Biden’s win in Pennsylvania, with a judge — one of Trump’s nominees — writing that the campaign’s ‘claims have no merit.'

“In a 3-0 decision, the US Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit rejected the campaign’s effort to get a do-over of its lawsuit challenging the election results in Pennsylvania, which a lower court had already tossed out last week.”

Axios:
“It’s another devastating blow to President Trump’s sinking efforts to overturn the results of the election.”

Rick Hasen:
“This is an utter repudiation of the Trump campaign’s ridiculous lawsuit by three Republican-appointed judges.

“It shows the absurdity of the litigation: besides the fact that the case was poorly lawyered — Rudy Giuliani’s oral argument was the worst I have heard in 25 years of following election law cases.”
____________________

The Trump Clown and the Giuliani Clown Just Keep On Keepin' On Looking Stupider and Stupider.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

the differences between a media publisher and a public forum?

I am almost 100% confident that the Supreme Court will see them as the same things. The Free Press

Anonymous said...

"I'm an absolutist" Roger

Nope, you are a spineless Summer Soldier.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In the last month or so, I have become confident that our country will survive Donald Lame Duck The courts act independently as designed by the founding fathers!

Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here," Trump-appointed Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote in the Third Circuit Court of Appeal's ruling.

The social media companies will be granted first amendment rights!

Anonymous said...

James continues to violate his personal conduct standards.

He has no core, faithless and documented liar.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ignore kputz

C.H. Truth said...

Rat...

Apparently Roger doesn't understand that Twitter Facebook and every other social media site would fight tooth and nail against any argument that they be labeled as media publishers.

How many minutes after that USSC decision would Twitter, Facebook, and every other social media site go black?

Roger has no clue that they only "exist" because of their section 230 exception to being held responsible for the content of the individual users.

The more he writes, the more he proves how witless he really is.



Anonymous said...



Conventional wisdom is that COVID-19 has caused thousands of deaths in the United States and nearly 1.5 million worldwide. This perception has been directly challenged by a study published by Johns Hopkins University on Sunday, November 22.

Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at Johns Hopkins University, critically analyzed the impact that COVID-19 had on U.S. deaths. According to her, the impact of COVID-19 on deaths in the United States can be fully understood by comparing it to the number of total deaths in the country.

According to study, “in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.”

Wait, what? Really?

That’s what it says. And, it should come as no surprise that not long after the study was published it was deleted within days.

Luckily, a back-up copy remains on The Wayback Machine, and we can still read the study.

So, how exactly did the study conclude that COVID-19 has had “relatively no effect on deaths”? Here’s how the study made this determination:

After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.

Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.

According to Briand, “The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals.”

Briand’s analysis found that the range of deaths amongst the older population has remained within the range of past years.



https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/11/27/johns-hopkins-study-saying-covid-19-has-relatively-no-effect-on-deaths-in-u-s-deleted-after-publication-n1178930

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

In the future it is not going to be so easy to tell out and out lies -- anywhere.

The mainline press is increasingly waking up to the fact that regarding Trump they never did the investigative kind of journalism they should have.

Even Fox News is improving -- except for Hannity and Ingraham and Tucker Carlson. (Carlson is still carrying water for Trump, although even he balked at Sidney Powell's crassly unsubstantiated ravings.)

Apparently Murdoch wants Fox to become a more respected example of genuine journalism that does not mindlessly continue to parrot baseless lines of right wing propaganda.

Chris Wallace and others want and are demanding a more genuinely "fair and balanced" news coverage.

Anonymous said...

Apparently Murdoch wants Fox to become a more respected example of genuine journalism that does not mindlessly continue to parrot baseless lines of right wing propaganda.

Chris Wallace and others want and are demanding a more genuinely "fair and balanced" news coverage.



and after deciding to compete with XiNN and MSDNC to be the next XiNN and MSDNC they are losing viewers by the MILLIONS.

get woke, go broke.


LOL.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, I understand that 230 basically allowed them to exist.

They were not granted first amendment rights, but it is much more complicated, so they are immune from civil charges.

Because they are responsible for their content, they have been given absolute power to allow or not allow the users to publish on their privately owned businesses

Quit the ridiculous insults that go against your own words! I'm not mentally disabled

I survived a condition that kills 80% and my doctors said that I have completely recovered, because there was no permanent damage.

Trump is not a conservative. I hoped that you would join the Lincoln Project because you were a true conservative, and librarian person. I don't agree with those beliefs, but I respect their opinions, despite the fact that they are wrong!!! But that's how a democracy works!

Trump is a narcissistic liar who is unfit, not because of political differences.

Anonymous said...


Roger has no clue that they only "exist" because of their section 230 exception to being held responsible for the content of the individual users.

The more he writes, the more he proves how witless he really is.


and this is exactly why sec. 230 and the protections it provides must be eliminated.

twitter, et. al., are exploiting sec. 230 protections. there's nothing offensive or dangerous about content that shows democrats to be the soulless, crooked scumbags that they are.

and what about the recent revelations about Hunter Biden being a piece of shit was "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable" that justified the censoring and de-platforming of the NY Post?

alky's a fucking tool.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

http://drudgereport.com

Hilarious picture of the lame duck President

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Hunter Biden scandal was supposed to be the October surprise, Thecoldheartedtruth promoted it but it was bullshit

C.H. Truth said...

Because they are responsible for their content, they have been given absolute power to allow or not allow the users to publish on their privately owned businesse


Jesus fucking Christ...

The 230 exemption is what makes sure that they are NOT responsible.

The idiot feeble old nursing home resident's ENTIRE argument relies 100% on his complete misunderstanding of what 230 actually is. He actually believes it to be 180 degrees from what is actually is.


and he wonders why the only reasonable response is to question his intelligence. Nobody with an IQ over 80 could possibly act this stupid.

Anonymous said...

'Apparently Roger doesn't understand"

That is true on most every single topic.

Anonymous said...

I'm an absolutist" Roger

Nope, you are a spineless Summer Soldier.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Going viral

 #DiaperDon

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

The Hunter Biden scandal was supposed to be the October surprise,



idiot,

the point was that the info that came out on Hunter Biden was not "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable."

that language in quotation marks comes directly from the sec. 230 language in the fucking statute.

THAT'S the fucking point.

and THAT'S what twitter et. al. is held harmless from due to the protections provided by 230.

what they have actually chosen to do is to twist that sec. 230 language in a manner that serves their political interests and the interests of their political allies. they ABUSE 230, alky. willfully, knowingly abuse it. and that's why 230 should be eliminated.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If we were debating, the judges would have been saying that your reaction is evidence of complete loss of the debate.

Insults are admission of failure.

Indy is right about you.

The only reason I return here is to destroy Thecoldheartedtruth!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

#diaperjimmy
LMAO

Anonymous said...

IF, you watched The NFL Games, can you confirm for me that the US Real National Anthem is back and the NFL is attempting to reverse their anti-Military stance pre-election?

Ty.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

and after deciding to compete with XiNN and MSDNC to be the next XiNN and MSDNC they are losing viewers by the MILLIONS.
__________

Good. Some of those millions will look for more balanced reporting.

Anonymous said...

The Baltimore Mayor has been full on Maxist, yet, this guy gets the deadly China Flu.

🤡Lamar Jackson has tested positive for the coronavirus, according to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport.🤣

Caliphate4vr said...

Twitter Says Republican State Senator Doug Mastriano's Account Was Suspended In 'Error'


Alky doesn’t get it

Anonymous said...

What day of the 14 day lockdown are you in?
Kansas is day 165.

Anonymous said...

I noticed long ago that the "error" never happened to The Socialist Democrats.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Wall Street Journal has an interesting article.
Last month, when the Supreme Court declined to take up a Section 230 case, Justice Clarence Thomas invited further challenges.

“Many courts have construed the law broadly to confer sweeping immunity on some of the largest companies in the world,” the conservative justice wrote in a statement published by the court, pointing to companies granted immunity for allegedly altering content or selling faulty products. These decisions, he said, “eviscerated the narrower liability shield Congress included in the statute.”

In Force v. Facebook, one case Justice Thomas cited, the social network had been sued by victims of terrorist attacks in Israel. They alleged Facebook’s algorithms connected terrorists with one another and promoted content directing the attacks.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit dismissed the suit in 2019. Even if the victims’ claims were true, two judges ruled, Section 230 would immunize Facebook. Making connections “has been a fundamental result of publishing third-party content on the Internet since its beginning,” they wrote.

Judge Robert Katzmann dissented, arguing Facebook is “doing more than just publishing content: it is proactively creating networks of people.”

Courts could adopt Judge Katzmann’s view without action from Congress, suggested Rep. David Cicilline (D., R.I.), chair of the House Antitrust Subcommittee and proponent of Big Tech breakups.

“Facebook takes that posting, and they make a business decision. They use an algorithm, and they decide how to disseminate it, to monetize it,” Mr. Cicilline said in an interview. “One could argue they shouldn’t be protected from liability in making that business decision.”

At recent congressional hearings, Mr. Zuckerberg said he supported some regulation, suggesting companies be required to disclose their performance at catching harmful posts and to “maintain a certain level of effectiveness,” with possible waivers for smaller firms. Facebook already discloses some of that information.

Others don’t want to see Section 230 changes. “There’s something deeply cynical when Zuck goes out and says, ‘Please regulate us,’” said Benjamin Lee, general counsel of online discussion forum Reddit Inc. “Really what you are doing is benefiting the largest companies by effectively placing a significant burden and cost on smaller companies.”

When it gets to the Supreme Court hearings I still think that the conservative justices understand why they should have the first amendment protections


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/social-medias-liability-shield-is-under-assault-11606402800

Anonymous said...

Roger attempts to change subject because he again lost the topic debate.

Anonymous said...

Winning Socialist Democrat Style, this is Alky Stupid Level.

"A fight is breaking out among Democrats over who President-elect Joe Biden should choose for agriculture secretary, with one of his key allies advocating for an African American lawmaker to head the department and refocus it on hunger rather than rural America"

Idiots, where do you think your food comes from.

Caliphate4vr said...

My god Brennan is a POS


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anonymous said...

My God trump is a burning pile of shit!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

A federal appeals court has shot down the Trump campaign’s attempt to overturn the election result in Pennsylvania—with a judge appointed by the president writing the scathing decision.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Justice Stephanos Bibas wrote in a 21-page opinion issued Friday.

The three-judge panel noted that the campaign’s grievances amounted to “nothing more” than allegations that Pennsylvania restricted poll watchers and let voters fix technical defects in their mail-in ballots.

“The Campaign tries to repackage these state-law claims as unconstitutional discrimination. Yet its allegations are vague and conclusory,” the opinion says.


“It never alleges that anyone treated the Trump campaign or Trump votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or Biden votes.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

#DiaperDon has gone viral

Anonymous said...

"CDC predicts coronavirus deaths may reach up to 321,000 by mid-December"

ok, and?

anonymous said...

The Posti is spot on with their opinion of the POS in the WH.....the slurpers applaud him burning down the house to make any transition miserable be cause he is just a baby....kinda like all the slurpers here!!!!!! bwaaaaaapaaaaaa!!


Lee Moran·Reporter, HuffPost
Thu, November 26, 2020, 2:44 AM EST

The Washington Post editorial board slammed President Donald Trump for “leaving the White House just as he entered it: a total disgrace.”

In its opinion piece published Wednesday night, the newspaper tore into Trump for pardoning Michael Flynn, his former national security adviser who pleaded guilty to lying during the Russia investigation. The editorial said “we can only hope” the pardon “will be his last official degradation of his office.”

The board, a frequent critic of the outgoing president, said that “at least for a couple more months” in Trump’s America “guilty is innocent; lies are truth; traitors are patriots.”

But the question “is not whether Mr. Trump has degraded the presidency,” it continued. “The question is how much long-term damage he has done.”

“Will future presidents now feel free to use the pardon power — or the other vast powers of office — with such nakedly crooked motives?” the board asked. “How many will calculate that they can make corruption appear to be patriotism as long as enough of the country wants to believe the lies they tell?”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Donor in Trump's election 'fraud' fight sues to snatch back his $2.5 million contribution

A major contributor to a group backing President Donald Trump’s fight to overturn the presidential election sued to recover $2.5 million in donations after the campaign failed in several court cases and was unable to prove any fraud.

The lawsuit filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in the Southern District of Texas by North Carolina venture capitalist Fred Eshelman argued that the nonprofit group True the Vote promised to keep him informed of how his millions were being used in what was pitched as a strong case against alleged election fraud. Instead, the suit alleged, he was fed “vague responses, platitudes and empty promises of follow-up” that never occurred.

He was kept in the dark when weak cases filed in Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Pennsylvania were voluntarily withdrawn in a decision the investor claimed was made in “concert with counsel for the Trump campaign,” the suit said.

In the Wisconsin case, Republican powerhouse attorney James Bopp promised that “evidence will be shortly forthcoming.” But Bopp withdrew the case last week just hours before scheduled oral arguments without ever providing a shred of evidence. Bopp won the the infamous Citizens United case before the U.S. Supreme Court, which opened the floodgates of dark money into campaigns.

A fed-up Eshelman last week ordered True the Vote in an email to immediately wire back his contribution. When the organization failed to comply, he filed the lawsuit.

Eshelman is a major Trump backer who has twice donated the maximum allowable individual contribution of $2,700 to Trump’s campaign, as well as a $100,000 contribution to the Trump Victory PAC, according to records.

HuffPost could not immediately reach True the Vote, the only plaintiff named in the suit.

Trump has refused to concede the presidential election and continues to complain about massive voter fraud without any evidence to support his allegations. He again claimed in remarks at the White House Thursday, “There was massive fraud.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Quote of the Day
3:47 pm EST
“He’s the only person I’ve ever met who can gaslight himself.”
— Mary Trump, quoted by Vice News, on how President Trump has convinced himself he actually won the election

Bullshit Detective said...

As is always the case with Trump’s best trolling, the triggering effect on the libs is worth the price of admission. What they’re calling delusion, conservative Republicans are calling a spine. There is no quit in this president. We’re almost four years into this and that fact is still a new thing for Republicans. We’re just barely getting used to it after decades of weak GOP leaders rolling over and playing dead whenever the Democrats and their media mouthpieces told them to.

@realdonaldtrump said...

Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!

Anonymous said...

Wonder if Trump learned from Obama.

Have investigations into the Biden Transition teams and launch endless investigations.

Anonymous said...

Plant moles within the Biden camp and have them leak something every week.

Adolf Twither said...

Eleven members of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board have been abruptly booted by my Trump administration, according to a fake news release

Pentagon liaison Joshua Whitehouse sent the directive Wednesday afternoon, multiple sources told Foreign Policy.

Former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright; retired Adm. Gary Roughead; onetime ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee Jane Harman; and Rudy De Leon, a former chief operating officer at the Pentagon were all removed, effective immediately.

Also ousted were former House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and former Treasury Department undersecretary David McCormick, former deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick; chief US nuclear negotiator Robert Joseph; former Deputy National Security Advisor JD Crouch II; and former top defense official Franklin Miller.

Seig Heil Mr Johnson

anonymous said...

hen you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!


NO WONDER WHY THE COUNTRY IS BURNING DOWN WHEN IDIOCY NOT ONLY GETS PUBLISHED, BUT OTHER IDIOTS TAKE IT AS TRUTH AND POST IT EVERYWHERE!!!!!!! STUPID IS THE BEDROCK OF THE GOP AND FOLLOWING THE BULLSHIT IS THEIR GAME!!!!!!!!!

anonymous said...

The unsolvable problem in reality is how to educate and convince so many trump slurpers that orange man is a flaming asshole and deserves no respect!!!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

When it gets to the Supreme Court hearings I still think that the conservative justices understand why they should have the first amendment protections

The fact that you got "first amendment" protections out of this article doubles down on how fucking stupid you are.

Justice Thomas is clearly suggesting that the protections granted to Facebook and Twitter are "too" expansive and that they should be held liable for decisions that they make that influence (rather than just allow) for third party interactions.

In this case, algorithms that make it easier for terrorists to find each other would be something Facebook could be sued for. But any algorithm that is written by social media platforms would be subject to judicial review and those companies could be held liable. If, for instance, it was determined that algorithms were pushing a particular political opinion or shutting down other political opinions... they could be sued.


The entire concept of the 230 exemptions is that Social Media platforms stand back and stay out of the way. To get involved (Justice Thomas is arguing) should allow them to be sued.


So once again... you got this entirely backwards.

I have no clue how someone's brain can be soooo dysfunctional.

anonymous said...


I have no clue how someone's brain can be soooo dysfunctional.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1!!!!!!!!!!!!

You want dysfunction......look in the friggin mirror!!!!! You put the fun in dysfunction Lil schitty!!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, seriously when someone disagrees with you, is not dysfunctional.

He invited further challenges. That can be taken two different ways.

1; He's against protecting them from liability

2: Unless they provide further challenges he would protect Facebook etc.

You may be correct but you have trouble looking at things from another perspective.

Your insulting comments weakened your argument.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If your crazy argument is extended to the MSM, the first amendment would be discontinued.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

If your crazy argument is extended to the MSM, the first amendment would be discontinued.



you stupid fuck. sec. 230 was written specifically and ONLY to address the burgeoning internet.

only an imbecile would think that there was the tiniest snowball's chance in hell of it being extended to the media.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Donald Trump Hits Golf Ball in the Water And Screams, 'I Hate This F***ing Hole!!!' while 1,200 American people died alone