Forgiving Student Loan Debt? We are literally talking debt numbers in the trillions here and a majority of those are middle to upper middle class.
Obviously, we will see no legislation that will offer to provide rich kids going to school a student loan forgiveness program, which is why you are hearing Joe Biden and others talk about it as a possible executive action. Whether this is something that a President can actually do via executive decree will be up to the courts to decide. But one thing is for certain, when it's a Democrat in the White House, Democrats are all for executive power and making the Presidency into some sort of dictatorship.
But the point remains here... that a student debt forgiveness program that doesn't otherwise means test for income, will mainly benefit the wealthy or upper middle class. The ability for someone who comes from a low income family to pick up thousands in student loans with the idea that they could pay it back is not the same as it is for someone who has access to larger amounts of money (due to family income).
Sometimes you have real issues (like Covid, loss of jobs, increase in crime) and sometimes you have a situation where spoiled children want to borrow a whole bunch of money for their own gain, and then not want to actually have to be burdened with paying it off. Seems like not something that should be high on the priority list (even if you are naïve enough think it's a good idea).
As someone who worked two jobs and gigged as a musician so I could afford to pay for college and live in squalor, I do not feel sorry for the dorm dwellers who got all sorts of free time to study, could go to bed at reasonable hours, and other advantages... all because they decided to take out loans that they now do not want to pay. You reap what you sow. I made the decision to work my way through college (which was not easy) in order to avoid student loans. Those who made a different decision must live with that.
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student loan forgiveness. an idea so fucking stupid it could only come from a democrat.
the moral hazards surrounding this are legion.
Buying 100 million acres to give to 190,000 black wannabe farmers.
This is unworkable.
Ch's article does point to a problem Democrats have. The map of how Americans voted in this last election shows that it is the wealthy populous city areas and states that give Democrats their greatest vote advantages, while Trump has falsely managed to convince much of rural America that he loves THEM. (He almost messed up with the farmers, but they remain somewhat, if less, loyal).
It is a smokescreen. It is Trump's and the Republicans' way of pulling the wool over the eyes of the working and less privileged classes, convincing them that he and the Republicans are FOR the common people, when actually they are first and foremost ONLY FOR the wealthy.
The middle-middle class, and especially the lower middle class, have been hoodwinked and shafted now for years. Even during the economically prosperous Bill Clinton years, the middle class either flat lined or lost ground economically, while Wall Street and the Republican fat cats prospered.
This has got to change. Something resembling FDR's New Deal is needed, a Fair Deal that will more strongly tax the wealthy for the sake and for the good of all our citizens. (While originally campaigning,Trump lyingly promised he would tax the wealthy more because, he said, they "should" pay more in taxes, but he never did.)
There was a time when corporate greed was not so shamelessly great in our land, a time when wealthy corporations and even wealthy Republican individuals like Nelson Rockefeller gave patriotic assent to the fact that those who receive so much from our system should be willing to contribute generously to the greater economic good of all our people.
Wealthy people will never be happy as long as they know that in their greed they are getting away with selfish financial murder. They will only be happy when they patriotically take on a greater share of the burdens which we, the most privileged people on earth, should share more equitably.
The prophets of biblical Israel summoned the wealthy to have greater concern for the less privileged poor.
Jesus warned that, "A person's life does not consist in the abundance of his or her possessions."
A follower of Jesus said, "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil."
GOP National Security Experts Call on Trump to Concede
November 23, 2020 at 10:28 am EST By Taegan Goddard
“A group of leading GOP national security experts — including former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge — urged congressional Republicans on Monday to demand President Trump concede the election and immediately begin the transition to the incoming Biden administration,” the Washington Post reports.
The message also called on “Republican leaders — especially those in Congress — to publicly demand that President Trump cease his anti-democratic assault on the integrity of the presidential election.”
Trump Exits World Stage with a Whimper
10:14 am
Nic Robertson: “As stage exits go Donald Trump’s departure was something of a whimper, the US President leaving the top table of global G20 leaders to play golf. As his time in office draws to a close, despite his refusal to publicly accept the reality of the US election results, the combined unspoken message from the world’s leaders is: don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”
Officials Insist Trump Will Eventually Concede
10:11 am
Senior administration officials tell CBS News that President Trump will concede the election if he exhausts all legal options and the outcome remains the same.
GOP Candidate In Washington Refuses to Concede
9:51 am
Seattle Times: “Loren Culp lost Washington’s gubernatorial race by more than 545,000 votes, but he’s not conceding — and says he’s not going away.
“Culp, the Republican who took 43% of the statewide vote against Gov. Jay Inslee, has taken a page from President Trump’s playbook by attempting to sow doubts about the election results and lobbing unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud.”
Why are you worried about the national debt?
Trump has set a record high deficit!
He is the last President of the Confederate States of America!
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump is threatening to veto legislation to fund the military as one of his final acts in office unless a widely supported, bipartisan provision to rename military bases honoring Confederate military leaders is removed, according to White House, defense and congressional sources.
Since the Nov. 3 election, Trump has privately told Republican lawmakers that he won't back down from his position during the campaign that he would veto the annual National Defense Authorization Act if it includes an amendment to rename the bases.
A senior administration official confirmed Trump's conversations with Republicans and his veto threat. "He's said that," the official said.
Trump's stance has put in doubt legislation that had been agreed to by Republicans and Democrats in the House and the Senate. It has sent members of Trump's party scrambling to find a path for the defense bill, which outlines military policy and funding, and put them on a collision course with Democrats.
While some Republicans are now shifting their positions to align with Trump, Democrats are refusing to budge on the agreed-to amendment, threatening passage of the legislation.
The effort to change the names of military bases honoring Confederate military leaders has been a target for Trump for months. It was among the disagreements he had with his former defense secretary Mark Esper, who was quietly working with Congress to codify the renaming of bases in the bill before Trump fired him this month.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-set-veto-defense-bill-over-renaming-bases-honoring-confederates-n1248467
Ch has been wrong about almost everything:
Look at this, posted earlier by Roger:
STOCKHOLM, Sweden — Once Sweden found cheerleaders among conservative commentators [LIKE CH!] and activists in the United States for its light-touch approach to the coronavirus pandemic.
But as the numbers of deaths and infections surge, Sweden's government has been forced to introduce much tougher regulations to prevent the virus from spreading.
Beginning Tuesday, the number of people who can gather in public will be reduced from 50 to eight. Only eight diners per table will be allowed in restaurants.
Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven issued a stern warning on Sunday night as he explained the new rules.
"Tonight, in late November 2020, it is clear that it will be some time before we can return to normal," he told the nation in a televised address. "Many have neglected the advice during the autumn."
"All the things you would like to do, but that are not necessary: Cancel, postpone," he added.
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Ch ought to read the above with a guilty conscience. (Of course he won't!) If Ch had been in power, and people had listened to his advocacy for Sweden's way of dealing with the pandemic, then Ch, LIKE TRUMP, would bear responsibility for many, many deaths.
CH, I believe that we should expand public schools to the community college level.
And we should restore schooling for the highly complex in the construction skills,and manufacturing technology.
When I was in high school, they had something like that. I didn't attend them but the non college educated population should be able to make enough money to be in middle class.
Scott you worked very hard to pay for your tuition, but I think you lived with your parents during the transition to educated person. Far too many people don't have that advantage.
Plus, considering the costs are astronomicaly higher. They might have $100,000 debt
I paid for my son's BA.
I will pay for my Daughters BA as well.
They both will leave college debt free.
We saved , because we are smart parents.
"They might have $100,000 debt" Roger
Who signed for those loans?
No one was forced.
And one other point, is the highly educated people will make a higher income, so they will be paying higher taxes!
A real supply side result.
What tax rates will income and Capital gains be under Biden?
Scott you worked very hard to pay for your tuition, but I think you lived with your parents during the transition to educated person. Far too many people don't have that advantage.
Plus, considering the costs are astronomicaly higher. They might have $100,000 debt
Why are costs astronomically higher?
Here’s a hint start in 1978 MISSA and watch costs sky rocket
Ch has been wrong about almost everything:
Look at this, posted earlier by Roger:
Sorry Reverend...
Just going by the numbers, which I can look at myself (without having to cut and paste something). Oh, and what a mad man... making sure only 8 people sit at the same table in a restaurant? How can they survive?
Draconian, huh?
Btw.... Sweden has reported 12 deaths over the past two days.
How is YOUR state doing, Reverend? Wasn't it almost 250 deaths over the past two day? Perhaps you should worry about things a little closer to home!
Or do you own fucking research so you don't continue to look like such a moron every day.
To your point, I'm uncomfortable with the expansion of executive power.
But one thing is for certain, when it's a Democrat in the White House, Democrats are all for executive power and making the Presidency into some sort of dictatorship. The lame duck President has used executive orders at a historically high level.
The congress hasn't declared war since 1942.
If the Republicans maintain the majority in the Senate, Trump will have little choice to get anything through the Senate. So he will have few options.
McConnell is interested in maintaining power, than compromising with the Democratis .
The Georgia runoff is the most important thing this year.
"How is YOUR state doing, Reverend? Wasn't it almost 250 deaths over the past two day? Perhaps you should worry about things a little closer to home!
Or do you own fucking research so you don't continue to look like such a moron every day."
Spot on.
"2020 Student Loan Debt Statistics
Total U.S. student loan debt is $1.67 trillion, and 2018 college grads with loans owe $29,200 on average."
So what, make the loan signer pay it back.
The Degree Holder will earn far more then a High School only diploma.
OR gov Brown is now asking people to call and report any neighbor with more than six people at the dinner table on Thanksgiving.
Good grief.
Sorry, Ch, I don't know where you get your information, but if things are so rosy in Sweden as you say, why is the Swedish prime minister advocating what he advocates at 9:51 above?
Trump lost largely because of his mishandling of covid, and you have been wrong all along in obsequiously following his mistakes concerning covid.
Spot on.
The problem for someone like the Reverend or Roger the old geezer is that they don't "want" to do their own research, because when they do it turns out to be something other than they want to hear...
So they find opinion that they can agree with.
It should be a pretty big hint when article that suggests something (in this case that numbers are surging) but doesn't provide any actual data, specifics, or even context.
When an article states that "cases and deaths" are surging in Sweden, it's obviously a more effective line of rhetoric when "not" accompanied by any actual data or numbers.
Or as it pertains to Covid... some obscure percentage of increase or something of that sort... which could mean anything, but generally means that the starting point some some regions was much lower than others.
EG: Location one reporting 100 cases per 100,000 yesterday, but only 90 cases per 100,000 today can be said to show a 10% reduction in cases. Whereas location two was reporting 1 case per 100,000 yesterday, but reported 3 cases per 100,000 today... thus "tripling" their infection rate.
So you can argue that location one with 90 cases per 100,000 is doing better than location two with 3 cases per 100,000, just by citing the percentage of increase or decrease (rather than raw numbers).
Italy Again Sees One of the Highest Death Tolls
11:00 am
Washington Post: “At the outset of the pandemic, Italy’s immense daily death tolls — 919 at the peak — froze the country in fear and put much of the world on alert. But as the tolls again approach those heights, Italy is becoming emblematic of a far different point of the pandemic, when the dangers continue unabated even as so many are desensitized, fatigued and preoccupied with economic survival.
“In Italy, the scale of death no longer registers as a consuming national tragedy. But the tragedy is there nonetheless — playing out more quietly, in specific nursing homes, hospitals and living rooms. Some 10,000 people have died of the coronavirus in Italy this month — a per capita rate more than double that of the United States.”
MEANWHILE HERE AT HOME
Hospitalizations for Virus Hit Record High
10:33 am
“The U.S. recorded a drop* in newly reported Covid-19 infections following an all-time high, but it also reported record hospitalizations for the 12th straight day** as the coronavirus pandemic rages,” the Wall Street Journal reports.
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*because of increased mask wearing and social distancing?
**because of earlier failure to wear masks and distance?
Ch thinks he knows more about the situation in Sweden than the Swedish prime minister does.
Ch is never wrong. Never.
Sorry, Ch, I don't know where you get your information
From World-o-meter (the most frequented) among other places...
Did you know that two more countries (Armenia and Czechia) just passed them up in deaths per million (they are now at 23), and they have dropped all the way down to 45th in cases per million.
USA - cases 37,567/million
Sweden - cases 20,574/million
Reality Reverend:
Cases and deaths are rising "everywhere" as cold and flu season hits. it will hit places like Scandinavia earlier than it will hit warmer climates. It doesn't shock me that Sweden might start doing things like limiting indoor dining...
But they are limited the amount of people who can sit at one table to 8 people... which isn't exactly a "shut down". We limit how many people can be in a private residence.
The numbers don't lie Reverend...
But people do.
President Trump’s original entry ban on visitors from seven Muslim-majority nations, issued the week he took office in 2017, became a model for his use of executive power: aggressive, highly politicized and sometimes a bit sloppy.
Trump’s 193 orders to date exceed the numbers for other recent presidents: Barack Obama published 147 executive orders in his first term, George W. Bush 171 and Bill Clinton 128. But presidential scholars said the most notable difference is Trump’s eagerness to embrace a tool that most presidents have treated more as a last resort — stretching the boundaries of executive authority in ways likely to outlast him, whether through policies that endure or greater leeway for future presidents to deploy executive power.
Demonstrators march in opposition to the Trump administration’s entry ban on visitors from several Muslim-majority nations Oct. 18, 2017, in D.C. (Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post)
“I think he likes the phrase ‘executive order,’ ” said Bowdoin College political science professor Andrew Rudalevige, who along with three other academics has compared Trump’s use of the tool to other recent presidents’.
Dystopian Socialism
"MyballsNovember 23, 2020 at 10:49 AM
OR gov Brown is now asking people to call and report any neighbor with more than six people at the dinner table on Thanksgiving.
Good grief"
Can America Restore the Rule of Law Without Prosecuting Trump?
12:00 pm EST
New York Times: “The stakes of prosecuting Donald Trump may be high; but so are the costs of not prosecuting him, which would send a dangerous message, one that transcends even the presidency, about the country’s commitment to the rule of law. Trump has presented Biden — and America, really — with a very difficult dilemma.”
Said former New Jersey Attorney General Ann Milgram: “This whole presidency has been about someone who thought he was above the law. If he isn’t held accountable for possible crimes, then he literally was above the law.”
Portman Sees No Evidence of Widespread Fraud
11:48 am
Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH) writes in the Cincinnati Enquirer:
“This process has now been going on for about three weeks. The Trump campaign has taken steps to insist that only lawful votes were counted in key states, including filing numerous lawsuits. At this point, the vast majority of these lawsuits have been resolved and most of the remaining ones are expected to be resolved in the next couple of weeks. There were instances of fraud and irregularities in this election, as there have been in every election. It is good that those have been exposed and any fraud or other wrongdoing should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but there is no evidence as of now of any widespread fraud or irregularities that would change the result in any state…”
“Based on all the information currently available, neither the final lawful vote counts nor the recounts have led to a different outcome in any state. In other words, the initial determination showing Joe Biden with enough electoral votes to win has not changed.”
"...the highly educated people will make a higher income, so they will be paying higher taxes!" Roger
Every time Roger attempts to talk economic/taxes/finances he shows his ignorance..
Ch thinks he knows more about the situation in Sweden than the Swedish prime minister does.
The Prime Minister believes that their cases are spiking or surging... and that is fine. There is no "disagreement" between his political rhetoric as to whether or not numbers are going up. Covid is surging every where.
But the fact that 12 deaths is considered a "spike" or a "surge"...
tells us everything we need to know...
Ten times that many people are dying in "YOUR" state... and you are trying to act as if Sweden is the one with a problem? Why? Because you desperately want to prove that Sweden is wrong and Illinois is correct.
Me? I am just citing the numbers.
If the numbers someday show that Sweden is back to being a top ten country in deaths and cases, then that is what the numbers will show and I will not argue with them.
James, it's futile to talk about the covid-19 pandemic with CH because from day one he has been calling it the flu season and the shutdown and masking Is a Democratic hoax designed to destroy the Orange Monster.
He uses Excel spreadsheets to create false information about the Covid-19 pandemic.
Careful input from sources he believes, makes it look bad for Democrats and positive input from the President.
Ch does his usual dancing around, but the truth is, he earlier wildly applauded the Swedes for their lackadaisical, relaxed, "light-touch approach to the coronavirus pandemic." But now, "as the numbers of deaths and infections surge, Sweden's government has been forced to introduce much tougher regulations to prevent the virus from spreading."
As they now admit, if they had done that sooner, they would be in better shape today.
And if we had listened less to Trump and done it sooner, we would be in better shape today.
That's the reality of what the numbers are now telling us.
I have used Excel for many years and if you have an agenda, you can make it look like he wants.
John Kerry will be the climate change leader
I know "numbers" are hard for people like James and Roger to understand. You know... lack of education and such. But these are pretty straight forward.
Cases
Illinois - 51,792/million
Sweden - 20,574/million
Deaths:
Illinois - 951/million
Sweden - 633/million
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
The Guardian:
New infections and hospital admissions have surged in Sweden as the country battles a second wave of the coronavirus pandemic that officials had hoped its light-touch, anti-lockdown approach would mitigate.
“We consider the situation extremely serious,” the director of health and medical care services for Stockholm, Björn Eriksson, told the state broadcaster SVT this week. “We can expect noticeably more people needing hospital care over the coming weeks.”
Swedish hospitals were treating 1,004 patients for Covid-19, SVT said, an increase of 60% over the previous week’s 627. Data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control suggests the rise in recent weeks may be Europe’s fastest.
New infections are also surging, hitting a seven-day average of more than 4,000 this week against fewer than 500 at the beginning of October. The country recorded 4,635 new infections on Thursday.
Anders Tegnell, the country’s chief epidemiologist, told a press conference that case numbers had shown “a pretty big increase last week” and would “certainly increase” again this week, although perhaps not by quite as much.
The prime minister, Stefan Löfven, however, said on Wednesday that all indicators were “going in the wrong direction. The infection is spreading fast, and in the past week the number of people being treated in intensive care has more than doubled.”
WASHINGTON — President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. plans to name several top national security picks on Tuesday, his transition office said, including the first Latino to lead the Department of Homeland Security, the first woman to head the intelligence community and a former secretary of state, John Kerry, to be his climate czar.
rrb is going crazy because Biden is picking a beaner to run the intelligence agencies
Lena Einhorn, a former virologist who is one of the fiercest critics of the country’s strategy, said whatever people outside Sweden thought would make little difference. “At first they said: ‘Wow, perhaps they are right,’” Einhorn told Deutsche Welle.
“Then there were more and more deaths in Sweden, and we became a monster; everyone thought Sweden was mad. Then in the summer, when there were fewer deaths, Sweden became a heaven on earth again,” she said.
“And finally when infections increased again in many countries in the autumn and there was opposition to new lockdowns, Sweden became the idol of libertarians. That’s no longer the case, now that cases are going up again in Sweden.”
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Time to stop being so damn naive, Ch. Lives are at stake, here and everywhere.
Biden Picks His National Security Team
12:29 pm
President-elect Joe Biden on Monday unveiled his nominations for top national security positions in his administration:
*Secretary of State: Tony Blinken
*National Security Adviser: Jake Sullivan
*Director of National Intelligence: Avril Haines
*Department of Homeland Security: Alejandro Mayorkas
*U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations: Linda Thomas-Greenfield
*Special presidential envoy on climate: John Kerry
New York Times:
“The emerging team reunites a group of former senior officials from the Obama administration, most of whom worked closely together at the State Department and the White House and in several cases have close ties to Mr. Biden dating back years. They are well known to foreign diplomats around the world and share a belief in the core principles of the Democratic foreign policy establishment — international cooperation, strong U.S. alliances and leadership but a wariness of foreign interventions after the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
Axios:
“The list, set to be announced at an event in Delaware on Monday, is a deliberate effort to package nominees in a way that suggests diversity — a ‘first’ for women and Latinos, a Black woman, and a white man.”
California Gov. News on and hos family are in quarantine.
What, what?
6,000 deaths are irrelevant to ch.
Sweden's Prime Minister Stefan Lofven used a rare Sunday night address to warn of the growing threat the coronavirus poses, amid fears the strategy used so far may not be enough to fight an increasingly deadly pandemic.
Lofven, the third prime minister in Sweden's history to deliver such a national address, declared that "too many people have been careless about following the recommendations" that health authorities say are key if the virus is to be reined in.
Sweden famously avoided a lockdown, relying instead on voluntary measures. *But with a death rate considerably higher than elsewhere in the Nordic region, and intensive care beds rapidly filling up,:: authorities in the country are now recalibrating their approach.
Lofven said in his Sunday speech that it's clear "everyone must do more" to fight the virus. "The health and lives of people are still in danger, and the danger is increasing," he said.
COVID-19 has already killed more than 6,000 Swedes, with total cases well above 200,000. At the same time, intensive care beds are filling up quickly, with twice as many COVID patients as of Nov. 19 compared with the preceding fortnight.
I know "numbers" are hard for people like James and Roger to understand. You know... lack of education and such. But these are pretty straight forward.
Cases
Illinois - 51,792/million
Sweden - 20,574/million
Deaths:
Illinois - 951/million
Sweden - 633/million
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/89017
Although the population of Illinois is higher than Sweden, the percentage of minority population is much higher in Illinois than in Sweden.
The infection and death rates are much higher among African Americans is much higher than in the lily white Sweden.
Put your Excel to work on the racial disparities.
You've heard it countless times: Sweden kept its COVID-19 curve flat without lockdowns or other major restrictions, and without damaging its economy. The U.S. and other countries should follow its lead, we're told.
Baloney.
Let's take a look at those claims, along with how Sweden really did in comparison with the U.S. and other nations:
"It kept its death rate down." Not really, no matter how you look at it. Case fatality rate? 6.1%, versus 2.8% in the U.S. (the White House likes this statistic because it makes us look relatively good). But that's a poor metric for international comparisons, since it's driven not only by cause-of-death identification, but also by policies on testing that vary markedly by country. How about COVID-19 deaths per million population? It's 582 in Sweden, not much better than the 596 in Italy, despite that country's early horror, and only somewhat better than the U.S.'s 650. Sweden has the world's 14th worst rate of COVID deaths (out of 214) on the basis of population. Sweden's neighbors, meanwhile, imposed more restrictions on people and businesses and their death rates have been far lower.
"Sweden didn't shut schools and businesses." Yes and no. Restaurants and bars were allowed to remain open, but only for customers seated at tables or bar counters (i.e., no standing and drinking), and were required to take other steps to maintain distancing. Soccer matches continued but with no fans allowed, and a plan to reopen stadiums was pulled back this week. High schools were closed for in-person learning until August, as were colleges and universities, and the latter have mostly reopened with a mix of online and in-person classes.
"The country's economy didn't suffer like others' have." Sorry, Sweden took a big economic hit just like everyone else. Its gross domestic product declined 8.3% in Q2 versus Q1; in the U.S., our GDP fell 9.0% over the same period. (Numbers for Q3 aren't out yet.) Sweden's unemployment rate went up 2.2 percentage points from February to August, albeit less than the 4.9-point gain seen in the U.S. -- a difference that, in part, also reflects the two countries' dissimilar economic models.
"Nobody has to wear a mask in Sweden." True. So what? Since the country has performed worse than most in keeping its death toll down, one could argue that was a big mistake. (The Swedish health ministry still maintains that "the scientific evidence around the effectiveness of face masks in combatting the spread of infection is unclear," in a statement last updated in August.)
It's also worth noting that, while Sweden in general has issued fewer mandates than some other nations and U.S. states, the government has consistently and loudly pushed the need for voluntary social distancing, and its leaders have not ever made light of COVID-19's seriousness or suggested it would just go away on its own, unlike some we could name.
One point in Sweden's favor is that while new cases haven't gone away (about 500 per day recently, up noticeably from a nadir in early September, and more than twice per capita than in the U.S.), it has been reporting just one or two deaths most days since late July. That's a (very crude) case fatality rate of 0.4%, versus about 1.75% in the U.S. on the same basis.
Reasons for the difference aren't clear. Sweden's testing policy focuses on symptomatic cases and contact tracing. While the latter is considerably more robust than in the U.S., thus increasing the number of asymptomatic cases diagnosed, it wouldn't explain the fourfold discrepancy in case fatality. Perhaps Swedish healthcare is generally superior; or its COVID death toll is undercounted; or Americans are unhealthier overall; or the COVID deniers' favorite, the U.S. overcounts deaths. Data on excess deaths, however, indicate the lethality gap is real. Maybe someday we won't need to guess at why.
John Gever is managing editor of MedPage Today. The opinions expressed here are his alone and do not necessarily represent those of MedPage Today LLC or, indeed, any sane person or organization.
John Gever has been Managing Editor since 2014.
CH won't like this because he thinks climate change is a Democratic hoax to impose socialism.
President-elect Joe Biden will name former secretary of state John F. Kerry as a presidential envoy on climate, his transition team announced Monday, signaling his commitment to elevate the issue of climate change under his administration.
Kerry “will fight climate change full-time as Special Presidential Envoy for Climate,” according to a statement by Biden’s transition team, and will hold a seat on the White House National Security Council.
“This marks the first time that the NSC will include an official dedicated to climate change, reflecting the president-elect’s commitment to addressing climate change as an urgent national security issue,” the statement said.
Kerry, who made climate change a top priority while serving as secretary of state during Obama’s second term, tweeted that he would use his new post to tackle the world’s most pressing environmental problem.
I know "numbers" are hard for people like James and Roger to understand. You know... lack of education and such. But these are pretty straight forward.
Urban population
Sweden 87.9%
USA 82.5%
Population
Illinois 12 million
Sweden 10 million
Cases
Illinois - 51,792/million
Sweden - 20,574/million
Deaths:
Illinois - 951/million
Sweden - 633/million
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
There is no world-wide statistics on deaths by race, Roger... but if you got something that suggests Sweden's lower rate is caused by race, then by all means show us your statistics regarding Sweden.
But even Wikipedia suggests (There are no official statistics on ethnicity)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sweden
Masks, social distancing, and early effective treatments are the best tools we have to combat this illness. However, this is not the case in many first world nations, including the United States. Lockdowns are considered the most important way to slow the spread of the virus. This lockdown mindset is a totalitarian mindset. It is a mindset that rejects humanity. The more humane approach is that espoused in the Great Barrington Declaration. Protect the elderly and sick in their homes while the young and healthy return to society through measured social distancing. However, the elites in most governments hate this plan because they deny that early effective treatments and strengthening of the immune system can effectively combat the virus. Lockdowns show a disregard for humanity, and the unintended consequences will be felt for decades. There is a better approach than destroying our society and our humanity. It is the approach of the Great Barrington Declaration paired with the promoting of outpatient treatments for the virus. This is the only way for society to regain its humanity and stop the totalitarian mindset of our elites.
We are in a war with the virus. In war, urgency is a necessity. We cannot wait years for a double-blind randomized study of antivirals while thousands are being infected and being told to isolate at home until they can’t breathe and only go to the hospital when it is possibly too late. While businesses and jobs are being lost and lives are being destroyed, there is no excuse for government health organizations like the NIH to not recommend early treatment care. Dr. Peter McCullough said, “Medicine is both an art and a science. In this pandemic, we have focused on the science, in randomized trials, in a new drug development, and the body count has been through the roof. [What is needed is] clinical judgement, careful observation, being able to quickly adapt to new concepts.”
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I understand numbers asshole.
Ethnicity is a major factor.
Wikipedia's not a good tool for that kind of information.
So they find opinion that they can agree with.
Cold writes and an hour later the Alky is posting an op-Ed from medpagetoday
Sweden Demographics Profile 2019
Population10,040,995 (July 2018 est.)Ethnic groupsSwedish 80.9%, Syrian 1.8%, Finnish 1.4%, Iraqi 1.4%, other 14.5% (2018 est.) note: data represent the population by country of birth; the indigenous Sami people are estimated to number between 20,000 and 40,000
White House Still Planning Indoor Holiday Parties
12:48 pm
“Americans have been strongly urged to stay home for the holidays and cancel in-person gatherings amid a fresh surge in COVID-19 cases, but the White House said it’s still planning to host holiday parties despite dire warnings from health experts,” ABC News reports.
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That's nice. He can leave behind as another portion of his "legacy" a few more sicknesses and perhaps deaths resulting from his reckless cult of himself.
All Base All the Time Fails to Deliver For Trump
1:30 pm
Amy Walter:
“One of the theories given for why pre-election polling underestimated President Trump’s share of the vote was that pollsters failed to anticipate the huge surge in turnout among Trump’s base. One hypothesis is that these voters presented themselves as ambivalent voters — showing less interest in voting than others — and as such, didn’t make it through a likely voter screen.
“However, given the fact that the long-stated goal of the Trump campaign was to find, register and turn out every single person who fit into the Trump demographic —especially white voters living in small town and rural areas of the Midwest — the fact that these voters ultimately showed up Election Day shouldn’t necessarily come as such a surprise.
“Regardless, the battle over ‘what the pollsters got wrong’ is missing the bigger picture: Trump’s all-base-all-the-time strategy was a failure.”
Trump Nearing His Last Stand
1:00 pm EST
“President Trump’s push to subvert the 2020 election results may be hours away from collapse, as election officials push toward certifying President-elect Joe Biden’s wins in key states,” Politico reports.
The 5 largest ethnic groups in Illinois are White (Non-Hispanic) (60.9%), Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (13.8%), White (Hispanic) (10.8%), Asian (Non-Hispanic) (5.59%), and Other (Hispanic) (5.4%). 23.5% of the people in Illinois speak a non-English language, and 93.2% are U.S. citizens.
Apply your Excel expertise and break it down by the vulnerability of infections and deaths per race or ethnicity.
Trump Tries to Box Biden In Abroad
2:00 pm
“On its way out the door, the Trump administration is enacting new rules, regulations and orders that it hopes will box in President-elect Joe Biden’s administration on numerous foreign policy matters and cement President Trump’s ‘America First’ legacy in international affairs,” the AP reports.
“Yet, the push may not work, as many of these decisions can be withdrawn or significantly amended by the incoming president when he takes office on Jan. 20.”
__________
The legacy of America's most corrupt, despicable, deplorable, unlikable president will easily be overturned.
Wikipedia's not a good tool for that kind of information.
Well then use your "good tools" to find it. Show your work. Back your claim. Don't just throw out a random thought with no proof or evidence.
What I can tell you is that over 70% of the population in Illinois is white, and 15% are Hispanic and four percent is Asian. Neither Hispanics 0.1% or Asians (no increase) show a significantly higher death rate.
Only Blacks have a significantly higher death rate, and they only make up 14% of the population of Illinois. If you were to take that death rate out of the equation, then Illinois might drop from just over 950 deaths per million to just under 900.
Still much higher than Sweden's 633.
Sorry ace... but your logic fails again.
So why don't you just go back to ignoring facts and numbers and just listen to what politicians are telling you. You are not smart enough to think for yourself and certainly not smart enough to know when a politician is giving you a line of bull!
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I understand numbers asshole.
alky, you don't even understand the numbers you pull FROM your asshole.
tell us again about how you were using MS Excel in 1974.
The death rate among African Americans vs caucasian is almost double.
Deaths per 100,000 populationBlack114.3
Indigenous108.3
Latino78.5
Pacific Islanders75.5
White61.7
Asian47.6
Scott you know how the percentage difference, effects the overall death rate per population.
If I had my laptop I would use Excel to see the picture.
I don't know what it would show.
heh:
WASHINGTON (AP) — A firearms-toting congresswoman-elect who owns a gun-themed restaurant in Rifle, Colorado, has already asked Capitol Police about carrying her weapon on Capitol grounds, her office has acknowledged. If she does so, she apparently won't be alone.
The practice is allowed for lawmakers, with some limitations, under decades-old congressional regulations. The public is barred from carrying weapons in the Capitol, its grounds and office buildings.
Republican Lauren Boebert, 33, was elected this month from a conservative western Colorado district after gaining notice as a brash pro-gun activist who straps a Glock pistol to her hip. In an upset last June, she defeated five-term Rep. Scott Tipton for the GOP nomination, in part by claiming he wasn't an ardent enough backer of President Donald Trump.
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Gun-toting-congresswoman-elect-may-carry-Glock-at-15748300.php?IPID=Times-Union-HP-Editors-Picks
good for her. she'll need it to take out the next james hodgkinson who shows up to murder a bunch of republicans.
I was using a DOS spreadsheet before Windows 1 came out. In 1985
We used an app that would put a picture of the spreadsheet before you printed it.
Excel probably came out when Windows One.
I actually installed Windows on my work computer, before the IT department blocked users from installing software.
Troll
The death rate among African Americans vs caucasian is almost double.
And with 14% of Illinois being black, that accounts for about 7% of their total... which is why I stated that it might account for about 50-60 less deaths per million out of their 950 they have now.
So you are not telling me anything I didn't know. I already factored that in and Illinois still has a much, much higher death rate than Sweden (and that would be assuming that no black people live there - which isn't the case).
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1122431/coronavirus-covid19-death-rate-by-race-us/
Cali, Roger and Jane's have their opinion, just as soon as they read it.
The infection rate matters.
You are afraid to make a spreadsheet that might prove your assumptions.
If you had 100 people in 2 different rooms.
One 100% caucasian
One 100% African descent.
And you spread the same amount of covid virus in each room.
The percentage would be very different.
So the percentage per population would be vastly different.
That's why you won't make a spreadsheet based upon ethnicity.
Sorry Rog...
Race demographics already factored in.
I had previously calculated the 14% black population in Illinois with the the approximately 2 times higher death rate.
Doesn't come any where near accounting for the differences.
Perhaps you are either not paying attention, or not smart enough to see that I had already gone through that?
Which is is Roger? Not paying attention or too dumb?
Blogger Roger Amick said...
That's why you won't make a spreadsheet based upon ethnicity.
what do you expect it to 'prove' alky?
you need a pretty picture to help you understand a set of numbers that are largely self-explanatory?
this is why no one takes you seriously and no one believes the IQ numbers that you like to attribute to yourself.
your demands for a fucking spreadsheet are absurd.
But. I did some more research. My assumptions are complicated.
The Mayo Clinic
Why are people of color more at risk of coronavirus complications?Answer From William F. Marshall, III M.D.
Research increasingly shows that racial and ethnic minorities are disproportionately affected by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the United States.
According to recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native people had an age-adjusted COVID-19 hospitalization rate about 5.3 times that of non-Hispanic white people. COVID-19 hospitalization rates among non-Hispanic Black people and Hispanic or Latino people were both about 4.7 times the rate of non-Hispanic white people.
While there's no evidence that people of color have genetic or other biological factors that make them more likely to be affected by COVID-19, they are more likely to have underlying health conditions. Having certain conditions, such as type 2 diabetes, increases your risk of severe illness with COVID-19. But experts also know that where people live and work affects their health. Over time, these factors lead to different health risks among racial and ethnic minority groups.
Where you live and who you live with can make it challenging to avoid getting sick with COVID-19 and get treatment. For example, racial and ethnic minority members might be more likely to live in multi-generational homes, crowded conditions and densely populated areas, such as New York City. This can make social distancing difficult.
The type of work you do also may contribute to your risk of getting COVID-19. Many people of color have jobs that are considered essential or can't be done remotely and involve interaction with the public. In the U.S., according to the CDC nearly 25% of employed Hispanic and Black or African Americans work in the service industry, compared with 16% of non-Hispanic white workers. Black or African Americans also account for 30% of licensed practical and licensed vocational nurses. Many people of color also depend on public transportation to get to work. These factors can result in exposure to the virus.
Your access to health care also affects your health risks. Members of racial and ethnic minority groups are more likely to encounter barriers to getting care, such as a lack of health insurance or not being paid when missing work to get care. In 2017, according to the CDC only about 6% of non-Hispanic white people were uninsured, while the rate was nearly 18% for Hispanics and 10% for non-Hispanic Black people
Sweden has 100% health care.
So it is not simple
Low IQ troll squad asshole
Blogger Roger Amick said...
If you had 100 people in 2 different rooms.
One 100% caucasian
One 100% African descent.
And you spread the same amount of covid virus in each room.
The percentage would be very different.
So the percentage per population would be vastly different.
this is why i know you're full of shit. you only want to control for race and no other factors.
every single time you try and pass yourself off some sort of an intellectual you end making yourself look like an idiot.
While there's no evidence that people of color have genetic or other biological factors that make them more likely to be affected by COVID-19, they are more likely to have underlying health conditions. Having certain conditions, such as type 2 diabetes, increases your risk of severe illness with COVID-19.
read your own plagiarism, alky.
you're trying and failing to make this about discrimination. no one discriminated laquishaniqua into being a 450 pound diabetic with high blood pressure and the onset of heart disease.
playing the race card on THIS particular topic is a fool's errand, and you are a goddamned fool.
So if the assumption is that Swedes are simply healthier people than Americans, I doubt you will get much argument here.
But the fact that Swedes are healthier is also part of the reason why they do not need to be babysat by the Government like Americans do.
Either way... the reality (regardless of the reasons behind it) is that while Illinois is showing 100-200 deaths a day... Sweden is showing 10-20 percent of that.
Which is the argument being made by Roger the feeble and the Reverend... that things are out of control in Sweden, when in fact they are simply not seeing the issues that our great lake states are showing.
They believe this (in spite of the numbers) because a politician uses a bit of political rhetoric. Pretty much their Motus Operandi for most everything. Believe what they are told, without doing the slightest bit of follow up or research.
Then attack those who do research and prove them wrong.
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
So if the assumption is that Swedes are simply healthier people than Americans, I doubt you will get much argument here.
indeed. plus, they do an excellent job of controlling immigration. to become a citizen is onerous, as it should be. and as it should be here in the US as well.
The president is concerned his team is comprised of “fools that are making him look bad,”
Do you believe that we should open up the country and quit requiring masking in public?
Scott this thread is to make the lame duck President look like a successful president
History will not agree with you
Keep the beaners and moose limbs from becoming Democratic voters
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Scott this thread is to make the lame duck President look like a successful president
History will not agree with you
actually alky, this thread speaks to how fucking stupid student loan forgiveness is. and as usual, you hijacked the thread with a pile of off-topic plagiarism.
good job alky.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
6,000 deaths are irrelevant to ch.
257 k deaths are just a number also.......it's just the flu.....cannot admit Sweden's experiment a failure or that Biden won!!!!!! CH does not understand life, just what is good for him like trump!!!!!
"Do you believe that we should open up the country and quit requiring masking in public?"
Yes
No, let those that feel better by wearing one wear one.
I cant Wait until Joe's First Full day of his Presidency.
Ch can't get it through his thick skull that it's the Swedes themselves who are now wishing they had pursued a more careful course in dealing with the pandemic. But I guess Ch will dance around that too, as he does with everything else.
actually alky, this thread speaks to how fucking stupid student loan forgiveness is. and as usual, you hijacked the thread with a pile of off-topic plagiarism.
good job alky.
Yep, and 5 hours ago I asked Roger why higher Ed costs are astronomically higher today than when CH attended. No response even gave him a hint of when the cost began this trajectory
Biden has a plan for the American dream.
Like I said before skilled trade unions and assisted learning.
Make a $50 billion investment in workforce training, including community-college business partnerships and apprenticeships.
Supply Side Economics
In 2014, President Obama asked Vice President Biden to develop a national strategy for reforming our nation’s workforce training programs designed to prepare “ready-to-work Americans with ready-to-be-filled jobs.” Building on the successful models championed through that initiative, President Biden will make an investment of $50 billion in high-quality training programs. These funds will create and support partnerships between community colleges, businesses, unions, state, local, and tribal governments, universities, and high schools to identify in-demand knowledge and skills in a community and develop or modernize training programs – which could be as short as a few months or as long as two years – that lead to a relevant, high-demand industry-recognized credential. These funds will also exponentially increase the number of apprenticeships in this country through strengthening the Registered Apprenticeship Program and partnering with unions who oversee some of the best apprenticeship programs throughout our nation, not watering down the quality of the apprenticeship system like President Trump is proposing.Invest in community college facilities and technology. Biden will invest $8 billion to help community colleges improve the health and safety of their facilities, and equip their schools with new technology that will empower their students to succeed in the 21st century.
This will reconstruct the middle class that has been shrinking since the Reagan administration the aircraft control union was destroyed.
I would like to see them get rid of right to work for less laws.
https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/#
Trump Loses Yet Again In Pennsylvania Court
3:48 pm EST
“The Pennsylvania Supreme Court dealt the Trump campaign yet another legal loss, ruling that mail-in ballots cast in the state’s election can be counted even if a voter failed to completely fill out the envelope,” CNBC reports.
AND ANOTHER LOSS--
Key Michigan Republican Won’t Delay Certification
3:42 pm
“A Republican member of the board responsible for certifying Michigan’s election results signaled his intention to vote with Democrats on Monday, dealing a potential death blow to the Trump campaign’s attempt to delay official recognition of President-elect Joe Biden’s decisive victory in the state,” the New York Times reports.
Said board member Aaron Van Langevelde: “The law basically says we have a legal duty to canvass the returns. There is nothing in the law that gives me the authority to request an audit.”
Will Senate Republicans Block Biden’s Nominees?
3:18 pm
Asked if he expects Republican roadblocks to his nominees, Joe Biden told reporters, “Are you kidding me?”
He then laughed.
Biden Picks Yellen for Treasury Secretary
3:12 pm
“President-elect Joe Biden plans to nominate former Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen, an economist at the forefront of policy-making for three decades, to become the next Treasury secretary,” the Wall Street Journal reports.
“If confirmed by the Senate, Ms. Yellen would become the first woman to hold the job.”
CNBC:
“Yellen is widely seen as a politically “safe” pick for the role, likely to garner support from Senate Republicans as someone capable of pursing bipartisan compromise during an otherwise fragile time for the economy.”
Trump Left a Ticking Time Bomb
3:00 pm
Greg Sargent:
“With President Trump’s attempts to overturn the election continuing in Michigan and Wisconsin, more Republicans are distancing themselves. They are ‘subtly urging’ Trump to accept reality and are ‘losing patience’ with his antics, we are told...
“What happens if the last-ditch tactic Trump’s team has adopted — trying to get rogue GOP-controlled state legislatures to appoint pro-Trump electors to the electoral college in defiance of their state’s voters — becomes seen as a conventional tool of political warfare, akin to more typical voter suppression efforts?”
Trump Worries His Legal Team Are Making Him Look Bad
2:45 pm
President Trump is worried that his campaign’s legal team, which is being led by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is comprised of “fools that are making him look bad,” NBC News reports.
“That crew, which has unironically called itself an ‘elite strike force team,’ to date has failed to win any legal victories that would invalidate votes for Biden, the former Democratic vice president, even as the legal eagles tout wildly broad claims of fraud for which they have offered no convincing evidence.”
Some eagles!
Even Rush Limbaugh slammed Trump’s lawyers: ‘They promised blockbuster stuff and then nothing happened.”
GM Drops Support for Trump Climate Rollbacks
2:35 pm
“General Motors abandoned President Trump’s battle to nullify California’s fuel economy rules meant to curb global warming, the strongest sign yet that corporate America is moving on from Mr. Trump and adapting to an incoming Democratic administration,” the New York Times reports.
“The company also signaled that it was ready to work with President-elect Joe Biden, who has promised swift action to reduce climate-warming emissions in the auto sector.”
https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/
Troll squad asshole
You haven’t grasped why the trajectory of higher education became astronomical
He cant , he doesn't have the mental firepower.
Secret Service Planning for Trump to Depart
“Secret Service agents in the president’s detail are being asked whether they’re interested in transferring to Palm Beach, Florida,” ABC News reports.
“The Secret Service’s Miami field office also has begun looking at physical reinforcements to Mar-a-Largo, the president’s golf club to which he refers as ‘the winter White House.'”
Capito Calls for Transition to Begin
4:03 pm EST Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV) released a statement calling for the presidential transition tos calling for the presidential transition to begin.
Said Capito: “While some irregularities and fraud have been found and should be punished, there is no indication that these are widespread enough to call into question the outcome of the election.”
Make Schmoozing Great Again
November 23, 2020 at 4:00 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 17 Comments
Washington Post: “At the heart of this optimism is the belief that politicians on both sides of the aisle get more accomplished when they like each other. And the other business of Washington — the cultural institutions, the diplomatic corps, the gala fundraisers, the hundreds of historical traditions — need bipartisanship to really thrive. They struggled during the Trump administration, when everything became a test of loyalty and the notion that good people could disagree without being disagreeable was laughable. …
“Back to normal will mean more state dinners, a prestigious and glamorous way of reestablishing global ties. And it means that Washington events traditionally attended by the president and first lady for the better part of five decades — the Honors, the Alfalfa dinner, the Gridiron, Ford’s Theatre gala and the correspondents’ dinner — will likely return to their former glory.”
Let me help you, Roger
In 1970, financial-aid programs "were almost nonexistent," he said. "Generally, middle-income people didn't get money from the federal government; the large majority of students did not."
In 1978, Congress passed a bill known as the Middle Income Student Assistance Act. This made all undergraduates regardless of income class eligible for subsidized loans and middle-income students eligible for Pell Grants, according to NASPA, Student Affairs Administrators in Higher Education. More and more students started applying for financial aid, Vedder said.
"Knowing that students will get this financial-aid money, the university raises fees and takes advantage to capture that themselves," Vedder explained, referring to an idea known as the Bennett hypothesis.
Named for a former education secretary who believed that more government aid for students led directly to college cost increases, the hypothesis is an ongoing topic of political debate. But it has some vertical support in Vedder's eyes. Citing a statistic from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Vedder said that for every new dollar of federal student aid, tuition is raised by 65 cents.
Gubment intervention caused this, more gubment isn’t the answer
CH cannot admit trump is a dummy and his followers idiots.......Swedish experiment was a failure...The stat I posted earlier in absolute numbers is very telling.....Roughly 6K dead in sweden which is 10x higher than their 6 closest neighbor added total!!!!!! Unfortunately Lil Scitty has problems with facts and statistics!!!!!
4vr said...
Let me help you, Roger
BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!! You my friend are the one who needs help!!!!~!!!!
Funny there mouth of the south........you posted another opinion that suits your bias.....The following is the headline of mouths posted guano.... Yeah....just like GW.....an inevitable connection!!!!!!
Theories suggest financial aid causes tuition increases
Ch can't get it through his thick skull that it's the Swedes themselves who are now wishing they had pursued a more careful course in dealing with the pandemic. But I guess Ch will dance around that too, as he does with everything else.
Based on what? Polling in Sweden has suggested that they are overwhelmingly against lock downs and are happy with the manner in which they have handled things?
Are you referring to what one politician tells you?
Or perhaps the repeated attempts by a particular "top epidemiologist" who has been criticizing their response from day one?
Would you take the current President of the United States at his word on election fraud?
I think you either trust politicians at their word, or you don't.
You seem to trust them... I always fact check them (and by that I mean my own fact checking).
So far you have responded to fact...
With the words of a politician. No different than taking Trump at his word.
I really like the idea of Kerry as GW Czar!!!! He does have the demeanor to handle the attacks that will certainly come from rat, Lil Schitty and the other deniers while holding off the progressives that will want more.....The green new deal is certainly a manifesto that needs to be executed, however, this country is not ready for it....They can't handle wearing masks or admitting covid is a bad thing.......baby steps are needed to start the ball rolling in spite of trumps damage to america!!!
Theories suggest morbid obesity, leads to fat people become stark raving nonsensical loons
TRUE
Based on what? Polling in Sweden has suggested that they are overwhelmingly
BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Yeah, now LilSchitty pushing swedish polls....lOLOLOLOLOL
Michigan certifies election results.....trumps fat ass takes another un lubed 2x4
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan election officials on Monday certified Democrat Joe Biden’s 154,000-vote victory in the state amid President Donald Trump’s brazen attempts to subvert the results of the election.
The Board of State Canvassers, which has two Republicans and two Democrats, confirmed the results on a 3-0 vote with one abstention. Allies of Trump and losing GOP Senate candidate John James had urged the panel to delay voting for two weeks to audit votes in heavily Democratic Wayne County, home to Detroit.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.
Cali, your spoon feeding Roger was very kind of you.
Theories suggest drunk graduates of UGA never amount to a pile of shit!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!
Blogger anonymous said...
Based on what? Polling in Sweden has suggested that they are overwhelmingly
BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Yeah, now LilSchitty pushing swedish polls....lOLOLOLOLOL
No he isn’t you stupid fuck. God damn who dresses you. Cold is wondering how the pederast could make the outlandish claims, note the “?”
It’s amazing how dense you truly are
Michigan’s certification could be the fatal blow to Trump’s legally dubious efforts to block Biden from attaining the 270 electoral votes he needs to win. The president’s court cases and the political pressure he’s putting on fellow Republicans to fight the election results are falling flat.
Michigan's state canvassers GOP member signals he'll certify election results
In addition to the brushback in Michigan, Trump’s efforts to challenge the vote count or delay certification have so far fallen short in other states Biden carried, including Pennsylvania, Arizona and Georgia.
Trump’s bid to persuade a federal judge to toss millions of votes for Biden in Pennsylvania met with a sharply worded rejection on Saturday. And a small but growing number of House and Senate Republicans in Washington say it’s time for Trump to accept defeat and help smooth the transition to a Biden administration.
“A pressure campaign on state legislators to influence the electoral outcome is not only unprecedented but inconsistent with our democratic process,” said Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) in a Sunday statement. “It is time to begin the full and formal transition process.”
No he isn’t you stupid fuck
YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T READ WHEN YOU ARE BLASTED, MOUTH!!!!!! Cold is acting like a little kid stomping his feet and holding his breath.....he thinks the swedish model worked....it did not and now sweden is paying for it with shut downs and restrictions....and polls show the swedish people to have the same problem you have....they don't like it..... James claims are more logical than your hero Dr Malcolm Kendrick.......CH had his ass kicked and you are trying to protect him.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! He's a big boy and sure does not need help from a failed salesman......LOLOL>OLOOL Swedish policy failed, just like trump!!!!
God damn who dresses you. Cold is wondering how the pederast could make the outlandish claims, note the “?”
Your showing a .25% alcohol blood test
He's said before he likes beer and vodka.
God damn who dresses you. Cold is wondering how the pederast could make the outlandish claims, note the “?”
He's showing a .25% alcohol blood test
Sad that once again Lil Schitty thinks his opinion is more valid that the facts....His drunken cohort jumps in feet first in his own desperation to minimize the truth of what is going on....!!!!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/11/18/sweden-coronavirus-surge-policy/
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Has Sweden’s coronavirus strategy failed?
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Ishaan Tharoor
November 18, 2020 at 12:00 a.m. EST
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What you need to know about Sweden's coronavirus strategy
Sweden's strategy in fighting coronavirus remains comparatively relaxed, even as most European countries adopt strict restrictions of movement. (Alexa Juliana Ard/The Washington Post)
Even Sweden appears to be abandoning the Swedish model. On Monday, the country’s authorities banned gatherings of more than eight people as they grappled with the second coronavirus wave surging through much of Europe. The new restrictions followed other protocols coming into effect this week, including protective measures around nursing homes and bans on alcohol sales at restaurants and bars after 10 p.m.
The shift in tone is noteworthy given Sweden’s notorious light-touch approach to the pandemic. “It is a clear and sharp signal to every person in our country as to what applies in the future,” Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said during a news conference Monday. “Don’t go to the gym, don’t go the library, don’t have dinner out, don’t have parties — cancel
Sweden had set itself apart from its Nordic neighbors in its laissez-faire policies, joining only autocratic Belarus as the two European nations that eschewed major coronavirus lockdowns when the continent was hit by the first wave. The country’s nursing homes were ravaged by the virus, but life went on largely as usual in much of the rest of the country: Most schools and business remained open, while Swedish health authorities have even counseled against the widespread wearing of masks.
While right-wing politicians in the United States hailed the “Swedish model,” Swedish officials insisted their methods might not be replicable elsewhere. In an interview with Today’s WorldView earlier this year, Karin Ulrika Olofsdotter, the Swedish ambassador in Washington, stressed that widespread trust in the country’s public agencies meant that most Swedes
If the Reverend used his Swedish PM and Top Epidemiologist logic on the current situation with the President and the election.
The Reverend:"There was election fraud in the United States."
Other person: Why do you say that
The Reverend: "Because the President of the United States says there is election fraud".
Other person: There is no evidence of election fraud.
The Reverend: "Then why is it that the President is suggesting that there is election fraud?"
Other person: The President doesn't show evidence. He just claims it.
The Reverend: "Are you saying you know more than the President of the United States about election fraud in the United states?"
Other person: Where is the evidence of election fraud. There is no actual evidence.
The Reverend: "But the people of the United States believe there is election fraud."
Other person: Why do you say that?
The Reverend: "Because the President says so, and everyone in every country believes and follows their elected leaders".
Other person: Please show me evidence of election fraud.
The Reverend: "The President's top attorney says there is election fraud. He is top attorney, so he obviously cannot be wrong."
See how this plays out if you actually hold politicians accountable for their claims and how dumb you look if you just believe everything they say?
You have no ability to follow a thread nor comprehend what was posted
Fuck you’re dumb fatboi
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! The mouth of the south blowing it out his ass again!!!!!!! LOLOLOLO And Lil Schitty acknowledges his stupidity with another example of brain dead logic!!!!!!! He lost and like trump, will never admit he lost!!!!!!!!
Public outrage, alternatively, can sometimes force officials to back down, as when people crowded in to denounce the Michigan Republican election officials who were trying to deny certification of their votes.
The fundamental problem, however, is Republican insiders who have convinced themselves that to keep and hold power, they need to trash the shared beliefs that hold American democracy together. CH is an enabler.
They may have long-term worries about the consequences, but they’re unlikely to do anything about those worries in the near-term unless voters, wealthy donors or others whom they depend on make them pay short-term costs.
Henry Farrell (@henryfarrell) is a professor of international affairs at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies
And as always your fat ignorant ass, has been summarily dismissed
Idiot
.25% alcohol blood test
The mouth of the south once again prematurely ejaculates in his hand!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Your ass is grass, loser!!!!!!
"25% alcohol blood test" Roger
That is stated incorrectly.
Here fatty try to keep up. I’ll type slowly
Pederast
Ch can't get it through his thick skull that it's the Swedes themselves who are now wishing they had pursued a more careful course in dealing with the pandemic. But I guess Ch will dance around that too, as he does with everything else.
Cold
Based on what? Polling in Sweden has suggested that they are overwhelmingly against lock downs and are happy with the manner in which they have handled things?
Are you referring to what one politician tells you?
Or perhaps the repeated attempts by a particular "top epidemiologist" who has been criticizing their response from day one?
Would you take the current President of the United States at his word on election fraud?
Cold is inquiring where the pedo came up with his statement. I know you Alky and pedo are completely dishonest. But as always you’ve spit the bit, shit the bed, opened your fat gaping maw without understanding.
SSDD
Let me guess Roger the feeble...
NYT or WaPo?
Republican insiders who have convinced themselves that to keep and hold power, they need to trash the shared beliefs that hold American democracy together.
As if spending three years accusing the sitting President of being a Russian agent is completely acceptable, or recounting multiple states in 2016 was not an issue (because a Republican won).
But asking for recounts or litigating possible fraud is paramount to trashing the shared beliefs that hold American democracy together.
"shared by whom"?
Even 30% of Democrats believe their own Democrats cheated and tampered with the counting to help Biden win?
These people live in a fucking bubble... and Roger the feeble is surrounded and engulfed sooo deep into it, that he has no clue what reality even is anymore.
As if spending three years accusing the sitting President of being a Russian agent
Another Lil Schitty posting opinion rather than fact...That is your problem Lil Schitty is that you don't know what a fact is other than what comes out of trumps fat old white ass!!!!!! Pathetic is all you can offer....!!!!o
Even 30% of Democrats believe their own Democrats cheated and tampered
MORE LIL SCHITTY BULLSHIT THAT HE HEARD FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE..... My guess his brain is sooooo wasted even he can't think that !!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Keep digging, you and the mouth are losing!!!!
Breaking news
WASHINGTON (AP) — The General Services Administration has ascertained that President-elect Joe Biden is the “apparent winner” of the Nov. 3 election, clearing the way for the start of the transition from President Donald Trump's administration.
An official said Administrator Emily Murphy made the determination after Trump efforts to subvert the vote failed across battleground states, most recently in Michigan, which certified Biden's victory Monday.
The move clears the way for Biden aides to begin coordinating with federal agencies on plans for takeover on Jan. 20.
The feeble minded Roger has great news !
WASHINGTON (AP) — The General Services Administration has ascertained that President-elect Joe Biden is the “apparent winner” of the Nov. 3 election, clearing the way for the start of the transition from President Donald Trump's administration.
An official said Administrator Emily Murphy made the determination after Trump efforts to subvert the vote failed across battleground states, most recently in Michigan, which certified Biden's victory Monday.
The move clears the way for Biden aides to begin coordinating with federal agencies on plans for takeover on Jan. 20.
Michigan Board Certifies Biden as Winner
4:42 pm EST
“A Republican member of Michigan’s state canvassing board broke with his GOP colleague Monday, joining two Democrats in voting to certify the state’s election results,” the Detroit Free Press reports.
Washington Post:
“The decision dealt another blow to Trump’s unprecedented effort to undo Biden’s win by attempting to delay the certification of the election results in key states.”
Quote of the Day
5:26 pm
“Since it seems apparent that Joe Biden will be the president-elect, my hope is that President Trump will take pride in his considerable accomplishments, put the country first and have a prompt and orderly transition to help the new administration succeed. When you are in public life, people remember the last thing you do.”
— Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN), in a statement calling on President Trump to begin the transition.
GSA Tells Biden Transition Can Begin
6:27 pm
The General Services Administration has informed President-elect Joe Biden that the Trump administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, CNN reports.
Michigan certifies Biden win despite Trump's GOP overtures
The Associated Press
Michigan election officials on Monday certified Democrat Joe Biden’s 154,000-vote victory in the state amid President Donald Trump’s brazen attempts to subvert the results of the election.
The Board of State Canvassers, which has two Republicans and two Democrats, confirmed the results on a 3-0 vote with one abstention. Allies of Trump and losing GOP Senate candidate John James had urged the panel to delay voting for two weeks to audit votes in heavily Democratic Wayne County, home to Detroit.
The move is another setback in Trump’s efforts to use unconventional means to undermine the results of the Nov. 3 election and comes even after he made direct overtures to Republican officials in the state by inviting them to the White House last week.
Under Michigan law, Biden claims all 16 electoral votes. Biden won by 2.8 percentage points — a larger margin than in other states where Trump is contesting the results like Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
Some Trump allies had expressed hope that state lawmakers could intervene in selecting Republican electors in states that do not certify. That longshot bid is no longer possible in Michigan.
Trump’s efforts to stave off the inevitable — formal recognition of his defeat — faced increasingly stiff resistance from the courts and fellow Republicans with just three weeks to go until the Electoral College meets to certify Biden’s victory. Time and again, Trump’s challenges and baseless allegations of widespread conspiracy and fraud have been met with rejection as states move forward with confirming their results.
Michigan's Board of State Canvassers, which has two Republicans and two Democrats, certified the results despite calls by Trump and allies to the GOP members to block the vote to allow for an audit of ballots in heavily Democratic Wayne County, home to Detroit, where Trump has claimed without evidence that he was the victim of fraud.
“The board’s duty today is very clear," said Aaron Van Langevelde, the Republican vice chair. "We have a duty to certify this election based on these returns. That is very clear. We are limited to these returns. I’m not going to argue that we’re not.”
Mary Ellen Gurewitz, an attorney for the state Democratic Party, told the canvassers that attacks on the election results “are part of a racist campaign, directed by soon-to-be former President Trump, to disparage the cities in this country with large Black populations, including Detroit, Philadelphia and Milwaukee.”
“It sometimes feels like officials are attempting to tear up my ballot right in front of me by stalling and recounting until they find a way to change the results,” said Wendy Gronbeck, a resident of Douglas. “I’ve been a voter for over 50 years, and I’ve never had to think about whether canvassers will certify an election.”
Biden crushed the president by more than 330,000 votes in Wayne County, where two local GOP canvassers who certified the results unsuccessfully tried to reverse course last week after being called by Trump. Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat, has said an audit must wait until after statewide certification because only then would officials have legal access to documentation needed to conduct such a review.
Michigan’s elections bureau has recommended that the Nov. 3 results be certified.
Norm Eisen, a constitutional law expert and former counsel to the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, said there was no legal basis to do anything other than certify the election.
“That is the clear mandate of state law,” he said. Eisen dismissed various claims for why a delay might be necessary, including the need for an audit or time to investigate so-called “out of balance” precincts.
“The reasons that they have advanced for doing anything other than (certify) is totally spurious. They carry no legal or factual weight whatsoever under the law,” Eisen added.
Trump has tried to defy the results of the election through the courts, but having found no luck there, moved on to personally trying to influence local lawmakers to convince them to ignore the popular vote and appoint Republican electors, a strategy that would send Americans into the streets in protest, election law experts have said.
Some Trump allies have expressed hope that state lawmakers could intervene in selecting Republican electors in states that do not certify, as the president and his attorneys have pushed baseless allegations of fraud that have been repeatedly rejected in courtrooms across the country. Trump met with top Michigan GOP legislators at the White House on Friday and tweeted over the weekend: “We will show massive and unprecedented fraud!”
Had the board delayed a vote or opposed certification, a lawsuit was expected. Legal experts have said the canvassers’ role is limited and courts would order them to confirm the results. Under state law, it has the narrow responsibilities of reviewing vote numbers from Michigan’s 83 counties and certifying them. It does not have the power to audit returns or investigate complaints of irregularities.
In Pennsylvania, a conservative Republican judge shot down the Trump campaign’s biggest legal effort in Pennsylvania with a scathing ruling that questioned why he was supposed to disenfranchise 7 million voters with no evidence to back their claims and an inept legal argument at best.
But the lawyers still hope to block the state’s certification, quickly appealing to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia, which ordered lawyers to file a brief Monday but did not agree to hear oral arguments.
The campaign, in its filings, asked for urgent consideration so they could challenge the state election results before they are certified next month. If not, they will seek to decertify them, the filings said.
And they insisted that they did not want to invalidate all of the 6.8 million ballots cast in the state — as Brann concluded based on their arguments in court last week. Instead, they said, they are taking aim only at seven Democratic-leaning counties where they take issue with how mail-in ballots were handled.
“Appellants seek to exclude the defective mail ballots which overwhelming favored Biden, which may turn the result of the election,” they said in a filing Monday said.
Biden won Pennsylvania by more than 80,000 votes. The other litigation has failed to change a single vote.
Pennsylvania county election boards were voting on Monday, the state deadline, about whether to certify election results to the Department of State. The boards in two populous counties split along party lines, with majority Democrats in both places voting to certify. After all counties have sent certified results to Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar, she must then tabulate, compute and canvass votes for all races. The law requires her to perform that task quickly but does not set a specific deadline.
In Wisconsin, a recount in the state’s two largest liberal counties moved into its fourth day at a slow pace, with election officials in Milwaukee County complaining that Trump observers were hanging up the process with frequent challenges. Trump’s hope of reversing Biden’s victory there depends on disqualifying thousands of absentee ballots -- including the in-person absentee ballot cast by one of Trump’s own campaign attorneys in Dane County.
Feinstein Won’t Seek Top Judiciary Spot
7:00 pm
“Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) will not pursue leadership of the high-profile Senate Judiciary Committee or any other committee next year, taking a dramatic step back following pressure from progressives who questioned her willingness to use tough, partisan politics to confirm Biden administration Supreme Court picks and other judicial nominations,” the Los Angeles Times reports.
Said Feinstein: “California is a huge state confronting two existential threats — wildfire and drought — that are only getting worse with climate change. In the next Congress, I plan to increase my attention on those two crucial issues.”
Alejandro Mayorkas, the first Latino chosen for President-elect Joe Biden's Cabinet, will head a Department of Homeland Security that is expected to drastically overhaul President Donald Trump’s hard-line immigration policies, as well as put Mayorkas at the forefront of the new administration’s anti-terrorism strategy.
Mayorkas will be the first Latino and first immigrant to head the Department of Homeland Security, if confirmed by the Senate., The highest-ranking Cuban American in the Obama administration will help him in Florida in 2024, Mayorkas was deputy secretary of DHS under then-Secretary Jeh Johnson, and before that was the director of Citizenship and Immigration Services, a part of DHS that oversees granting citizenship and other immigration benefits.
rrb will call him a beaner
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/first-latino-tapped-head-dhs-signals-shift-trump-s-hard-n1248716
Give us a break Alky, Biden nor you will be alive in 2024
The Media did not ask Joe any real question, now when they do he doesn't answer he says.
"Come on Man"
"Are you kidding me"
He is/was and will continue to be given a pass.
" pressure from progressives "
When Difi is not progressive enough for the Radicalized Socialist.
Cali is a ghoul like Trump.
Beneath contempt.
Cassidy Says Biden Won the Election
8:56 pm
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA) on Twitter:
“With Michigan’s certifying it’s results, Joe Biden has over 270 electoral college votes. President Trump’s legal team has not presented evidence of the massive fraud which would have had to be present to overturn the election. I voted for President Trump but Joe Biden won. The transition should begin for the sake of the country.”
Trump Was Pushed to Let Transition Begin
10:32 pm
Washington Post:
“Mr. Trump had been resisting any move toward a transition. But in conversations in recent days that intensified Monday morning, top aides — including
Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff;
Pat Cipollone, the White House counsel; and
Jay Sekulow, the president’s personal lawyer —
all told the president the transition needed to begin. He did not need to say the word ‘concede,’ they told him.
“Some of the advisers drafted a statement for the president to issue. In the end, Mr. Trump did not put one out, but aides said the tone was similar to his tweets in the evening, in which he appeared to take credit for Ms. Murphy’s decision to allow the transition to begin.”
[Liar to the end.]
John Bennett:
Trump goes out with a whimper and a tweet. It was always going to be that way.
This was the really deciding event:
GSA tells Biden team they can begin formal transition process
updated Nov. 23, 2020 10:26 pm CBS news
The General Services Administration has told President-elect Joe Biden they're ready to start the formal transition process, allowing Mr. Biden access to key funding, office space, classified intelligence briefings and agency access, according to a letter GSA sent to reporters. Moments after the letter was released, President Trump tweeted that he has recommended the GSA administrator "do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and I have told my team to do the same" but he said they will still fight.
GSA administrator Emily Murphy, who has been criticized for slowing down the process, informed the Biden team in a "letter of ascertainment" on Monday that it may begin the formal transition process and access the resources that come along with that. The news came on the same day Michigan certified its results, and Pennsylvania is expected to do the same on Monday night.
The Pentagon said Monday night that it is ready to conduct the transition.
Statement by 100 Former National Security Officials
We are former senior national security officials who served in Republican administrations under Presidents Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and/or Donald Trumpor as Republican Members of Congress. We believe that President Trump’s refusal to concede the election and allow for an orderly transition constitutes a serious threat to America’s democratic process and to our national security. We therefore call on Republican leaders –especially those in Congress –to publicly demand that President Trump cease his anti-democratic assault on the integrity of the presidential election.It has been clear for over two weeks that Joe Biden won the 2020 Presidential election, garnering 306 electoral votes, far more than the 270 electoral votes required to be elected.Despite this clear outcome, President Trump has refused to accept the results and begin the transition process. While the President is legally entitled to request recounts and file good-faith legal challenges, he has presented no evidence of widespread fraud or any other significant irregularities. Nearly every case filed by the President’s team across multiple states has been summarily dismissed.President Trump’s continued efforts to cast doubt on the validity of the election andto interfere in state electoral processes undermine our democracy and risk long-term damage to our institutions. Although some Republican leaders have supported President Trump’s right to challenge aspects of the voting in various states, for the good of the country, they should now strongly oppose his dangerous and extra-legal efforts to intimidate state election officials and distort the Electoral College process. President Trump’s refusal to permit the presidential transition also poses significant risks to our national security, at a time when the U.S. confronts a global pandemic and faces serious threats from global adversaries, terrorist groups, and other forces. The delay in allowing transition teams to meet and confer with officials on the Coronavirus Task Force and at the National Security Council, the Departments of State, Defense, and Homeland Security, and the other departments and agencies critical to U.S. national security means that the incoming Biden Administration will be less prepared todefend America’s security when it assumes power in 59 days. T
These concerns are not just hypothetical: the 9/11 Commission concluded that the shortened transition to the George W. Bush Administration during the election dispute in 2000-2001 “hampered the new administration in identifying, recruiting, clearing, and obtaining Senate confirmation of key appointees” who were responsible for addressing the gathering threat of al Qaida terrorists in the months leading up to the 9/11 attacks. To ensure nationalsecurity readiness, the Commission recommended that a high priority be placed on “minimizing as much as possible the disruption to national security policymaking during the change of administrations.” The election is over, the outcome certain. Over the past days, a number of Republican leaders have called on President Trump to respect the will of the American people. It is now time for the rest of the Republican leadership to put politics aside and insist that President Trump cease his dilatory and anti-democratic efforts to undermine the result of the election and begin a smooth and orderly transition of power to President-elect Biden. By encouraging President Trump’s delaying tactics or remaining silent, Republican leaders put American democracy and national security at risk.
Already making excuses for the Biden Dystopian Socialist dumpster fire.
Anonymous Caliphate4vr said...
Give us a break Alky, Biden nor you will be alive in 2024
And with the amount you drink and lack of control, the odds are certainly against you also!!!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
The Wall Street is happy with the President elect Secretary of Treasury.
. Yellen has said recently the recovery will be uneven and lackluster if Congress doesn’t spend more to fight unemployment and keep small businesses afloat. “There is a huge amount of suffering out there. The economy needs the spending,” Ms. Yellen said in a Sept. 28 interview.
She is viewed by Biden transition officials as a credible authority on the dangers of prematurely withdrawing government stimulus and as someone who could collaborate closely with the Fed and executive-branch agencies to engineer more support if Congress is reluctant to take additional action.
Ms. Yellen is an “excellent choice for Treasury secretary,” said Gary Cohn, President Trump’s former top economic adviser, in a statement. “Having had the opportunity to work with then-Chair Yellen, I have no doubt she will be the steady hand we need to promote an economy that works for everyone, especially during these difficult times.”
Ms. Yellen at her Senate confirmation hearing in November 2013. She was the first woman to lead the Fed.
PHOTO: ALEX WONG/GETTY IMAGES
A formal announcement of Ms. Yellen’s selection isn’t expected to occur before Nov. 30. On Monday, a Biden transition official said his office would announce the first few members of his economic team early next week.
Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, said Monday night he looked forward to considering her nomination. “While Dr. Yellen and I had our fair share of disagreements during her tenure as chair of the Federal Reserve, I have no doubts about her integrity or technical expertise,” he said.
Mr. Toomey thought the Fed under Ms. Yellen kept policy too accommodative for too long.
Ms. Yellen was confirmed with bipartisan support as a Fed chairwoman in 2014 and as vice chairwoman in 2010. She received 11 Republican votes in her 2014 confirmation, including the backing of three sitting Republican senators: Richard Burr of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.
Many economists today fault a bipartisan impulse to curb spending over debt concerns in the years following the 2008 financial crisis for hampering that recovery.
“This is not a good time to have fiscal policy switch from being accommodative to creating a drag,” Ms. Yellen said. “That’s what happened [last decade], and it retarded the recovery.” She said low inflation has increased the need for and lowered the risks of aggressive monetary and fiscal policy.
Ms. Yellen has extensive relationships with and is highly regarded by foreign finance ministers and central bankers, an important asset as the Biden administration seeks to strengthen ties with allies.
Mr. Biden, a Democrat, said last week that his pick would be broadly accepted by both the liberal and moderate wings of the Democratic Party, which many observers immediately saw as a sign that he had selected Ms. Yellen.
At the Fed, she pushed colleagues to focus more on the central bank’s mandate to promote a strong labor market; the congressional mandate also calls for maintaining stable inflation. In speeches, she drew attention to the costs of unevenly distributed growth and government policies that would boost the participation of women in the workforce.
U.S. stock futures climbed Tuesday after President Trump said his aides would cooperate with President-elect Joe Biden’s transition to the White House, easing investors’ concerns about a drawn-out period of uncertainty.
Futures tied to the S&P 500 rose 0.8%, pointing to a second day of gains in U.S. stocks after the opening bell. Contracts linked to the tech-heavy Nasdaq-100 index edged up 0.3%.
Investors are cheering signs that a protracted fight over control of the White House is potentially drawing to a close, reducing political risks over the winter months. The General Services Administration chief said Monday that her agency would provide Mr. Biden federal resources meant to assist in a smooth transfer of power. Mr. Trump also said he has instructed aides to help with the transition.
“This is very positive: it means that we finally might get an orderly transition process,” said Luc Filip, head of private banking investments at SYZ Private Banking. “That would relieve some of the uncertainties that have been weighing on the market over the past two to three weeks.”
His cabinet choices are outstanding
https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-stock-markets-dow-update-11-24-2020-11606213552?st=03wb3jne31gzt01&reflink=share_mobilewebshare
What a fucking bitch she is........good fucking riddance to the trash in the WH BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!
Melania welcomes White House tree after being caught on tape saying ‘who gives a f***’ about Christmas
Gary Cohn, President Trump’s former top economic adviser, in a statement. “Having had the opportunity to work with then-Chair Yellen, I have no doubt she will be the steady hand we need to promote an economy that works for everyone, especially during these difficult times.”
Shut up kputz
Yeah that donnie sure surrounds himself with the best losers he can find!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!! Wonder if rat hole needs a job in the DC area.....I am sure donnie can find a place for an ignorant slurper like him!!!!
Oma Seddiq
Mon, November 23, 2020, 5:50 PM EST
AP Rudy Giuliani
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a lawyer for President Donald Trump, speaks during a news conference at the Republican National Committee headquarters, Thursday Nov. 19, 2020, in Washington. Jacquelyn Martin/AP Photo
President Donald Trump is upset with how his legal team has handled his challenges to the election, according to NBC News.
Trump is worried that they are "fools that are making him look bad," one official told NBC.
He also reportedly complained about Rudy Giuliani's appearance at a news conference last week.
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President Donald Trump is frustrated with how his legal team has been handling the election fight, according to an NBC News report on Monday.
Trump has become worried that his team is made up of "fools that are making him look bad," one official told NBC.
The team, which includes his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, is in charge of overseeing Trump's ongoing lawsuits over the election results.
Several officials familiar with the president's reactions told NBC that Trump was upset with Guiliani's appearance at chaotic news conference held last week at the Republican National Committee headquarters.
The president took umbrage with Giuliani's hair dye dripping down the sides of his face while he was speaking at the nearly 2-hour-long event, one source told NBC.
Trump and his legacy.......birtherism and voting fraud.....neither which have a single shred of evidence!!!!
President Trump’s efforts to undermine the results of the November election in Georgia will “absolutely” hurt Republicans in two U.S. Senate runoff races there, an election official in the state said Monday. “We’ve crossed a tipping point where ... there may be some Republicans who don’t trust the outcomes of the system at all, and say, ‘Why bother to vote,’” Gabriel Sterling, Georgia’s voting system implementation manager, told Yahoo News.
Seems to me he is also sabotaging the GOP!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
��His cabinet choices are outstanding��
Wrong .
Good the GOP are eating their young as the trump saga will continue long after he is gone!!!!!!
Lachlan Markay, Will Sommer
Tue, November 24, 2020, 4:46 AM EST
Photo Illustration by The Daily Beast / Photos Getty
Photo Illustration by The Daily Beast / Photos Getty
Conservative operatives and a super PAC with ties to infamous GOP dirty trickster Roger Stone are calling for Trump supporters to punish Republicans by sitting out Georgia’s crucial Senate runoffs or writing in Trump’s name instead. And though their efforts remains on the party’s fringes, the trajectory of the movement has Republicans fearful that it could cost the GOP control of the Senate.
The most aggressive call to boycott or cast protest ballots in the two runoff races has,
so far, come from a dormant pro-Trump super PAC with ties to Stone, which unveiled a new initiative to retaliate against the Republican Party’s supposed turncoats by handing Democrats control of the U.S. Senate.
The group, dubbed the Committee for American Sovereignty, unveiled a new website encouraging Georgia Republicans to write in Trump’s name in both of the upcoming Senate runoff elections, which could determine the party that controls the upper chamber during President-elect Joe Biden’s first two years in office. The PAC argued that doing so will show support for the president in addition to forcing Republicans to address the wild election-fraud conspiracy theories floated by Trump supporters and members of his own legal team.
Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis made the remarks during a Monday night appearance on MSNBC's The Beat with Ari Melber. Ellis was responding to a question from host Ari Melber, who asked what the "point" of continued legal challenges was in light of no plausible path to overturn the election outcome and the General Services Administration (GSA) officially "ascertaining" that Biden was the "apparent president-elect."
"Well the point of this, of course, is to get to fair and accurate results, because the election was stolen and President Trump won by a landslide,"
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Since Election Day, a Lot of Tweeting and Not Much Else for Trump
By Karen Yourish and Larry BuchananNov. 24, 2020
In the three weeks since Election Day, President Trump’s most visible presence has been on Twitter. Since Nov. 3, he has posted some 550 tweets — about three-quarters of which attempted to undermine the integrity of the 2020 election results.
He has also played golf 8 times perfecting his foot mashie technique!!!!!!
how soon does Harris stage her coup, and remove Joe?
Year two, seems to be the beating favorite, drawing the most money.
Janet Yellin good pick for Treasury Sec
But do not downplay the civil war engulfing the dem party. The hard left socialists vs the deep state beaurocrats. Get the popcorn.
But do not downplay the civil war engulfing the dee party.
Or the war going on in Ga with Roger stone trying to influence the senate races by GOP voter suppression!!!!!
Blogger JamesNewLeaf said...
This was the really deciding event:
GSA tells Biden team they can begin formal transition process
the threats against her life, her family, and even her pets had a lot to do with it, as she outlined in her letter to slow joe.
you guys are just itching for a hot civil war, and you may get it sooner than you could've possibly imagined.
Why have the riots stop?
Did the rioters serve their purpose?
Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
Why have the riots stop?
if recent news reports are to be believed, Minneapolis seems to have devolved into full-on third world shithole status.
U.S.—In an open letter addressed to state officials, Walmart leadership expressed gratefulness to the government for inflating their sales and stock price while completely pulverizing their small business competition.
"Yeah, we know 2020 has been tough for the little people," said one board member while shoveling piles of cash into his vault. "But it's been super great for us! No longer do we have to worry about the baker down the street or the family-owned hardware store next door taking away some of our business. The government just blew them up! We didn't even ask them to! Can you believe it? What luck!"
According to reports, Americans are really looking forward to giving all their business solely to giant mega-corporations like Walmart, Amazon, and McDonald's until all local culture has disappeared.
"This is my dream come true!" said Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos. "Within 10 years, everyone will be wearing the same identical futuristic grey jumpsuit and eating Amazon-issued food cubes, just like in the movies! That will be so cool."
Sources indicate most powerful corporations are advocating at least one more year of lockdowns to make sure small business competition stays dead. "We have to make sure those uppity business owners never threaten us again," said Bezos while sitting in a massive chair and stroking a white cat.
https://babylonbee.com/news/walmart-thanks-government-for-completely-obliterating-their-small-business-competition
'idiocracy' is playing out right before our eyes.
'idiocracy' is playing out right before our eyes.
Yes you do rat...you astound all of us with you lack of a working brain and your complete fealty to the loser trump's GOP!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!! Maybe donnie will send you a MAGA cap to wear around you house!!!!!
Who gives a shit about Roger stone other than dopey?
Stocks Rally on News Transition Moves Ahead
6:36 am EST
Financial Times: “Global stocks rallied after Donald Trump said his administration would co-operate with president-elect Joe Biden’s transition team.”
Thanksgiving Could Be Make-or-Break In Virus Response
6:41 am
Associated Press:
“As governors and mayors grapple with an out-of-control pandemic, they are ratcheting up mask mandates and imposing restrictions on small indoor gatherings, which have been blamed for accelerating the spread of the coronavirus. But while such measures carry the weight of law, they are, in practical terms, unenforceable, and officials are banking on voluntary compliance instead.
“Good luck with that. While many are undoubtedly heeding public health advice — downsizing Thanksgiving plans, avoiding get-togethers, wearing masks when they’re around people who don’t live with them — it’s inevitable that a segment of the population will blow off new state and local restrictions and socialize anyway. Experts say that could put greater stress on overburdened hospitals and lead to an even bigger spike in sickness and death over the holidays.”
A new Axios-Ipsos poll finds 39% of Americans did not change their Thanksgiving plans due to the pandemic.
_______________
So does that mean there be a 39% or more spike in Covid cases?
Park Avenue Helped Biden Win More than Scranton
7:11 am
USA Today: “Months before Election Day, the Biden campaign adopted an economic populist message aimed directly at white working-class voters, convinced they could peel off a small portion of President Trump’s base.
“Yet despite Biden’s election victory, this demographic – white voters without college degrees – remained just as loyal as ever to the president, defying public polling before the election that suggested Democrats were poised for small inroads.
“For Biden, wins in battleground states came thanks to growing support in affluent suburbs around cities like Atlanta, Philadelphia and Detroit where the president-elect expanded margins with a new Democratic stronghold: white voters who graduated college.”
AKA People who question and THINK.
TRUMP TWEETS & GOLFS AS PEOPLE DIE
Tweeting and Not Much Else for Trump
7:56 am
“In the three weeks since Election Day, President Trump’s most visible presence has been on Twitter. Since Nov. 3, he has posted some 550 tweets — about three-quarters of which attempted to undermine the integrity of the 2020 election results,” the New York Times reports.
“As Mr. Trump’s attacks continue, the coronavirus pandemic rages on, worse than ever. At least 24,000 people in the United States have died from Covid in the past three weeks.
“Mr. Trump’s public calendar, meanwhile, has been remarkably light, especially relative to his pre-election schedule, when he often attended multiple campaign rallies in a single day.”
Charles Koch Says He ‘Screwed Up’
8:01 am
Billionaire Charles Koch told Axios that he “screwed up by being partisan,” rather than approaching his network’s big-spending political action in a more nonpartisan way.
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So are even billionaires about to start becoming more bipartisan?
Barack Obama says Michelle never wanted to be caught by paparazzi in a bathing suit
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/michelle-obama-never-wanted-caught-paparazzi-bathing-suit-181125145.html
thank you to the world's paparazzi as there is not enough eye bleach in the world...
LOL.
Trump says he never wanted to be caught by a photographer in a bedroom with a porn star.
LOL Yes, that much we were spared!
, Minneapolis seems to have devolved into full-on third world shithol
You mean like albany and the crap hovel you live in??????
Trump says he never wanted to be caught by a photographer in a bedroom with a porn star.
Or like Rudy jerking off on a bed with some prank movie star????????BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Who gives a shit about Roger stone other than dopey?
Wow ballz your lack of intellect is only bettered by rat and the goat fucker....You should be worried what stone is doing in georgia telling R's to write in trump for the senate candidate!!!!!!!!! God you are the box that holds the rocks!
Did someone mention Roger Stone?
Roger Stone-Tied Group Threatens Georgia GOP
9:02 am
Daily Beast:
“Conservative operatives and a super PAC with ties to infamous GOP dirty trickster Roger Stone are calling for Trump supporters to punish Republicans by sitting out Georgia’s crucial Senate runoffs or writing in Trump’s name instead.
“And though their efforts remains on the party’s fringes, the trajectory of the movement has Republicans fearful that it could cost the GOP control of the Senate."
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Oh, that would be sweet! Yet another Frankenstein created by the GOP's attempt to keep the extreme right under its umbrella (voting for its candidates) rises up to bite it in the rear.
Joe Biden’s Team of Careerists
9:32 am
John Harris:
“The most prominent appointment President-elect Joe Biden has made for his new White House team is Chief of Staff Ron Klain — a long-time Biden adviser who went to Harvard Law School and won a prestigious Supreme Court clerkship.
“The most prominent appointment he has made so far to his cabinet is Secretary of State-designate Antony Blinken — a long-time Biden adviser who went to Harvard as an undergraduate and then moved through decades of prestigious posts in the Washington foreign policy establishment.
“Wait, you may wonder about this apparent Harvard focus, where is the diversity?!
“Not to worry. The choice to lead the National Security Council, Jake Sullivan, is a previous Biden adviser who went to Yale, before winning a Rhodes scholarship. And there is still lots of speculation about a likely spot for Bruce Reed, a veteran Biden aide who went to Princeton, before winning a Rhodes scholarship. His choice for Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, is not a long-time Biden adviser but is someone he has known for years. She went to Brown and Yale.”
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REAL BRAIN POWER!!!
When Trump got elected, Mike Bloomberg telephone to congratulate him and Trump asked, "What advice would you give me?"
Bloomberg told him to do "what I always do. I surround myself with people who know more than I do."
Trump told him there were no people "who know more than me."
SUPER DUNCE!
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