Tuesday, November 23, 2021

Well this is interesting....

Here I thought this was a slam dunk... until reading about the case from the trial, rather than what the media reported. How do so often get things so wrong that are so avoidable?

Arbery Case Trial: Based On Closing Arguments, Not Guilty Verdicts A Real Possibility Andrew Branca
Today was the first of two days of closing arguments in the Ahmaud Arbery case trial, in which defendants Greg McMichael, Travis McMichael, and Roddy Bryan are each facing a count of malice murder, four counts of felony murder, and then the four predicate felony counts (two for aggravated assault and two for false imprisonment).
So as not to bury the lede, the take-home message is that if I were being asked to render a verdict today, after listening to the State’s closing and all of the defense closing (but not yet the State’s rebuttal), and having not seen any of the actual trial, I’d be obliged to acquit all three defendants of all charges.
The State’s closing argument delivered by ADA Linda Dunikoski kicked things off—and it can only be described as really not very good at all—perhaps even qualifying as horrible. Mostly the defect was in tone and delivery, although it must be said that the presentation of facts was not very compelling, and she felt obliged to make various rather gross misstatements of law.
Delivery was in a mode of exasperation, with lots of kind of stomping around, hand waving, shaking of her head, as if she can’t really believe she has to actually explain all this stuff—isn’t it just obvious these defendants are guilty of all the things?
The tone involved a great deal of snark, snide remarks, and sarcasm—and while snark, snide remarks, and sarcasm may get a chuckle from your own team and the people already on your side, they do nothing whatever to persuade people not on your side to come on over. Indeed, for people not already on your side it is off-putting, and a net negative.
The defense began with the closing argument for Travis McMichael, made by Attorney Jason Sheffield; followed by the closing argument for Greg McMichael, made by Attorney Laura Hogue; and finally, the closing argument for William “Roddy” Bryan, made by Attorney Kevin Gough.
I found the closing arguments by all three defense attorneys to be vastly superior to that of ADA Dunikoski. Each built their closing around a theme or story arc that facilitated the ability to address the nine separate counts in a coherent way. The attorneys also accurately presented the relevant law (mostly), unlike the many misrepresentations of law made by the State.

Now Branca is a defense attorney who sees most people as not guilty and he does caution that he believes that the defense might be holding back a large portion of their defense arguments on "rebuttal".  That being said, I was under the impression that this was a slam dunk no brainer for the prosecution.

That being said, I have not watched anything regarding or even read about the trial. All I have are media accounts, and if all I had were media accounts in the Rittenhouse trial, I might have thought he was dead to rights as well.

But here is what I find interesting... because I have always been under the impression that Arbery was just an innocent jogger who was shot because he was black. Turns out Arbery was suspected of multiple crimes in the area and was not in fact "jogging" when shot. In fact there is no evidence that Arbery ever jogged anywhere, much less in this neighborhood. According to testimony he was simply lurking in the dark at a construction site?

What had been a charming little community was being ravaged by property crimes and burglaries. Homeowners began installing security cameras all over their homes for the first time. Parents would not allow their children to play outside after dinner, and then not at all. People began keeping guns accessible and talking with each other in person and in social media about the growing crime problem. They also began to make a lot of calls to 911, but the police response was ineffectual, as the suspicious persons were usually gone by the time the police arrived.
Apparently, one of the criminal predators committing serial property crimes in this neighborhood was one Ahmaud Arbery. He’d been caught repeatedly on surveillance camera, generally in the dark of night, inside a local home under construction from which thousands of dollars of property had been stolen over time—generally in the dark of night. On at least one occasion he’d been frightened into flight by neighbors seeing him lurking in shadows among houses, and having headlights put on him as the neighbors called 911.
Travis McMichael himself had a pistol stolen from his car, and a short time before the Feb. 23 death of Arbery had himself spotted Arbery lurking by the home under construction in the dark, called 911, put his headlights on Arbery, and observed Arbery realizing he’d been spotted and reaching for his waistband as if for a weapon. The 911 recording made contemporaneously with these events was played in court, and you can clearly hear the stress in Travis’ voice.

Now it still seems like this might not go the defense's way and it still probably shouldn't. There is a lot of political and social pressure here to get convictions and I am sure the jury is well aware of it. They also do not have actual evidence (only suspicion) that Arbery was responsible for any of the multiple burglaries in the area. That seems like a hard question in terms of justification for a citizen's arrest. While Branca argues that the reaction and running would have given police cause to pursue, Andrew McCarthy is not so sure. He still believes that the defendants overreacted (not as a matter of race or racism) but as a matter of being unjustified under the law.

At a minimum, it appears that Travis McMichael, who shot Arbery multiple times, should be convicted of murder, in addition to the other charges. Furthermore, the evidence would support holding both Greg McMichael and Roddie Bryan accountable for the murder since they were willing participants in the chase, even if they did not pull the trigger. Consequently, if the state convicted all defendants on all charges, that would be a just result — it is the verdict I would vote for. Yet I cannot say it would be irrational for the jury to acquit Bryan and the elder McMichael of murder, while convicting them of the assault and false-imprisonment charges. That, too, would be a just verdict.

Ultimately this case seems a hell of a lot different when you actually know the facts, not just what the media reported. A neighborhood in criminal alarms status, forced to do a neighborhood watch (because police are unresponsive). Seeing a well known suspect  (seen multiple times on surveillance cameras) lurking around at some new construction, running away as soon as he is seen under the headlights? Knowing the police are not going to help. 

Is the idea of an attempted citizen's arrest as crazy as the media makes it sound like? If that was my neighborhood, would I have pursued this guy? Would any of you pursued him under these same circumstance? Are people not allowed to feel safe in their own neighborhoods? Obviously, the man should not be dead, but this is not as simple as it was made out to be and it is quite possible that a bad prosecution in this case could lead to acquittals. 


70 comments:

rrb said...



Would any of you pursued him under these same circumstance?

Not a chance. Let him step onto my property though and then the game changes dramatically.

True story - about 10 years ago on Thanksgiving day a guy who was driving on I-90 spotted his car which had been stolen a day earlier with some black guy behind the wheel. He gives chase while calling 911. Black guy exits I-90 in stolen car and drives straight into my neighborhood, ditches car and takes off on foot. We have a state police chopper circling the neighborhood very low, looking everywhere. Troopers and town cops in cruisers racing up and down neighborhood streets looking for the piece of shit.

Now keep in mind, in addition to being Thanksgiving day, it's deer season. Lucky for car thief he didn't jump my fence and choose my yard to hide in. Unlucky for car thief the fence he did jump and the backyard he DID choose to hide in was the residence of a retired cop.

Little black car thief finds himself staring down the business end of a .357 magnum. The retired cop showed remarkable restraint. Little black car thief ended up in handcuffs instead of a body bag.




Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

So Ch comes up with an article by Andrew Branca,
a lawyer tool and lifetime member of the NRA,
And as usual, Ch dances all about.

Commonsense said...

Don't know the law in Georgia, but in Florida you have to be in fear of death or bodily harm or you are defending someone from death or bodily harm.

And you can only perform a citizen's arrest if you directly witness a crime. (They also have a castle doctrine, right in RRB's wheel house.

At no point can you shoot a fleeing suspect.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I just reread Ch's article. Note the following, which indicates that even Branca thinks a guilty verdict is called for.

At a minimum, it appears that Travis McMichael, who shot Arbery multiple times, should be convicted of murder, in addition to the other charges. Furthermore, the evidence would support holding both Greg McMichael and Roddie Bryan accountable for the murder since they were willing participants in the chase, even if they did not pull the trigger. Consequently, if the state convicted all defendants on all charges, that would be a just result — it is the verdict I would vote for. Yet I cannot say it would be irrational for the jury to acquit Bryan and the elder McMichael of murder, while convicting them of the assault and false-imprisonment charges. That, too, would be a just verdict.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Apparently Ch is hoping for something else-- "a bad prosecution" leading to "acquitals."

James's Fucking Daddy said...


Decent, honest teller of truth said...
I just reread Ch's article. Note the following, which indicates that even Branca thinks a guilty verdict is called for.


even after supposedly "rereading" you have alky level reading comprehension.

Read this slowly which immediately precedes what you pulled out

While Branca argues that the reaction and running would have given police cause to pursue, Andrew McCarthy is not so sure. He still believes that the defendants overreacted (not as a matter of race or racism) but as a matter of being unjustified under the law.

boy are you fucked up

Well you were demanding CHT post about it now is your chance to do an on topic original post even if you can't grasp what he wrote...

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LOL After Ch claims Branca is "not so sure," read what Branca himself says IN MY POST.

And you say I'M Flubbed up?

ROFLMFAO!!!!

Not only that, but even in what Ch said, he admits that Branca "still believes that the defendants overreacted (not as a matter of race or racism) but as a matter of being unjustified under the law."

"UNJUSTIFIED under the law" -- a FATAL breach of the law.

Excuse me while I again ROLL ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Just in case F Daddy misread,
the words in the long paragraph at 1:13 are BRANCA'S WORDS.

Joseph Stalin aka Donald Trump said...

The Trump Republican has followed my path

“‘Never Trump’ was a label embraced by a handful of Republicans who deemed Donald Trump disqualified for office by some combination of his ignorance, his mendacity, his bigotry, and/or his authoritarianism. Almost no one still affiliated with the party or the conservative movement willingly uses the label any more. The label has largely been repurposed by Trump himself as an epithet against any Republican who dares utter criticism of him, however mild. “Never Trump” now serves essentially the same role in right-wing discourse as ‘Trotskyite’ did in Stalin’s Russia — an all-purpose accusation of secret disloyalties, which must be fervently disavowed.”

“In place of Never Trumpism, the Biden-era Republican party offers up figures like Chris Christie. Christie has put himself forward as the face of Republican resistance to Trump. But it is a form of ‘resistance’ so tepid as to become almost indistinguishable from support.”

It will happen on January 20th in 2025.

The slow motion coup I lead to creating The Soviet Union.

History is repeating itself as Roger said.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Goddard reports the Daily Beast reports:
Oklahoma GOP Chief Demands Resignation of RNC Chair
2:30 pm EST

“The head of the Oklahoma Republican Party on Tuesday called on Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel to resign after she expressed the party’s commitment to the LGBTQ+ community at a gala earlier this month."

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Goddard reports CNN reports:
Lawmakers Describe Roiling Animosity
2:05 pm EST

Many members within the House of Representatives have told CNN “that they find themselves in a toxic work environment, wrought with bitter exchanges, threats and fears about what the erosion of decorum in the chamber will mean for a body that has still not recovered 10 months after the Capitol Hill riot.”


Goddard reports THE WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORT:
Trump’s Big Lie Tests Republican Candidates
2:00 pm EST

“Former President Donald Trump’s yearlong campaign falsely claiming he won the 2020 election and demanding redress is turning voter fraud into a litmus test for Republicans seeking office as the party seeks to reclaim the House and Senate in 2022.

“Mr. Trump has told advisers the issue will help the party win control of Congress next year and win back the White House in 2024. He has privately floated the possibility of an early presidential campaign announcement to underscore the message to conservative voters.

“Many Republican candidates have fallen in line.”

T. Goddard comments:
An interesting side note is that Trump has privately said he doesn’t think Al Gore should have conceded in 2000.

James's Fucking Daddy said...

Decent, honest teller of truth (a lie) said...
Just in case F Daddy misread,
the words in the long paragraph at 1:13 are BRANCA'S WORDS.

Wrong again idiot. Try reading REAL SLOW

"Andrew McCarthy is not so sure. He still believes that the defendants overreacted (not as a matter of race or racism) but as a matter of being unjustified under the law.

At a minimum, it appears that Travis McMichael, who shot Arbery multiple times, should be convicted of murder, in addition to the other charges. Furthermore, the evidence would support holding both Greg McMichael and Roddie Bryan accountable for the murder since they were willing participants in the chase, even if they did not pull the trigger. Consequently, if the state convicted all defendants on all charges, that would be a just result — it is the verdict I would vote for. Yet I cannot say it would be irrational for the jury to acquit Bryan and the elder McMichael of murder, while convicting them of the assault and false-imprisonment charges. That, too, would be a just verdict."

Those are not "BRANCA'S WORDS." They are Andrew McCarthy's words.


CHT even linked that for you:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/11/race-and-the-murder-of-ahmaud-arbery/


See if you can figure it out after re-reading it for what, the 5th time ???

No wonder you are a Goddard blog copying toadie.

Your comprehension is ridiculous

You may even believe you don't lie.

Probably have no idea what that means either

James's Fucking Daddy said...


*What a fucking idiot

maybe the 6th time will be the charm

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Correction: Having accused F Daddy of misreading, I saw (before I saw his last post) that I had misread.

I should have said that even after Andrew McCarthy said what he said in Ch's cite, he STILL said what he said in myh 3:11 quote.

That being made clear, my point still stands.

And I NEVER consciously lie. I can misread and make a mistake, but I do not consciously lie.

James's Fucking Daddy said...

And after all the demanding for CHT to create a thread about the Arbery Case Trial the "pastor" has nothing to contribute.

except off-topic Goddard blog posts.

And he can't comprehend the short column CHT put together

embarrassing if you had an ounce of intellect and honest.

Which he apparently lacks

Anonymous said...

Roger told us :
"In the last two weeks, the President Biden has been working to open the ports in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and San Diego.

This is the only thing the President can do to address inflation rates"

Not the dumbest Economic thing he has said but clearly Top 5.


FIREWOOD PRICES SOARS


Roger will not defend his posts.

James's Fucking Daddy said...


Decent, honest teller of truth said...

"myh 3:11 quote."


myh

3:11

I think the spelling/grammar Nazi has become unhinged

Don't let him test drive a red SUV

and when the POS "pastor" calls himself a Decent, honest teller of truth we all know he is lying.

Even him.

Anonymous said...

Hat Tip to RRB.

Joe on Day #1 puts his throat on US Oil/Gas Production. Today the Fucktard release oil from the Strategic Oil Reserve.

That is Alky Level Stupid.

James's Fucking Daddy said...


Dollar Tree just announced the are raising prices 25% to 1.25.

Guess that will hurt those democrat billionaires

Anonymous said...

James goes by Jane as well.

He did Refer to himself as a HER yesterday, it was not her first time.

C.H. Truth said...

Keep in mind that Branca is a defense attorney, who specializes in Self Defense. McCarthy is a former prosecutor.

Two different views from people with two different backgrounds.


But the overall point is simple here:

This was not a situation (as described by the media) where there was a black man jogging down the street who was then chased down by hillbillies in a pickup who shot him for sport.

He was not jogging. He was seen (as he had been multiple times) lurking around this neighborhood (not his neighborhood) after dark and was then chased.


This issue is whether there was a justification to chase. Branca says yes, while McCarthy says no.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott wants to expand the second amendment rights to allow vigilantes as guaranteed by.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

He wants militia groups defend the free State as he defineds them.

Black men walking through his neighbor's streets and a security militants can shoot them because he thinks they present a threat when they carry a skateboard.





rrb said...



This issue is whether there was a justification to chase. Branca says yes, while McCarthy says no.

I'm with McCarthy on this one but only from the perspective of what's practical. Rittenhouse shot in self-defense. While I'm sure Arbery was a thief, you just can't go around blowing thieves away. While understandable, there's just too much downside from which you may never recover. Don't end up in jail for life for shooting some asshole unless you're completely in the right to do so. they're not worth it, and they probably end up dying in a drive by soon enough anyway. Let one of their own do the work.






Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Pravda squared!


Newsmax turns against right-wing conspiracy theories — and hire 'straight news' Fox producers

Sarah K. Burris

November 14, 2021

The Daily Beast is reporting that Newsmax has taken a turn in their editorial content akin to the direction that Fox News is taking.

Despite the misinformation, Fox continues with personalities like Tucker Carlson and others, but as far back as February, the network was broadcasting reports that fact-checked lies about the 2020 election results. That month it also canceled Lou Dobbs the day after conspiracy theories from him led to Fox Business being sued for $2.7 billion. The network said that the two incidents weren't related.

Now Newsmax appears to be following suit, albeit only a little. The report explained that they have hired two Fox producers and reporter James Rosen.

"Between multiple billion-dollar lawsuits over its 2020 election-fraud lies and having a star White House reporter go all-in on satanic vaccine conspiracy theories, Newsmax seems to face a similar predicament Fox News has faced in recent years," said the Beast. "The fledgling MAGA channel's solution seems to be going on a hiring spree of former Fox News producers and reporters."

Newsmax hired some of former President Donald Trump's biggest names from his campaign in 2016 and administration like Sean Spicer, Sebastian Gorka, and Steve Cortes.

Over the past few weeks, however, the network came under fire after Emerald Robinson, Newsmax's White House reporter, told her Twitter followers that the COVID-19 vaccines contain a "bioluminescent marker called LUCIFERASE" that also serves as a tracking device.

I wonder if Trump would try and restore the fairness Doctrine on the internet and again broadcast TV.



C.H. Truth said...

Since we are just making shit up about other people... how is this?

Roger wants to redefine the law to allow him to beat up black women.

anonymous said...

BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! And the law allowed you ro marry a child, Lil Schitty!!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Black men walking through his neighbor's streets and a security militants can shoot them because he thinks they present a threat when they carry a skateboard.

The color of the man is not mentioned as an issue in this trial, Roger.

Only racists like you want to make it an issue.

What is at issue was that this man had no business in that particular neighborhood, but kept showing up, and things kept going missing... including a hand gun stolen out of a car. So while we can argue that they never saw him specifically stealing anything, it would seem quite the coincidence that he kept getting caught on surveillance feeds after dark in places that had things stolen from.

They didn't just shoot him because they saw him. They were attempting to make a citizen's arrest, they chased him, and there was an obvious altercation at which time the guy was shot. The question was whether the chase was justified (or not) which then leads to whether or not the shooting was justified.

The prosecutions case isn't about the altercation... but about what led to it.


As far as the skateboard... someone was just murdered with a skateboard. Just in the past couple of weeks (and others have been killed in the past with skateboards). So only an idiot would think that it cannot be used as a weapon.

But go ahead Roger...

Chase someone carrying a rifle and then club that person in the head with a skateboard. See where that gets you. Either dead and buried, maimed, or in jail for assault.

rrb said...

Blogger KansasDemocrat said...

Hat Tip to RRB.

Joe on Day #1 puts his throat on US Oil/Gas Production. Today the Fucktard release oil from the Strategic Oil Reserve.

That is Alky Level Stupid.



This one too, was easy to predict.

What's so galling about this whole oil price SPR thing is the sheer magnitude of the dishonesty involved from Biden. Biden has single handedly done more to fuck up oil and gas prices than anyone, and now that it's becoming a big fucking problem he takes two dishonest measures - tapping the SPR which does absolutely NOTHING, and then accusing the oil co's of collusion which is also not the case. Global consumption is 100M barrels/day. US consumption is 18M. Fuel has an incredibly durable and inelastic demand curve. Folks still need to get around so they'll cut corners on other things before they cut fuel consumption. And cutting demand for other goods hinders overall recovery. So eventually it sucks ALL the way around and harms the economy overall.

We're dealing with a regime that is over the top dishonest, and stupid on a room temperature IQ basis.

They get away with it with imbeciles like the alky because he has no exposure to the outside world, and no basic understanding of economics.

Plagiarize economic news and data until the cows come home, but if you do not possess the ability to understand what you're stealing you just make a laughingstock out of yourself. A classic self-own.

rrb said...



I wonder if Trump would try and restore the fairness Doctrine on the internet and again broadcast TV.


Why would he alky?

It's the left who demands to censor and silence their political opposition. Not the right. And it's been this way since Reagan shitcanned the fairness doctrine.

Our message sells. The left's message needs an artificial advantage to compete.

Now that you mention it, how IS Air America doing these days, hmmmmm???

LOL.

THWAP!!!



Anonymous said...

Joe caused it,

""It will take time, but before long, you should see the price of gas drop where you fill up your tank," he said during his remarks. "And in the longer term, we will reduce our reliance on oil as we shift to clean energy".

Clean energy is at best 15 years out.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A little political humor...

The Difference Between Republicans and Democrats

A young man, down on his luck, was hitch-hiking through New England. A well-dressed man driving a Lincoln pulled up, lowered the passenger side window, and asked, “Do you vote Republican or Democrat?”

“Democrat,” said the hitch-hiker. And the Lincoln sped off in a cloud of dust.

The next car that pulled up was a Mercedes and the same question was asked. Once again the driver sped away, leaving him beside the road.

He plodded on until a beautiful woman stopped her Mustang GT and, predictably, asked about his politics.

In desperation the young man said, “I’m a Republican.”

The woman welcomed him aboard, and they sped off down the road.

She was gorgeous. She had the face of a goddess, eyes the color of the sea on a sunny day, golden hair, and legs so beautiful that he couldn’t take his eyes off them as her feet moved on the pedals.

They hadn’t gone very far when he said, “Stop the car. I want to walk.”

“Why?” she asked.

“I’ve been a Republican for ten minutes and already I want to screw somebody.”

rrb said...


,b>Clean energy is at best 15 years out.</b.

If "clean" energy was viable, the private sector would've capitalized on it by now.

The fact is there's nothing "clean" about it. It's always been bullshit. It's just government subsidized bullshit, which makes it fashionable to the left.

It's also one of the more clever money laundering schemes the democrats have come up with. As cali has pointed out umpteen times.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I knew what you would say...


Welcome back to Gunsmoke


Anonymous said...

Why is Biden and Harris suddenly talking about Inflation?

They said they have it under control.

anonymous said...


Joe caused it,


YEP.....JOE CAUSED YOUR BRAIN DAMAGE STUMP BROKE!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Alky, no need, we are laughing @ you.

Your economic post are those of a child.

"Only" waaaaaas

Anonymous said...

The facts are that Joe was given an energy independent and exporting Economy, he promptly ended it.

anonymous said...


If "clean" energy was viable, the private sector would've capitalized on it by now.


I guess all those solar, wind and tide programs are just chickenshit and not being funded by private money.......BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Why do you still have your head stuck in your ass???????

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

I knew what you would say...


Welcome back to Gunsmoke


LOL.

That's all you can muster without plagiarism alky?

Two weak sentences in response.

God, you are pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Denny, all of those combine provide what percent of the US Current energy needs?

You forgot to included clean green carbon neutral wood heat.

Anonymous said...

Today gasoline National Average
$3.40

A year ago, $2.10

Let's go Brandon

C.H. Truth said...

That's all you can muster without plagiarism alky?

An angry old white guy... projecting his racism on to others!

Pretending to be an ultra-liberal so he can really feel ashamed of himself for being born white.

Classic!

Anonymous said...

Roger is shopping for a House at Bonney Lake , Washington and a new Audi A8 .

He might be preoccupied.

Anonymous said...

Cite : CNBC

Roger, here is help.

"With rising inflation and a hot housing market, here’s what you need to know about buying a home right now

PUBLISHED TUE, NOV 23,2021.

anonymous said...

KansasDemocrat said...
Roger is shopping for a House at Bonney Lake

Sure sounds like a stump broken goat fucker habitat!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Still living in your mommy's root cellar?????? LOLOLOLOLOL. Sad your retardation is sooooo deep!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The goat fucking joke is just another example of


Some of the more laughable images from the QAnon presence in Dallas have been of Protzman with a bird on his shoulder, showing the long single file of Q adherents a nonexistent Illuminati (an organization that doesn’t exist) pyramid on the Book Depository. False prophets with bizarre birds are not new. In the People’s Crusade, one of the episodes that monastic chroniclers repeatedly mock were preachers following animals. Albert of Aachen wrote of a “gathering of people on foot, who were stupid and insanely irresponsible,” who claimed “that a certain goose was inspired by the Holy Ghost, and a she-goat filled no less with the same, and they had made these their leaders for this holy journey to Jerusalem.” Ekkehard of Aura wrote it as “the silly tale about the goose who is supposed to have led her mistress and many others of that sort.” It was very easy for Christian monastic authors to make fun of it, safe in their monasteries and not dealing with the consequences. Another version of the tale, though, starts similarly but ends in tragedy. In the chronicle of Solomon bar Simson, a twelfth-century edited collection of Jewish historical accounts, we find that that, “One day a Gentile woman came, bringing a goose which she had raised since it was a newborn. The goose would accompany her wherever she went. The Gentile woman now called out to all the passersby: ‘Look, the goose understands my intention to go straying and desires to accompany me.’” Despite this, groups gathered and used this so-called “wonder” to threaten the Jewish community of Mainz, that the magic goose was a “signal that they should exact vengeance from their enemies.” The crusaders and the townsfolk fought, until a crusader was slain, at which point the group called out, “The Jews have caused this,” and both groups joined forces to attack the Jewish community.

Protzman has some 97,000 followers on Telegram, and while the number of Q types gathered in Dallas has dropped from 350-500 in the first few days to perhaps 75-100 now, more than a week after the original promised deadline for JFK’s reappearance, they are still there with him. Protzman seems to believe that JFK and Jackie Kennedy were the second physical incarnations of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, and direct descendants in a genealogy so bizarre not even Dan Brown would touch it, with JFK Jr. as the Archangel Michael and Donald Trump as the Holy Spirit.

You do worshipped Trump hmmmmmmmmlol

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Unlike you I don't believe that my Anglo Saxon DNA makes me a superior person like you do

Some of us can think independently for our DNA influenced mind...

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Unlike you I don't believe that my Anglo Saxon DNA makes me a superior person like you do


Then why do you refer to blacks as NEGROES, alky?


Some of us can think independently for our DNA influenced mind.

I'm not sure what a "DNA influenced mind" is, but how do you explain your 100+ plagiarisms/day? Is that your idea of independent thinking alky?



rrb said...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpHuRO1QXgw

RITTENHOUSE FOUND NOT GUILTY!!!!

rrb said...


Delightful -

https://twitter.com/i/status/1461888893775581188

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Milley was not going to allow an unstable commander in chief, who he believed had engaged in a treasonous violation of his oath, to use the military improperly. The Schlesinger revival, 47 years after Nixon, had been necessary, a wise check, carefully calibrated, Milley was sure. Was he subverting the president? Some might contend Milley had overstepped his authority and taken extraordinary power for himself. But his actions, he believed, were a good faith precaution to ensure there was no historic rupture in the international order, no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The former liar in Chief said...

"For decades our Country's very important Strategic Oil Reserves were low or virtually empty in that no President wanted to pay the price of filling them up. I filled them up three years ago, right to the top, when oil prices were very low. Those reserves are meant to be used for serious emergencies, like war, and nothing else,"

But the Strategic Oil Reserves were far from empty when Trump took office, but they were far less full when he left.


Prove me wrong. But you will insult and run and hide Thecoldheartedtruth

rrb said...



Students in Washington, DC were shocked to hear about this year’s Thanksgiving inflation, and said that Americans were better off under former President Donald Trump.

https://youtu.be/ttUKgzni8-Q


LOL.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump's words and my words
.

For decades our Country's very important Strategic Oil Reserves were low or virtually empty in that no President wanted to pay the price of filling them up. I filled them up three years ago, right to the top, when oil prices were very low. Those reserves are meant to be used for serious emergencies, like war, and nothing else,"

But the Strategic Oil Reserves were far from empty when Trump took office, but they were far less full when he left.


Prove me wrong. But you will insult and run and hide Thecoldheartedtruth

rrb said...

Prove YOU wrong?

No one cares about your chronic plagiarism alky.

What makes you think you even matter?

Any hack can spam the blog morning, noon, and night with the work of others.

You're not even worth a pedestrian-level insult.



Myballs said...

Our president is so brain dead, he actually read 'end of quote' off the teleprompter. He won't last a full term.

Myballs said...

Prove you wrong? Why? Who gives a fuck what you think?

rrb said...



Huh. Not working as planned. You don't say?

Backfire: Oil Prices Soar as Market Rejects Biden Administration’s Strategic Reserve Ploy

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2021/11/23/reserve-release-backfires/

This is tough. we are not even one full year into a "presidency" that the entire world thinks is a laughingstock, and does not take seriously. And there's three more disastrous years to go. $5 gas but no more mean tweets! Whee!




rrb said...


Our president is so brain dead, he actually read 'end of quote' off the teleprompter. He won't last a full term.

A while back the hashtag 'Dead by Christmas' was trending on Twitter. I think he makes this year's and honestly I hope he makes them all. The $5 whore waiting in the wings is just as fucking stupid, but without the benefit of blaming it on old age and dementia.

She's just THAT fucking stupid.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Majority Say Their Lives Have Returned to ‘Normal’
4:26 pm EST

A new Yahoo News/YouGov poll finds that 74% of Americans say their lives have returned to “normal” since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic.


Joe Biden Needs an Enemy
3:40 pm EST

Molly Jong Fast:
“To improve Biden’s popularity, earnest consultants might tell him to work on the fundamentals.
But the fundamentals are actually good:
The economy is getting better.
Americans have both cash and jobs.
Sure, inflation is an issue,
but it’s a global phenomenon and not unexpected, because we’re coming out of a pandemic.
The disconnect between the facts and the polls suggests that Biden’s true problem is a narrative one.

Specifically, he doesn’t have an enemy, a punching bag to absorb Americans’ anger (rational or irrational).

Said James Carville:
“As of now the White House does not have good story tellers.
Good stories need villains.”

rrb said...



The Real Reason the Angry Left is Outraged Over the Rittenhouse Trial Verdict

Basically guys, all the outrage over this trial is because the left is terrified of losing another tool in their toolbox. They love lawless mobs terrorizing you and wrecking your stuff. They love having you too scared of the system to stand up to their dirtbags.

So that’s why they are lying their asses off and shedding fake tears for pedophile scum. The jury’s decision didn’t just say Rittenhouse was not guilty, but by extension, it says their useful idiot rioters were guilty, which damages the narrative. And anytime the truth goes against the narrative, the truth gets a bullet to the back of the neck.


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-real-reason-the-angry-left-is-outraged-over-the-rittenhouse-trial-verdict/


Yep. That, combined with the countless quiet people out there who just want to be left alone, who are now coming around to the idea of -

"Well fuck THIS shit."

The Burn, Loot, Murder left needs to become terrified, petrified, and horrified at the prospect of there being a law abiding armed citizenry out there who have finally reached the end of their fucking rope.

And the next time some black bloc shitstain strikes a match, he thinks twice because he just might end up like the child rapist, domestic abuser, and missing bicep boy.

The worm is turning, ladies and gentlemen.




rrb said...



The disconnect between the facts and the polls suggests that Biden’s true problem is a narrative one.

Why yes, that's exactly it pederast.

Slow Joe just needs a better line of bullshit, err, narrative. Liberals love narratives.

Here's a narrative for you - those jobs Brandon Poopypants is taking credit for...

They're not new.

People are RETURNING to jobs that were suspended for no good fucking reason at all. Because a bad orange man needed to be destroyed.

rrb said...



Even a worm will turn

"Even a worm will turn" is an expression used to convey the message that even the meekest or most docile of creatures will retaliate or seek revenge if pushed too far.

The phrase was first recorded in a 1546 collection of proverbs by John Heywood, in the form "Treade a worme on the tayle, and it must turne agayne."


- Wikipedia

C.H. Truth said...

Unlike you I don't believe that my Anglo Saxon DNA makes me a superior person like you do

Quite obviously your presence as an Anglo Saxon human proves that there is no Anglo Saxon superiority. Your existence might actually point to an inferiority.

Myballs said...

There's no improving the border or Afghanistan narratives.

Commonsense said...

Unlike you I don't believe that my Anglo Saxon DNA makes me a superior person like you do

You mention your ancestors were Germanic and never set foot in Great Britain.

And according to the writings of Adolf Hitler, you certainly though you were superior.

Commonsense said...



I think you prove yourself wrong. It make sense to top off the SPR while prices were at an historic low.

Trump to fill U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve “to the very top”

Prove yourself right.

Anonymous said...

Great Job CommonScense.

Facts defeat stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Then why do you refer to blacks as NEGROES, alky?" RRB

ROGER also called Black Adult males "black boy".

Anonymous said...

Truly the entire Administration is in over their heads.

"A reporter who was present for her remarks asked the energy secretary, "How many barrels of oil does the U.S. consume per day?"

"I don't have that number in front of me. Sorry," Granholm replied."

Unqualified.