Thursday, April 14, 2022

People know that "don't say gay" is a lie and it is hurting Democrats...

Democrats have a big problem. That problem is that they believe their problem is messaging.


I literally feel sorry for people who can get so riled up over a lie. Now we can bicker and argue about election fraud and that becomes a matter of opinion. But a law that simply demands that children not be taught about sexuality in K-3 has nothing to do with saying gay. To suggest that it does is literally a flat out lie. To believe that flat out lie takes some real stupidity or an ability to be okay with lying. 

It is all odd because when I grew up I managed to finish 6th grade and move into Jr High without sex education, without learning anything personal about my teachers, and without  getting indoctrinated with political rhetoric. We actually learned math, science, english, and such. I graduated from elementary school at about a 98th percentile nationally. I knew my teachers name and pretty much that was it. Well one year Ms Holmgren became Mrs Sorenson so we found out she got married. But you get the point. I didn't need a personal relationship to learn (nor would it have probably done any good). 

Any parent who gives a shit about their kids would realize the role models and people teaching their children about ethics, morality, or the life lessons we invariably need to learn are those people who will be around you for the long haul. These things cannot be taught by someone who sees your child (along with a few dozen others) a few days a week for nine months out of the year, then moves on to a different set of children the next year. Teachers do not generally develop that relationship (nor should they be expected to) that is necessary for a child to really find a mentor. 

Even if those teachers wanted to, how many children can they become emotionally attached to over the course of several years and how would those attachments affect their ability to teach the rest of the children what they need to know to pass their grade. I am not talking about social issues or life lessons, but the actual math, science, and english that our schools are designed to teach.

When kids hit puberty and things start to change, they need someone who they know and trust, not someone who will only be part of their lives for 9 months. When the big questions start to creep up and the talks start to happen, that needs to happen outside of a classroom and certainly should not be pushed on a class of individuals who will be at all different maturity and quite frankly sexual levels.

Either way, the concept of children under the age of 8 being taught by pretty much strangers about sexuality and taught how they should be politically reacting to various sexualities is not in the best interest of children and certainly not what most parents want to see happening. For Democrats to believe that they can "shame" parents into giving up all control over their children's education is not just a bad strategy, but a recklessly dangerous strategy that could be the backfire of holy backfires. 

This is not an argument that liberals are going to win with clever semantics or by having idiots carry signs in protest. People are "over" the "woke" cause and are not afraid to stand up to it anymore. In fact, liberals will lose by just making the argument and they could lose very badly. Not sure if I can make it any more simple than that.

58 comments:

Anonymous said...

Biden ordered the FBI to investigate and harass Parents.

The woke Teachers Union demanded it and Biden did it.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ch said:
"...when I grew up I managed to finish 6th grade and move into Jr High without sex education, without learning anything personal about my teachers, and without getting indoctrinated with political rhetoric."
________

I SAY:
I went all through the lower grades and on into high school without ever once being told, taught, or even having it suggested to me -- not even in my ninth grade social study class -- that the kind of respect we should have for one another should also include people who are sexually attracted to people of their own gender, an orientation with which most of them feel they were born.

I can't imagine the kind of stress and suffering caused to some pupils and students who felt such leanings yet never had any assurance from any authority figures that their sexual attraction to others of their own gender was nothing to be ashamed of, nor should it condemn them to being rejected and laughed at and called "queer" or "faggot" or lesbian or whatever.

I'm glad that even at a somewhat young age, children are now being taught that there are children whose closest family circle consists of two male parents or two female parents who care for them and love them just as deeply as those who have more conventional families headed by mommies and daddies.

To teach that those children are fortunate who have caring same gender parents is rightly supportive, and reflects the reality of our time.

I will not stand for people teaching that all same gender relationships are an "abomination," as certain Old Testament scriptures state, scriptures that also teach that eating pork, catfish, and shrimp is an "abomination" along with merely touching a corpse, whether human or animal -- that also is an "abomination."

If some people want to teach that in privately financed religious schools, that is their choice, though I think a terribly bad and superstitious one, and more and more of the younger generation of evangelical Christians are coming to think that way too, and are now insisting on saying so, even when it is causing severe strains and dissessions within their churches.

America should be a land where all people are treated with respect and acceptance regardless of their sexual orientation, and that, I think, is more and more being regarded and defended as a right protected by our Constitution, and should be approprately taught to proper age groups of children in our schools.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Because I was a reader of medicine in grade school I learned about sexuality and I don't know why you should give a shit because of your libertarian view.

A crazy neighbor should be able to ban a book ��

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Stephen Miller admitted to Trump’s coup attempt — here’s why it matters: MSNBC's Ari Melber

Bob Brigham

April 14, 2022

As former Donald Trump senior advisor Stephen Miller testifies before the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol, MSNBC's chief legal correspondent broke down why Miller's public statements following Trump's 2020 presidential campaign defeat matter.

Ari Melber reported that Stephen Miller ended the Trump administration "openly, talking up a plot to steal the election with fraudulent electors."

"This all began and was actually seeping out in little ways into the public days before the insurrection. That's when Stephen Miller began one the first confessions of the tactics that would amount to a thwarted coup," he explained. "So at the time it might have sounded like more puffery and rhetoric from this ship of fools that was going down a legal ocean, but in fact I bring it back up tonight because, well, Stephen Miller is under a lot of pressure tonight and the fact is he was actually admitting specific tactics then — days before January 6th — about their plot to overthrow democracy."

Melber played a clip of Miller discussing a plot for "alternative electors" during a Dec. 14, 2020 appearance on Fox News.

"What Miller admitted there matters. It shows how far he would go for Trump and it was not until many months later we learned how serious that fraudulent electors plot was," Melber noted.

Melber went on to play a second clip of Miller, this time talking to Lou Dobbs on Fox Business, urging tens of millions of ballots being tossed out.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Rioter Who Followed ‘Presidential Orders’ Found Guilty
April 14, 2022 at 5:41 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 65 Comments

“A January 6 rioter who claimed he was following ‘presidential orders’ when he stormed the US Capitol and stole liquor and a coat rack was convicted Thursday on all charges by a jury in Washington, DC,” CNN reports.



Russians Offered Congressman Free Trip
April 14, 2022 at 5:43 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 86 Comments

“Federal prosecutors in New York on Thursday unsealed an indictment charging a member of Russia’s legislature and two of his staffers with orchestrating a propaganda and disinformation campaign targeting US lawmakers,” CNN reports.

“As part of the alleged scheme, in 2017, prosecutors said the men allegedly violated US sanctions laws by seeking to recruit at least one US businessman and at least one congressman with an all-expenses paid trip to attend a conference in Yalta, an area in Russian-controlled Crimea, for the benefit of Sergey Aksyonov, a Russian placed on the US sanctions list following Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

“The congressman, who was not identified, did not accept the invitation, the indictment said.”



THEIR FLAGSHIP HAS SUNK!

Russian Warship Ukraine Claimed to Have Hit HAS SUNK
April 14, 2022 at 4:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 492 Comments

“The Russian Defense Ministry says its naval flagship Moskva has sunk in the Black Sea while being towed in a storm. Ukraine had claimed it hit the cruiser with a missile strike,” the New York Times reports.

“Moscow denied the ship had been hit by missiles, but acknowledged it was on fire.”


CIA Director Says Putin Might Turn to Nuclear Weapons
April 14, 2022 at 7:53 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 9 Comments

CIA Director William Burns “said on Thursday that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s ‘potential desperation’ to extract the semblance of a victory in Ukraine could tempt him to order the use of a tactical or low-yield nuclear weapon, publicly discussing for the first time a concern that has coursed through the White House during seven weeks of conflict,”
the New York Times reports.

“But he quickly cautioned that so far, despite Mr. Putin’s frequent invocation of nuclear threats, he had seen no ‘practical evidence’ of the kinds of military deployments or movement of weapons that would suggest such a move was imminent.”

C.H. Truth said...

I went all through the lower grades and on into high school without ever once being told, taught, or even having it suggested to me -- not even in my ninth grade social study class -- that the kind of respect we should have for one another should also include people who are sexually attracted to people of their own gender, an orientation with which most of them feel they were born.

So you are saying that tolerance for other lifestyle has to be "taught" in school otherwise people will not be tolerant?

Because I sort thought that this was a personality trait that people should either have as a basic underlying concept or that it would be instilled by parents, family, or even clergy and church (for those who attend).


But I guess you must believe that human nature is something that a sixth grade teacher standing in front of 40 students for 6-7 hours 180 days or so should be teaching...

Rather than teaching math, science, english, history, social studies, etc...


I mean... sorry Reverend. But if you could not see that people might turn out decent without having something "taught" to them in school, then you and I have a different opinion on how real life works.


The reality here Reverend...

If our teachers are graduating kids that read at what we used to see as a sixth grade level (if they can read at all).... and these graduates cannot understand basic algebra, or even how science is understood to work?

Then I certainly do not need these teachers getting involved in ethics and morals. Not their fucking job Reverend. They suck at it.

Anonymous said...

Roger, explain the difference.

"some pupils and students"

Anonymous said...

The unrelenting shit show if Bidenomics:
Mortgage rates reach 5% for first time in over a decadeBorrowers have started to change their behavior as interest rates climb.

Caliphate4vr said...

you are saying that tolerance for other lifestyle has to be "taught" in school otherwise people will not be tolerant?

Because I sort thought that this was a personality trait that people should either have as a basic underlying concept or that it would be instilled by parents, family, or even clergy and church (for those who attend).


I thought teaching it in Social Studies was odd we actually had health and sex Ed classes IN THE SOUTH IN THE 70s but I didn’t attend a k-12 one room schoolhouse as the ancient mariner of CHR evidently did.

It’s not the state’s responsibility at any age, to discuss this and the mental machinations a CHILDLESS person has to go through as justification speaks volumes

I don’t care, suck dick or don’t, it’s not my problem..just leave me out of it.

I…
seriously…
do….
not….
care….

It’s none of my business…

Caliphate4vr said...

And pedo before you go anywhere, I was married by my VERY GAY brother in law 2 1/2 years ago. I think I’m pastafarian, he was ordained in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and yes the state of GA accepts it.

So fuck you

Ready to admit Adams made you a fascist yet?

LOL

Caliphate4vr said...

https://ibb.co/pdNGnHj

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Caliphate4vr said...

we didn’t want to know anything about the librarians private life I want to go back there

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Typicall gangster result.

An Ohio man who tried to blame his decision to join the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on former President Donald Trump has been convicted on six counts, including a felony obstruction charge that carries a potential sentence of 20 years in prison.

Dustin Thompson, 38, of Columbus, was convicted Thursday after four days of trial. It took the jury about three hours to return the verdict convicting Thompson of one felony—obstruction of Congress—and five misdemeanors, including theft of government property.

Thompson was also convicted of entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly conduct in a Capitol Building, and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol Building.

Typically the way gangsters have operated for decades.

Other people pay the penalty



rrb said...


Dustin Thompson, 38, of Columbus, was convicted Thursday after four days of trial. It took the jury about three hours to return the verdict convicting Thompson of one felony—obstruction of Congress—and five misdemeanors, including theft of government property.

Thompson was also convicted of entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly conduct in a Capitol Building, and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol Building.



LMAO.

"Parading" should bring the death penalty. Without the possibility of parole.

Make the sentence as absurd as the charge.







rrb said...



Typically the way gangsters have operated for decades.

Remember the part in The Godfather where Vito Corleone was arrested and charged with "entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly conduct in a Capitol Building, and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol Building?"

Yeah, me neither.

LMAO.

"Parading." That's some OG shit right there, alky.

anonymous said...

"Parading" should bring the death penalty

And cutting off his right to vote with his ballz!!!!!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Elon Musk claims he is for absolute forms of free speech. Does that mean he would allow absolute freedom of speech with absolutely no constraints? Would that include photographs of pornography, including child pornogrphy, as absolutely protected, openly allowed forms of speech? And how about absolute out and out hate speech against Republicans? And how about absolute out and out lying against Republicans? Would those forms of speech be absolutely allowed with absolutely no constraints?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Newsweek
Is Elon Musk a Trump Supporter?

What Tesla CEO Has Said About Former POTUS
4/14/22
The question of just what Elon Musk thinks of Donald Trump will be raised yet again after the Tesla and SpaceX CEO offered to buy Twitter for $43 billion.

Musk, who recently became Twitter's biggest shareholders but turned down an offer to join the social media company's board, revealed the offer amounting to $54.20 per share in a regulatory filing on Wednesday.

After the billionaire became Twitter's largest shareholder with a 9.2 percent stake in the company, a number of conservative figures urged Musk to reinstate Trump to the platform, from which the former president was banned over fears he could incite more violence in the wake of the January 6 attack on the Capitol.

For years, Musk, a registered independent voter who previously described his views as moderate, has claimed that he tries not to get too involved in politics, despite spending millions lobbying both main political parties.

Now Musk is attempting a new takeover of Twitter, the question of whether the world's richest man supports Trump could yet be fully addressed. Below, Newsweek details what Musk has said about Trump over the years, as well as other times he has weighed in on the world of politics.

Is Elon Musk a Trump Supporter?

In November 2016, on the eve of the election in which Trump beat Hilary Clinton, Musk declared that he doesn't believe that the Republican is the right person for the White House.

"I feel a bit stronger that he is probably not the right guy," Musk told CNBC. "He doesn't seem to have the sort of character that reflects well on the United States."

UNDERSTATEMENT!

However, just one month later Musk agreed to join Trump's "Strategic and Policy" advisory team for his incoming administration, a group that also included Uber CEO Travis Kalanick and PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi.

In January 2017, Musk criticized Trump's travel ban on countries with predominantly Muslim populations, describing it as "not the best way to address the country's challenges."

"Many people negatively affected by this policy are strong supporters of the US. They've done right, not wrong & don't deserve to be rejected," Musk wrote in a tweet.

The following month, also on Twitter, Musk dismissed criticism about his working with Trump, saying:
"People should push to have as many moderates advising the President as possible. Blind hate is never the right answer."

In June 2017, Musk announced that he would be leaving Trump's business advisory council in protest of the president's pulling the U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement. "Climate change is real. Leaving Paris is not good for America or the world," Musk tweeted.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The New Three
April 15, 2022 at 7:54 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 23 Comments

Punchbowl News: “If Pelosi, Hoyer and Clyburn are ‘The Big Three,’ then we’re describing Caucus Chair Hakeem Jeffries, Assistant Speaker Katherine Clark and Caucus Vice Chair Pete Aguilar as ‘The New Three.’”

“We expect that Jeffries, Clark and Aguilar (in that order) will likely be the next triumvirate of House Democratic leadership when there’s a generational change at the top.”

“To be clear, they’re all individually preparing for the possibility by doing their own fundraising, campaign travel and member outreach. But there was a sense from nearly every Democrat we talked to that these three realize that they’re stronger together. And there won’t be any attempt by one to challenge the other or support someone else running against a member of the trio.”

Democratic Donor Sentenced in Drugs for Sex Deaths
April 15, 2022 at 7:43 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 17 Comments

“Ed Buck, once a fixture of West Hollywood’s political scene, was sentenced Thursday to 30 years in prison for drug and sex crimes that included providing lethal doses of methamphetamine to two men,” the Los Angeles Times reports.

“To the outside world, Buck was a champion of causes such as fur bans and AIDS awareness, and a donor to Democratic officeholders.”

“But behind the walls of his Laurel Avenue apartment was a nightmare. For nearly a decade, the wealthy, white Buck lured young Black men at the lowest points in their lives — homeless, addicted, resorting to subsistence-level sex work — into what he called ‘party and play’ sessions.”



Ukraine’s Defense Minister Trolls Russia
April 15, 2022 at 7:37 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 12 Comments

Ukraine Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov mocked Russia over the loss of its “flagship” warship Moskva promising to scuba dive to the sunken vessel after the war.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Ukraine Seizes Property of Close Putin Ally
April 15, 2022 at 7:35 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 6 Comments

“Ukrainian authorities announced Thursday that they had seized a sum of 154 assets from pro-Kremlin opposition politician and mogul Viktor Medvedchuk, who was captured this week following an escape from house arrest shortly after Russia invaded Ukraine,” the Washington Post reports.

“Among the long list of property seized from Medvedchuk and his family: 30 plots of land, 23 houses, 32 apartments, 26 cars and one yacht.”



Texts Show Trump Allies Souring on Election Challenge
April 15, 2022 at 7:34 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 18 Comments

“In the weeks between the 2020 election and the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, almost 100 text messages from two staunch GOP allies of then-President Donald Trump reveal an aggressive attempt to lobby, encourage and eventually warn the White House over its efforts to overturn the election,“ CNN reports.

“The texts, which have not been previously reported, were sent by Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah and GOP Rep. Chip Roy of Texas to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows. The text exchanges show that both members of Congress initially supported legal challenges to the election but ultimately came to sour on the effort and the tactics deployed by Trump and his team.”



Ohio Republicans Try to Stop J.D. Vance Endorsement
April 15, 2022 at 6:52 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 8 Comments

“Republican rivals to J.D. Vance have embarked on a last-ditch effort to stave off an endorsement from Donald Trump in Ohio’s Senate primary, a response prompted by swirling speculation that the former president is close to backing Vance in the contentious race,” Politico reports.

“Trump has so far stayed out of the primary, even as early voting has already begun ahead of the May 3 election. But his endorsement could dramatically shift the margins in the crowded field of candidates, where no one in the five-way race has taken a commanding lead.”


Biden Deepens Involvement in Ukraine
April 15, 2022 at 6:46 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 20 Comments

Washington Post: “The Biden administration, meanwhile, has vastly expanded the types of weapons it will provide to the Ukrainian military, with the next phase of the conflict expected to include large clashes in the open fields of the Donbas region. An additional $800 million in security assistance will for the first time include anti-personnel mines, long-range artillery, armored vehicles and radar defense equipment.”

“And the top U.S. commander in Europe and his staff are developing training for Ukrainian forces that will take place on the continent and teach the soldiers about weapons new to the country’s arsenal.”

Also from the Washington Post: Russia warns the U.S. to stop arming Ukraine.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

DONALD TRUMP
THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING

Trump Could Save Democrats from Midterm Blowout

April 15, 2022 at 8:36 am EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

“Democrats know just how bad an environment they face heading into November’s midterm elections but hold out hope from an unlikely quarter:
former President Trump,”
The Hill reports.

“Democrats believe Trump’s backing of flawed candidates in Republican primaries could saddle the GOP with losers in the general election.

“They also hope Trump will retain his power as a powerful motivator of Democratic voters even when he isn’t on the ballot.”


Danke im Voraus, Donald!

rrb said...


“We expect that Jeffries, Clark and Aguilar (in that order) will likely be the next triumvirate of House Democratic leadership when there’s a generational change at the top.”


Yeah...

Larry, Curly, and Moe.

LOL.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Insurrectionists

WashingtonCNN — 

In the weeks between the 2020 election and the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, almost 100 text messages from two staunch GOP allies of then-President Donald Trump reveal an aggressive attempt to lobby, encourage and eventually warn the White House over its efforts to overturn the election, according to messages obtained by the House select committee and reviewed by CNN.




The texts, which have not been previously reported, were sent by Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah and GOP Rep. Chip Roy of Texas to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows. The text exchanges show that both members of Congress initially supported legal challenges to the election but ultimately came to sour on the effort and the tactics deployed by Trump and his team.

“We’re driving a stake in the heart of the federal republic,” Roy texted Meadows on January 1. That text was first released in December by the House select committee and described as being written by a House Freedom Caucus member. Roy’s authorship has not been previously reported.

READ: Mark Meadows' texts with Mike Lee and Chip Roy

When situated in the overall timeline of events between the election and January 6, the series of texts from Lee and Roy provide new details about how two Trump allies went from fierce advocates of the former President’s push to overturn Joe Biden’s win to disheartened bystanders. By January 3, Lee was texting Meadows that the effort “could all backfire badly.”

But shortly after the election, both men were encouraging Trump to keep fighting.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Unbelievable bravery.

Two days ago it looked good for the Russians.

LVIV, Ukraine (AP) — Unbroken by a Russian blockade and relentless bombardment, the key port of Mariupol is still holding out, a symbol of staunch Ukrainian resistance that has thwarted the Kremlin’s invasion plans.

More than six weeks after the Russian siege began, Ukrainian troops are continuing to fight the vastly superior Russian forces in ferocious battles amid the ruins of what once was a bustling city on the Sea of Azov coast.

The city’s mayor says that an estimated 120,000 people remain in the city, of Mariupol’s pre-war population of about 450,000.

The Ukrainians’ fight against all odds has scuttled Moscow’s designs, tying up significant Russian forces and delaying the start of a planned Russian offensive in eastern Ukraine’s industrial heartland, Donbas. The Kremlin hopes that an attack in the east could reverse the battlefield fortunes for Russia after a humiliating failure of its attempt to quickly storm the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv.

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Mariupol has been a key objective for Russia since the start of its invasion on Feb. 24. Capturing the city would allow Moscow to establish a land corridor to Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula that Russia annexed in 2014 and deprive Ukraine of a major port and prized industrial assets.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The coldheartedtruth is becoming more evidenced every day. The slow motion coup began even before the election day ended


CNN Exclusive: 'We need ammo. We need fraud examples. We need it this weekend.' What the Meadows texts reveal about how two Trump congressional allies lobbied the White House to overturn the election.

By Ryan Nobles, Annie Grayer, Zachary Cohen and Jamie Gangel, CNN

Updated 9:13 AM EDT, Fri April 15, 2022

Washington(CNN)In the weeks between the 2020 election and the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, almost 100 text messages from two staunch GOP allies of then-President Donald Trump reveal an aggressive attempt to lobby, encourage and eventually warn the White House over its efforts to overturn the election, according to messages obtained by the House select committee and reviewed by CNN.

The texts, which have not been previously reported, were sent by Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah and GOP Rep. Chip Roy of Texas to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows. The text exchanges show that both members of Congress initially supported legal challenges to the election but ultimately came to sour on the effort and the tactics deployed by Trump and his team.

"We're driving a stake in the heart of the federal republic," Roy texted Meadows on January 1. That text was first released in December by the House select committee and described as being written by a House Freedom Caucus member. Roy's authorship has not been previously reported.

When situated in the overall timeline of events between the election and January 6, the series of texts from Lee and Roy provide new details about how two Trump allies went from fierce advocates of the former President's push to overturn Joe Biden's win to disheartened bystanders. By January 3, Lee was texting Meadows that the effort "could all backfire badly."

But shortly after the election, both men were encouraging Trump to keep fighting.

Sen. Mike Lee speaks about a bill to end the US support for the war in Yemen on December 13, 2018.

In a series of texts to Meadows on November 7, Lee offered his "unequivocal support for you to exhaust every legal and constitutional remedy at your disposal to restore Americans faith in our elections."

Lee went on: "This fight is about the fundamental fairness and integrity of our election system. The nation is depending upon your continued resolve. Stay strong and keep fighting Mr. President."

Also on November 7, Roy wrote to Meadows, "We need ammo. We need fraud examples. We need it this weekend."

In a statement to CNN, Lee's communications director, Lee Lonsberry, said, "I'd like to highlight that Senator Lee has been fully transparent," pointing to how Lee had called for an investigation into claims of fraud in the 2020 election but ultimately recognized Biden as president-elect and voted to certify the electoral results on January 6.

Roy Communications Director Nate Madden told CNN the text messages "speak for themselves."

An attorney for Meadows did not respond to CNN's request for comment.

A spokesperson for the select committee declined to comment.

A source familiar with the committee's work tells CNN that Lee's texts "reflect he was a cheerleader before he was against it. He uses legal language to push blatant conspiracy theorists into the Trump orbit."




Caliphate4vr said...


Blogger The Real Halfbaked Soars Pundit said...
The coldheartedtruth is becoming more evidenced every day. The slow motion coup began even before the election day ended


Salad for breakfast?

rrb said...



Salad for breakfast?


Breakfast of nursing home/insane asylum Champions.

LOL.

CNN. I heard Musk offered to buy them too for $28 bucks.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Macron Opens Up 8-Point Lead
April 15, 2022 at 9:37 am EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

A new YouGov/DataPraxis poll in France puts Emmanuel Macron eight points ahead of challenger Marine Le Pen in the April 24 runoff, 54% to 46%.

“Voters for candidates defeated in round one now have to decide between either voting for one of Macron or Le Pen, or not voting at all. Our data on current transfers suggests that Macron is picking up around one in nine (11%) of those Zemmour voters currently giving us a vote intention, 55% of Mélenchon voters, and the vast majority of supporters from other left wing and centrist candidates in that round.

“On the other hand, Le Pen is attracting support from 90% of Zemmour voters, 45% of those who backed Mélenchon on Sunday, and a clear majority of voters from other right wing candidates who bowed out last Sunday.”

BUT HOORAY! IT LOOKS AS IF THE TIDES OF FASCISM ARE BEING PUSHED BACK, AS ALSO EVIDENCED IN THE ARTICLE REFERENCED ABOVE, "Trump Could Save Democrats from Midterm Blowout"
(click on the link at politicawire.com)

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Bonus Quote of the Day
April 15, 2022 at 8:42 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 34 Comments
“When some leaders ask me what weapons I need, I need a moment to calm myself, because I already told them the week before. It’s Groundhog Day. I feel like Bill Murray.”
— Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky, quoted by The Atlantic.

SEND UKRAINE THE NEEDED WEAPONS, WORLD! AND DO NOT FEAR PAPER TIGER RUSSIA!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Important military aid

“The Biden administration, meanwhile, has vastly expanded the types of weapons it will provide to the Ukrainian military, with the next phase of the conflict expected to include large clashes in the open fields of the Donbas region. An additional $800 million in security assistance will for the first time include anti-personnel mines, long-range artillery, armored vehicles and radar defense equipment.”

“And the top U.S. commander in Europe and his staff are developing training for Ukrainian forces that will take place on the continent and teach the soldiers about weapons new to the country’s arsenal.”


We have been training them for months, because they are very sophisticated and very effective 👍.



Caliphate4vr said...

Well fucking, DUH!

Obama economist Steve Rattner says Biden's $1.9trillion American Rescue Plan will 'go down in history as an extraordinary policy mistake' that has put the U.S. 'behind the curve' on skyrocketing inflation

'Mounting evidence suggests a hard landing — in other words, a recession,' the former counselor to the Treasury Secretary wrote in an op-ed for the NY Times

Rattner said that the Fed needs to take action to raise interest rates 'aggressively, quickly and far more forcefully'

'The $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan passed in the early days of the Biden administration will go down in history as an extraordinary policy mistake'

The Consumer Price Index is now running at 8.5 percent, according to March figures released by the Labor Department on Wednesday

rrb said...



In a series of texts to Meadows on November 7, Lee offered his "unequivocal support for you to exhaust every legal and constitutional remedy at your disposal to restore Americans faith in our elections."

"every legal and constitutional remedy"

And TDS-afflicted imbeciles consider this a crime.

Fortunately for us sane folks, many of these imbeciles are kept under lock and key. But occasionally one slips through the cracks and shoots up a subway or a baseball diamond full of republicans.




rrb said...


Obama economist Steve Rattner says Biden's $1.9trillion American Rescue Plan will 'go down in history as an extraordinary policy mistake' that has put the U.S. 'behind the curve' on skyrocketing inflation


Don't underestimate Joe's ability to FUCK THINGS UP.

- Skeets Hussein 0linsky


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

These people actually want to disown George W Bush and the neoconservatives in favor of Trump. Ever since Obama was elected they have been taking control of the Republican Party.

Continetti, however, assigns all of the blame to the populist-nationalist conservatives, and he names names: Patrick Buchanan, Samuel Francis, Angelo Codevilla, and other writers associated with the American Conservative and the Claremont Review of Books.  Those two journals and their writers provided the intellectual meat on the bones of the populist-nationalist takeover of the Republican Party.  They provided intellectual gravitas to "America First."  Continetti laments that the Obama administration and the criticism of it by Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham "pushed Rush Limbaugh ever rightward."  Rush, too, became a champion of the populist-nationalists.  And all of those conservatives eventually supported Donald Trump, which, in the eyes of Continetti and his neoconservative brethren, was their greatest sin.  (Continetti fails to mention that Norman Podhoretz also became a Trump-supporter.)

Continetti also laments the closing of Bill Kristol's magazine, The Weekly Standard, which was a reliable voice of neoconservatism that, however, could not make it in the marketplace of ideas.  Meanwhile, National Review effectively became another mouthpiece of neoconservatism, while still occasionally publishing writers sympathetic to populist-nationalism, such as Victor Davis Hanson.  Buckley's old magazine, which played a huge role in founding the modern American conservative movement, is becoming increasingly irrelevant to the populist-nationalist GOP.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Neoconservatism has lost its home in the Republican Party.  But the neoconservatives do not have a home in the Democrat party, either, which has moved so far to the left politically and culturally.

Continetti concludes his Commentary article by claiming that it is the neoconservatives who remain "committed to the principles and institutions of the American Founding and to the ordered liberty at its heart," whereas the Trump-led populist-nationalists and their intellectual supporters have abandoned those principles.  But Continetti should read George Washington's Farewell Address, which contains a lucid and enduring summation of the nation's founding principles and aligns quite comfortably with "America First."


Washington told his countrymen that America "has a right to concentrate your affections."  He warned against "overgrown military establishments which, under any form of government, are inauspicious to liberty, and which are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty."  He warned against "faction," which could result in "a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community" replacing the "delegated will of the nation."  He praised our system of checks and balances, while noting that "religion and morality" are two necessary pillars of "political prosperity."

In foreign policy, Washington urged his countrymen to "observe good faith towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all."  He counseled to avoid "inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others" because such approaches could impel the nation to "war ... contrary to the best calculations of policy."  We should not "sacrifice the interests" of our own country to foreign quarrels that have nothing to do with America's interests.  "Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another," he wrote, "cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other."  "Real patriots," he continued, "who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests."  The United States, he concluded, should "choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel."

Those "founding principles," not neoconservatism, should guide the modern conservative movement.








Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/04/the_slow_agonizing_death_of_neoconservatism.html

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

They are isolationist like 👍 Trump.

Caliphate4vr said...

Those wacky, right-wing, tinfoil-hat people (like myself) are correct yet again.

After defense attorneys “combed through a mountain of discovery,” they added a footnote to their 41-page motion to dismiss charges related to Jan. 6.

Attorneys added a note that “At least 20 FBI and ATF assets were embedded around the Capitol on J6,” to page 6 of the motion, which they filed to dismiss charges of seditious conspiracy and obstruction charges against 10 members of the “Oath Keepers,” a right-leaning, pro-Constitution group of Americans.

The “mountain of discovery” included FD-302 forms, which FBI agents fill out after they interview people.

The motion to dismiss, filed by defense attorney David W. Fischer, also stated that defense attorneys had “not found one iota of proof” that the ten Oath Keepers “had any plan, intention, design, or scheme to specifically enter the Capitol Building on J6.”

Many Americans, especially J6 defendants and their lawyers, have long maintained that undercover feds were involved in the Jan. 6 protest-turned-melee.

FACT-O-RAMA! If 300,000 Americans descend upon Washington D.C. and only 200 get violent, that would be the true meaning of “mostly peaceful.”

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) ripped Jill Sanborn, executive assistant director of the FBI’s national security division, about this very topic on Jan. 11, 2022, in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

“How many FBI agents or confidential informants actively participated in the events of Jan. 6,” Cruz asked Sanborn.

“Sir, I’m sure you can appreciate that I can’t go into the specifics of sources and methods,” Sanborn answered.

“Did any FBI agents or confidential informants actively participate in the events of Jan. 6, yes or no” Cruz continued.

“Sir, I can’t answer that,” Sanborn responded.

“Did any FBI agents or confidential informants commit crimes of violence on Jan. 6?” Cruz asked.

“I can’t answer that, sir,” Sanborn retorted.

Caliphate4vr said...

Jeeeez


After Biden finished his speech, he turned around and tried to shake hands with thin air and then wandered around looking confused

That’s after claiming he was a professor at U Penn

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

WOW
https://twitter.com/LynzforCongress/status/1514792068765286412

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

WOW
You’re Going to Lose’
April 15, 2022 at 10:10 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 17 Comments

Missouri state Rep. Ian Mackey (D) gave a powerful speech on the House floor yesterday that may restore some of your faith in our politics — or at least make you want to fight.

LINK AT politicalwire.com
where decency is observed

rrb said...



Yesterday was a flagship day in corporate media. It was the day they were forced to explicitly state what has long been clear: they not only favor censorship but desperately crave and depend on it.

Even if Musk doesn't buy Twitter, never forget what yesterday revealed.



https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1514938900686544897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1514938900686544897%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2022%2F04%2F15%2Fthis-glenn-greenwalds-thread-dragging-media-for-showing-how-desperately-they-crave-censorship-for-others-is-straight-freakin-fire%2F

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

wow wow wow wow
read the tweet responses

read all of them

rrb said...




The insane response to @elonmusk's proposal to buy Twitter at a significant premium proves that he isn't acquiring a private company, he's acquiring a global government censorship engine.

Capitalists don't turn down $10 billion in free money. Only totalitarians would do that.



https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1514709849392754689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1514709849392754689%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdirectorblue.blogspot.com%2F

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

You're going to lose!

In the long arc
that bends toward justice,
you're going to lose!

rrb said...




Liberals consider censorship necessary to “Our Democracy” for the simple reason that their ideas can’t compete in a free market of uncensored communication. CNN once had a monopoly on cable news; when Fox News offered an alternative, they almost immediately became Number One and nowadays CNN has lower ratings than reruns of Spongebob Squarepants. In the early years of Twitter, conservatives used the platform so effectively that liberals demanded censorship — this was at the heart of the online battle that became known as #Gamergate.

Silencing dissent and criticism, effectively declaring that their opinions are the only valid opinions and that all disagreement is “hate,” liberals seek to obtain through censorship what they cannot achieve through public debate. It doesn’t matter what the issue is, their approach is always the same. Prior to August 2014, few people had paid any attention to efforts by so-called “social justice warriors” (SJWs) to intrude their particular political preferences into the videogame industry. As soon as a handful of critics began calling attention to this “progressive” crusade, however, suddenly cries of “harassment” were used in an effort to shut down criticism of the SJW agenda. Everything that has happened since then — including Twitter’s banishment of myself, Milo Yiannopoulos and others, including Donald Trump — has followed the same pattern.

Liberals think of themselves as Neoplatonic archons, authorized to act not only as arbiters of truth, but also deciding who is and is not qualified to participate in public discourse. They seek power to exclude and silence anyone who challenges their authority to define the limits of debate, because this authority — effectively deciding issues by determining who is allowed to engage in the discussion of issues — is necessary to their own preeminence within the echo chamber of conformity they construct.



https://theothermccain.com/2022/04/15/the-action-and-the-reaction/

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

WOW
What a THWAPPPP~!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

the perfect answer to this thread's DON'T SAY GAY malarkey

WOW~!!!
What a THWAPPPP~!!!

rrb said...



What was that fag from St. Louis prattling on about pederast?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/its-still-trumps-party

Unfortunately we are in danger.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Even many Republicans running against Trump-endorsed candidates feature Trump in their advertising. In West Virginia, Trump has endorsed Rep. Alex Mooney in this member versus member showdown in the newly drawn 2nd CD. But, that hasn't stopped GOP Rep. Dave McKinley from trying to grab the Trump mantle. Not only do McKinley's attack ads call Mooney "bad for Trump's agenda," but his most recent commercial featured an endorsement by Gov. Jim Justice who testifies that "McKinley stands with Trump." In the Pennsylvania Senate race, where Trump just recently endorsed TV personality Dr. Mehmet Oz, businessman David McCormick has been running ads in which he pledges to "fight for America First energy policies like Donald Trump" and to "fight for what Trump and Reagan showed us all — the world is safest when America is strongest." A recent ad for Gov. Brian Kemp, which attacks Perdue for "outsourcing jobs" to China while he was in the private sector, features clips of Pres. Trump admonishing politicians for failing to stand up to China. 

Democrats are happy to see GOP candidates attach themselves to Trump, especially in swing states like Pennsylvania and Georgia, arguing that the Trump brand remains toxic among swing voters. "Presidents' parties have never been rewarded for their policies, goals or accomplishments," one Democratic strategist told me the other day, "But they have survived when their opponents disqualify themselves with their extreme agendas."

However, President Biden is as unpopular in states like Georgia and Pennsylvania as the man he defeated in 2020. This allows GOP candidates to, as one GOP consultant put it, "post-up" on Biden on issues where he is underwater, like inflation, the economy, crime, and immigration. In other words, while Trump may still define the party, the midterm election will be a referendum on the actions of the current president. 

Even though the President has limited rights to address inflation he will get blamed for it.



rrb said...



Even though the President has limited rights to address inflation he will get blamed for it.


Brandon has the same right as anyone to address inflation alky.

The fact that he looks like a liar and a fucking idiot when he does so is beside the point.


rrb said...




THEN:

Under Trump, Americans Have Seen Their Best Wage Growth In 40 Years

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/02/under-trump-americans-have-seen-their-best-wage-growth-in-40-years/


NOW:

Real Wages Plummet Nearly 3% Due To Inflation

https://www.dailywire.com/news/real-wages-plummet-nearly-3-due-to-inflation





C.H. Truth said...

Elon Musk claims he is for absolute forms of free speech. Does that mean he would allow absolute freedom of speech with absolutely no constraints? Would that include photographs of pornography, including child pornogrphy, as absolutely protected, openly allowed forms of speech? And how about absolute out and out hate speech against Republicans? And how about absolute out and out lying against Republicans? Would those forms of speech be absolutely allowed with absolutely no constraints?

Section 230 specifically addresses these questions for any public forum. It basically makes anything like that exempt from being considered "free speech". No lewd, obscene, lascivious, excessively violent, and harassing behavior should be tolerated.

What Musk is saying is that he is not about to censor someone or ban someone because they follow a epidemiologists that has a different opinion than our CDC or because they want to post a story about election fraud.

Twitter (legally) had no real authority/protection under 230 to allow them to censor things like news about Hunter Biden's laptop. Not only was it not "disinformation" - but "disinformation" is not covered under section 230 as the sort of dialogue a public forum is allowed on a "public forum".


I think the fact that you cannot see anything in-between liberal fact checkers preventing conservative views or anything critical of the woke conventional movement from being seen... and allowing child porn....

Just goes to show how limited your ability to be nuanced in your thinking is.

Caliphate4vr said...

I think the fact that you cannot see anything in-between liberal fact checkers preventing conservative views or anything critical of the woke conventional movement from being seen... and allowing child porn....

Just goes to show how limited your ability to be nuanced in your thinking is.


It goes off the rails for him when he posts his own “thoughts” rather than copying and pasting. He just ain’t bright

rrb said...



I think the fact that you cannot see anything in-between liberal fact checkers preventing conservative views or anything critical of the woke conventional movement from being seen... and allowing child porn....

I think the pederast specifically and the left in general CAN see the difference between conservative views and child porn. It's just that their thinking is so twisted that they construe an equivalence between the two that justifies their silencing of conservatives - their political enemies.

Glenn Greenwald put it very succinctly:

Yesterday was a flagship day in corporate media. It was the day they were forced to explicitly state what has long been clear: they not only favor censorship but desperately crave and depend on it.

Leftists simply do not possess the ability or intellectual honesty to debate their beliefs freely. They have no choice but to silence their opponents because their ideas suck.

Exhibit A: The Florida K-3rd grade bill. The left is required to LIE about it in response TO it.

And that's their M.O. on every single issue of significance today.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Those on the right would defend the right to say unchallenged that Hillary Clinton was leading an anarchist pedophile ring from the basement of a pizza restaurant that had no basement.

They would defend the right to procalim unchallenged that the parents of the Sandy Hook children were paid actors who actually had no children nor were any children actually killed.

We must not allow such lying Hitler types to take over our media and social networks in pursuit of their depraved versions of truth.