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Wednesday, July 26, 2017

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It's no secret that many military leaders were against the policy of allowing transgenders into the military. This was exactly why they pushed so hard to "stall" the implementation of the previous executive order to require the military to accept them. I generally believe that the six month time frame to study the impact, was never more than a stalling tactic to come up with a good reason to justify the preconceived decision. Military leaders originally wanted two years delay.



Keep in mind that transgender people have always been technically banned from serving (at least since transgenderism has become a thing). There was just an order to "change" that policy, that had been stayed pending more study. So technically this is not so much a "change" in policy, as it is a decision to continue the existing policy and to "not" change it to allow transgenders to openly join and serve in the military. 

I would think there is a compromise for this. Certainly, you cannot simply allow people to join the military, force the Government to pay for the surgery, have them out for an extended period of time (recovering), have to monitor the after surgery steps (including ongoing medications), etc... 

If the military can deem someone ineligible for military service  for having eczema (because it's a burden to carry and apply cream in active combat conditions) then certainly you can ban someone for military service who is going to be going through a major elective surgery.  In fact, the list of conditions that disqualifies a person for military service is extensive. Pretty much anything that requires daily medication disqualifies you (as it would create an undo burden on the military to have to provide such medications under combat situations). Obviously you do not want to see a diabetic die in a combat environment because they ran out of insulin. 

It seems to me that this isn't so much "discrimination" as the left will argue, as it is that the left is crying "discrimination" in order to force the military to make a medical exception as it pertains to Transgenders who likely require daily hormone and other medications to fight possible medical complications from a sex change operation.

So either the person agrees not to have the surgery while in active duty, or enlists after their medical issues have been resolved (and no longer require daily attention).  Then I would believe that there would be little reason to ban individuals who agree to those conditions. 

62 comments:

opie said...

So technically this is not so much a "change" i

So technically it only discriminates against a small group of soldiers, willing to serve and die for the country. Seems okay to you CH, but then again, you also think bakers should not have to serve gays. Consistency is the sign of small minds.

Commonsense said...

You know the liberal's hair will be on fire for this one.

Nobody's talking about Sessions now are they?

Commonsense said...

So technically it only discriminates against a small group of soldiers, willing to serve and die for the country.

Well Opie they also discriminate against morbidly fat people who are willing to serve and die for their country.

Because they are unfit for the duties that will be required of them.

C.H. Truth said...

I guess they discriminate against people with skin conditions who are willing to serve and die for their country as well...

The entire concept of the military is that everyone needs to be able to (at all times) serve in a potential combat situation in a manner that does not burden that person or anyone around them.

What you are looking for here... is that the Military should "change" said policy to allow for a special group of people to join even though they cannot abide by what everyone else is expected to abide by.


This is not discrimination, Opie... this is "crying discrimination" in order to receive special privilege.

C.H. Truth said...

They also discriminate against people with diabetes, people who have had hernias, people who are anemic, people with hearing problems, people with bad eyesight, people with irritable bowel syndrome, people with hemorrhoids, people with cirrhosis, people with pancreatitis, people with celiac, peopel with bad teeth...

The list goes on and on...

I would offer that this is more about being qualified (healthwise, physically, mentally, etc)... than it is about discrimination.

wphamilton said...

I admit that I haven't kept up with the issue very closely in recent years. Has current thinking changed on the diagnosis?

If I understand it correctly, whenever a person's perceptions, especially self perceptions, represent a dysfunctional break with physical reality, it is almost by definition a mental illness. Diagnosis depends on the severity and the cognitive impact. It seems to me that gender confusion, transgenderism or whatever you want to call it, is a clear example of that kind of psychological disturbance. I am aware that certain political organisations have removed the pathology label from the condition. I realize that none of what I am writing here is politically correct, but is it (still) medically correct?

Understanding those people suffering from the condition, having compassion for them, eliminating discrimination, and even making accommodations for them are all worthy goals. But to those who demand that the rest of us go further, that we must accept the delusions of the mental illness as if it were reality, I have to wonder why they would expect mentally healthy people to accept such coercion. It seems to be an extension of the mental illness, as if accepting that pretending makes it so for your own perceptions, then you can further pretend that you can force everyone else to pretend along with you.

Be that as it may, do we really want to force the US Military to accept as reality, those pathological self-perceptions or any other? Given that the US military are not medical organizations, nor ostensibly political ones, it is not only understandable that they resist such pressures, but clear-thinking Americans should insist on it. I don't care what Transgender folks think, or where they go or what they do, but we must not allow any mental and emotional pathology to dictate policy that impacts national security and self-defense.

caliphate4vr said...

Certainly, you cannot simply allow people to join the military, force the Government to pay for the surgery, have them out for an extended period of time (recovering), have to monitor the after surgery steps (including ongoing medications), etc...

It use to be intentionally harming oneself was at a minimum a courts martial

KD, LOL @ HB Daily said...

Well Opie they also discriminate against morbidly fat people who are willing to serve and die for their country. "CS

Opie, try not to allow your terret syndrome kick in.

What branch of the US Military did you serve in and for how long?

Having served, I know the drill, so to speak, you have to score high on the apt test to get into the field you want, you cant be a fatty, you cant be PNC crazy, or medically unfit like HB or an alky like HB.

You can not hate America Like Jane or chase boys like jane.

So for the left to say this is show how "discrimination" is to only show how uneducated on the US Military they are, the subjects they know nothing about are endless.

KD, Jobs Jobs and more Jobs, high tech high pay said...


Trump set to announce new U.S. factory by top Apple supplier



by Seth Fiegerman @sfiegerman
July 26, 2017: 12:54 PM ET


Back in the real world another WIN.... you know Dems had 8 years to grow the economy and all they did was grow welfare lines.

rrb said...

Commonsense said...
You know the liberal's hair will be on fire for this one.

Nobody's talking about Sessions now are they?
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nope. not sessions, and not the fact that debbie shitforbrains schultz gave full HOR IT network access to a pack of paki ragheads.

caliphate4vr said...

IT network access to a pack of paki ragheads.

did you see one was arrested trying to leave the country after wiring himself $300K?

rrb said...

did you see one was arrested trying to leave the country after wiring himself $300K?
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oh yeah, but the fact that you felt the need to ask if i saw it indicates that it's only getting coverage where guys like you and i lurk.



if this happened under GOP management and oversight...


...the alky's head would've exploded several dozen times by now.

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rrb said...

Late Tuesday afternoon, it was announced that Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fl.) had fired shady I.T. staffer Imran Awan after being arrested trying to flee the country amid a criminal investigation. And yet the “big three” networks ignored this piece of breaking news.

ABC’s World News Tonight, the CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News saw no reason to cover this disturbing story involving double billing, Hezbollah, smashed hard drives, and possessing the e-mails and files of leading congressional Democrats.

Thankfully, the Fox News Channel’s Special Report filed a full report. Host Bret Baier began by stating he had “some breaking news”:

The investigation to a Capitol Hill computer scandal has taken a dramatic turn. Fox News has learned one of the I.T. staffers are being investigated in the case is now under arrest, caught as investigative say they tried to leave the country last night.

Chief Washington correspondent James Rosen revealed that Wasserman Schultz had just fired Awan, “a Pakistani-born I.T. technician who has worked with several family members to perform computer services for Wasserman Schultz and other leading Democratic lawmakers.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2017/07/25/networks-cover-wasserman-schultzs-shady-it-staffer-being-arrested



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KD, Smashed Hard Drives hidden in a box, in the basement, from the FBI said...

And yet the “big three” networks ignored this piece of breaking news.

ABC’s World News Tonight, the CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News saw no reason to cover this disturbing story involving double billing, Hezbollah, smashed hard drives, and possessing the e-mails and files of leading congressional Democrats."

the key word is at the end of the above Sentence, Democrat.

Former Presidential Candidate Bernie Bank Fraud Sanders is laying low and not under any fire from any Senator to resign his seat because of his dirty dealings.

It is just how they role, one set of laws for themselves and an other for the little people.

KD, Winning so much said...

Today the President Mocked the Press when he asked a group of kids that were visting, IF they were glad to be here and are they having fun, they cheered and said YES< YES YES.

It really is time to just ignore the press and the manic Liberals.

Caliphate4vr said...

Foxconn announces $10 billion investment in Wisconsin and up to 13,000 jobs

More winning, by Trump and toast

LMAO!!

opie said...

Menstral the cultist posted....

Well Opie they also discriminate against morbidly fat people who are willing to serve and die for their country.

Almost as brilliant as loretta's LOL posts. Once again, showing us the weak minded ignores the subject while yelling like the child he is.

opie said...

More winning, by Trump and toast

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! Kinda like his massive popular vote win......

opie said...

ts plans to invest $10 billion to build a massive display panel plant in Wisconsin that could employ up to 13,000 workers but would require up to $3 billion in subsidies from state taxpayers.

Great win as donnie pats himself on the back and claims it would not have happened if he wasn't elected. Yeah sure.....Sure seems to me the taxpayers of Wi bet on the come line that their 3 billion would not go to waste.

caliphate4vr said...

“America does not have a single LCD plant to produce a complicated system. We are going to change that," Foxconn chairman Terry Gou said at the White House news conference. "It starts today with this investment in Wisconsin."

At 20 million square feet, the factory would be three times the size of the Pentagon, making it one of the largest manufacturing campuses in the nation. It would initially employ 3,000 workers making an average of $53,900 a year.

"Today we’re announcing the single largest economic development project in the history of Wisconsin and one of the largest in the history of this country," said Walker, who called it the largest job creation project in the nation in an undeveloped greenfield. "This is literally number one."

The deal comes as President Donald Trump seeks to fulfill a promise to bring manufacturing jobs that have been lost in recent decades back to the United States.

U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan, whose district in southeastern Wisconsin would be home to the facility, called the deal a "game changer" and praised President Donald Trump and Walker for working to make it happen.

"This shows actual results — getting it done," Ryan said.

opie said...

"This shows actual results — getting it done," Ryan said.

I know a bridge for sale in brooklyn.....you want in???????

opie said...

I wouldn't hold my breath about this great news....


In the past, some Foxconn investments have failed to materialize. They also claim 10,000 construction jobs for 4 years....Yeah, sure......

In November 2013, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett announced that Foxconn planned to invest $30 million in a “high-end technology manufacturing facility” with 500 jobs. The company has a small research operation in Harrisburg, Pa., but the factory was never built.

Similarly, the Washington Post reported in March that Foxconn has spoken of making major investments in India, Vietnam and Brazil, but with results that have not matched the original announcements.

At $3 billion for 13,000 jobs, the deal would cost $231,000 per job. The subsidies would total more than the combined yearly state funding used to operate the University of Wisconsin System and the state's prison system.

Roger Amick said...

I understand not wanting to pay for the surgery . Beyond that is just total bullshit discrimination should not be allowed at all. He claims that the Generals discuss it and with the Pentagon.

But they did not have no clue what was coming, all the top staff didn't know it. He did it on impulse again.

Anyone who is qualified there is no reason to do this. The mentally ill man, who should never be in the White House.

And as usual our formerly esteemed host stands behind the Donald's ass, every damn time.

caliphate4vr said...

"This shows actual results — getting it done," Ryan said.

I know a bridge for sale in brooklyn.....you want in???????

July 26, 2017 at 5:42 PM


Apologies fatty after my hot yoga class today, a new Alpharetta rugby men's club asked me to come out.

I still got it, froze several 20 year olds and skipped pass for tries.

Damn it's good to be me

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Commie

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Loretta said...

"And as usual our formerly esteemed host stands behind the Donald's ass, every damn time."

Formally esteemed? Aren't you just the melodramatic prom princess...

He gave you a damn blog for chrissakes. A blog that YOU can't convince ANY of your friends or family to visit...

Most likely they don't want to deal with your drama either....

rrb said...

He gave you a damn blog for chrissakes. A blog that YOU can't convince ANY of your friends or family to visit...
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the last time i checked, the 'ol hospice blog was down to 94 page views.

and his last two posts?

the rantings of a person who is going completely mad.

roger is going cray cray.

Loretta said...

DamnDamned old fool.

rrb said...

And as usual our formerly esteemed host stands behind the Donald's ass, every damn time.
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so leave, alky. just fucking go. the logic that CH uses to understand and describe trump's latest words and or deeds is obviously beyond your ability to grasp or comprehend.

so why don't you rally your half-dozen twitter followers, head on over to the hospice blog "our formerly esteemed host" was gracious enough to donate to you and leave up solely for your amusement, and show us how it's done?

c'mon, drunkard. with your superior IQ and decades of closely following politics, you should be able to put on quite the clinic.

rrb said...

But they did not have no clue what was coming, all the top staff didn't know it. He did it on impulse again.
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yup, after discussing it with several generals and a number of pentagon staff, no one could've predicted it. no one.

it rose like a phoenix from the ashes of trump's insanity.

LOL.

KD, Alky is the Dow Down 600 like you predicted it would be - OR Up like i said and invested said...

the last time i checked, the 'ol hospice blog was down to 94 page views."

No why , Alky the Drama Faggot said he was going to "bury" CHT with the Hospice blog, You mean to tell US that did not happen and ALky found a new way to fail in his life.

KD, "Crushing Cost" of ObimboCare said...

At $3 billion for 13,000 jobs, the deal would cost $231,000 per job. " oDopie

First your math is wrong and 2ndly no one costs project costs all in one year, you would know that if you ever had a business, filed taxes and ever sign the front of a check in your life.

It just kills the Leftist to see This President do what Obamatheboy never did, grow the US Economy, get high paying high tech jobs into the country. Remember Voters vote on Jobs, that is the new (LOL) democrat party bs line. WI voters will vote for the 10's of thousands of jobs this YUGE plant will bring to that state.

Next time I Will explain to the Three Liberal Stooges the power of a cycling dollar within a community .

opie said...

KD, "Crushing Cost" of ObimboCare said...
At $3 billion for 13,000 jobs, the deal would cost $231,000 per job. " oDopie

That is DIRECTLY from pauline's link, not my math....You should try and keep up......The rest of your screed again show you complete lack of rational thought and complete the complete takeover of your stupid gene.


"Apologies fatty after my hot yoga class today, a new Alpharetta rugby men's club asked me to come out".

Out of the closet, again?....Now we all know for sure that you are a man's man. TOO FUNNY, even for you!!!! You made my day, pauline......I'm sure in your mind you did well. Idiot.

opie said...

I find it most amusing that our esteemed host once again fell for the trump troll to change the subject. With his massive successes in getting legislation passed and building a wall, hating gays and blaming everyone but himself, CH posts this base stirring subject and again, his pyschopants come running. Too funny and all so predictable.

opie said...

is that the Military should "change" said policy to allow for a special group of people to join even though they cannot abide by what everyone else is expected to abide by.


Abide by what? Your rules? They follow orders and obey what they are told to. And that is different how? Except for your bias, they volunteered to serve, you didn't. Have they created a problem in your mind. Idiotic comment from our chief trump fellator.

caliphate4vr said...

roger is going cray cray.

Going?? Roger's blown the damn doors off crazy town

KD, Teaching Liberals everyday said...

It just kills the Leftist to see This President do what Obamatheboy never did, grow the US Economy, get high paying high tech jobs into the country. Remember Voters vote on Jobs, that is the new (LOL) democrat party bs line. WI voters will vote for the 10's of thousands of jobs this YUGE plant will bring to that state.

Next time I Will explain to the Three Liberal Stooges the power of a cycling dollar within a community .


Class is in session.

This is the wrong way.

""Economists agree that unemployment benefits remain one of the best ways to grow the economy in a very immediate way," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (R-Calif.) said at a news conference on Thursday."

IF you believe her , you are less then an economic brain dead idiot.

The best way to grow the economy is work, a pay check and savings.

Buying Local: How It Boosts the Economy


#MAGA

opie said...

IF you believe her , you are less then an economic brain dead idiot.


Yep, the multiplier effect is close to 2x.....same with snap bennies....You say you are an economist and that is one of the most basic tenets in that study. Sure says a lot that you are sorry about your math comments. Too funny!!!!

KD, Educating The Three Liberal Sphincters said...

Going?? Roger's blown the damn doors off crazy town" Cali

Yep, I love looking at the decent on the evening of Nov. 8th when this Gal Hillary , that was a sure freaking thing to win, what 350 or so electoral votes?,,, His line that "she has it all" all the money, all the celebs all the big name Political types, she had Obama and Moochelle and she owned the US Media.


He openly put on the skirt the crop top and grabbed the pom pom's and did his best little girl cheerleading, then reality struck, we the people voted, the script was flipped, President Trump won within the rules of the game .


Did you invest on Nov 9th like HB, shorting the US Markets or did you invest in the #MAGA like I did pre market?

KD, Educating The Three Liberal Sphincters said...

omg oDopie please admit you are playing stupid , that you are not IRL this dumb about all things Economic?


You do know that the money that goes into welfare is taken from workers to feed/house/cloth the interlopers, right?

You do know that money earned by work goes into the pockets of the earners, removing them from interloper status to productive status.


Laffer Curve is laughing at oDopie.

KD, Winning so much said...

This is going to devastate the welfare queens of CHT.

Durable Good better then top range "Expectedly" up
"Total orders surged 6.5 percent to top Econoday's consensus for a 3.5 percent gain and high estimate for 6.0 percent"

opie said...

"Total orders surged 6.5 percent to top Econoday's consensus for a 3.5 percent gain

As expected.....you are brainwashed!!!!! Maybe that will help make for make 3% gdp come true. Yeah sure.....

omg oDopie please admit you are playing stupid ,

LOLOLOLOL!!! You are an amusing mensch......

Maybe you should retake eco 101 since you obviously missed too many classes from drinking Idiot

opie said...

You do know that the money that goes into welfare is taken from workers

You do know that you are a flaming asshole that thinks taxes should be eliminated for leeches like yourself. Idiot.

opie said...

D, "Crushing Cost" of ObimboCare said...
At $3 billion for 13,000 jobs, the deal would cost $231,000 per job. " oDopie

Still waiting for you to apologize for another kansan fuck up......I won't hold my breath since you have never been wrong.....Idiot

caliphate4vr said...

Maybe that will help make for make 3% gdp come true.

Wake-N Bake Thursday!!!!!!

KD, Hi Mr Opie how you doing , got Pie? said...

I believe that taxes are needed, just not at the current level they are imposed upon us that work and earn.

Let me ask Fatty one easy question, do you still enjoy the "W" era Tax cuts that are still the law of the land?

I know I do, I also know that boyObama did not lower my taxes, in fact due to the tax hike that is Obamacare my "taxes" for my premium and my deductible went up.

Some good news and some bad from the little boyObama hold over whore Yellen. She did not raise rate at the latest FMOC, but, is dumping debt onto the economy that was piled up under boyObama. She has both feet on the Economic brake.


Let's do the math together.

"At $3 billion for 13,000 jobs, the deal would cost $231,000 per job."

3 billion / by 13,000 jobs = 230,796

what difference does rounding up make, well , for those of that can do math correctly, it makes a YUGE difference, see I do/have signed the front of payroll checks.

How Yugely is the difference, well:

204 dollars per employee x 13,000 employees = $2,652,000 a year.

that is one heck of a difference, but, oDopie you stand by your math, having never signed the front of a payroll check.

That was easy, next.
#MAGA by keeping American Dollars here in the US .


"Highlights
Net exports in second-quarter GDP look to get a break as June's goods deficit is a smaller-than-expected $63.9 billion vs expectations for $65.0 billion. Exports surged 1.4 percent in June led by food products but also including a big gain for capital goods exports and also vehicle exports. Imports of goods fell 0.4 percent with sizable declines for industrial supplies and consumer goods."

This is happening now because of President Trumps America First Agenda.


caliphate4vr said...

Beyond that is just total bullshit discrimination should not be allowed at all.

Liver weren't you discriminated against because of your flat feet?

Loretta said...

Yes, cali.

caliphate4vr said...

Serving in the armed forces isn't a fucking right.

This Wounded Warrior Just Explained Trump’s Transgender Ban In One Incredible Tweet Thread

Loretta said...

The military isn't an equal opportunity employer, never has been.

Loretta said...

Thanks for sharing Cali.

rrb said...

Liver weren't you discriminated against because of your flat feet?
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my father was. kept him out of korea.

Loretta said...

Kind of confused.....

When did the left start giving a crap about the military?

Commonsense said...

When it became a vehicle to push their social agenda.

rrb said...

When did the left start giving a crap about the military?
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they don't give a fuck.

here's their logic:

they think they have a decent shot of destroying it from within by packing it with the mentally ill.


Loretta said...

This is a great way to lose the majority of the military vote forever.

Not that they've ever had a shot at it anyway.

I'd venture to say the younger generation mil doesn't have a huge problem with trannies as long as they wait to crossover....but I guarantee you if it's seen as a grand liberal social experiment, with no regard for the regular guys/gals, it's going to be a different story.

rrb said...




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It's not like the President wanted to ban transgendered from the military, but lobbing glitter at our enemy just isn't going to work anymore

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opie said...

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Maybe that will help make for make 3% gdp come true.

Wake-N Bake Thursday!!!!!

The out out of closet cali shakes off his coma....brilliant! Go consult someone who gives a shit..... idiot.

opie said...

,Leo degree posted

do you still enjoy the "W" era Tax cuts that are still the law of the land?

I spent that 300 bucks long ago. Do you like living in kansas and receive all the bennies you don't want to pay for. Seems you just care about yourself, such a christian you are. dumbass...

opie said...


How Yugely is the difference, well:

204 dollars per employee x 13,000 employees = $2,652,000 a year.

Glad you confirmed the sources math.....Since the rounding you take such exception to is not significant and beyond the accuracy of the estimate. Nice try, and stupid to boot. Now admit you were wrong by saying the math was wrong. BTW... the latest release says 3,000 jobs which certainly increases the cost per job the state will get screwed on.

opie said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/business/foxconn-factory-wisconsin-jobs.html

Foxconn, the Taiwanese electronics supplier for Apple and other tech giants, said Wednesday it would open its first major American factory in Wisconsin, a boost both for the battleground state’s economy and the Trump administration’s efforts to bolster domestic manufacturing.

White House officials noted President Trump’s direct negotiations with Foxconn for the project, which they said would create at least 3,000 jobs and represent a $10 billion investment.

Seems to me if you knew anything about manufacturing electronics, it is highly automated with few employees...13 K would be enough people for 6 plants, not 1